Cubs Place Ryan Dempster On DL
by Al on Jul 7, 2009 3:34 PM CDT
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Well, this is a surprise. "Great right toe fracture?" Hmmm. Carlos Zambrano will start tonight instead. From the press release:
The Chicago Cubs today placed right-handed pitcher Ryan Dempster on the 15-day disabled list (retroactive to July 3) with a great right toe fracture. To replace Dempster on the roster, the Cubs recalled right-handed pitcher Kevin Hart from Triple-A Iowa.
Carlos Zambrano, who was scheduled to start tomorrow, will instead make the start tonight against the Atlanta Braves at Wrigley Field. Hart is scheduled to start the series finale for the Cubs tomorrow afternoon.
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HART?
I have a bad feeling about this.
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 3:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
To start? Uh… I really know like that idea.
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by jkobus on Jul 7, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
awful typing
really *dont know if I like that idea
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by jkobus on Jul 7, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or
I really no like that idea
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by Archie on Jul 7, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's awful english.
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by tucsoncubsfan on Jul 7, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably coulda been Marshall if he hadn't thrown last night...
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by dtpollitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I REALLY hope the Cubs win tonight.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um...when don't you?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 7, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like surprises
Yikes!!
Get well soon, Demps. Hope Hart can throw strikes…
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Shark?
He’s probably stretched out. And we can recall him b/c of the injury to Demp.
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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They already recalled Hart
and plan to start him in the series finale tomorrow.
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by gridiron_assassin on Jul 7, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that's my fault for
only scanning the Al’s post. 10 lashes for me.
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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems a little harsh.
Bake us all cookies instead and we can call it even?
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by AndrewJStone on Jul 7, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're in
the oven…
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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff still only has 1 1/2 pitches
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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
that’s true.
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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder...
…what he got pissed at?
These usually happen when you kick something.
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by MPH73 on Jul 7, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
whoa
So which was great, the fracture or the toe?
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by DTJchris on Jul 7, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just heard this on ESPN1000
They said that the ASG doesn’t count, the 15 day DL depends on the number of games missed or something like that. Can anyone confirm this?
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by gridiron_assassin on Jul 7, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's correct.
- of games, not days.
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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*#
not 1. ~ no idea why it showed up like that.
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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
number sign at beginning of line
starts a list.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Ok, never knew that. Was wondering how I missed the number sign that badly.
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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm... are you sure?
I see nothing on the rules that show this.
All that matters is Days Passed
by GoCubbies34 on Jul 7, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, maybe I am
mistaking. I was thinking that it was # of games, but now I’m beginning to think that I’m confusing the DL & suspensions.
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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's weird
since it is called the 15 day DL
by LT on Jul 7, 2009 3:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
It is days, not games played
additionally, the team can make it retroactive to the last appearance. Since Demp last pitched in a game on July 2, he would be eligible to come off of the list on July 17th. However, it is a broken toe, he won’t be ready for a while after that…
The injury bug bites again.
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by Archie on Jul 7, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for
clarifying.
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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Days
It’s days not games. Dempster should be eligible to come back on July 18th.
You see, you spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball, and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. ~Jim Bouton, Ball Four, 1970
by Zorb on Jul 7, 2009 3:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Just heard this on The Score...
Marshall for a start?
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 7, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I mean, Dempster hasn't been the greatest lately, but...
Hart isn’t going to be much better. Why not Marshall? He only pitched an inning yesterday.
Maybe he is out for his daughter?
by GoCubbies34 on Jul 7, 2009 3:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nah, don't think ya'd
get DL’d for something like that.
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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is why you make something up...
by GoCubbies34 on Jul 7, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I meant
to say what Allie clarified below. If it is some kind of family issue (i.e. – death, sickness) they’d put you on the berievement list, not the DL.
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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you make up an injury, you go with something less tangible.
Groin strain FTW.
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by AndrewJStone on Jul 7, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the daughter had gotten gravely ill again
they’d do the berievement list.
You don’t invent an injury b/c of 1 bad start.
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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't been following the situation, so haven't heard if she is still sick... but...
A player may be placed on the MLB Bereavement List if such player is unable to render services because of the serious or severe illness or death of a member of such player’s immediate family (spouse, parent, grandparent, sibling, child or grandchild) or a member of such player’s spouse’s immediate family.
