Thanks For The Win, Kevin Hart, Now Here's Your Ticket To Pittsburgh: Cubs Pound Astros Again 12-3
For those of you who want to discuss today's Cubs trade with the Pirates, go to this post just below this recap.
For the rest of you, a bit of discussion of today's 12-3 Cubs blowout of the Astros, which concluded a 6-1 homestand, would be a nice ending to this afternoon.
Ryan Theriot and Kosuke Fukudome were two of the biggest hitting heroes today -- Theriot drove in four runs with a double, sac fly and groundout, and Fukudome singled, doubled and tripled, also knocking in four runs. There was plenty of longball power to go around, too -- Jake Fox and Milton Bradley went back-to-back in the Cubs' five-run third inning; Bradley's batting average pushed over the .250 mark for the first time this season and he also made a couple of nice catches of Astros fly balls with his back against the ivy.
All told the Cubs pounded out 13 hits and drew six walks against an Astros pitching staff that has allowed ten or more runs ten times this season -- and two days in a row to the Cubs. It's gotten so bad for Houston that they released today's starting pitcher, Russ Ortiz, following his horrendous performance in which he allowed nine hits, three walks and nine earned runs in 2.1 innings; Ortiz took 68 pitches to record seven outs.
Kevin Hart didn't have his best stuff today -- though he issued only two walks, he also hit two batters and barely survived a shaky second inning in which the Astros took a 1-0 lead and had the bases loaded with one out. Hart got Ortiz, in what very well may be his final major league at-bat, to hit into an inning-ending double play, and then the Cubs opened up on Ortiz in the bottom of the second. Even Hart's at-bat in that inning, in which he hit with the bases loaded after Koyie Hill was intentionally passed, nearly produced a couple of runs; Hart lined a rocket that Kaz Matsui snared just before it landed in right field for a hit. Hart did smack a single to right field in the five-run third.
So thanks, Kevin, and good luck in Pittsburgh, where you're likely going to be the #3 starter behind Zach Duke and Paul Maholm -- that is, if Duke isn't traded before tomorrow's deadline; there have been plenty of rumors about that happening. What must it be like to be a Pirates fan right now? They've traded virtually every recognizable name on the team; the only starting players left from Opening Day are Ryan Doumit (who spent a lot of the year on the DL), Andy LaRoche and Brandon Moss. Ronny Cedeno, who is hitting .167 with a .213 OBA, is their starting shortstop.
The Cubs have done what they needed to do in this homestand -- beat up on inferior teams. Though the Astros came in with an over-.500 record, they are clearly not very good, especially with Lance Berkman out; today's blowout gives them a -48 run differential, which is pretty bad for a team that had pretensions of diving back into the NL Central race until this series. Despite Milwaukee's 7-3 win over Washington today, I don't see the Brewers as serious contenders, either. (Not to mention that splitting a four-game series with the worst team in baseball in your home park isn't a way of screaming "contender", either.) There seems to be something missing from that club (in addition to a horrendous pitching staff); in my opinion the NL Central is now a two-team race.
Today's announced crowd of 41,524 was the second-largest paid crowd of the season, just short of yesterday's 41,538, the largest. It does seem odd that the two biggest crowds of the year would be on weekday afternoons vs. Houston, but the likely explanation is that those games would not have a lot of requests from players & team employees for freebies, so those tickets go on general sale. There were long lines at the day-of-game ticket windows on Waveland today even after game time, likely explaining the high paid attendance. There were some empty seats, likely reflecting the forecast of rain, and when a light rainshower hit the park in the bottom of the 8th inning, Wrigley Field emptied out faster than that "cheap brand" ketchup in that Heinz commercial from years ago.
It won't get any easier when the Cubs visit Florida this weekend; the Marlins have a good pitching staff and they are only two games off the wild-card lead. Take two of three down there and then we're really talking about a run that could be sustained for some time. The Cubs' 11-3 record since the All-Star break is the best in the NL (1/2 game better than the Phillies, pending their game vs. the Giants tonight). Onward -- things are looking up!
