Cubs add two nice Jewish boys on same day
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 5:32 PM CDT
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PrintSorry but I can't resist. I have been thinking of this ever since Grabow's name has been in play. Tomorrow according to reliable reports Sam Fuld will rejoin the team and John Grabow will join it. Technically Sam is not Jewish since only his father is but he celebrated Hanukkah and Christmas so I give him a pass. Grabow on the other hand is one of the few Jewish players who comes from a "practicing" and conservative Jewish family. His mom keeps kosher. I am totally non practicing myself but still proud of my heritage . Right now there are over a dozen Jewish players ( including Cub fan favorites Ryan Braun & Jason Marquis. A few years back the Red Sox had 3 Jewish players on their roster, Kevin Youkalis, Gabe Kapler and Adam Stern and GM Theo Epstein said they were working towards a minyan ( 10 Jewish men which under the rules is what is required to hold a service).Well we could work for that. Let's see Youkalis, Ian Kinsler, Braun ( suck it up people) and we are half way there.
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I'm still waiting
for the first Greek Orthodox Cub since Milt Pappas. (Unless I’m missing somebody.)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 30, 2009 5:35 PM CDT reply actions
If we can get Youkalis will Greek God of Walks do ?
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Close enough
I think Karros might have been been a baklava eater, but I had heard he wasn’t. Might have to go back to Harry Chappas to find the last one in a Chicago uniform.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 30, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't Erik Pappas play for the Cubs?
by Jody Jody Davis on Jul 30, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Karros is Greek.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 30, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Being Greek doesn't always mean Orthodox
There’s a Byzantine Catholic denomination that shares many similarities with the Eastern Orthodox Church, but if you had to put them on an org chart, they’d fall under the Catholic side.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Youkilis is actually Jewish too
My wife used to carpool to Sunday school with him and his brother.
Eamus Catuli!
So, he didn't always walk?
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jul 31, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 31, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
That's funny
"Who's Bob Brenly? The guy that used to be the manager for Arizona?" ~ Alfonso Guilleard Soriano
Erik Pappas was a Cub briefly.
No relation to Milt. Chicago-area native, played 17 games for the Cubs in 1991.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Sorry, that's 17 at-bats in 7 games, not 17 games.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
He was hot
He was really hot too.
I remember drooling over him.
I had to delete my twitter account. But you can still find me at fanfiction.net under puckish prosecutor.
by puckishcubsfan on Jul 31, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
And I almost hate to bring this up
But there is a certain Cub who played for the Greek Olympic team in 2004 because his grandmother was born in Greece.
by Jody Jody Davis on Jul 30, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Eric Karros
was a greek
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Is Shawn Green still playing somewhere?
"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.
No retired two years ago
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Sadly, while he retired two years ago, he stopped playing 4 back.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
I was always a big fan of his
woulda liked to have seen him in a Cub uni when he was at his peak. Also, born in DesPlaines.
Could this cause any problems in the Clubhouse...
…should the Cubs add any Muslim players later? Sort of a mini-version of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?
You just had to open that can of worms huh?
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
Well...
… if this starts degenerating into political discussion, it will be deleted.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
but rooting for "your" type of players is okay?
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
It's your site
but the tribal mentality thing bothers me, my 2 cents. I’ll just click outta here.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
I'm agreeing with you here
I’m not indignant or pissed off…if this was just a response in a thread I doubt I’d even notice much less care. But a post with some thought first saying isn’t it nice we have one religion on a team? It’s uncomfortable. I’m usually angry with people that are overly politically correct in censoring so this surprises me… but religion just is not a great idea to post about to me. My 2 cents. Not offended…not feeling great either..and I’m outta here too.
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 30, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
this is why the original post
should never be posted….
introducing religion into the forum, even in a joking manner can inspire someone to cross a line
i enjoy jessica’s posts usually but i don’t get the need to bring the jewish angle into things all the time
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 30, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I know what you're saying.
I’ll keep an eye on comments here.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Grownups should be able to talk about religion
and the differences. And frankly, I rarely see any “Jewish angle”
Perhaps you are projecting?
Anyway, as a non-practioner of anything myself, I suppose my major concern is when is Yom Kippur and how serious are these guys?
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
Yes grownups should, but often can't
and some of us come to sports sites to get away from that stuff. I work in politics, enjoy not having to see political or religous discussions on this site.
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 30, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I should add, this post didn't bother me in the slightest
but I like that Al has a damn near no tolerance policy for religion and political discussion. I don’t want to see those rules weakened
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 30, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions
And if this were the only thread
I would have more sympathy.
Jessica isn’t advocating that Jews are inherently better players, or better people, or deserve playing time as Holocaust reparations or whatever.
