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Cubs Place Ryan Dempster On DL

Well, this is a surprise. "Great right toe fracture?" Hmmm. Carlos Zambrano will start tonight instead. From the press release:

The Chicago Cubs today placed right-handed pitcher Ryan Dempster on the 15-day disabled list (retroactive to July 3) with a great right toe fracture. To replace Dempster on the roster, the Cubs recalled right-handed pitcher Kevin Hart from Triple-A Iowa.

Carlos Zambrano, who was scheduled to start tomorrow, will instead make the start tonight against the Atlanta Braves at Wrigley Field. Hart is scheduled to start the series finale for the Cubs tomorrow afternoon.

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HART?

I have a bad feeling about this.

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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 3:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

To start? Uh… I really know like that idea.

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by jkobus on Jul 7, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

awful typing

really *dont know if I like that idea

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by jkobus on Jul 7, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or

I really no like that idea

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by Archie on Jul 7, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's awful english.

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by tucsoncubsfan on Jul 7, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably coulda been Marshall if he hadn't thrown last night...

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by dtpollitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I REALLY hope the Cubs win tonight.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um...when don't you?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 7, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't like surprises

Yikes!!

Get well soon, Demps. Hope Hart can throw strikes…

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Shark?

He’s probably stretched out. And we can recall him b/c of the injury to Demp.

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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They already recalled Hart

and plan to start him in the series finale tomorrow.

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by gridiron_assassin on Jul 7, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that's my fault for

only scanning the Al’s post. 10 lashes for me.

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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems a little harsh.

Bake us all cookies instead and we can call it even?

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by AndrewJStone on Jul 7, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're in

the oven…

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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeff still only has 1 1/2 pitches

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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah,

that’s true.

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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder...

…what he got pissed at?

These usually happen when you kick something.

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by MPH73 on Jul 7, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

kick save

in last start

by tim815 on Jul 7, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

whoa

So which was great, the fracture or the toe?

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by DTJchris on Jul 7, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just heard this on ESPN1000

They said that the ASG doesn’t count, the 15 day DL depends on the number of games missed or something like that. Can anyone confirm this?

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by gridiron_assassin on Jul 7, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's correct.
  1. of games, not days.

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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

*#

not 1. ~ no idea why it showed up like that.

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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

number sign at beginning of line

starts a list.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

Ok, never knew that. Was wondering how I missed the number sign that badly.

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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Umm... are you sure?

I see nothing on the rules that show this.

All that matters is Days Passed

by GoCubbies34 on Jul 7, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alright, maybe I am

mistaking. I was thinking that it was # of games, but now I’m beginning to think that I’m confusing the DL & suspensions.

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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's weird

since it is called the 15 day DL

by LT on Jul 7, 2009 3:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

It is days, not games played

additionally, the team can make it retroactive to the last appearance. Since Demp last pitched in a game on July 2, he would be eligible to come off of the list on July 17th. However, it is a broken toe, he won’t be ready for a while after that…

The injury bug bites again.

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by Archie on Jul 7, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for

clarifying.

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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Days

It’s days not games. Dempster should be eligible to come back on July 18th.

You see, you spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball, and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. ~Jim Bouton, Ball Four, 1970

by Zorb on Jul 7, 2009 3:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Just heard this on The Score...

Marshall for a start?

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on Jul 7, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I mean, Dempster hasn't been the greatest lately, but...

Hart isn’t going to be much better. Why not Marshall? He only pitched an inning yesterday.

Maybe he is out for his daughter?

by GoCubbies34 on Jul 7, 2009 3:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nah, don't think ya'd

get DL’d for something like that.

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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I meant

to say what Allie clarified below. If it is some kind of family issue (i.e. – death, sickness) they’d put you on the berievement list, not the DL.

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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you make up an injury, you go with something less tangible.

Groin strain FTW.

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by AndrewJStone on Jul 7, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the daughter had gotten gravely ill again

they’d do the berievement list.

You don’t invent an injury b/c of 1 bad start.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I haven't been following the situation, so haven't heard if she is still sick... but...
A player may be placed on the MLB Bereavement List if such player is unable to render services because of the serious or severe illness or death of a member of such player’s immediate family (spouse, parent, grandparent, sibling, child or grandchild) or a member of such player’s spouse’s immediate family.