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Great homestand!
The offense is certainly clicking the way it should be. Hopefully things stay hot and we build up a nice lead into August.
It was only a matter of time with Ortiz, the guy is finished.
You ARE freaking out MAN!
What a great homestand,
now we have to parlay that into better play on the road.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
I like the trade
Though I wouldn’t have mind having Duke instead of the other two pitchers; hell who knows we may get him tomorrow..
I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!
and the Pirates would not mind having Vitters
Sorry but Hill for A-Ram is once a decade.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Remember that Rami was a throw in...
Lofton was the centerpiece of that deal, necessitated by CPat going down.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 30, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
No way was Ramirez a throw in. Hendry had targeted the guy and Pitt knew that they weren't going to be able to pay him down the road.
by Acapulco Taco Pie on Jul 30, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not sure what Ramirez's contract status was at the time...
… but I do know the Pirates had to dump it.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Rami signed a 3yr/$9.5 mil deal with Pitt after the '01 season.
‘02:$0.5M, ’03:$3M, ’04:$6M
- Courtesy Cot’s Baseball Contracts
You’re killin’ me Smalls!
Throw in is a bit extreme
because the PTBNL list included all the top prospects on the Cubs, or most of them. Without Rami in the deal that list would have included lower prospects.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
+3
or at least +2. Does anyone have the pitching matchups handy?
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Whew
The Cubs miss Johnson… I say the Marlins release Nolasco 20 minutes after the game’s over Sunday.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Johnson pitched last night
And held the Braves down to a pair of homers. Meanwhile, he jacked a 3-run shot of his own to pretty much win the game single-handedly.
Yup – I’m glad we don’t see him…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jul 30, 2009 10:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
as opposed to todays starters
TBT v. TBR
by tim815 on Jul 30, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
ISWYDT
lol
"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.
Well played, sir
"[Obama's] top advisors are Cub fans, so he has a chance." - Lou Piniella, 16 July 2009
by CaughtInTheVines on Jul 30, 2009 7:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
and I wish Kevin Hart the best of luck in Pittsburgh
saw him pitch against DC a week ago and really liked his stuff.
I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!
Startin' to come together, Pepper, startin' to come together!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 30, 2009 6:02 PM CDT reply actions
Houston seems like they got their season backwards.
Usually they start out poorly and finish strong. Might be working the other way this year.
I’m not sure how this Astros team was ever on the verge of first place. They looked like Pittsburgh with only slightly less disgusting uniforms.
"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.
they were 6-4 before playing the Cubs and actually swept the Cards at Minute Made.
Not bad
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Jul 30, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's hope
That they have some luck against the Cards this weekend.
"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
Dome seems...
…to be definitely coming around in the leadoff spot! I hope he keeps it up by the time the Cubs make it back out to California.
Fukudome's triple-slash line
… is now .274/.383/.449… OPS .832. If he can perform at this level the rest of the year, he’s a very productive player offensively, not to mention plus in the outfield.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Any idea what his...
…numbers are since taking the #1 hole? Len n’ Bob were saying he’s batting .321 at the start of today’s game.
Yes, he definitely would be. He’ll start approaching that level we all expected out of him.
you can see...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I knew there...
…was a reason why I stayed away from Baseball Reference.
Seriously though, thanks. That’s a damn lot of data…
I have to say as a Fukudome basher
that he has done very well in the leadoff spot.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
Yeah, he...
…definitely is doing the job. Now only he’d steal a few more bases (like he does in MLB The Show), and things would be grand.
Maybe we’ve now “settled” on a lineup that we all can be happy with?
I think so
again I was a huge proponent of keeping Soriano in the leadoff spot, but the changes have worked across the board. Leave it as is and we will score tons of runs.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
I can see why...
…you liked Fonzi in the leadoff spot, but I always wanted to have somebody who ‘gets on base’ as opposed trying to go yard; this way there’s a shot a multiple runs as opposed to one.