If it’s been the same illness, why hasn’t he already been on it? Or maybe he just wants to spend some time with his daughter… I don’t know. I was just speculating really. He probaly just kicked something.
by GoCubbies34 on Jul 7, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hope he just kicked something.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jul 7, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great right toe fracture?
How?
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by Itchy on Jul 7, 2009 3:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My guess?
He kicked something.
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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you kick a Gatorade cooler when it's on top of a bench?
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by dtpollitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Told ya midnight bowling was a bad idea.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
like...
a DUMPSTER?
look at it… LURKING….
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Somewhere, a Gaudin shivers.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jul 7, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He
stopped a Jason Kendall liner w/ his foot. My guess is that is how it happened.
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by Slakkr on Jul 7, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup. probably so.
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by Archie on Jul 7, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't they have known it was broken sooner, though?
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depending on where its broken
they might’ve thought he’d be able to pitch.
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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like our
arch enemy may be back
Looks like Dempster really gave it the once over too, it looks pretty beat up
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by gwood on Jul 7, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how in the heck
did we pick the same pic?
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soriano's ass
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by Clutche on Jul 7, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to the Trib blog
He broke it on Sunday when he went over the railing to celebrate the win over the Brewers.
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/
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by Ross on Jul 7, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Z tonight, Hart tomorrow
… does that mean Hart will be pitching against the Cardinals on Sunday?
by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 3:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Honestly...
I’d rather see my 5-month son pitch in that game. My stomach hurts already.
by CubsGirl on Jul 7, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, wait ...
wouldn’t it be Harden, Lilly, Wells and Z?
by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get Marshall ready for Sunday!
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by Itchy on Jul 7, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No they moved Z up a day so HE can start Sunday
Wells will start the other game. Z is pitching on 3 plus days rest.
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by Doggie Stalker on Jul 7, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah -- just posted that above
Although, the way Z has been against the Cardinals lately …
by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...,
I don’t remember any great performances from Carlos on 3 days rest. Guess it means he’s due.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jul 7, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
has he had ANY performances on three days rest?
I can’t think of any.
by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, none were great.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jul 7, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he works better with long rest as we all learned on sept 14
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 7, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
thats just how I want to go into a double header.
Anyone else feeling a little nauseous?
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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Things were going too well the last week.
We need more DRAMA!
by Mapmaker on Jul 7, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, i like it...it isn't a major injury, and it gives another of our AAAA players a chance to shine
before the all-star break….they have done pretty well so far (Fox, Scales, Wells, etc)
what i don’t like is why didn’t they make the move yesterday….maybe trying to throw off the Braves….at least he won’t start against the Cards…
by Zakh on Jul 7, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's his push off leg...
…so it could be an issue for quite a while.
It all depends how bad it is, but broken toes can be very painful for a long time.
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by MPH73 on Jul 7, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not good not good not good...
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
unless he got run over by a car or as everyone is saying kicked something recently,
the injury has probably been there for a while, and it was decided to give him a break off of the foot…bad choice of words i guess
by Zakh on Jul 7, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
Having had a hairline fracture in a big toe, I can confirm this. Hurts like hell, and took a couple months to heal.
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by Al on Jul 7, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well.
Now, maybe that’s worth discussing.
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by Al on Jul 7, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd just like to hear more about the injury before we jump to conclusions.
where did he get it…how severe is it? has he had it for a while?
by Zakh on Jul 7, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vitters and the farm
wouldn’t be enough.
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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it would be more than i would pay
Vitters alone…maybe with some garbage is all that i would pay. i am excited about our farm for the first time in a while….may be because of the updates on here
by Zakh on Jul 7, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not saying I'd pay
that price… but that we just don’t have enough.
Halladay is going to be someone’s Hershel Walker. I can’t even imagine how awesome he’d be in the NL.
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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah....he has a lot of miles on that arm....that's why i wouldn't pay too too
much….especially in this market…the closer we get to July 31, the price will come down.
by Zakh on Jul 7, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Hart.
I really, really hope our bats are hot for that game. I also don’t like the unneeded pressure to win the game tonight because who knows how tomorrow is going to go.
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by Craig in South Bend on Jul 7, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No dude
Hart should be used in relief. Marshall should start Saturday or Sunday.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jul 7, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
then you lose your only lefty
for the Cards series.
