Should Cubs pursue Lee and Martinez from Cleveland? (Revised Title)
by ExNorthsider on Jul 28, 2009 12:27 PM CDT
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According to Ken Rosenthal, et al at foxsports.com (see here), the Indians want to package Cliff Lee and Victor Martinez. The Cubs could conceivably offer Geo Soto (injured, but not forever), Jake Fox and two top minor league pitchers.
A bona fide top starter and a veteran catcher who can still hit-- this would be a move worth making, especially in light of the Cardinals' recent moves.
It might be safe to say that 2009 is this Cubs roster's last chance to win the WS. Hendry is likely gone next year, and Lilly, Lee, Aram and Dempster will be one year older. So this is the year (again!)
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The Cubs aren't a small market team.
This window of opportunity stuff is overrated.
"Nice to hear some cheers for once," Bradley said. "I didn't come here to suck. I know I've sucked so far, but give me some love, you know what I'm saying? I am a Cub."
by Bildo1805 on Jul 28, 2009 12:29 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
100% Agreed
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by heine41 on Jul 28, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's been 100+ years
Maybe so, but they are closer now than they have been in decades, so I’d like to see them go for it. The risk is that they have some lousy seasons in a few years because they’ve depleted the farm system. So what?
"These are terrible times, and I shouldn't joke about them." --Warren Zevon
by ExNorthsider on Jul 28, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's another thing that's overblown:
The Cubs’ farm system is not depleted.
"Nice to hear some cheers for once," Bradley said. "I didn't come here to suck. I know I've sucked so far, but give me some love, you know what I'm saying? I am a Cub."
by Bildo1805 on Jul 28, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, just re-read.
That’s not what you were saying.
"Nice to hear some cheers for once," Bradley said. "I didn't come here to suck. I know I've sucked so far, but give me some love, you know what I'm saying? I am a Cub."
by Bildo1805 on Jul 28, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed 100%
it is a risk, though, if they trade a bunch of young players now.
"These are terrible times, and I shouldn't joke about them." --Warren Zevon
by ExNorthsider on Jul 28, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This isn't fantasy baseball
we’re gonna stand relatively pat at the trade deadline, then get BJ Ryan, Soto, Lilly, and Dempster back.
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by heine41 on Jul 28, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you saying this ain't Pittsburgh?
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 28, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think we can get there without Lee or Martinez
Though Lee would be sexy in the rotation, but the package isn’t worth selling the future for. We finally have that franchise catcher, why would we let him go?
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by heine41 on Jul 28, 2009 12:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
how do we know he's a franchise catcher?
he’s played one full, quality season.
by John T. Unger on Jul 28, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do we know he's not?
I’m glad you are not running my franchise. We’d have no young talent, because the minute anyone of them scuffles which happens over the course of a baseball CAREER, you’d ship them out cause they are DONE.
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by heine41 on Jul 28, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LBS
If Soto is already coming into spring training, this early in his career, fat and out of shape, he will have a problem his entire career and won’t last long enough to make the “franchise” label.
"Stay thirsty my friends."
by bigz38fan on Jul 28, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right, cause he won't make any changes to his approach or work ethic to continue playing major league baseball in the mecca of the sport
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by heine41 on Jul 28, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling....
Soto will never come to spring training overweight again after his struggles this year.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Jul 28, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you are right
"Stay thirsty my friends."
by bigz38fan on Jul 28, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Indians aren't going to want Geo.
They have a great C coming up through the minors they snagged from the Dodgers last year. If the Cubs were going to trade Geo for V-Mart, they’d need a third party – say, the Padres, who have a plethora of corner bats, but no C.
I also don’t think Geo+Fox is close to the price of V-Mart and Lee.
Randy Wells - You continue to astound me.
by DGU on Jul 28, 2009 12:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I want to slap you right now.
You made me think Rosenthal reported we were discussing this trade.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
by SackMan on Jul 28, 2009 12:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, a misleading title
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by heine41 on Jul 28, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean like this?
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 28, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you sass Ronald
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Jul 28, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm Lovin' It
I haz comedy show in August. You come seez it please?: Hot Beans Delivers
by digitalbenjamin on Jul 28, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ronald? Is that you?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jul 28, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure the indians would be more than happy to give their best pitcher
and best hitter for a fat and lazy catcher who had one good season, a DH, and two minor league pitchers.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Jul 28, 2009 12:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you really proclaiming Geo as a one hit wonder?
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by heine41 on Jul 28, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems reasonable until proven otherwise.
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day." ~ Frank Sinatra
by tville on Jul 28, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No it seems unreasonable and fickle
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by heine41 on Jul 28, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The future holds the truth.
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day." ~ Frank Sinatra
by tville on Jul 28, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes it does, and I like the view from this side of the fence
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by heine41 on Jul 28, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that is 100% up to Geo
He has the talent, but he has to understand that success from one season doesn’t give you the right to gain 30 pounds the next year.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Jul 28, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, and I think this offseason will be a good one for him
He’s been taken down a peg, will go on a crazy “dempster-esque” work out regiment during the offseason and come back in the spring ready to go. But I believe he is our closer of the future and will be behind the dish for a long time
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by heine41 on Jul 28, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be a reasonable characterization
Soto had a great season last year and this year has been a bust on multiple levels. It may be too soon to declare him a one year wonder, but it accurately describes his career to date.