Having Dome's
Japanese hitting coach around for a bit seems to have been quite productive
"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg
I got a text from a Cardinals fan today
asking when the Cubs plan on beating a real baseball team.
My response- “didn’t the astros just sweep you guys?”
Great series and great homestand. Miami is a bit of a house of horrors for us, but hopefully the offense stays hot and we can win two of 3.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
I was getting hitched last year when the Cubs took the Miami Lakes swing
What was the record? Two-of-three or one-of three?
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
We were on the fun side
of a Kevin Gregg meltdown IIRC
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
Yes
And Darryle Ward’s home run ball has still yet to land.
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 30, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I would've told him "October."
"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.
I just feel like we don't play well there
I know last year we did, but I feel like Miami, Chase Field, and Philly are 3 places that we just don’t play well.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
Let's be fair:
81 games at Wrigley and 81 at Nationals Park.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
I'm not opposed to that
Or playing as visitors at Miller Park against the Astros. That always brings great results.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
dont forget to have z not pitch for an extended period of time
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Jul 30, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Lets bring it to Bud
give him another present on his birthday.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
Selective memory is a blessing in disguise, huh Fred?
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Great win and great homestand
The offense is ALIVE.
The Cubs have always had trouble in Florida, so I’m not going to make any cocky predictions. Its going to be tough.
The trade is ok. I hope they aren’t counting on much from Gorzelany but Grabow should be a pretty decent addition to take Heilmans place.
OT- How is Bobby Wade still in the NFL?
God, he is a complete joke…
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
double edged sord
If you want the draft picks you have to offer him arbitration. Good chance he takes it for about 3 million.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
um make that SWORD not sord
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
We could do worse than a solid LH reliever for that price.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Yes, we paid Scott Eyre more than that
"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
You guys think we're done?
I’m hoping we still acquire a bench hitter.
we can always
add somebody like that before Aug 31
I don't. I would not be surprised to see Hermida switch sides while we are down there...
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 30, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
the cubs have enough OFers hitting near the .250 mark
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Jul 30, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Jeremy Hermida is precisely the kind of guy Jim Hendry has had a lot of success in acquiring in the past -
a former touted prospect who has disappointed the team that brought him to the dance. He’s just 25 and could easily blossom with a change of scenery.
Randy Wells - You continue to astound me.
I was in favor of the Cubs trading for Hermida during the offseason.
Not so sure why they need him now.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
He's a good buy-low guy.
We don’t need him, but if we can get him cheaply…
Plus, I’d imagine that if we get someone like Hermida, it may well signal that Bradley will be dumped in the off-season.
Randy Wells - You continue to astound me.
I'm starting to warm up to Milton...
i never thought I’d see the day!
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 30, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm warming up to Milton as well, especially because
Last 7 days (24 PAs) .353/.500/.706/1.206
Last 14 days (39 PAs) .333/.462/.533/.995
Last 28 days (77 PAs) .281/.455/.456/.911
Baseball reference is awesome!
"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg
That is a very handsome trend
Not that I could expect 1.206 to be sustainable – but a 28 day 0.911 is great to see.
Moves before Deadline
sorry if i am joining the game late…. some crazy ideas
A) is the Bradley-to-Detroit thing totally dead? Then we get Adam Dunn?
B) is there any chance we make a last-minute under-the-radar pitch for Halladay? Say, Geo + Marmol + Hoffpauir
C) don’t we think we want an upgrade from Fonty at 2B? Obviously we should’ve gotten You-Know-Who before he went to Cards. anyone else out there? Roberts?
I dont think the Bradley to Detroit thing ever existed
by cubsonWGN4ever on Jul 30, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
In Stone's and Kaplan's weak little minds.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 30, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Criticize Stone & Kaplan all you want....
… but I did hear there was at least an inquiry about Bradley from Detroit, that likely went no further than one phone call. But it did happen.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
If there was an inquiry, why did Dombrowski flat out deny it?
