Cubs Finalizing Deal for Grabow and Gorzelanny

by bergs55 on Jul 30, 2009 3:57 PM CDT Comment 34 comments

Numerous sources are reporting that the Cubs have acquired lefties John Grabow and Tom Gorzelanny from the Pirates. No word on who the Cubs are giving up but I assume that it's some minor league talent. Seems like that's how the Pirates work. It's amazing how they've dismantled that team. Any thoughts on who the Cubs would give up? These are two decent lefties that should help the pitching staff.
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Well, someone's going to say it

There are already a couple of fanshots on this . . . .

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jul 30, 2009 4:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

oops!

by bergs55 on Jul 30, 2009 4:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

No worries

Main point to consolodate something like this, though, is that it’s easier to keep all the discussion in one place.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jul 30, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

why would they make this trade?

they’d better not give up much. grabow walks too many guys and hasn’t been terribly effective against lefties this year. why? why do this?

by John T. Unger on Jul 30, 2009 4:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

we won't be giving up too much

but he will definitely be an improvement.

he has a lower opponent ops versus lefties than he does righties

by cufban2522 on Jul 30, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

for his career

its nearly dead even

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 30, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was looking at his stats based off the last 3 years

by cufban2522 on Jul 30, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Would you like this deal better

If it meant that we released Heilman?

"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill

by vonde6 on Jul 30, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

people are saying

that it’s Ascanio and Hart for both pitchers

by AGC on Jul 30, 2009 4:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The players going to Pitt are Atkins and somebody else...

awaiting confirmation of the other player(s).

I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 30, 2009 4:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Kovacevic says it is a done deal...

MLB TR says Jay Jackson is involved.

I think I speak for everyone here when I say, "Wait, what the hell are you talking about?"

by Ross on Jul 30, 2009 4:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Why not Sherrill?

I know the Dodgers eventually got him but why didn’t the Cubs pursue him? His numbers are better than Grabow’s.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Jul 30, 2009 4:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

It's Hart and Ascanio, and one other player from Orlando.

I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 30, 2009 4:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

It's Kevin Hart

On WGN just now.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Jul 30, 2009 4:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Hendry to Hart

“Good job on the win. You can pack up and go to Pittsburgh. We wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors.”

by ak123 on Jul 30, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What would have happened if lost?

Tough break kid, but we just traded you to the Nationals from a wet towel and a used rake.

The sun will shine in '69

by gaclaudy on Jul 30, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow.

Thanks for the win…you’re on the Bucs!

by bergs55 on Jul 30, 2009 4:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Good deal

I like it.

I think I speak for everyone here when I say, "Wait, what the hell are you talking about?"

by Ross on Jul 30, 2009 4:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

How long

Do we have both men under contract?

by ak123 on Jul 30, 2009 4:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Grabow is a FA after this year...

… but could bring draft picks if offered arbitration.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Jul 30, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hart, Ascanio, and 3B prospect Josh Harrison

to the Bucs for Grabow and Tom Gorzelanny.

Gorzelanny to be optioned to Iowa. Grabow will be a free agent at year’s end.

by Tangled Up In Blue on Jul 30, 2009 4:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Great job by Hendry

by leothelip on Jul 30, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lame...

Grabow isn’t that good, Gorzelanny is a left-handed Mark Prior.

And they give up Hart and Ascanio? Wow, too much. Maybe in a Sherrill deal but not this. Yikes.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Jul 30, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I disagree.

Ascanio had been displaced by Guzman, Hart, I believe, will be a minor leaguer for a majority of his career. Grabow and Gorz are both lefties, and can either start or bolster the pen. Good deal.

I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...

by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 30, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We can agree to disagree

The book isn’t closed on Hart being an AA/AAA guy the rest of his career. Ascanio is a victim of numbers, that’s fine for now. The return just isn’t enough; one guy with too high a WHIP, the other injured far too often.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Jul 30, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gorzelanny is a left-handed Mark Prior.

What

And they give up Hart and Ascanio? Wow, too much. Maybe in a Sherrill deal but not this. Yikes.

Neither one of them is very good. Certainly not good enough to get Sherrill. Ascanio has the best upside of the two, but he’s awfully wild.

by Wreckard on Jul 31, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gorz was supposed to be the Pirates ace after 2007 then he kept getting hurt.

That’s what he means by that.

Randy Wells. A product of the Roy Halladay School of Pitching, located in Toronto, Canada. Possible relocation.

by Cub Style on Jul 31, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fair enough.

Gorzelany’s stuff isn’t as good, but his injuries aren’t nearly as bad. I feel like the Cubs have shown with Bradley and Harden that they know how to keep injury prone players on the field, so I like their odds with Gorz.

by Wreckard on Jul 31, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Someone needed to keep the trainers busy .. like Gorzelanny

September 24, 2008 Finger injury, 60-day DL.
September 12, 2008 Finger injury, day-to-day.
August 22, 2008 Recalled from Indianapolis (AAA).
July 5, 2008 Optioned to Indianapolis (AAA).
May 10, 2008 Missed 4 games (back injury).
May 6, 2008 Back injury, day-to-day.
March 10, 2008 Re-signed by the Pittsburgh Pirates to a one-year contract.
August 7, 2007 Missed 5 games (left shoulder injury).
July 31, 2007 Left shoulder injury, day-to-day.
March 7, 2007 Re-signed by the Pittsburgh Pirates to a one-year contract.
September 16, 2006 Missed 24 games (left elbow tendinitis).
August 28, 2006 Left elbow tendinitis, 15-day DL (retroactive to August 18th).
August 21, 2006 Left elbow injury, day-to-day.
June 29, 2006 Recalled from Indianapolis (AAA).
March 21, 2006 Optioned to Indianapolis (AAA).
February 9, 2006 Re-signed by the Pittsburgh Pirates to a one-year contract.
September 16, 2005 Contract purchased from Indianapolis (AAA).