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Cubs Minor League Wrap--July 30

First of all, I want to apologize for not having a MLW yesterday. AT&T was supposed to turn on my phone and internet service yesterday, but I wasn't confident that they would and sure enough, there was a problem. After initially telling us that it wouldn't be fixed until tomorrow or possibly even Monday (and even that wasn't until after they asked my wife "Are you sure you're not a moron?" half a dozen times before agreeing to send someone out), a technician actually called back later and said he could come out this afternoon. He fixed the problem in about a half an hour. I've never had anything but great service from AT&T technicians who get sent out.  The people who you have to deal with to actually get one of those technicians to come out, on the other hand. . .  Dealing with any major faceless corporation is a problem, but the AT&T call centers are a special level of hell.

As far as the trade goes today, I think the Pirates got some interesting parts, but little that the Cubs can't afford to lose. I like Kevin Hart the best of all of the players the Pirates got. Hart's a bit of an overachiever who turned his career around by learning the cut fastball. I think he should to continue to "overachieve" for a while, but he's really a #4-5 starter. He was a nice return for Freddy Bynum no matter what.

Despite the Cubs moving Jose Ascanio into the rotation in Iowa, I think that if he has a major league future, it's as a middle reliever. He's had control problems in the majors, as most of you know, although his walk rates haven't been bad in the minors the last couple of seasons. If he can pitch in the majors with the talent he's shown in the minors, he's a decent right-handed middle reliever. There are  a lot of those guys out there and since we got a decent left-handed middle-reliever for him, I'm not going to cry over his loss.

The interesting player we gave up was Josh Harrison. Harrison, the nephew of former major leaguer John Shelby, is a guy who doesn't have a lot of raw tools but has done nothing but hit since the Cubs drafted him in the sixth round out of Cincinnati. At 5'8", he's not likely to ever hit for power and despite his stolen base totals, his speed isn't that impressive, as his SB% indicates. Still, he's hit over .300 in both seasons in the Cub system and while batting average is one of my least favorite stats to evaluate minor league hitters, it's hard to ignore the evidence that Harrison appears to be pretty good at putting wood on the ball. Because of my moving I haven't finished my mid-season prospect lists yet, but I was planning on including Harrison somewhere in the high-teens. If this trade comes back to bite us, it's going to be Harrison that is going to do the biting. However, I think the odds are very much against it. He could end up as a poor-man's Howie Kendrick, and we've all seen how many problems the real Kendrick has had in the major leagues.

Now, on to the games. Everyone who played, won.

Iowa Cubs

The Iowa Cubs dethroned the Omaha Royals, 6-1.

J.R. Mathes had a great start tonight, throwing seven innings and allowing only four hits and  one unearned run. Hart walked one and struck out four.

B.J. Ryan faced six batters tonight. He retired the first five and then walked the sixth one before exiting the game. He had one strikeout. Ryan did have some problems finding the plate, however, as of the 25 pitches he threw, only 11 were for strikes.

Left fielder J.F. Griffin (it's all-initials day for the I-Cubs) was 3 for 4 with a double. He scored once and had one RBI. Right fielder S.O. Taguchi had a triple in a 2 for 5 game. Taguchi had two RBI and scored once.

Star-divide

Tennessee Smokies

The Smokies beat the Mobile BayBears, 5-2.

Starter Casey Coleman improved his record to 10-5 with six solid innings tonight. Coleman allowed only one run on five hits. He walked two and struck out two.

Brian Schlitter got his 14th save tonight, although he did allow a run on two hits in 1.2 innings.

Third baseman Marquez Smith hit his eighth home run tonight, a two-run homer off top D-Backs prospect Jarrod Parker in the third inning.  Smith was 1 for 5. Then first baseman Blake Lalli went deep back-to-back for his fifth home run. Lalli was  2 for 4.

Left fielder Ty Wright was 2 for 3 with a walk. Catcher Welington Castillo scored once in a 2 for 4 effort.

Daytona Cubs

The D-Cubs cracked the Charlotte Stone Crabs, 2-1 in 12 innings.

Starter Jay Jackson picked up where he left off in Daytona, allowing only one unearned run in 5.2 innings tonight. Jackson gave up four hits, walked only one and struck out nine. (Oh, and thanks to the people on the board who announced his demotion. It's been a rough week for me, and it's good to know others can cover for you.)

David Cales tossed three shutout innings of relief. He gave up one hit and walked two. Cales fanned one.

Henry Williamson got the win. He gave up a walk and a single, but no runs. Williamson fanned two.

Right fielder Brandon Guyer was 2 for 6 and drove home the winning run in the bottom of the 12th. Shortstop Starlin Castro went 2 for 5 with a walk.  Third baseman Jake Opitz went 2 for 4 with a walk.