This is the best move. Z gets an extra start (and rest during the break) and Marshall stays in the pen against the Cardinals.
Not a big deal — as long as Z and the Cubs win the Atlanta series tonight.
by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
::crosses fingers::
on the bright side… mobile posting!
by Emelie on Jul 7, 2009 3:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Too much PDA on BCB today. :)
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jul 7, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow that's too bad for Demp.
Toe injuries hurt like crazy. Hope it heals soon for him. Not crazy for Hart though. I would much rather see Sean pitching.
by sue369 on Jul 7, 2009 3:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Neither he nor Coleman are ready right now
shame really.
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by Archie on Jul 7, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, Hart is already on the 40-man
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by SackMan on Jul 7, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't we have like 2 slots open....at least?
Ryan F was just removed.
by Zakh on Jul 7, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baker
was added in his place. I do think we have two slots open.
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah... we were at 38 with Freel.
But still… those 2 spots can be precious. Gotta conserve them for later.
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by SackMan on Jul 7, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus... they probably don't want to start the options on a younger player like Jackson right now
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by SackMan on Jul 7, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm sure if we make any moves at the deadline, some of our AAAA players will be going
so it would free up slots. or we can finally dump Miles!
by Zakh on Jul 7, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gary Coleman?
If it weren't for the gutter, my mind would be homeless.
by Cubsfanatic on Jul 7, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tootie?
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by digitalbenjamin on Jul 7, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've had a broken toe.
They hurt. And I was just walking on it, not coming off a mound to throw to a major league hitter.
(I turned the wrong way and ran into the bathroom door frame. Curses ensued. Many, many curses.)
by MN exile on Jul 7, 2009 3:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Z on 4 days rest, i don't know ...
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 3:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that puts HIM at risk.
It seems like they learned of Demp’s condition at the last minute.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully wont be out more than the minimum
15 days. That being said, this increases our need for either a lefty in the pen or another starter 9even a marginal one is better than Hart in my book) Sean Marshall is doing very well as a lefty specialist, but the cubs could also use him as a spot starter during times like these
by Ryanocm1 on Jul 7, 2009 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Has Hart started for the Cubs before?
Who knows? Maybe he and Wells will lead us to the promised land.
by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh no! Demp out, and Z to pitch on short rest vs the Cardinals. Ugh.
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by SackMan on Jul 7, 2009 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Z won't pitch on
short rest vs the Cards. He’s going on short rest tonight. He’ll be on regular rest for Sunday’s game.
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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Z is on short rest today
he will be on his normal rest for the Cardinals
by Ryanocm1 on Jul 7, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh.... oh... gotcha. I don't know how I mixed that up.
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by SackMan on Jul 7, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Z on short rest
I’m thinking he’ll do well. In fact, the longer rest he gets, the worse he is. (I haven’t done research to back that up, by the way, it’s just my impression). I think he’s one of those guys who needs to pitch often to stay sharp. When he’s pitched on extra rest, he has too much strength and has trouble with his location.
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by danimal15 on Jul 7, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs just issued a press release
and changed it so the move is not retroactive to July 3rd and instead starts today (It’s the right big toe btw for anyone still wondering). I’ll try and post the link now.
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by gridiron_assassin on Jul 7, 2009 3:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Link?
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jul 7, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looking for it
Heard it announced on ESPN1000
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by gridiron_assassin on Jul 7, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would they do that?
He hasn’t appeared in a game that I know of since the 3rd…
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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's no point
In making it retroactive if you think it’s going to take the full two weeks to heal anyway.
by hmlee on Jul 7, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theres no point in giving away days
I just don’t understand, I guess.
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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because the injury may take "4 to 6 weeks" to heal
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jul 7, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because
that way he can be back in two weeks, instead of having to go on the DL for another two weeks.
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to (gulp) Steve Stone via Twitter:
I will revise the dempster injury to 4 to 6 weeks. Stay tuned boys and girls.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 3:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Arghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jul 7, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should add the need for a loogy just multiplied with Marshall
back in the rotation.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jul 7, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh crap...
Please don’t sign Pedro…Please don’t sign Pedro…Please don’t sign Pedro…
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by Craig in South Bend on Jul 7, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh snap, I had forgotten about that...