A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
--Winston Churchill
by lookingdeadred on Jul 29, 2009 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
misleading language to make your point
The post states: “two top minor league pitchers.”
"These are terrible times, and I shouldn't joke about them." --Warren Zevon
by ExNorthsider on Jul 28, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and who would these "two top minor league pitchers" be?
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by heine41 on Jul 28, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i didn't intend to
mainly my point is the Geo can’t possibly have trade value.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Jul 28, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So he just magically gained 30 pounds
even though he worked hard?
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Jul 28, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like he was hungry, not lazy
by daeviant on Jul 28, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Puff Puff.....Munchies!!!!
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by heine41 on Jul 28, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you have on of Soto doing that?
The sun will shine in '69
by gaclaudy on Jul 28, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know he looks larger
but do we have any proof he gained 30 pounds?
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by heine41 on Jul 28, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just tossing out a random number
But if you go back and watch a highlight from last season you can tell right away Soto is bigger this year.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Jul 28, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hendry said Soto came in at the same weight as last year.
by Wreckard on Jul 28, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jim Hendry would never ever lie
I mean he’s never ever done it before.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Jul 28, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What exactly would be his motivation to lie in this case?
by Wreckard on Jul 28, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
This Soto out of shape business has been really overblown. How the hell does anybody know that his performance this year is related to his weight? Maybe he has been hurt. Maybe he has been having problems off the field. Maybe he is suffering from the dreaded sophomore jinx or maybe he just is having a bad year. The Cubs have acknowledged that his participation in the WBC retarded his progress and he never really got going. Either way, I really don’t think anyone on this blog has the expertise to really know why he is has struggled this year and there certainly is no proof that it is related to his weight.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 28, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Especially when there's such an obvious thing to blame: the bicep injury
People latch onto weird memes; “Soto is fat” is just the latest.
by Wreckard on Jul 28, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how was soto doing during ST?
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 29, 2009 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One -- year -- wonder
Cubs will win 79 to 83 games. Season has been over for weeks. St. Louis will eventually run away with this division. And you can print it. BLou (7/21/09)
by BLou on Jul 29, 2009 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way to go out on a limb. The guy has a good rookie year
and struggles his second and half-way through the season you declare him a one-year wonder. Based on your track record of predicting the end of the line for Lee, Soriano and Fukudome, you’ll forgive me if I don’t take your prediction to heart and go out and burn my Soto jersey.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 29, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agreed and Rec'd.
I think many fans are leaping on the weight thing to make easy jokes at Soto’s expense. Look, it’s entirely possible he’s somewhat overweight – and it’s pretty clear that he’s struggling a little more to stay in shape – but I’ve been saying all season that he doesn’t look that different.
Here’s the question: Is he getting injured more because he’s heavier and out of shape? Or is he heavier and out of shape because he’s gotten injured more? None of us can say for sure.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 29, 2009 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
better not jump in any collection of water then
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by heine41 on Jul 28, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we could trade
every single minor league player we have and still not get cliff lee and victor martinez
by CalCalender on Jul 28, 2009 12:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ahh
So maybe our farm system IS depleted!!! :)
"These are terrible times, and I shouldn't joke about them." --Warren Zevon
by ExNorthsider on Jul 28, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well this is at least more interesting than this trade proposal:
You’re killin’ me Smalls!
by dtc0405 on Jul 28, 2009 12:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hendry said he isnt going to make a big splash
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 28, 2009 12:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And assuming he wasn't standing on a diving board at the time...
…we should believe him.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 28, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
better avoid any collection of water
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by heine41 on Jul 28, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody with good memory can help me
remembering the summer of 2005, when the Cubs traded for Mr. Mia Hamm please? What was the official stance and what were the rumors?
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jul 28, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was 2004.
There were NO rumors. That deal came out of nowhere.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jul 28, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you sir
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jul 28, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or when we traded for Aramis
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by heine41 on Jul 28, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great horny toads
Cliff Lee AND Vic Martinez??? What on earth do the Cubs have that would ever in a zillion years entice Cleveland to hand us over those two?
Cubs will win 79 to 83 games. Season has been over for weeks. St. Louis will eventually run away with this division. And you can print it. BLou (7/21/09)
by BLou on Jul 28, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Duh. The Go Cubs Go Song
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by heine41 on Jul 28, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lee from Boise
Jackson and Cashner from Tennessee
and Castro from Daytona
by tim815 on Jul 28, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That wouldn't even be close to enough.
For Martinez & Lee? You’d have to start with Wells or Marshall, include Guzman and Vitters, and probably Soto.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jul 28, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would go down that road
for those 2
by cozmotaylor123 on Jul 28, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Over 30 million in contracts
and both players are free agents after 2010. I would not.
by Inkin on Jul 28, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't stand your post titles....