If it’s been the same illness, why hasn’t he already been on it? Or maybe he just wants to spend some time with his daughter… I don’t know. I was just speculating really. He probaly just kicked something.

by GoCubbies34 on Jul 7, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hope he just kicked something.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Jul 7, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great right toe fracture?

How?

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by Itchy on Jul 7, 2009 3:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

My guess?

He kicked something.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can you kick a Gatorade cooler when it's on top of a bench?

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by dtpollitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or dropped

something on his toe.

by sue369 on Jul 7, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Told ya midnight bowling was a bad idea.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

like...

a DUMPSTER?

look at it… LURKING….

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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Somewhere, a Gaudin shivers.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Jul 7, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He

stopped a Jason Kendall liner w/ his foot. My guess is that is how it happened.

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by Slakkr on Jul 7, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup. probably so.

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by Archie on Jul 7, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wouldn't they have known it was broken sooner, though?

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Depending on where its broken

they might’ve thought he’d be able to pitch.

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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like our

arch enemy may be back

Looks like Dempster really gave it the once over too, it looks pretty beat up

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by gwood on Jul 7, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how in the heck

did we pick the same pic?

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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Google

images is a wonderful tool. Plus, this one looked the most beat up (at least of those that didn’t have some legs sticking out of it). So it seemed fitting for this posting.

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by gwood on Jul 7, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soriano's ass

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by Clutche on Jul 7, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

According to the Trib blog

He broke it on Sunday when he went over the railing to celebrate the win over the Brewers.

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/

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by Ross on Jul 7, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Z tonight, Hart tomorrow

… does that mean Hart will be pitching against the Cardinals on Sunday?

by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 3:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Honestly...

I’d rather see my 5-month son pitch in that game. My stomach hurts already.

by CubsGirl on Jul 7, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, wait ...

wouldn’t it be Harden, Lilly, Wells and Z?

by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good

Otherwise my Tums would run out.

by CubsGirl on Jul 7, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get Marshall ready for Sunday!

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Jul 7, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No they moved Z up a day so HE can start Sunday

Wells will start the other game. Z is pitching on 3 plus days rest.

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by Doggie Stalker on Jul 7, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah -- just posted that above

Although, the way Z has been against the Cardinals lately …

by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...,

I don’t remember any great performances from Carlos on 3 days rest. Guess it means he’s due.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Jul 7, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

See, none were great.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Jul 7, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he works better with long rest as we all learned on sept 14

wells4roty

by jesus christos on Jul 7, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

thats just how I want to go into a double header.

Anyone else feeling a little nauseous?

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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, i like it...it isn't a major injury, and it gives another of our AAAA players a chance to shine

before the all-star break….they have done pretty well so far (Fox, Scales, Wells, etc)
what i don’t like is why didn’t they make the move yesterday….maybe trying to throw off the Braves….at least he won’t start against the Cards…

by Zakh on Jul 7, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's his push off leg...

…so it could be an issue for quite a while.

It all depends how bad it is, but broken toes can be very painful for a long time.

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by MPH73 on Jul 7, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not good not good not good...

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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

unless he got run over by a car or as everyone is saying kicked something recently,

the injury has probably been there for a while, and it was decided to give him a break off of the foot…bad choice of words i guess

by Zakh on Jul 7, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

Having had a hairline fracture in a big toe, I can confirm this. Hurts like hell, and took a couple months to heal.

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by Al on Jul 7, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well.

Now, maybe that’s worth discussing.

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by Al on Jul 7, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'd just like to hear more about the injury before we jump to conclusions.

where did he get it…how severe is it? has he had it for a while?

by Zakh on Jul 7, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vitters and the farm

wouldn’t be enough.

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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it would be more than i would pay

Vitters alone…maybe with some garbage is all that i would pay. i am excited about our farm for the first time in a while….may be because of the updates on here

by Zakh on Jul 7, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not saying I'd pay

that price… but that we just don’t have enough.

Halladay is going to be someone’s Hershel Walker. I can’t even imagine how awesome he’d be in the NL.