Don’t even bring it up in your deepest thoughts. Let’s all forget about it and move on. Let’s wish it away.
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by chilango2 on Jul 7, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't really understand
why another team’s color man is all over Twitter about another team.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." ~Alvin Dark
by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and 95% of what he tweets about the Cubs is snarky.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah stoney needs to stop bashing the cubs everytime he can
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
messy divorce always leaves one snarky
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Jul 7, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who got the kids?
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis,
vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque,
Nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
by Zeke on Jul 7, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Ugh, that infuriates me. I would probably whip my phone against the wall if one of his snarky tweets found me when I was not in a good mood. Something about that guys just does it to me.
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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jul 7, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he still sports a [crush] for the Cubs
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jul 7, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Text from Doctor
father is a physician and a huge cubs fan. sent me a text after i texted him with the news and the injury. he confirms 4-6 weeks.
by CeePee17 on Jul 7, 2009 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ok
NOW we’re looking for another pitcher. We need a LOOGY so that Marshall can come back out to the rotation. Anyone know anything about LOOGYs who are available?
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
joe beimal
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
beimel*
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ERA of 3.31, ERA+ of 131, WHIP of 1.408.
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What happened to Waddel?
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On DL with non-baseball-related injury.
It’s a mystery.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
George Sherril?
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 7, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
available--contract is up after year.
but rumors are that andy mcphail is asking for a kings ransom
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by MandMexpress12 on Jul 7, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pedro welcome to the Cubs
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Again, I repeat:
Please don’t sign Pedro…Please don’t sign Pedro…Please don’t sign Pedro…
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by Craig in South Bend on Jul 7, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
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by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He might have 6 good starts left
Why not us?
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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if I want the baggage though...
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by Craig in South Bend on Jul 7, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What baggage?
(no really, i don’t pay enough attention to non-cubs baseball to know)
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's another player that would be playing under a microscope
and there’s enough of those on this team as it is. Not to mention the condition of his body.
On the other hand, he’s a pretty no nonsense kind of guy, and he was one of the players for the Red Sox that believed you either won or lost, instead of curses. So maybe that would be helpful.
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by Craig in South Bend on Jul 7, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone who puts a Cub uniform
(unless their undertalented and “scrappy”) gets put under an unfair microscope.
I know he’s older… but if we can get 5 good starts out of him and those starts mean something… I"d go for it.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't think he brings baggage
he seems like a fun teammate to have over the years.
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what will Hendry do
1) Trade for a lefty reliever so Marshall can start
2) Trade for another starter
3) Try to solve the problem without making a move
My guess? Option 1.
by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 4:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He could bring up Fossum and start Marshall.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is Fossum in Iowa?
I don’t read the minor league updates that thoroughly.
by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, there was a Fanshot a day or two ago.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Casey Fossum?
The man who throws the awesome eephus pitch?
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by MrNFL on Jul 7, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's what I
would prefer. Marshall is a good pitcher, no point in selling the farm.
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or they could not worry about having a LOOGY...
…and bring up Jeff Stevens.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta have the token lefty
otherwise Lou really will make Marmol’s arm fall off going to his security blanket
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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
hopefully Marshall will be somewhat effective. I wish we had something to offer for Halladay, but dont see it happening. And of course there is the Pedro Martinez rumor from a couple weeks ago.
by ccav23 on Jul 7, 2009 4:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Aaron Heilman ?
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 7, 2009 4:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
With Guzman back
that might not be a horrible idea. Heilman is frustrating but he has pitched decently this year.
by Ryanocm1 on Jul 7, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Decently for a guy asked to pitched the 7th inning
dont know the numbers but he strikes some people out and has a reasonable era if I recall. He has good stuff as well. Put it this way, he seems better than Hart.
by Ryanocm1 on Jul 7, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hart hasn't really pitched much for the big club this year
And (without looking at the numbers) Heilman walks too many guys.
by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so does hart
thats always been his downfall.
he’s got a great cutter… but he’s doesn’t throw enough strikes.
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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair point
Boy, Z needs to come up big tonight.
by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's gotten lucky
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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you know what his ERA is?
Take a wild guess without looking it up. Because its pretty much the definition of “pitched decently”
by Orval Overall on Jul 7, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would assume it is somewhere between 4 and 4.5
by Ryanocm1 on Jul 7, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good assumption.