Hendry denied there was any contact either. I get that you want to defend Stone and Kaplan; and that’s fine. The fact remains that NO ONE besides Stone and Kaplan verified the inquiry. As far as I’m concerned it was made up, and I believe I’m in the majority with this belief.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 30, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe Dombrowski wasn't the one who made the call.
Or, maybe Dombrowski wanted to just kill the whole thing, or make Stone look bad. Who knows?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Let's hope both.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Al, you just said that you heard there was an inquiry FROM Detroit...
Why would Dombrowski give a rat’s bass about making Stone look bad? Face it. Stone and Kaplan MADE IT UP.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 30, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I invite you to write a letter to
CSN’s and WGN’s ombudsmen requesting an explanation on the rumor. It’s their job to investigate possible issues with what they broadcast. If they find Kaplan and Stone guilty, they are fired on the spot and may face lawsuits.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
That's a good idea Chil. Thanks.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 30, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
or make Stone look bad
Well, I like Dombrowski better now then I did five minutes ago.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 30, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Stone actually does a good enough job of making himself look bad without any help from Dombrowski.
I don’t know if it was true but Stone said Dombrowski told him he wouldn’t want a guy like Bradley on his team. I highly doubt all the guys on Detroit’s roster are of unquestioned character. If Dombrowski did say that I’m not a big fan. He could simply say he has no interest without putting the guy down. It’s my assumption Stone threw in the put down on his own when he was told Detroit had no interest.
by Acapulco Taco Pie on Jul 30, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Domrowski would look pretty stupid saying that
Considering that he had Garry “I’ll show you an error” Sheffield.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 31, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Either Dombrowski said it or Stone is embellishing.
Quoth the Twitter account of Former Playgirl Model Steve Stone:
“From the mouth of dave dombrowski the GM of the tigers, i would not have him on my team.”
Dombrowski wouldn’t say that unless he has a problem with Bradley on a personal level. Stone was certainly saying that Bradley is a guy that the Tigers’ organization would not even consider having on their team.
by Acapulco Taco Pie on Aug 2, 2009 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions
General managers never lie...
and never deny events that have taken place, is that what you’re saying?
"In an ocean or in a glass, cool water is such a gas."
by markleonette on Jul 30, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, "B" is eric hanna-like
Teahen would be a FANTASTIC addition to this team.
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 30, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
TEAHEN TEAHEN TEAHEN TEAHEN TEAHEN TEAHEN
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Jul 30, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 30, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Peacock hen
But a valiant attempt. +.321
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jul 30, 2009 11:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I thought
there really was a Teahen bird, but couldn’t find one… Peacock hens are called “peahens”. :D
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 30, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you know how you can tell the Peahens from the Peacocks?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
The Peanuts.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
ba-dump-dump.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 30, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
On the bright side...
…at least these ideas are not in a fanpost.
"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.
Those are some crazy ideas...
A) Bradley to Detroit was made up by Stone and Kraplan.
B) No need, nor room for Halladay, (plus he would cost too much).
C) Fonty isn’t going anywhere, he’ll stick as a platoon player at second.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 30, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
If the organization had given up on him, then yes. I don't think they have though.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 30, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree
and think they’re right not to give up on him. Plus, if they did decide to pull him back to a 300 AB a year player, I’d give Jeff Baker more playing time and give him a try. I like Jeff Baker better than Freddy Sanchez.
Randy Wells - You continue to astound me.
Baker is pretty weak against righties.
by Acapulco Taco Pie on Jul 30, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Could be that's how things will end up.
The Cubs are certainly playing him that way right now.
I’d say the jury’s still out on him, though.
Randy Wells - You continue to astound me.
platoon splits on Baker
vs. RHP in 407 PA .243/ .296/ .397
vs. LHP in 246 PA .279/ .341/ .562
He’s significantly better against lefties and pretty poor verses righties. There is certainly nothing he’s done thus far that makes me want to see him get more at bats against righties.
by Acapulco Taco Pie on Jul 30, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
You're not interested in the power he's shown?
And you know whose career splits those are fairly close to?
Randy Wells - You continue to astound me.
ISWYDT
nice!