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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah....he has a lot of miles on that arm....that's why i wouldn't pay too too

much….especially in this market…the closer we get to July 31, the price will come down.

by Zakh on Jul 7, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. Hart.

I really, really hope our bats are hot for that game. I also don’t like the unneeded pressure to win the game tonight because who knows how tomorrow is going to go.

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by Craig in South Bend on Jul 7, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No dude

Hart should be used in relief. Marshall should start Saturday or Sunday.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Jul 7, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

then you lose your only lefty

for the Cards series.

This is the best move. Z gets an extra start (and rest during the break) and Marshall stays in the pen against the Cardinals.

Not a big deal — as long as Z and the Cubs win the Atlanta series tonight.

by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

::crosses fingers::

on the bright side… mobile posting!

by Emelie on Jul 7, 2009 3:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Too much PDA on BCB today. :)

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Jul 7, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow that's too bad for Demp.

Toe injuries hurt like crazy. Hope it heals soon for him. Not crazy for Hart though. I would much rather see Sean pitching.

by sue369 on Jul 7, 2009 3:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Neither he nor Coleman are ready right now

shame really.

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by Archie on Jul 7, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus, Hart is already on the 40-man

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by SackMan on Jul 7, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Baker

was added in his place. I do think we have two slots open.

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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah... we were at 38 with Freel.

But still… those 2 spots can be precious. Gotta conserve them for later.

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by SackMan on Jul 7, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus... they probably don't want to start the options on a younger player like Jackson right now

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by SackMan on Jul 7, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gary Coleman?

If it weren't for the gutter, my mind would be homeless.

by Cubsfanatic on Jul 7, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tootie?

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by digitalbenjamin on Jul 7, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've had a broken toe.

They hurt. And I was just walking on it, not coming off a mound to throw to a major league hitter.

(I turned the wrong way and ran into the bathroom door frame. Curses ensued. Many, many curses.)

by MN exile on Jul 7, 2009 3:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Z on 4 days rest, i don't know ...

Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball

by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 3:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that puts HIM at risk.

It seems like they learned of Demp’s condition at the last minute.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully wont be out more than the minimum

15 days. That being said, this increases our need for either a lefty in the pen or another starter 9even a marginal one is better than Hart in my book) Sean Marshall is doing very well as a lefty specialist, but the cubs could also use him as a spot starter during times like these

by Ryanocm1 on Jul 7, 2009 3:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Has Hart started for the Cubs before?

Who knows? Maybe he and Wells will lead us to the promised land.

by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 3:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh no! Demp out, and Z to pitch on short rest vs the Cardinals. Ugh.

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by SackMan on Jul 7, 2009 3:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Z won't pitch on

short rest vs the Cards. He’s going on short rest tonight. He’ll be on regular rest for Sunday’s game.

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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Z is on short rest today

he will be on his normal rest for the Cardinals

by Ryanocm1 on Jul 7, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh.... oh... gotcha. I don't know how I mixed that up.

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by SackMan on Jul 7, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Z on short rest

I’m thinking he’ll do well. In fact, the longer rest he gets, the worse he is. (I haven’t done research to back that up, by the way, it’s just my impression). I think he’s one of those guys who needs to pitch often to stay sharp. When he’s pitched on extra rest, he has too much strength and has trouble with his location.

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by danimal15 on Jul 7, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs just issued a press release

and changed it so the move is not retroactive to July 3rd and instead starts today (It’s the right big toe btw for anyone still wondering). I’ll try and post the link now.

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by gridiron_assassin on Jul 7, 2009 3:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Link?

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Jul 7, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looking for it

Heard it announced on ESPN1000

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by gridiron_assassin on Jul 7, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why would they do that?

He hasn’t appeared in a game that I know of since the 3rd…

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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's no point

In making it retroactive if you think it’s going to take the full two weeks to heal anyway.

by hmlee on Jul 7, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Theres no point in giving away days

I just don’t understand, I guess.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because the injury may take "4 to 6 weeks" to heal

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Jul 7, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

because

that way he can be back in two weeks, instead of having to go on the DL for another two weeks.

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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

According to (gulp) Steve Stone via Twitter:
I will revise the dempster injury to 4 to 6 weeks. Stay tuned boys and girls.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 3:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Arghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Jul 7, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should add the need for a loogy just multiplied with Marshall

back in the rotation.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Jul 7, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh crap...