She’s just simply saying it’s cool to her, as a Jew, that her favorite team has two Jewish players.
If that offends you or anyone else, then well, grow the hell up.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
by Worf on Jul 30, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
as I said, it doesn't offend me. I simply like the fact that for the most part
religious discussions and politics are kept to a minimum here, and I don’t think “grownups should be able to discuss this” is enough of a reason to ever relax those rules
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 30, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
she is saying
they’re inherently nice boys
:)
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 31, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.
This is the only sign we should see on this site.
by Flatley on Jul 30, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
FWIW, my post was 100% tongue-in-cheek.
Also, I’m pretty sure there aren’t any Muslim players in MLB. I thought it was a pretty funny fanpost.
Yeah, Sam Khalifa retired a few years ago...
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Jul 30, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
It is not about religion
Remember the joke in AIRPLANE where the stewardess is going down the aisle
“Would you like something to read? Do you have anything light? Here’s a pamphlet about famous Jewish athletes.”
Is is just kind of fun & funny two have two Jewish players on a baseball team. It is akin to rooting for someone from
the same ethnic background like Greek but with an added laugh.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
well you got two Cajuns, two men from the Land of the Rising Sun
a boat load of Caribbeans and a few token WASPs
sounds alright to me
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
Um one guy from the Land of the Rising Sun
Unless Toguchi is coming up , please NO ,! but two guys in the general area of the land of the MIDNIGHT sun, well north foreigners from the north anyway.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe you could rephrase 'boatload of caribbeans"?
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Jul 30, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
If it's not about religion, why did you use "Jewish" in the title?
Being Jewish is not the same as being Greek.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Well, I can speak to that.
Being Jewish is cultural as much as religious. I know Jessica quite well and she is about the least religious Jewish person I know.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
True.
Many Jews myself included have no religious beliefs but consider ourselves Jews by heritage. It is a cultural heritage background very much like being Greek. The closest thing I have had to a religious experience is watching Maddux pitch.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
That's it!
Maddux pitch. To bad. Mine was watching Mays catch the catch of all time. Top that,
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
Oh I forgot
I also saw that thing called a homer in the glownin, Man that just seems like yesterday. Set up like a bowling pin Al.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
Oh shoot
a homer in the glomin I think,
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
Gloamin'
And did you really see that in person?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 31, 2009 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I just think this post has a lot more potential for negative than positive
and before I become responsible for any more negativity, I’ll just echo what I saw a few other posters wrote – I’m outta here.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
And also, the phrase is
“Nice Jewish boy from Brooklyn”
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
The Advertisement on the top of my screen
is for free trips to Israel. Thought that was kind of funny.
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
Huh.
I got one for Holiday Inn and “win free MLB tickets”.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Yeah
Its for a website called, Israelonthehouse.com. Even when I left this post and came back, it was there.
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
how bout one for a free trip to the Holiday Inn in Tel Aviv
that would cover it all.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
The ad I see
says “Surprise her with a Bigger Penis”… That’s the first time I’ve gotten that one lol
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Jul 30, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Stop browsing horse pr0n
cuz that ad probably means you got a virus. You should probably clean up your rig.
Life is parallel to hell but I must maintain
by dr stabbingworth on Jul 30, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
No my computer is plenty clean...
That’s the ad that’s a part of BCB on the top right right above the fanpost bar
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Jul 30, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
im gonna make a penis pill with ginseng
- surprise her with a bigger penis — and more smarts!!! *
/ my 1st million $$
I work for the Cubs so I am really getting a kick out of a lot of these replies.
Hahaha yea that's the one I got too...
And if you subscribe to the idea that Jessica posted that this site links ads that are relevant to the post… Well I won’t go any further with that but let’s just say it was a strange coincidence :)
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Jul 30, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
no thats not my banner ad
thats the pill i’m gonna make a million dollars on – a penis pill with ginseng.
we should not be talking considering our common choice of avatars
I work for the Cubs so I am really getting a kick out of a lot of these replies.
Yesterday on the Astros blog
There was an ad for Microcoft Bing with a picture of a baby crying.
Now there's an advertisement for JDate.com
With 2/3 of a Star of David.
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
I just got the free trip to Israel Ad
along with the report of JDate you have to wonder if it IS random. It may be one of those things where some ads do try to link to topics. I see it in general and sometimes it funny how off they are in just picking up one word. Some blog of outdoor folks might be discussing cubs as in the REAL baby bears and an ad for Chicago Cubs hats comes on. Most of the time these things are way off the mark.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
I think it would be kind of interesting...
to see the an ethnic/cultural/religous breakdown of the players of the MLB. Obviously it doesn’t impact anything, but I’m a nerd for demographic studies…
Here
is a hint. We are all people.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
Well that's nice and "one-worldly" and all...