And if the criticism of Heilman on this page were to be believed, you’d probably be right, maybe even on the optimistic side.
But its actually 3.76
by Orval Overall on Jul 7, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ERA for relievers is misleading.
Heilman has let a lot of inherited runners score – those runs are charged to the preceding pitcher.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its not misleading if the question you're using it for is:
How many of his own runners is he likely to let score? That’s what matters in assessing the chances he could do well as a spot starter.
by Orval Overall on Jul 7, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With a 1.57 WHIP, I'm going to say: Many.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This
If it weren't for the gutter, my mind would be homeless.
by Cubsfanatic on Jul 7, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
his 7 day splits
mind you, that’s only 3.2 innings — has him with a 1.091 WHIP and a 2.45 ERA.
But that’s a really small sample size.
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually
out of 17 runs scores on Heilman, 16 are earned. It’s the 23 walks in 38.1 innings that’s the real issue.
Doods got an ERA+ of 117.
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or am I reading it wrong?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/heilmaa01.shtml
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
reading that link
(thanks for that btw)… he’s seems to be getting some really awful luck. BABIP of .318
That… seems high.
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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought you just said "he's gotten lucky"
by Orval Overall on Jul 7, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are many kinds of luck involved with pitchers that statisticians try to quantify.
BABIP is one type; he seems to be maybe a bit unlucky with that (but not that terribly unlucky). Another is strand rate — how many of his base runners are stranded, as opposed to scoring. His strand rate is pretty high, and unless he starts striking out a lot of batters that is probably unusual (or it means other pitchers have been cleaning up his messes). He’s given up a pretty low number of home runs this year — batters’ fly balls off of him are going for home runs at a lower-than-usual rate and infield pop-ups at a higher than usual rate.
Overall, you wouldn’t expect someone with his K, BB, and HR numbers to have such a good ERA, and you wouldn’t expect his HR totals to be that low. You definitely don’t expect someone with a WHIP like his to have a remotely decent ERA (unless that guy is Carlos Marmol).
by aldimond on Jul 7, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, you're reading it right.
But he’s given up almost a hit an inning and has been walking guys all season. I’m just not a big Heilman fan. Then again, I’m not a big Kevin Hart fan either, but I understand Hart was pitching better in Iowa this season. I guess I’d just prefer to leave Heilman in his set role and give Hart the shot, assuming Marshall will take over thereafter.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
assuming Marshall takes over
then I agree. But if he doesn’t…
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hart still walks too many guys
52.1 IP 20 BB.
Not as high as I expected.
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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
it’s three something.
"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg
by gwood on Jul 7, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3.76
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but his WHiP
is 1.57
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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and he has been better lately it seems. Id give him a shot over Hart.
by Ryanocm1 on Jul 7, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess that's a possibility.
Not a very exciting one.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Aaron Heilman Sucks Fanclub disapproves of this message
but understands the logic behind it. He was decent in ST as a starter.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jul 7, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was he?
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very much so, yes.
As much as it pains me to admit it. Look it up.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jul 7, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
This morning I had tickets to a Zambrano game, and now I have tickets to a Hart game?
…ugh, I want a refund. Now I gotta find a new sig.
Anyway – best wishes on Dempster healing quickly, and on a ‘mirac’ from Hart. Go Cubs
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by redivycubs on Jul 7, 2009 4:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You know
there are, like, a whole team of guys that plays, and not just Z, right?
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by Craig in South Bend on Jul 7, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
At least I should get to see Ramirez play this time around.
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by redivycubs on Jul 7, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sympathize
But I’m going tonight, and I’d rather see Z than Dempster. So I got the best of things.
"They found a delivery in my flaw." - Dan Quisenberry
by danimal15 on Jul 7, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW
the press release is wrong. His DL time isn’t retroactive to July 4.
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
I posted that above as well
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by gridiron_assassin on Jul 7, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
retroactively
natch
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
huh?
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Jul 7, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you posted the retroactive change
retroactively. :D
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha ok I gotcha
Sorry I feel like I’m in slow motion today, I’m about to fall asleep at work. This game needs to hurry up and start already!
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by gridiron_assassin on Jul 7, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoops sorry i didn't see that.
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can Soriano pitch?
sarcasm
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
by Clutche on Jul 7, 2009 4:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He's got an arm...