Please don’t sign Pedro…Please don’t sign Pedro…Please don’t sign Pedro…

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by Craig in South Bend on Jul 7, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh snap, I had forgotten about that...

Don’t even bring it up in your deepest thoughts. Let’s all forget about it and move on. Let’s wish it away.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Jul 7, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't really understand

why another team’s color man is all over Twitter about another team.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." ~Alvin Dark

by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, and 95% of what he tweets about the Cubs is snarky.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

messy divorce always leaves one snarky

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Jul 7, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who got the kids?

Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis,
vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque,
Nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.

by Zeke on Jul 7, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

Ugh, that infuriates me. I would probably whip my phone against the wall if one of his snarky tweets found me when I was not in a good mood. Something about that guys just does it to me.

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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because he still sports a [crush] for the Cubs

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Jul 7, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Text from Doctor

father is a physician and a huge cubs fan. sent me a text after i texted him with the news and the injury. he confirms 4-6 weeks.

by CeePee17 on Jul 7, 2009 4:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ok

NOW we’re looking for another pitcher. We need a LOOGY so that Marshall can come back out to the rotation. Anyone know anything about LOOGYs who are available?

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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

joe beimal

Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball

by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

beimel*

Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball

by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ERA of 3.31, ERA+ of 131, WHIP of 1.408.

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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What happened to Waddel?

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On DL with non-baseball-related injury.

It’s a mystery.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hm

thats a bummer.

he would’ve been useful.

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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

George Sherril?

"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly

by ambrosiadreams on Jul 7, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

available--contract is up after year.

but rumors are that andy mcphail is asking for a kings ransom

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by MandMexpress12 on Jul 7, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pedro welcome to the Cubs

Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball

by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Again, I repeat:

Please don’t sign Pedro…Please don’t sign Pedro…Please don’t sign Pedro…

www.facebook.com/craighudak

by Craig in South Bend on Jul 7, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball

by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He might have 6 good starts left

Why not us?

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What baggage?

(no really, i don’t pay enough attention to non-cubs baseball to know)

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's another player that would be playing under a microscope

and there’s enough of those on this team as it is. Not to mention the condition of his body.

On the other hand, he’s a pretty no nonsense kind of guy, and he was one of the players for the Red Sox that believed you either won or lost, instead of curses. So maybe that would be helpful.

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by Craig in South Bend on Jul 7, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone who puts a Cub uniform

(unless their undertalented and “scrappy”) gets put under an unfair microscope.

I know he’s older… but if we can get 5 good starts out of him and those starts mean something… I"d go for it.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't think he brings baggage

he seems like a fun teammate to have over the years.

Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball

by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So what will Hendry do

1) Trade for a lefty reliever so Marshall can start
2) Trade for another starter
3) Try to solve the problem without making a move

My guess? Option 1.

by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 4:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He could bring up Fossum and start Marshall.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

is Fossum in Iowa?

I don’t read the minor league updates that thoroughly.

by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, there was a Fanshot a day or two ago.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Casey Fossum?

The man who throws the awesome eephus pitch?

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by MrNFL on Jul 7, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's what I

would prefer. Marshall is a good pitcher, no point in selling the farm.

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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or they could not worry about having a LOOGY...

…and bring up Jeff Stevens.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta have the token lefty

otherwise Lou really will make Marmol’s arm fall off going to his security blanket

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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

hopefully Marshall will be somewhat effective. I wish we had something to offer for Halladay, but dont see it happening. And of course there is the Pedro Martinez rumor from a couple weeks ago.

by ccav23 on Jul 7, 2009 4:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Aaron Heilman ?

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on Jul 7, 2009 4:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

With Guzman back

that might not be a horrible idea. Heilman is frustrating but he has pitched decently this year.

by Ryanocm1 on Jul 7, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Decently for a guy asked to pitched the 7th inning

dont know the numbers but he strikes some people out and has a reasonable era if I recall. He has good stuff as well. Put it this way, he seems better than Hart.

by Ryanocm1 on Jul 7, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hart hasn't really pitched much for the big club this year

And (without looking at the numbers) Heilman walks too many guys.

by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so does hart

thats always been his downfall.

he’s got a great cutter… but he’s doesn’t throw enough strikes.