But we’re all people with differences between us (both in the physical sense, and just as importantly in how we think). It’s what makes us interesting. Being open-minded is not pretending that those differences don’t exist. It’s understanding that we’re all better off accepting and understanding the free-expression of those differences.
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jul 30, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am sorry
but I see no humor in any of this. People are people. I only wish that mankind can look past what religion we follow, or what color our skin is. Try looking at each other regardless of what others see, but what you see. Accept all for what the person offers, not what pre-conceived thoughts that society brings.
Honestly I do not care if a ballplayer is black,white, jewish or christian or even an atheist. All I have to say is play ball.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on Jul 30, 2009 7:42 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
So we can't comment if player are Cajuns, Canadians, college graduates,
etc because all of those have been the subject of posts more than a few times. This is not a religious issue. Fuld just had a nice wedding in a Catholic church. It is about the oddity of two players from a background that traditionally is not noted for athletic prowess. It is fairly similar to noting the oddity of having two Canadians and two Cajuns on one roster. Is it offensive to call Youkalis The Greek God of Walks ? . We talk about non athletic parts of players background or personality all the time.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Good questions
I do however question your comment “This is not a religious issue. Fuld just had a nice wedding in a Catholic church”. You say this is not a religious issue, but in your next breath you mention he was married in a Catholic church. Personally I do not care what religious ceramony he had. You are confusing religion with nationality and college. I think those are apples and oranges. My point is mearly we are all the same. Religion stirs up all sorts of mis-guided opinions of many. Which is a shame. Face it Jessica, many people are not nice. This post has the possibility of a forum for some to come forth with less than positive thoughts. I do applaud Al for keeping a close eye on this. Why? Because as I have stated religion for whatever reason can be a very explosive issue.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
Fuld is Jewish by heritage not by religious belief
this is the point I have been trying to make re his recent wedding . I am honestly stunned that this post would generate controversy and I am sorry if it has. I know it may sound strange but I really don’t think of it is as being about religion at all but about what we tend to call ethnic background. It was meant to be lighthearted so if it really a sore point I will delete it.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Believe me
I think we are on the same page. I guess if I looked at it this way. If I wrote a post, the Cubs have two Sweds on their team in the same day. I understand I would be stunned at my reply as well. Do not apologize, I actually had a nice time discussing this with you. No sore point on my end. If for whatever reason I came off as a jerk, I do say I am sorry. I am anything but a jerk.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
The Cubs have two Canadians.
I suspect they just got Harden so he could speak Canadian with Dempster.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Who gives a rat's....
About his wedding, his heritage, his religion blah blah blah. We don’t care!! We joined this blog to talk Chicago Cubs baseball!! All I care about Fuld is that he produces on the diamond!
Go Cubs Go!!!!
Then don't read any posts that are not on field events
It was pretty obvious this one wasn’t. Look I get that some folks think this was a little “off base” in seeming to be about religion when I did not see it that way but not wanting to discuss anything that is not about stats and game plays would be pretty boring and certainly does not describe this site.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
If I wanted to talk religion
I would join a religious blog. I come here to talk Cubs baseball.
Go Cubs Go!!!!
Then you should have
skipped this one. Al does not care if other topics are discussed on here.
Here’s a simple thing to do. Just click out of this post. You don’t have to check back in if it bothers you.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
You know,
I’m getting utterly sick of you. Your only contribution around here seems to be defending everything Al says, like he needs a spokesperson or a bodyguard. You go post to post correcting spelling errors and grammar. I don’t remember seeing a grammar police on staff! You never post a opinion on baseball matters but are quick to jump on the bandwagon when you feel the poster’s opinion is incorrect.
Would this post have been made if the new player was a Christian? Heck no! So why are they so special because they are Jewish? This is exactly why these post don’t belong on a “baseball blog”. For one I get sick of these kinda things being shoved down my throat all the time. In one breathe everyone screams equality etc and the next breathe we wanna constantly give certain religions or races special recognition like this constantly! Thus making religions such as Christianity seem inferior. Like I said above if these ballplayers were Baptist or Pentecostal etc, they wouldn’t have been given special recognition.
I better stop there before I say something I shouldn’t and this is exactly why religion and politics should stay far far away from the intended subject of this blog “Chicago Cubs Baseball”
Go Cubs Go!!!!
Slow down
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
if ou feel this blog or anything on BCB is shoved down your throat...
might I suggest you go to other sites? why bother reading this post if you did not find it to your liking?
Jessica was commenting on a minority not known for its athletic prowess (I am a proud member of this group!). To say that a post like this is making Christianity seem inferior is just insanity. The whole point of this point is saying how inferior we are as a minority so when two are on a team at a time, it is like lightening striking. I did not see a discussion of cloning and a mass takeover of the bench…let’s lighten up!!