Peoria Cubs

They were winning 3-0 when they were rained out in Dayton. The game will not be made up.

Boise Hawks

The Hawks sunk the Vancouver Canadians, 12-9.

Ryan Sontag retired the final four Canadian hitters without incident for his third save. The rest of the Boise pitchers wish to remain anonymous, although one of them did get the win.

Right fielder Jae-Hoon Ha hit his first home run of the year tonight, a three-run home run as part of a seven-run third inning for the Hawks. Ha also doubled and scored twice in a 2 for 5 game.

First baseman Justin Bour went 3 for 4 with a walk. He scored twice and had two RBI. DH Burundi Davis was a home run short of the cycle in a 3 for 4 game. Davis scored once and had two RBI.

Second baseman Logan Watkins went 2 for 4 with a stolen base an RBI and two runs scored.

AZL Cubs

Did not play.

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thanks josh77

Thanks for these MLW’s! I’ve been reading them for a while and haven’t actually thanked you for them, so I figured it was time.
One question, thrown out to anyone, do you think BJ Ryan has what it takes to still pitch in the majors? It looks like he’s managing to get guys out in the minors but that doesn’t necessarily translate to the majors. Or put another way, would he be a worse option than Heilman (my standard for not being able to get guys out in the majors)?

by sweethomechicago on Jul 31, 2009 1:19 AM CDT reply actions  

nice standard.

is david patton worse now than heilman?

by tim815 on Jul 31, 2009 7:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Couple of notes

Flaherty lost his 15th home run of the year with the rainout. People earlier in the year gave up on Ty Wright and he’s doing what he did last year in Daytona, hitting in July and hopefully August like last year. David Cales numbers in the FSL are starting to borderline sick, his Era has dropped below 1.00, yes he got bounced around in Tenn but this is 1st full season after not pitching the spring before.

by Slamdog on Jul 31, 2009 1:22 AM CDT reply actions  

OT: about your call center experience.....

I spent about 4 years working in a call center. You are right it is hellish to get anyone to actually do anything about anything. But that is what is expected when you work in a call center to do basically.

They were far more concerned about call times ( I was suppose to average 300 seconds per call) and non prods (which is sending a tech out to do inside work and the person not being home) then providing good service.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 31, 2009 1:24 AM CDT reply actions  

i just moved my business office

and it took AT&T over 8 business days to connect our internet, worst experience i’ve ever had

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 31, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good job.

And I just moved, signed up for ATT internet to be started last Saturday. No service come Sunday, I called Monday. Apparently you cannot sign up for internet connectivity on the weekend, and if I had not of called, my service would have “been in internet limbo” forever, the lady told me. Now I won’t get internet until Friday. Explain how that works.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Jul 31, 2009 1:30 AM CDT reply actions  

I worked in repair not orders

I haven’t worked in call center since 2003, but at that point no orders department worked on weekends/ holidays or OT. They had a specific department separate from orders that took care of just missed commitments on orders to start service. That shows the system doesn’t work. But it’s far cheaper that way.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 31, 2009 2:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome back Josh

Is Vitters healthy? I think he’s sat the last three games. Also any idea who might move up to replace Harrison

by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 31, 2009 2:00 AM CDT reply actions  

Good guess

I haven’t seen anyone listed as going, but the D-Cubs have 11 position players right now and one of them is Josh Vitters, who appears to be hurt. Either someone has to go up or someone has to come down from TN

by Josh Timmers on Jul 31, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't find anything on Vitters' health

but I’ve got to believe he’s got something hurting because he’s not playing.

by Josh Timmers on Jul 31, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here ya go, via Twitter:
@WrigleyBound: Josh Vitters has missed the last few games with a minor hand injury, he should be back soon. #Cubs

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by daver on Jul 31, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

About BJ Ryan...

… could his lack of control be partly from a long layoff without pitching?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jul 31, 2009 6:48 AM CDT reply actions  

That's exactly what I was thinking...