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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soriano has a good arm....why not try him out?
at least get something out of all those millions
by Zakh on Jul 7, 2009 4:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
would we bat him 9th?
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
by Clutche on Jul 7, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It'd be just like having a second leadoff hitter!
Oh wait…
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by Chris Dobbertean on Jul 7, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
clearly, this isn't as big a deal as the Ramirez injury
… but it’s extremely frustrating that we lose one of our top starters the day after the team finally got healthy.
by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 4:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The story of our season.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It better be a baseball related injury
If not, they better start giving out steel toed boots for guys to wear when their not on the field!! We had the the whole team together for one damn day!
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
by Itchy on Jul 7, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Score is reporting it's non-baseball related
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Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
by SackMan on Jul 7, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he caused this himself by kicking something
Then perhaps he shouldn’t be paid for his time off.
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by Worf on Jul 7, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jumping to conclusions
It could be a lot of things. Stubbing his toe last night to go to the bathroom for instance.
by jerry morales rules on Jul 7, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is why I said "kicking something"
Accidents happen, but if this is the result of stupidity or carelessness, I don’t want him around.
Athletes are paid for what their bodies can do. When they abuse those bodies, they are useless.
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by Worf on Jul 7, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh FFS Worf
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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Demp's a pretty smart guy.
It was probably an accident.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
I stubbed my toe yesterday playing hide-and-seek with my son; I’m pretty sure it’s broken. Today I don’t want myself around. I’m totally useless.
This line from a movie, television show or other piece of popular culture pretty much sums up my entire personality.
by ScottieG33 on Jul 7, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do that nightly and have never fractured a toe
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by Clutche on Jul 7, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
obviously we need more Cubs pitchers to take dumps like you.
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drew.......
you are so clever I can’t stand it
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by Clutche on Jul 7, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
besides Drew I'm not go to the bathroom........
when I can’t sleep I get up and read your insightful posts
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
by Clutche on Jul 7, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clutche
Babbling Curse
I’d say worse, but I’ll be told to be nice.
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by dtpollitt on Jul 7, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Dan..........
you’re a kind and gentle man respected by all
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by Clutche on Jul 7, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or some that don't throw tantrums
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
by Clutche on Jul 7, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
Seriously. 3 comments? Trying to catch up?
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
GOD NO.....
if there is one person I don’t want to emulate that would be Drew
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by Clutche on Jul 7, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
then make your snark and MOVE ON
you’re killing my z mojo!
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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Three posts to make a joke
= NOT FUNNY!
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by Worf on Jul 7, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew it one too many as soon as I hit the post button...damn
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by Clutche on Jul 7, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That you know of
Ever gone out the next day and tried to throw a 94 mph sinker?
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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by dtpollitt on Jul 7, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This idea
it is horrible.
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by Craig in South Bend on Jul 7, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
somebody posted earlier that Dempster got hit in the foot by a line drive
I’m guessing that’s it.
by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so.
That happened a few days ago – why would this just be coming out now?
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're right. WGN reported that it was non-baseball related injury
actually i heard it from WSCR, who got it from WGN.
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by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha
This would truly be a soap opera season if we signed Pedro Martinez.
by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LOOGYs are cheap
Look how long it took to get Ohman and Beimel signed this winter. I think the best course of action is to try and get a cheap LOOGY from someone to bump Marshall to the rotation. We are only talking about 5-8 starts missing from Dempster here. How about John Grabow from Pit?
by CeePee17 on Jul 7, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
John Grabow, George Sherrill, Ron Mahay, Doug Davis,
possible names?
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by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn't Davis a starter?
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah Cubs can trade for Davis and keep Marshall in his bullpen role
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by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
now THIS is something I can see happening
by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is that sarcasm? i honestly don't know
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by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no -- I could really see us going after Doug Davis
Makes a lot of sense, actually.
by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3.15 ERA, 144 ERZ+
has he simply been unlucky to go 3-8?
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
D-back offense is terrible.
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by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
looks pretty unlucky to m
at least to be 3-8. Thats a lot of losses with a low ERA
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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just like Randy Wells! :P
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it almost makes sense
maybe.
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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I see.
Well, Davis did pitch well against the Cubs this season.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 7, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way your're getting Sherrill, he's their closer now.