To interpret this post as calling others inferior is a stretch. It was Jessica being self-effacing of her own heritage. That is the way I took it too, being of the same heritage. Let’s all have a beer at the White House, OK?
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
So it ok to talk about since you are a part of the minority
I think it doesn’t need to be brought up at all. If the response it has stirred up isn’t evidence enough that it doesn’t need to be a part of the discussion then I don’t know what is.
A lot of people, myself included, come here to discuss the Cubs, not who is what religion and whether they practice or not.
"I don’t believe that things go your way," said Lou Piniella, the Cubs manager.
"I believe you make things go your way."
People made a big deal out of this?
Wow. I’ve wondered on occasion if Ryan Theriot and Mike Fontenot were Catholics. Anyone got the inside scoop for me there?
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Yea they do
They produce books, special baseball cards, etc. For many of the faith, this is in fact a big deal.
They do?
Do you have a link?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 31, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
I'll hunt
But my cousins own the baseball cards and my parents own the “Guess Who’s Jewish” books.
http://www.ajhs.org/store/bc_01.html
That’s the link for cards. They’re really cool actually. That’s how I learned about Adam Greenberg :)
Oh, I thought you meant Theriot and Fontenot
Because you replied to Ace.
But yeah, that’s cool!
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 31, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, maybe piqued curiosity more than hopes
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 31, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
You miss the point
Jessica simply pointed out that they were Jewish. I can’t figure out why anyone complained.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Exactly. No one forced
anyone to have to read this post.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
you seem to be more of a spokesperson or moderator for Al
going around moderating his web site for free
I work for the Cubs so I am really getting a kick out of a lot of these replies.
Interestingly enough, much of your contribution is criticism of others'
And not in a polite manner.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 31, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions
If this wasn't worth discussing a little
Then they wouldn’t make a Jewish Baseball Card series each year. I don’t think they have one for other religions.
People in the Jewish Community take pride when someone of their faith is part of a team. We are minorities in the field of sports so its a rarity. So as I stated before, maybe this isn’t the best place to post the comments, it’s still something important for this poster and other Jews to discuss. And perhaps, the person who posted this has nobody to talk about it with.
Sorry
A few funny points:
So as I stated before, maybe this isn’t the best place to post the comments, it’s still something important for this poster and other Jews to discuss.
So now its a “For Jews Only” post? — ok, ok I know you didn’t mean that.
And perhaps, the person who posted this has nobody to talk about it with.
Hehe, you can’t be serious on this one, I’m sure the OP has friends outside of the internets. — Ok, again I know you didn’t mean it that way — or did you?
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"
On points 1 and 2
The first point, yea I did not mean it like that at all.
As for the second point, there are many locations around the US where there are very few Jewish people.
Plus I don’t know Doggie Stalker but he/she might not live in Illinois. Therefore this person might not have anyone to talk about the Cubs with in general. It’s not about not having friends outside of the internet, it’s about not having friends to talk about this to.
Jessica is in
New York, which I think should make it a crime for her to own Cubs season tickets, which is why I think she should sell the seats to me. :D
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 31, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Well then this post is relevent for her
I’m in NY/CT and I can’t talk about Cubs with anyone!
I should just go to the Cubs group in NYC I think at Standings but I’m not good with meeting up with strangers.
Come by this Sat night
A small group of us will be at Kelly’s on Ave A near Houston watching the Cubs beat the Marlins.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 31, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks
I’ll seriously consider it. I did try to go last year for opening day but I went to Standings not knowing that the place was closed down. So me and a buddy went to a reg bar and watched it on ESPN.
I’ll post on here tomorrow if I’m making the drive (I"m in Stamford CT so its a good 45 minutes but could be worth it).
Standings was bad
That name was LITERAL there was almost nowhere to sit plus they sold ONLY beer, no other liquor except one bad wine, no other beverages of ANY kind.
Kelly’s is a fun place but actually only be about 4 of us tomorrow. Weekdays are busier. However love to meet you.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 31, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Cool to know
I definitely can’t do weekdays due to a horrible traffic commute I’d deal with. I’ll definitely let you know if I’m coming, could be fun, mostly have to see my plans and if I need to work tomorrow.
What a shame you went to STANDINGS for the opener
Sign up with yahoo for the meet up group for correct info
http://cubs.meetup.com/34/
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 31, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm doing that right now
Their website was still up last year promoting hosting Cubs games! How was I to know lol.
Yeah I know
Just me being a pain in the @ss, once in a while I need to get it out of my system.
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"
Like I said, if
you don’t like the topic click out of it. No one forced you to read this fan post.