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 30, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
So you think Baker's going to win a batting title someday?
Freddy Sanchez (who is no longer an option for the Cubs to pick-up)
vs. RHP .282/ .318/ .393
vs. LHP .352/ .389/ .502
Sanchez’s power isn’t better but his average and OBP are significantly higher. Baker’s power most likely comes at the expense of that lower average. Let’s also add that Baker is 28, not exactly young with a lot of expectation for those numbers to climb significantly. Thanks but I’ll take Sanchez who won a batting title at that age.
by Acapulco Taco Pie on Jul 30, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course not - contact isn's Baker's game.
But all Sanchez has on Baker is AVG. And if the OBP/SLG are the same, the AVG doesn’t make that much difference.
Baker has more power v. RHP, because his SLG is equal to Sanchez’ but coming off of a lower AVG. If you believe, as I do, that Baker might bring up that AVG without giving up power, then he could easily become a clearly superior player to Sanchez over the next three years.
Baker is not young, but his career is still young, without much consistent playing time because of how he was blocked in Colorado.
Randy Wells - You continue to astound me.
Since Baker is 28, no I don't believe he can maintain that power and increase his average significantly. .
You say his career is young but I’m sure you understand that if he had been better he would have been playing at the major league level sooner. If Baker were 24 or 25 I might agree with you.
by Acapulco Taco Pie on Jul 30, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Baker was a 3B
blocked in Colorado by their preference to play Helton, Atkins, Holliday, and Hawpe – 4 pretty good bats (at least until recently in Atkins’ case).
I’m not saying there’s a good chance he progresses. I’m saying there is a chance and giving him some ABs v. RHP isn’t a bad idea, especially if it can turn Fontenot back into 2008 version.
Randy Wells - You continue to astound me.
Agreed...
…on A & C. On ‘B’ though, I say there’s always room for another quality starting arm. He’d definitely cost too much, but there’s room.
We are not going anywhere in the postseason
Without a fully-functioning Carlos Marmol.
"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
marmols fine
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Jul 30, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
did we go anywhere the last few years WITH Marmol
Its the offense that needs to get it done in the postseason.
+ 10000000000 BCB points
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
Agreed that you need more parts to make it work
But I was responding to the post about trading, among others, Marmol for Halladay.
"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
1) Yes, thank gods.
2) I don’t think so
3) I think Baker/Fontenot will do fine.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 30, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Question for Al
Is this the pitcher who you thought we’d all be very happy that we got? Just out of curiosity
Thanks
Was curious…I’m not particularly ecstatic. I’m mostly ambivalent about this deal so far. One of those wait and see things.
by cubsonWGN4ever on Jul 30, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Grabow was part of that deal that I heard about.
So that was, at least, true.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Hey Al, remember when Deep Goat told you about some rumor
and you said that we would be very happy if it actually happened. Is this the trade?
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
whoops nevermind.
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Jul 30, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Cards up 1-0 end of first
Can we have a thread for this . It is hot and boring in New York.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
It's rainy and boring in Chicago
Make it happen.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
cards up 1-0 top 2nd
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
great minds think alike
or deranged pathetic people think alike. Either works for me.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
game tied
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
The Cubs showed they
can have back to back double digit run games. Keep it going guys.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
A very good review and recap, Al.
I think it is despicable how the Pirates act as a farm system for other teams. I am glad I am not a Pirates fan otherwise I would be screaming.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
I couldn't agree more, Dan
It’s once thing to not win, it’s quite another to give up the quantity and caliber of players they have in the last 6 years. This about it: they’d have Rammy at 3B, Jack Wilson at SS, Freddy Sanchez at 2B, Laroche at 1B, Xavier Nady in the OF, I know they had Jason Kendall catching. That team if kept together has a lot of potential. Their front office seems very poorly managed and they have disgraced their fan base, in my humble opinion.
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 30, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
thank you!
i knew i was forgetting some biggies. It’s ridiculous how that franchise has been run, and I honestly do feel terrible for their fans. They have such a beautiful ballpark, too..