Lol
by Wrigster on Jul 28, 2009 4:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
So, would anyone kick the tires on Scott Kazmir?
We’ve all heard the Grabow-Sherrill-Beimel-Lee rumors. Anybody with other ideas?
Randy Wells - You continue to astound me.
by DGU on Jul 28, 2009 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why not? I have no clue as to what they would ask for him
But you’d have to think he’d do well coming from the AL east to the NL Central, at least for half a season
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by heine41 on Jul 28, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still adore my idea:
Miles and Heilman for Joe Mauer.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jul 28, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like a playstation trade lol
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by heine41 on Jul 28, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Playstation is too sophisticated to let you do such travesties
How’ve you been man?
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jul 28, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You've never turned on the Force Trades option lol
I’ve been good. In my second week of Summer II semester. Haven’t been on here much the last couple weeks due to vacationing and DMB concerts.
How’s you?
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by heine41 on Jul 28, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, the joys of youth
Vacation and touring with a band… NEVER. GRADUATE.
I’ve been better. The wife lost her job and we’re scrambling bad. My new boss is busting my chops. Oh, well… NEVER. GRADUATE.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jul 28, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the third time you've advised me to never graduate
I just don’t know how I can tolerate academia for much longer. Does becoming a teacher count?
Sorry to hear about the jobs struggles. I’ll be thinking and praying!
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by heine41 on Jul 28, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Martinez
Don’t discount the fact that Cleveland probably wouldn’t mind getting rid of Martinez. Yes, he can hit. No, he absolutely cannot catch. He’s a DH or a below-average 1B and an even worse C. Cleveland recognizes this and with him due for another large contract they wouldn’t mind getting rid of him.
Who needs a stinkin' tag line? What are they for anyway?
by krummy12 on Jul 28, 2009 1:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
But...but...we have Jake Fox for that.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 28, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
....I PREDICT....
That Jim will suprise us ALL and make a move that we do not expect. He is known for making deals that no one is talking about. None of use expected the Lofton/Ramirez trade or the down to the deadline deal for Nomar a few years ago. He’s got another one in him I am sure.
I’m not sure about VMART as our everyday catcher, wasn’t cleveland trying to move him to 1b earlier this year?
Agreed, about our system NOT BEING DEPLETED, our system is very UNDERRATED by Baseball America, where would this team without all the help from our farm this year?
Hey, Hey! Hey, Hey! Hey, Hey!
by TheCubsGuy on Jul 28, 2009 1:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So we're getting Kenny Lofton?
lol I just had to say that.
We’re probably 20th in the league at the highest. At the lowest, 26th.
Randy Wells. A product of the Roy Halladay School of Pitching, located in Toronto, Canada. Possible relocation.
by Cub Style on Jul 28, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The rumored move to the Dodgers included either Billingsley or Kershaw
plus Loney and two prospects. Soto, Fox and some lower level minor leaguers won’t get it done. Cleveland will want a pitcher back.
Also Martinez is not a full-time catcher any longer.
by rlpete on Jul 28, 2009 1:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's not Kershaw I can guarantee that 100%
Randy Wells. A product of the Roy Halladay School of Pitching, located in Toronto, Canada. Possible relocation.
by Cub Style on Jul 28, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I expect
a Sanchez, Duke, Grabow deal. Think that’s too much? Hendry has a tendency to make deals for beyond this year, Sanchez has an option for next, Duke is under team control for another 2 years and Grabow I ’think" is still arbitration eligible. If not all three at least Duke and Grabow. They would both be inexpensive and allow Marshall to stay in the pen, plus add another lefty to the pen. Marshall is very valuable as a long man and swing starter and with our history of injuries this season, we need pitching. I can deal with the Baker/Fontenot platoon if that is the plan for this year.
Hey, Hey! Hey, Hey! Hey, Hey!
by TheCubsGuy on Jul 28, 2009 1:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't see the Cubs making a deal for all three of those guys.
One or two, maybe.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jul 28, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which one Al?
Sanchez, Duke and Grabow? I agree, just a thought and not really out of line with something Hendry would do.
Al, did you ever say who you thought the cubs were working on a deal for?
Hey, Hey! Hey, Hey! Hey, Hey!
by TheCubsGuy on Jul 28, 2009 1:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I know Grabow was involved in one of the rumors I heard.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jul 28, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're apparently going hard after him.
At least that’s what I’ve heard.
Randy Wells. A product of the Roy Halladay School of Pitching, located in Toronto, Canada. Possible relocation.
by Cub Style on Jul 28, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this Martinez wants OUT of Cleveland (TN)
and if the Cubs would sign me, I’d quit my job in a heartbeat and the wife would have to find me .. Oh, man .. .whatta Walter Mitty moment ..
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
by cubnational on Jul 29, 2009 6:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's a name out of the blue I'd love to get -
Jeff Clement, C, Seattle – he could be on the market and would get us a powerful LH option.
Randy Wells - You continue to astound me.
by DGU on Jul 29, 2009 8:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep, just noticed his name brought up on Twitter.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 29, 2009 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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