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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fair point

Boy, Z needs to come up big tonight.

by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's gotten lucky

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you know what his ERA is?

Take a wild guess without looking it up. Because its pretty much the definition of “pitched decently”

by Orval Overall on Jul 7, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good assumption.

And if the criticism of Heilman on this page were to be believed, you’d probably be right, maybe even on the optimistic side.

But its actually 3.76

by Orval Overall on Jul 7, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ERA for relievers is misleading.

Heilman has let a lot of inherited runners score – those runs are charged to the preceding pitcher.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

its not misleading if the question you're using it for is:

How many of his own runners is he likely to let score? That’s what matters in assessing the chances he could do well as a spot starter.

by Orval Overall on Jul 7, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

With a 1.57 WHIP, I'm going to say: Many.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This

If it weren't for the gutter, my mind would be homeless.

by Cubsfanatic on Jul 7, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

his 7 day splits

mind you, that’s only 3.2 innings — has him with a 1.091 WHIP and a 2.45 ERA.

But that’s a really small sample size.

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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually

out of 17 runs scores on Heilman, 16 are earned. It’s the 23 walks in 38.1 innings that’s the real issue.

Doods got an ERA+ of 117.

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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or am I reading it wrong?

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/heilmaa01.shtml

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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

reading that link

(thanks for that btw)… he’s seems to be getting some really awful luck. BABIP of .318

That… seems high.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are many kinds of luck involved with pitchers that statisticians try to quantify.

BABIP is one type; he seems to be maybe a bit unlucky with that (but not that terribly unlucky). Another is strand rate — how many of his base runners are stranded, as opposed to scoring. His strand rate is pretty high, and unless he starts striking out a lot of batters that is probably unusual (or it means other pitchers have been cleaning up his messes). He’s given up a pretty low number of home runs this year — batters’ fly balls off of him are going for home runs at a lower-than-usual rate and infield pop-ups at a higher than usual rate.

Overall, you wouldn’t expect someone with his K, BB, and HR numbers to have such a good ERA, and you wouldn’t expect his HR totals to be that low. You definitely don’t expect someone with a WHIP like his to have a remotely decent ERA (unless that guy is Carlos Marmol).

by aldimond on Jul 7, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, you're reading it right.

But he’s given up almost a hit an inning and has been walking guys all season. I’m just not a big Heilman fan. Then again, I’m not a big Kevin Hart fan either, but I understand Hart was pitching better in Iowa this season. I guess I’d just prefer to leave Heilman in his set role and give Hart the shot, assuming Marshall will take over thereafter.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

assuming Marshall takes over

then I agree. But if he doesn’t…

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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hart still walks too many guys

52.1 IP 20 BB.

Not as high as I expected.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think

it’s three something.

"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg

by gwood on Jul 7, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

3.76

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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but his WHiP

is 1.57

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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and he has been better lately it seems. Id give him a shot over Hart.

by Ryanocm1 on Jul 7, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess that's a possibility.

Not a very exciting one.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Aaron Heilman Sucks Fanclub disapproves of this message

but understands the logic behind it. He was decent in ST as a starter.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Jul 7, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was he?

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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very much so, yes.

As much as it pains me to admit it. Look it up.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Jul 7, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?

This morning I had tickets to a Zambrano game, and now I have tickets to a Hart game?
 …ugh, I want a refund. Now I gotta find a new sig.

Anyway – best wishes on Dempster healing quickly, and on a ‘mirac’ from Hart. Go Cubs

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by redivycubs on Jul 7, 2009 4:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You know

there are, like, a whole team of guys that plays, and not just Z, right?

www.facebook.com/craighudak

by Craig in South Bend on Jul 7, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

At least I should get to see Ramirez play this time around.

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by redivycubs on Jul 7, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I sympathize

But I’m going tonight, and I’d rather see Z than Dempster. So I got the best of things.

"They found a delivery in my flaw." - Dan Quisenberry

by danimal15 on Jul 7, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW

the press release is wrong. His DL time isn’t retroactive to July 4.

Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball

by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

I posted that above as well

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on Jul 7, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

retroactively

natch

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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

huh?