I have better things to do than correct others spelling and grammar on here. There are some on here who do like to do just that but it’s not me.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
A response
I would join a religious blog. I come here to talk Cubs baseball.
Last I checked, this site wasn’t all about you.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
Cubs Baseball IS a religion.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly...
And that’s the only religion that needs to be talked about on here.
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Jul 30, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Ooh, if you follow the link and just click, you can be ordained.
As they think all should have their own beliefs, you could be a Minister of The Church of Baseball, Chicago Cubs Parish.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
Who are the "we" you are referring to?
I like to know a little about the players on the team. They’re human beings, not robots.
"In an ocean or in a glass, cool water is such a gas."
by markleonette on Jul 30, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
this post is about cubs baseball
I work for the Cubs so I am really getting a kick out of a lot of these replies.
Again
“Grabow on the other hand is one of the few Jewish players who comes from a “practicing” and conservative Jewish family."
“GM Theo Epstein said they were working towards a minyan ( 10 Jewish men which under the rules is what is required to hold a service).”
How is that not about religion? I don’t necessarily care but if you are trying to avoid any religious overtones, you didn’t do a very good job.
by IllinoisCubs on Jul 30, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Theo Epstein was kidding and I was kidding
He was no more trying collect 10 Jewish players than I thought we could end up with Braun Kinsler etc. Believe me I get that this was not phrased well but the idea of me wanting to post about religion would be funny if you knew me.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
So Grabow doesn't come from a praticing and conservative family
and 10 Jewish men don’t qualify a service?
That was a joke? I don’t get it the joke then.
by IllinoisCubs on Jul 30, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes it would
be, I am laughing all the way to the bank:) Funny stuff
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
Over?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
What's your vector, Victor?
Huh?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 31, 2009 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Excuse me stewardess, I speak jive.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 31, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Have you ever been in a Turkish prison?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 31, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
You ever watch and sweaty gladiator movies?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 31, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Have you ever seen a grown man naked?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 31, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Back to the thread about Fuld
Who goes down? Hart leaves, Grabow comes aboard. I assume Atkins or Stevens goes back down? 13 pitchers is too many, but I could see Lou wanting 12 with 6 more games in 6 days on the road coming up. Then 4 in Colorado which still isn’t the most friendly place to pitch. Humidor for the balls or not.
My money is on Atkins
Though personally I would not mind seeing Shark go down. If they plan to bring Gorzelanny up soon than another pitcher would go down when they do. The more interesting & difficult question is who goes down when Geo comes up ? Fonty, Hoff ?
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Second
Yes Shark should go down. Actually he shoud have never been called. The Cubs at AAA had him starting. They pull him up and walla, he sits on the pine. Put him down to learn the all important 3rd and 4th pitch.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
Not to
beat a dead horse. But what is going to be the roll of Gozz( first one to supply a nickname, I win!) going to be?
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
To pitch in AAA just like he did for the Pirates ?
Hell if I know. I am kind of prejudiced by seeing two of his starts last year Vs the Cubs in which he was just horrible. Worse
than Ortiz or at least as bad. Blou also assures us that he is a good back of the rotation guy so that again makes me nervous. Ideally he could just be a LOOGY or long reliever and Marshall could start but I have a bad feeling that is not what will happen.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
At this hour
cst I will not look up Gozz’s stats> I am going off of memory. I recall him being a lh starter with upside. Also I do not recall him being that old. If he can fulfill what many had thought he would become, the Cubs just got a deal.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
He was good in 07 sucked in 08 been in good in the minors in 08
A crap shoot
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to
beat a dead horse, but he’s already been known for quite some time as “Gorzo”, or “Gorz.”
Just sayin’
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"
besides
Gozz is too close to Guzer, the DESTRUCTOR…
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 31, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
LOL
I guess Stay Puft Marshmallow Man was not the best form to take for Gozer.
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"
Let's show this prehistoric bitch how we do things downtown
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 31, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
what did you DO, Ray?
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 31, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Good thinking, Ray
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 31, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh no
league rules are very clear about this. A ballplayer while once traded can not keep his nickname. I think the union also has some silly rule about this. In fact Mad Dog has quite the legal battle for a number of years. He did win it however.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
Can't he just give the player that now has the nickname a Rolex or Something?
The sun will shine in '69
Braun is not Jewish
To be Jewish, you have to convert or your mother has to be Jewish. Braun has neither and he also doesn’t consider himself a Jew
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/21634
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
My hate for him does not waver.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
I hesitate to comment on this
but it is exactly the same with Fuld. Neither is Jewish by belief or what would be called “Jewish law” ( Jewish mother etc) but both have said they are proud and interested in their Jewish heritage. It is kind of the point I have clearly been very clumsy at making that this is about cultural background/ heritage. not religion.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
IIRC
Braun said he really didn’t know much about Judaism. I actually remember reading an article saying that it was his grandmother who was Jewish, which makes his father Jewish, but even his father wasn’t a practicing Jew. Braun has not had a Bar Mitzvah or any other formal Jewish participation
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
by Musicdude10 on Jul 30, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Another blow to our crazy skinhead and nazi fanbase.