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 30, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
It makes me very very angry as a baseball fan.
The disparity in MLB could not be worse when crap like this happens on a regular basis. Teams like the Padres, Royals, and Pirates just seem to have no desire to win. I understand it is a business, and as a owner or general manager that may be priority number one, but with success comes profit. I’d rather see a competitive Pirates team than the piss-poor excuse for a major league team they currently have, and have had, for the last decade and a half.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Salary cap
that is the best solution to this. Look at what it has done with competitive balance in the NFL. But it won’t ever happen in baseball.
"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray
You're right,
although I see this year’s massive sell-off as kind of the ultimate result of bad decisions over the last ten years: the pro talent they had was getting them nowhere, so why not sell it all off and hope for a halfway decent team around 2012? Nothing else was working.
I think the Cards
should buy the Cubs hitters some dinners after shredding the Houston bullpen the way they did.
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
matt holliday barely hits first HR as cardinal
cards fans are going ecstatic for their newfound savior
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
Kinda like they were for DeRosa?
"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray
Pirates Fan
The one Pirates fan in my office is selling his fandom on ebay. He’s giving away his jersey and in return, the winning bidder must provide him with a Jersey of his favorite team.
I know this isn’t completely original but seriously, there’s no Pirates fans around these days.
I would guess that whatever their season ticket base is...
…. it’ll be cut at least in half after this year.
Their smallest crowd of the year is 8,790, so it has to be somewhere less than that. They could have less than 4000 season tickets sold next year.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
such a shame, too
PNC is one of the most beautiful ballparks in the league. If only they could show their fanbase they’re serious about contending.
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 30, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I live not too terribly far from Pittsburgh
and have had the pleasure to see games there a handful of times. It really is a beautiful park.
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 30, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
My favorite new park in baseball
Does not get enough credit.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
PNC Park is outstanding
What’s more, Pittsburgh is a very underrated city. Great place.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 31, 2009 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions
What makes this situation so bad
Is that the Pirates WILL TURN A PROFIT. They keep the low payroll by trading players who might actually get much money and keep the shared MLB revenue. The Brewers did this while Bud was there but of course changed under new ownership. I remember the players union wanting in the last contract to require a fixed portion of the shared revenue on salaries but the owners balked.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
it's called Corporate Viability
Or Coprolitical Vagary
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
Another reason for low ticket sales
Is that Cubs play no weekend games this year.
Not to make it seem like we’re all high and mighty but the fact is we do bring in much larger crowds. No weekend trips this year.
dodgers look pathetic
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
we can. they look like the cubs during june
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Jul 30, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
That deal isn't going to happen.
But it might have been Duke. That’s all I know.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Marlins going to extras
How bout a nice 17 inning game exhausting the bullpen & bench ?
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
i like that
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Jul 30, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
stupid Braves have two on and one out in top of the tenth
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
McCann goes yard for 3 run jack
Good for my fantasy team bad for tiring Marlns out.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
no he'll be with them tomorrow in atlanta
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Jul 30, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
HOLY CRAP PUJOLS LEANED OVER THE TARP AND CAUGHT THE BALL
THIS GUYS THE BEST DEFENDER IVE EVER SEEN
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
and during the allstar game
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Jul 30, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Um...he's arguably the best hitter in baseball right now, has been for awhile too...
But let’s not get carried away here. Haven’t you seen Sandberg…Ozzie…or Mad Dog for that matter? Let’s let him win a few more gold gloves and defend like that for a long time before you say best ever man.
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 31, 2009 1:50 AM CDT up reply actions
im being sarcastic
and making fun of the people who drool over every small play he makes
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Jul 31, 2009 2:29 AM CDT up reply actions
My son believed everything he heard during the home run derby and all star game.
I keep trying to explain that the “current best hitter in baseball” is a brief title and he’ll either fall back or be surpassed by someone soon enough.