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on Jul 7, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you posted the retroactive change

retroactively. :D

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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha ok I gotcha

Sorry I feel like I’m in slow motion today, I’m about to fall asleep at work. This game needs to hurry up and start already!

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by gridiron_assassin on Jul 7, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

whoops sorry i didn't see that.

Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball

by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can Soriano pitch?

sarcasm

"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella

by Clutche on Jul 7, 2009 4:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He's got an arm...

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks

like he’d have a mean two-seam fastball

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by gwood on Jul 7, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soriano has a good arm....why not try him out?

at least get something out of all those millions

by Zakh on Jul 7, 2009 4:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

would we bat him 9th?

"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella

by Clutche on Jul 7, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

clearly, this isn't as big a deal as the Ramirez injury

… but it’s extremely frustrating that we lose one of our top starters the day after the team finally got healthy.

by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 4:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The story of our season.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

still ...

I think we can get through this.

by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

The Cubs should skim again, going 3-3, and staying at the mean for the season.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Jul 7, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It better be a baseball related injury

If not, they better start giving out steel toed boots for guys to wear when their not on the field!! We had the the whole team together for one damn day!

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Jul 7, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Score is reporting it's non-baseball related

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Jul 7, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he caused this himself by kicking something

Then perhaps he shouldn’t be paid for his time off.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Jul 7, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jumping to conclusions

It could be a lot of things. Stubbing his toe last night to go to the bathroom for instance.

by jerry morales rules on Jul 7, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is why I said "kicking something"

Accidents happen, but if this is the result of stupidity or carelessness, I don’t want him around.

Athletes are paid for what their bodies can do. When they abuse those bodies, they are useless.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Jul 7, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh FFS Worf

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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Demp's a pretty smart guy.

It was probably an accident.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree.

I stubbed my toe yesterday playing hide-and-seek with my son; I’m pretty sure it’s broken. Today I don’t want myself around. I’m totally useless.

This line from a movie, television show or other piece of popular culture pretty much sums up my entire personality.

by ScottieG33 on Jul 7, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do that nightly and have never fractured a toe

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by Clutche on Jul 7, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

obviously we need more Cubs pitchers to take dumps like you.

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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Drew.......

you are so clever I can’t stand it

"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella

by Clutche on Jul 7, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

besides Drew I'm not go to the bathroom........

when I can’t sleep I get up and read your insightful posts

"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella

by Clutche on Jul 7, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clutche

Babbling Curse

I’d say worse, but I’ll be told to be nice.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Jul 7, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Dan..........

you’re a kind and gentle man respected by all

"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella

by Clutche on Jul 7, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or some that don't throw tantrums

"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella

by Clutche on Jul 7, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude

Seriously. 3 comments? Trying to catch up?

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

GOD NO.....

if there is one person I don’t want to emulate that would be Drew

"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella

by Clutche on Jul 7, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

then make your snark and MOVE ON

you’re killing my z mojo!

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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Three posts to make a joke

= NOT FUNNY!

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by Worf on Jul 7, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I knew it one too many as soon as I hit the post button...damn

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by Clutche on Jul 7, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That you know of

Ever gone out the next day and tried to throw a 94 mph sinker?

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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"It's a jump to conclusions mat!"

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by dtpollitt on Jul 7, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

JUMP!

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by dtpollitt on Jul 7, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This idea

it is horrible.

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by Craig in South Bend on Jul 7, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so.

That happened a few days ago – why would this just be coming out now?

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're right. WGN reported that it was non-baseball related injury

actually i heard it from WSCR, who got it from WGN.

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by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha

This would truly be a soap opera season if we signed Pedro Martinez.

by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOOGYs are cheap

Look how long it took to get Ohman and Beimel signed this winter. I think the best course of action is to try and get a cheap LOOGY from someone to bump Marshall to the rotation. We are only talking about 5-8 starts missing from Dempster here. How about John Grabow from Pit?

by CeePee17 on Jul 7, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

John Grabow, George Sherrill, Ron Mahay, Doug Davis,

possible names?

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by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Isn't Davis a starter?

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

is that sarcasm? i honestly don't know

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by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

3.15 ERA, 144 ERZ+

has he simply been unlucky to go 3-8?