It furthers the fact that Hitler was a Cards fan.
Randy Wells. A product of the Roy Halladay School of Pitching, located in Toronto, Canada. Possible relocation.
Well
actually, he was. It seems the hight of the Gashouse gang spured him on to become the biggest fan of the hated Cards, In fact he hated LaRussa before he was even born. Creepy
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
I like this post
And it’s something I would love to comment on (my family and I always get into the Jewish ball player discussion). However I agree with most that this might not be the most appropriate place to talk. I don’t really know where that would be.
Thankfully, and I’m quite shocked to be honest, there really hasn’t been anything offensive written on here in regards to fellow Jewish ball players.
Regardless, I wish our new acquisitions the best of luck and hope they will help us win in October.
Why is a player's religion allowed has a topic ???
I’m sorry, but I don’t get why we have discussion thread on the fact that Grabow is Jewish. Should I start another thread about those players who happen to be Lutheran like me?
What exactly is the point of discussing the Jewish players within the Cub organization? Are you trying to bait the anti-Semitics or something? It’s great that there are a host of Jewish ballplayers in baseball. But why are they being singled out? It is irrelevant whether a ballplayer is black, white, Jewish, Muslim, Christian, whatever.
Poltics and religion should have no place on this board.
Cubs will win 79 to 83 games. Season has been over for weeks. St. Louis will eventually run away with this division. And you can print it. BLou (7/21/09)
Cats and Dogs living together....
I agree with BLou.
So Obama is a White Sox fan, which clearly indicates that his policies need to be rethought. His comments about the police were totally out of line and for him to encourage drinking by having a beer with each party was totally uncalled for.
See Politics and Religion are both subjects that should have nothing to do in this forum. Tongue in cheeck or not, they are hot topics and unwelcomed by some.
Let’s all agree that we are here for the Cubs and we can pick apart their moves by what the players do on the field and what the GM and Skipper do behind the scenes. There is plenty there for us to disagree about.
The sun will shine in '69
the original post is cubs-related
its not off your chosen topic
I work for the Cubs so I am really getting a kick out of a lot of these replies.
Jessica was discussing
the Cubs. Feel free to not participate.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
why would it not be allowed???
and who are you to decide what has and does not have a place on this board??!?!?!?
I work for the Cubs so I am really getting a kick out of a lot of these replies.
mountain
meet molehill. Seriously.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 30, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
You have no place on this board
Even though you didn’t do anything offensive on here yet…you probably have to be restrained from writing anything anti-semetic considering it was only a few days ago you wrote something racist on here.
So I really hope before you write any other responses on here you for once in your life actually read what you write before you push post.
No one is holding
a gun to your head making you read this post. Feel free to pass on it.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
I don't understand why this has to be brought up either
Al is quick to shoot down political discussions and I think religion should be left out of it whether it is a cultural thing or not. And there were religious overtones in the post, I don’t care if it’s a joke or whatever. I want to talk about the Cubs and I don’t care to single out whether they are Jewish, Budhist, or whatever.
"I don’t believe that things go your way," said Lou Piniella, the Cubs manager.
"I believe you make things go your way."
So talk about them
There are about 25 other threads where you can do so.
I grow so tired of people whose response to their own discomfort is to try to inflict silence on others.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
by Worf on Jul 30, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
Rec'd
Exactly. What is so hard about ignoring something you don’t want to see. I’ve been on this site for three years, and people still don’t seem to understand they are capable of reading (or not reading) what they want. You don’t have to read the site cover-to-cover (and if you do, it’s not necessary to comment on everything).
"In an ocean or in a glass, cool water is such a gas."
by markleonette on Jul 30, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Well said.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
Al Yellon has become arbitrary and capricious in what he permits on his blog
But its his blog and he can legislate how he wants to legislate.
Cubs will win 79 to 83 games. Season has been over for weeks. St. Louis will eventually run away with this division. And you can print it. BLou (7/21/09)
Your very existence on this site
should be proof of Al’s patience and tolerance.
Come to think of it, MY very existence on this site is proof of that as well.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
lol
I’m on retainer from Al. I drive traffic on this blog. Like Reggie Jackson on those great Yankee teams, I am the straw that stirs the drink.
Cubs will win 79 to 83 games. Season has been over for weeks. St. Louis will eventually run away with this division. And you can print it. BLou (7/21/09)
I was thinking more along the lines of...
the turd in the punchbowl….but whatever.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Reggie Jackson
is not amused.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 30, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I would describe it more as an inflamed boil on
the buttocks of this blog.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 31, 2009 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Do you think he'll let me post pictures of Jesus?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm posting a picture of a goddess, and no one can stop me!
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 30, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Stop the presses!
Who’s that?
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Joanna Krupa
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=joanna+krupa&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g9
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 30, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Did they have cameras back then...?
I’d like a copy, please!
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Jul 31, 2009 6:28 AM CDT up reply actions
the subject of the original post isn't really religion
it’s the cubs recent additions. the original post just points out that a couple of them are jewish. why did you come in here in the first place? the title of the post is not deceptive at all
I work for the Cubs so I am really getting a kick out of a lot of these replies.
Let's get Kinsler and Braun
And, I’ll even take Marquis back:)
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
Still mourning
DeRosa, but not for his hitting. I’m Italian, he’s Italian….too bad he’s now on the hated Cards.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
the hand-wringing over whether this is "allowed" is hilarious
you guys are a bunch of fascists. this is an open forum (subject, of course, to Al’s editorial control) and this post is even cubs related and topical!!! unless your name is Al, you are NOT a moderator.
the title of this post is not deceptive. if you don’t want to talk (or, the horror, even READ) about a player’s religion or culture, then for the love of science, click somewhere else.
I work for the Cubs so I am really getting a kick out of a lot of these replies.
by joeschmitt on Jul 30, 2009 11:15 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Nothing wrong
with being proud of your ethnicity or faith. Probably the reason I miss Matt Murton.
You are "Orange" too ?
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you pray to Matt Murton every night like I do?
Praise Matt!
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
by Musicdude10 on Jul 30, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I check is stats every day
even though he is AAA ( poor guy needs to find a team that can use him). I remain loyal.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 31, 2009 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I will finish this post with one final comment.
We have come a long way from the days when All in the Family was the #1 show on TV. We have come a long way as in backwards as a society. Anything we are uncomfortable about has become “PC/non-PC” issues.
It is a shame that politics and religion can not be discussed freely as it was in the days of All in the Family. I personally think that keeping these conversations private just reinforces closed minds and gives us less chance to grow as a society.
The discomfort expressed in this post is such a reflection of fears that need not be so prevalent in our society. We are better than this.
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
by LAcarl519 on Jul 30, 2009 11:19 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
WRECK THIS POST
FOR THE HATERS
I work for the Cubs so I am really getting a kick out of a lot of these replies.
Done.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 31, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Perhaps if we just all sat down and had a beer together...
we could have a teachable moment.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2009 11:37 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
yes, everyone would want to drink and teach
no one would listen and interact. true.
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
Wasn't Steve
Ontiverous Greek?
Where I went to HS it was all Greeks and Jews. We really relished the treats from both cultures. Especially when we had the munchies. I also had a friend who loved teaching me cuss Greek “slang”, I had him on the ground laughing. Reminded me of the My Big Fat Greek Wedding or something.
Steve Ontiveros...
… though born in California, was of Mexican descent.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
No good without Adam Greenberg
Still trying to make it back
http://www.njjewishnews.com/njjn.com/070209/sptAdamGreenberg.html
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 31, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
Come by Stamford and see him play for the Bridgeport Bluefish.
$1 Thirsty Thursdays. Me and some friends are heading there in a few weeks.
I ALMOST went to see him in Newark a few days ago
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 31, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Newark is the team to see them play
But I won’t drive down to that area of NJ…or rather no one will go for that ride. So when they come to Bridgeport we’re going to that game unless it already took place.
It is an easy ride from here on PATH
and they have 2-1 promotion but I pooped out as I had just come from the 7 games in DC & Philly.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 1, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't blame you at all
My drive down to DC and back in one day was so exhausting! Thankfully I brought 3 friends with me to see the game.
Hey I meant to ask you to change the subject, the meetup.com Cubs group I just joined. What the average age of people who go to the bar to watch games? I’m 25. Am I going to be the youngest person there usually or will there be people my age?
Most people are your age
I am probably the OLDEST person there. As I have posted before I don’t reveal my age but older than Greg Maddux and younger than both Francos ( John & Julio) . Mind you all of them were still playing when I came up with that.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 1, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh that's very cool
I actually figured that most would be 10-15 years older than me. Thanks for the info.
I’m looking into taking the train downtown to see the game tonight. I just have to wait and see if I need to come into work first (I’m unfortunately on call this weekend). Plus I also hate watching the Marlins play the Cubs so I might rather just not watch the game at all this weekend!!