He’s still a hell of a ballplayer, but…
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
i hate rick ankiel
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
Thanks Ned
You could not have gotten Sherrill two days earlier and saved Cub fan and your own stupid team some grief.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
todd wellemeyers in the pen
i think the dodgers should be able to score off him
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Jul 30, 2009 10:00 PM CDT reply actions
score early
and hope your bullpen doesnt blow it… again
ugh.. franklins still in
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Jul 30, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Some of those 1970s A's teams would like to have a word...
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jul 30, 2009 11:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
playing games outside the west
and they peaked early.
all that emotion of “weathering the storm w/o manny” has worn off.
Add to that a sizeable lead and some laziness setting in.
Every good team and even a great season has this. I’m not saying it will be that for them, though it sure could. But you can’t expect any team to maintain focus all year, especially with the record they had at the beginning of the Cards series.
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jul 31, 2009 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions
if you mean why can't they win...
since the break they have a 4.03 ERA, which is good for 11th in the NL, and they are 10th in runs scored. And they are 6-7 since then.
You’re killin’ me Smalls!
They realized they have Juan Pierre on their team.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I once amused a crowd in the bleachers by calling him 'Wom'
Pretty sure there are still some of them who think that’s really his name.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jul 30, 2009 11:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
ok wellemeyer in with 2 men in scoring position
i have a good feeling
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Jul 30, 2009 10:22 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah...he was always so clutch for us in these situations.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Basehit 2 runs score.
5-3 dodgers.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2009 10:24 PM CDT reply actions
correction: Thank you Todd Wellemeyer
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
LaRussa hates that guy
more than we hate Aaron Heilman, I think
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 30, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
wellemeyer blows it
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Jul 30, 2009 10:24 PM CDT reply actions
Thanks TODD
I always liked you.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 10:25 PM CDT reply actions
good thing about him being in the bullpen is that he can blow more than 1 game every 5 days
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Jul 30, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Couldn't they have sent a private jet for Sherrill ?
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 10:26 PM CDT reply actions
Thurston, Shoemaker, Rasmus due up for the Cards in the bottom of the 10th.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2009 10:27 PM CDT reply actions
uh oh
colby “i cant grow a mustache but i can get a broken bat basehit” rasmus
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Jul 30, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
actually....Ludwick will bat for Rasmus...Rasmus is out of the game.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
my bad
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
As long as it doesn't get to Pujols....he probably won't.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
dont walk him, man
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Jul 30, 2009 10:30 PM CDT reply actions
Brox-TON walks the leadoff man.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2009 10:31 PM CDT reply actions
Heilmannish
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
i dont have a good feeling about this
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Jul 30, 2009 10:32 PM CDT reply actions
Broxton has an inability to throw strikes
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Let's be positive...
Broxton has an ability to throw balls.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
As long as he can't find the strike zone against us
I’m okay with it
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Shew-maucker flies out to Manny. 1 out.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2009 10:33 PM CDT reply actions
Ludwick was responsible for the blown save (both of them) last night
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Lampwick flies out to Manny. 2 out.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2009 10:35 PM CDT reply actions
manny made that look harder than it needed to be
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Jul 30, 2009 10:36 PM CDT reply actions
He's the best LF'er in the National League.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
But but but!
Sori!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jul 30, 2009 11:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
fonzie being fonzie?
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Jul 30, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Pujols taps out to Broxton.
Dodger WIN!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2009 10:37 PM CDT reply actions
First place!
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Jul 30, 2009 10:38 PM CDT reply actions
We forgot this one in the game threads.

I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 30, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
It means:
Astros lose!!!
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 30, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I thought it meant, "Does my forehead look big in these pants?"
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
so sad
to see the best fans in the world go home sad :)
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
haha
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 30, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
spellcheck stadium is more like it
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Jul 30, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
and 3 up in lose column
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 10:40 PM CDT reply actions
YES! good point
and i’m responding to your email. :)
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 30, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
um LOSS column
but same idea.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
gosh Sox blew another 9th ining lead.
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
White Sox Vs Yankees
is like Mets Vs Cardinals. Best thing is one of them losses.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions

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