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
by Itchy on Jul 7, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
13.5 GB
That’s why he’s available.
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by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yahbut
The O’s could be contenders next season with Markakis and the new kid they brought up and their CF… Nevermind, the AL East should just be those two a-hole teams. Move the rest of them to the other divisions…
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by chilango2 on Jul 7, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um no
but making up the difference in talent between the O’s and the Jays, Yanks, BoSox, and Rays…. thats a lot.
If they can sell Sherrill and get something… they might do it.
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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As someone who sees the O's in person a lot...
I agree…the talent gap, particularly on the pitching side, between them and the other four teams in the division is more like a gulf.
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by Chris Dobbertean on Jul 7, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm not saying that this is exactly what's gonna happen but
from mlb.com
George Sherrill, Orioles
Why he’s available: Sherrill has drawn solid inquiries from around the league for the last two years.
Will he go? The southpaw is perhaps the most likely Oriole to get traded, thanks to his performance and his salary.
Where might he go? The Dodgers and White Sox are rumored to have interest in adding relief help.
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by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK cool
So, what do the Dodgers and Sux have that the Cubs don’t? Is this doable? Sherrill would be my favorite bullpen addition.
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by chilango2 on Jul 7, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if the cubs bring the dough, the trade will be a go
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by lexmarklover on Jul 7, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was just reported that the reason
the DL stint isn’t retroactive is because they had to recall Hart who was jusst sent down (or something along those lines). Probably also because it’ll take the full two weeks at least to heal (if not more).
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by gridiron_assassin on Jul 7, 2009 4:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jason Marquis anyone
This really makes Hendry look bad. He just had to dump the Marquis $$………for what? He agrees to pay half of his $$……..takes on 3 M in Vizcaino and releases him. What was saved in that transaction? Say what you want about Marquis but he took the ball every 5th day and kept them in games
by plenz on Jul 7, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I posted this in another thread
Given Wells’ emergence, I don’t think trading Marquis looks that bad. What looks TERRIBLE is that we got nothing for Marquis. Hendry’s offseason is looking really bad.
by elgato on Jul 7, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't care that Marquis left
It’s just that the reasoning behind it ($$$$)……..didn’t make sense…….they saved hardly anything and got nada to show for it
by plenz on Jul 7, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Horrible trade... because we got absolutely nothing of value for him othet than some chash releif.
Horrible.
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by SackMan on Jul 7, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
didn’t it COST money to unload Marquis?
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by Allie on Jul 7, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
once we DFA's Vizcanio
yes.
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 7, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't how much of marquis' contract we agreed to pay
Then, we dumped Vizcaino… and ate his entire contract when we DFA’d him. Horrible, horrible trade. The worst deal Hendry’s made in my opinion.
You trade a serviceable/quality starting pitcher for… well… nothing.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Jul 7, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
all all that just to get MB, basically
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by ambrosiadreams on Jul 7, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A complete waste.
regardless of Marquis current outstanding performance, he had much more value in the off-season than what we got for him.
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by SackMan on Jul 7, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No thanks
Marquis is a notoriously fast starter, but talk to me again in September and see if you still want him back. There’s a reason that he’s been left off of post season rosters in both Chicago and St Louis.
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by gridiron_assassin on Jul 7, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Muck Farquis
I’m sick of that name. I’m sick of the love for him.
He was a 5th starter. Nothing more, nothing less. He couldn’t make 17 playoff rosters in a row.
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by Worf on Jul 7, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not Love for him on my part
it’s just the way it went down………why pay half his salary AND take another bad contract on? Actually, Marquis contract wasn’t that bad given what’s out there……..we have many other worse contracts than his
by plenz on Jul 7, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please tell me Dempster's injury is not the subject of the sentence beginning "This..."
Because if it is, then “this,” as in your comment, is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever read.
Marquis is making the Cubs regret the decision to trade him, no doubt. That Dempster hurt his toe and will miss some time makes the decision no better or worse.
by Orval Overall on Jul 7, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is rather sharp and relevant right now
Baseball injuries and their predictability, per NYT>
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by chilango2 on Jul 7, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that's the premise of a Hitchcock movie....
by Orval Overall on Jul 7, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoops, was on the wrong comment when I hit reply.
Meant to be in reference to the Gatorade one below….
by Orval Overall on Jul 7, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What exactly caused this?
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