More importantly… how was his velocity? That’s why we sent him there.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Jul 31, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gameday

doesn’t have velocities for minor league games. But I can tell you he was missing up and away in the eighth inning and he was low in the ninth inning. It seemed to me he was working on hitting one corner one inning and the other the next, because you normally wouldn’t pitch that methodically to different batters.

by Josh Timmers on Jul 31, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

the trade

should i be upset we lost harrison instead of lake or samson? i’m glad we only lost one middle infielder, and i don’t think ascanio or hart figured heavily in our 2009 plans.

baseball america had hart as our sixth rated prospect? a combination of someone missing the boat, and our system getting much better quickly.

by tim815 on Jul 31, 2009 7:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Harrison

I think it says something about the Cubs minor league status and the players and pitchers they’ve acquired here in the last four years both on the international side and thru the draft. The last two years we’ve acquired major league pitchers because we’ve got pretty good depth. Albeit what baseball rags say ,“not enough high end talent.” Oakland doesnt trade us Harden if we dont have Donaldson and just listening on the radion today in Chicago on ESPN radion they say we dont make the deal without Harrison who doesnt even make Baseball America’s top 30 list. So is there even a baseball publication we can trust to give us thee inside guz on players like Harrison. I can read the stats and can see that Harrison can hit and looks like he can steal bases, I read that he’s got pretty good utility value playing all three outfield positions along with playing a very solid 2nd and 3rd base. The thing I dont get is why arent these so call experts on these players. Its just tough to put any creedence in any of these publications.

by Slamdog on Jul 31, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Harrison

would have been ranked in the top thirty at the end of this season Harrison really turning out to be a guy who is better than we thought he was going to be. On the other hand, he may not be enough better to be a major leaguer.

by Josh Timmers on Jul 31, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hart

was ranked that high because he was major league ready and there wasn’t a lot of competition. I didn’t rank him at all, mainly because I believed that he had too much service time, if not too many innings, to qualify. But had I ranked him, it would have been around #9 or #10.

by Josh Timmers on Jul 31, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wells

is someone everybody missed on. In my case, I’d seen him pitch and thought he was solid, but I figured he wasn’t in the Cubs plans because no one else was talking about him and they left him unprotected in the Rule 5 draft and Toronto actually returned him to us.

Sometimes there’s a bit of “groupthink” on prospects and Wells just got ignored. John Sickels just wrote a piece on how and why he missed on Wells too.

by Josh Timmers on Jul 31, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah well

I think it’s great that Burundi Davis did well today but what about Rwanda Jackson or Mozambique Turner?

(I say these things not as a slight against the man but trying to honor the fact that he has the coolest name I’ve ever seen).

by jeffduarte on Jul 31, 2009 8:19 AM CDT reply actions  

I like

our Wild West combo of sheriff Rebel Ridling and his deputy, Jericho Jones.

by Josh Timmers on Jul 31, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, I'd also like to know whether any further word on this has come out.

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by daver on Jul 31, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rumor is

Disciplinary reasons. But if that’s the type of thing that likely won’t be confirmed for a while.

by Raisin on Jul 31, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

That makes sense

He’s been pitching worse lately and it seems to be related to some things going on in his personal life, at least if you go by his cryptic twitter postings. He may have been taking that into the clubhouse. It also might be an issue of getting him away from a bad personal situation.

He’s a great kid who’s just having a few problems right now and may not be dealing with them in the best ways. He’ll get it straightened out.

by Josh Timmers on Jul 31, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, his tweets - as baffling as many of them have been - lead me to believe...

…that a disciplinary issue is entirely possible.

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by daver on Jul 31, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bruce Miles

confirmed via Oneri Fleita that it was a disciplinary reason.

by Raisin on Jul 31, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chris Carpenter & Brett Jackson Promoted

Carpenter will replace Jay Jackson in Tennessee’s rotation. He makes his debut tonight.

Brett Jackson got promoted from Boise to Peoria after last night’s game. Jackson got on base safely in every game he played with Boise.

by Raisin on Jul 31, 2009 11:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Good for Jackson & Carpenter

Jackson’s different than what we were led to believe. Carpenter just needs to stay healthy.

by Josh Timmers on Jul 31, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jackson's supposed to climb quickly

He’s a collegiate hitter. He basically spent the past few years on a low minor league club. But I do like what I see.

Randy Wells. A product of the Roy Halladay School of Pitching, located in Toronto, Canada. Possible relocation.

by Cub Style on Jul 31, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

we are now drafting

baseball players in the early rounds. not YouTube freaks or high school pitchers with horrible mechanics.

by tim815 on Jul 31, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually thought

he’s spend the summer in Boise and then they’d jump him to Daytona next season like they did with Colvin. But Jackson’s done well.

I’d like to see Lee promoted too, but they’ve got the Korean support system all set up in Boise, so they probably won’t.

by Josh Timmers on Jul 31, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

On Lee

Just leave him at Boise. Only one more month in the season. He’s got Jung and and Ha with him there as you suggested.

by Raisin on Jul 31, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Leave the Boise roster alone

All those guys are so young. Let them play together for a full season. It is a careful balance trying to get these guys used to our culture, plus play baseball.

by Nibbles on Jul 31, 2009 8:24 PM CDT reply actions  

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