There maybe be only 3 or 4 of us but it is nice bar to hang out
and a lot of good food for delivery or pick up.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 1, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Mistake
Eckstein is not Jewish but he’s on there.
I can't ID them all but Ecksein should not be there
and lot of the others look sort of odd. I
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 31, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I make no claim to know if it is right
I googled jewish baseball players and that is the image that came up.
The sun will shine in '69
Berkman isn't Jewish.
Neither are about half the others.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I think maybe the list was a joke
hence the “sort of” . There are certainly not enough current Jewish players to make a team let alone an All Star team. I have seen lists like this that take in the entire HISTORY of baseball so Greenberg ( um Hank not Adam) Koufax, Holtzman and others make up a decent team
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 1, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions
I just remember the joke with Eckstein
After the Cardinals won the World Series he was invited to be on the Israel or the Jewish ball club in the off season but he turned it down. When he was on Letterman, he was asked why and Eckstein said it was simple, he wasn’t Jewish.
How do you leave off the best Jewish hitter ever?
Rod Carew!
A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
--Winston Churchill
by lookingdeadred on Aug 1, 2009 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I was wondering who that was
I think it must have been a bad joke as in the Angel Elijah who you are supposed to set out the extra place for at Passover. I think between that an Eckstein we can bet this guy is either stupid or thought he was being funny. I am surprised he does not have a picture of Solomon Torres.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 1, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
This was interesting
This was interesting to follow and most of the posts were thoughtful.
Sue made an excellent point which I have made more than once. If you don’t like a topic ignore it and move on. If there is someone with a gun to your head forcing you to read things you don’t like call the police.
My sister in law is Jewish and my nephews and niece are being raised and taught about both religions. I have learned a lot especially from her Uncle who is a Rabbi and I have a natural curiousity and want my children to learn more about the religion their cousins are part of.
I happen to know several Cubs players are catholic because they happen to go to my church sometimes during the season. (I often go Sunday nights or Monday nights instead of traditional Sunday mornings because we prefer the young priest who conducts them).
I had to delete my twitter account. But you can still find me at fanfiction.net under puckish prosecutor.
i've been visiting family in Columbus OH
and finally am getting a little caught up with this thread .. Actually, I’m quite surprised its even still up
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
Don't know how serious Grabow is
But Yom Kippur — Jewish Day of Atonement — begins at nightfall on Sunday, Sept. 27 and continues until nightfall Monday, Sept. 28.
Cubs are at San Francisco for a 3:05 p (Central) game on Sept. 27 and have an off-day Sept. 28 (barring makeups that the cubs.com schedule hasn’t listed yet)
So, in other words, this might not have any baseball effect, as far as players missing games.
By the way, I would whole-heartedly support any player taking his religion’s Holy Day — it’s not a holiday, it’s a Holy Day — off, regardless of the game.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
That would be cool
I remember reading that Jason Marquis wouldn’t pitch during the High Holidays last year.
Koufax refused to pitch game 1 of the 1965 series because of Yom Kippur
He took a lot of heat for his decision from some in the media and some fans, but not form anyone within the organization. The heat got worse after Drysdale got knocked around in their loss in game 1.
A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
--Winston Churchill
by lookingdeadred on Aug 2, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Story about Drysdale's bad game in that WS...
… when manager Walter Alston came out to get him after he had been pounded by the Twins, Drysdale supposedly said, “Bet you wish I were Jewish, too.”
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I can believe Drysdale saying something like that
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by lookingdeadred on Aug 2, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
It shouldn't have been an issue at all
But I understand that in 1965, it could be.
I’ve never understood why more NBA players don’t say to Stern, “Dude, it’s Christmas. Bite me”
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
Because maybe the NBA players don't care about anything but their contracts?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Not true
As noted below he has said he would prefer not to but has done so when needed. i don’t know Grabow but I expect it is the same.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 2, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Stone
Didn’t Steve Stone miss the celebration of the division in 03 because it was on Yom Kippur?
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by puckishcubsfan on Aug 2, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Marquis
I remember reading about that with marquis.
I also heard a great story of him explaining the meaning to a couple of the players on the team who asked.
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Oh good my favorite Jewish player quote
Now that I have an excuse
Marquis ( who will play on Yom Kippur if he is needed but would prefer not to) and Brad Ausmus were both playing in a game
on Yom Kippur in I believe 2001. They asked Ausmus ( who is not religious) how he felt about it and he responded
" I am atoning for my bad first half of the season"
I laugh every time I think about it. A quick witted Dartmouth grad who FYI came in second ( but a DISTANT second) to Maddux in
last years poll of players of who they thought the smartest player in the game was.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 2, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
It is just a phrase that is used
often ironically. It is generally meant as a sort of joke.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 3, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
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