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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

D-back offense is terrible.

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by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

looks pretty unlucky to m

at least to be 3-8. Thats a lot of losses with a low ERA

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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just like Randy Wells! :P

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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it almost makes sense

maybe.

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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I see.

Well, Davis did pitch well against the Cubs this season.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No way your're getting Sherrill, he's their closer now.

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Jul 7, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

13.5 GB

That’s why he’s available.

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by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yahbut

The O’s could be contenders next season with Markakis and the new kid they brought up and their CF… Nevermind, the AL East should just be those two a-hole teams. Move the rest of them to the other divisions…

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Jul 7, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um no

but making up the difference in talent between the O’s and the Jays, Yanks, BoSox, and Rays…. thats a lot.

If they can sell Sherrill and get something… they might do it.

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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As someone who sees the O's in person a lot...

I agree…the talent gap, particularly on the pitching side, between them and the other four teams in the division is more like a gulf.

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by Chris Dobbertean on Jul 7, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm not saying that this is exactly what's gonna happen but

from mlb.com
George Sherrill, Orioles
Why he’s available: Sherrill has drawn solid inquiries from around the league for the last two years.

Will he go? The southpaw is perhaps the most likely Oriole to get traded, thanks to his performance and his salary.

Where might he go? The Dodgers and White Sox are rumored to have interest in adding relief help.

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by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK cool

So, what do the Dodgers and Sux have that the Cubs don’t? Is this doable? Sherrill would be my favorite bullpen addition.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Jul 7, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was just reported that the reason

the DL stint isn’t retroactive is because they had to recall Hart who was jusst sent down (or something along those lines). Probably also because it’ll take the full two weeks at least to heal (if not more).

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by gridiron_assassin on Jul 7, 2009 4:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jason Marquis anyone

This really makes Hendry look bad. He just had to dump the Marquis $$………for what? He agrees to pay half of his $$……..takes on 3 M in Vizcaino and releases him. What was saved in that transaction? Say what you want about Marquis but he took the ball every 5th day and kept them in games

by plenz on Jul 7, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I posted this in another thread

Given Wells’ emergence, I don’t think trading Marquis looks that bad. What looks TERRIBLE is that we got nothing for Marquis. Hendry’s offseason is looking really bad.

by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't care that Marquis left

It’s just that the reasoning behind it ($$$$)……..didn’t make sense…….they saved hardly anything and got nada to show for it

by plenz on Jul 7, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Horrible trade... because we got absolutely nothing of value for him othet than some chash releif.

Horrible.

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Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Jul 7, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

didn’t it COST money to unload Marquis?

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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

once we DFA's Vizcanio

yes.

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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't how much of marquis' contract we agreed to pay

Then, we dumped Vizcaino… and ate his entire contract when we DFA’d him. Horrible, horrible trade. The worst deal Hendry’s made in my opinion.

You trade a serviceable/quality starting pitcher for… well… nothing.

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Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Jul 7, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

all all that just to get MB, basically

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by ambrosiadreams on Jul 7, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A complete waste.

regardless of Marquis current outstanding performance, he had much more value in the off-season than what we got for him.

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by SackMan on Jul 7, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No thanks

Marquis is a notoriously fast starter, but talk to me again in September and see if you still want him back. There’s a reason that he’s been left off of post season rosters in both Chicago and St Louis.

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by gridiron_assassin on Jul 7, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Muck Farquis

I’m sick of that name. I’m sick of the love for him.

He was a 5th starter. Nothing more, nothing less. He couldn’t make 17 playoff rosters in a row.

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by Worf on Jul 7, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not Love for him on my part

it’s just the way it went down………why pay half his salary AND take another bad contract on? Actually, Marquis contract wasn’t that bad given what’s out there……..we have many other worse contracts than his

by plenz on Jul 7, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please tell me Dempster's injury is not the subject of the sentence beginning "This..."

Because if it is, then “this,” as in your comment, is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever read.

Marquis is making the Cubs regret the decision to trade him, no doubt. That Dempster hurt his toe and will miss some time makes the decision no better or worse.

by Orval Overall on Jul 7, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What exactly caused this?

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by Worf on Jul 7, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs