Hart sent back to Iowa

by oeosoto on Jul 9, 2009 2:28 PM CDT Comment 68 comments

The Cubs optioned right-handed pitcher Kevin Hart to Triple-A Iowa on Thursday, and they will make a corresponding roster move prior to Friday's home game against the Cardinals.

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090709&content_id=5785610&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc

In my mind they wouldn't make this move unless something is going on. They need Hart to start again after the All-Star break for Dempster and he will now not be able to come up from Iowa for 10 days. Unless they plan on going to a 4 man rotation for a little bit after the All-Star break but, this gives me a feeling that something is going to happen in the way of a trade or a Signing.

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Peavy!

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by Kinky Reggae on Jul 9, 2009 2:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I was hoping Halladay

Onley said they were interested and may have the package that could get it done.

by oeosoto on Jul 9, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is there a link for that?

Peavy was a joke BTW.

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by Kinky Reggae on Jul 9, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/chicago_cubs/index.html

by oeosoto on Jul 9, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That link doesn't appear to say anything about the Cubs.

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by Kinky Reggae on Jul 9, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

have to press continue reading

by oeosoto on Jul 9, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Got it but

that didn’t seem too promising. I would love the Doc here. I tell you what, if the Brewers get him, a la CC Sabathia…I will be PISSED!

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by Kinky Reggae on Jul 9, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I dont think we have the goods for Doc

nor the need really, hes great sure, but like Peavy, how much would you give up for a luxury?

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jul 9, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I won't if it costs them a bunch of prospects and the Cubs finish first, anyway

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by Shanghai Badger on Jul 9, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I suppose but

I have always thought that prospects can be overrated. Had Hendry explored trading Pie sooner, we could have had better. I love the “idea” of homegrown prospects but given the Cubs track record, I fear that we are simply protecting something that will ultimately let us down. My true fear is that the coaching system in this organization is weak and this is why our “prospects” often go elsewhere and succeed.

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by Kinky Reggae on Jul 9, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, I don't disagree with that

The farm system isn’t impressing me

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by Shanghai Badger on Jul 9, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

A shame really.

I fear for the likes of Josh Vitters. IMO, if we can get an arm like Doc and lock him up, it’s worht it.

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by Kinky Reggae on Jul 9, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or worth it...whatever ya know?

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by Kinky Reggae on Jul 9, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I'd make that trade

Don’t think the Jays would, though.

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by Shanghai Badger on Jul 9, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wouldn't we just assume

that Marshall is going to start?

Its funny, you spend most of your life gripping a baseball. And in the end, its almost always the other way around.

by TCobb1911 on Jul 9, 2009 2:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Not without a Lefty in the pen

by oeosoto on Jul 9, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're on to something here

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jul 9, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not much of a follower

of AAA. Is there any lefty down there they could call up?

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by TCobb1911 on Jul 9, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well....

Casey Fossum, JR Mathes, and James Russell are lefties at Iowa. Mathes, I believe, is injured or coming off an injury.

Lord I hope they don’t call up Fossum for a start. Russell’s numbers look pretty decent at Iowa.

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 9, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

waddell was just taken off the DL

wells4roty

by jesus christos on Jul 9, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Aaaaaand optioned to Iowa.

I wonder whether they’ll ever clarify exactly why Waddell was DL’d in the first place.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 9, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No

We won’t find out. HIPPA. Federal Law greatly limits what can be released about an employee. In fact, I wonder why we hear as much about player’s injuries as we do.

by frustratedfan on Jul 9, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's a good point.

I guess it’s none of our business really. Still, it’s hard not to be curious.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 9, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do these guys get worker's comp for all these "Injuries"?

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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 9, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i thought waddell was a non-baseball injury

by doofus cubs guy on Jul 9, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sully says Jeff Stevens to be promoted

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/07/cubs-send-kevin-hart-to-iowa.html

by Qixotl on Jul 9, 2009 2:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

guess I was just hoping

for Halladay

by oeosoto on Jul 9, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Showcase?

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by Kinky Reggae on Jul 9, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thats what I figured...

I think people need to stop hoping for something to happen. Nothing is going to.

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by TCobb1911 on Jul 9, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Article also says

that Waddell is getting sent back down, but that the team isn’t going to call anyone up to take his place. Brilliant. The most important series of the year is coming up, and the Cubs decided to go with a 24 man roster.

by TarHeelHawk on Jul 9, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

they are calling someone up tmrw before game

by oeosoto on Jul 9, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Waddell is on the DL

He isn’t on the 25 man roster right now, so a demotion will keep the roster at 25 men (sans the resting Soto).

by Qixotl on Jul 9, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good

I’m happy he gets his chance, he’s been doing great in Iowa.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 9, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Has anyone

heard anything definitive on Soto? I just read on Sun Times that he may be available in late inning situations defensively.

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by TCobb1911 on Jul 9, 2009 2:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Sully says that Soto will be fully benched for the entire weekend

He will not be reevaluated until a week from today.

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/07/cubs-hop-on-fox-with-soto-out-.html

by Qixotl on Jul 9, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Makes sense...

with that sort of injury, I’m guessing he’ll eventually be put on the DL (retroactive to the last time he played). But given how well he was hitting before the injury, they don’t want to force him to the DL unnecessarily. This way, they can wait and see if he’s ready to go after the break.

by SouthernCub on Jul 9, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But Gordo

says he could be available to play potentially late in games.

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by TCobb1911 on Jul 9, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Twittermyer confirms that Stevens will be called up to replace Hart:

@cst_cubs: Jeff Stevens, acquired in DeRosa deal, to take Hart’s spot on roster tomorrow, putting Cubs pen back at 7 for Cards.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 9, 2009 3:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Well, Twit's not exactly right....

…..they still need a starter for Sunday’s 1st or 2nd game, so that would put the bullpen back at 6.

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 9, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Only need four

Harden on Friday, Lilly on Saturday, Zambrano and Wells on Sunday.

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/probable_pitchers.jsp?c_id=chc

by Qixotl on Jul 9, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Correct, only four starters needed until July 20...

assuming we don’t have any more injuries or any ridiculously long games that require using an extra starter out of the bullpen, of course.

by SouthernCub on Jul 9, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

D'oh. Yeah, you're right.

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by carmen_fanzone on Jul 9, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is a non-issue...

Hart only has to be in the minors for 10 days. The team won’t need a starter until well after the all-star break. They’ll go with Harden, Lilly, Wells, and Zambrano against the Cardinals. Then, the team gets three days off, and can go with Harden, Lilly, Wells, and Zambrano (in some order) after the break. That means the team won’t need a fifth starter until July 20 at the earliest. So at that point, the team could recall Hart to start on the 20th.

This move was simply made to get an extra bullpen arm for the next eight games while the team only needs four starters. It’s a no-brainer. That’s not to say another move isn’t in the works, but this isn’t necessarily indicative of any bigger move.

by SouthernCub on Jul 9, 2009 3:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

That about sums it up!

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 9, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it does...

thanks for putting an end to this post, man. : (

Nothin’ left to see here… move on everybody.

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by digitalbenjamin on Jul 9, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry to spoil the fun

I hate fun :)

by SouthernCub on Jul 9, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But what happens after we sign BJ Ryan?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Jul 9, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Got any inside word on that, Al?

Hath Deep Goat spoken?

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 9, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I did hear from DG today.

There is no information one way or the other on this from DG.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Jul 9, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope DG is enjoying the day off

and chewing on some nice grass.

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by Doggie Stalker on Jul 9, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I saw some goats up in Door County a couple weeks back.

But none of them were particularly deep. We just made small talk.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 9, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

At long last DG's identity is revealed!!!

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by digitalbenjamin on Jul 9, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey!

Where’d you get that camera?

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by Al on Jul 9, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

sneaky bow-tie camera....

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by digitalbenjamin on Jul 9, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's the one!

Waitress, more lingonberries!

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 9, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I LOVE Al Johnson's

Been going for over 40 years. When I was a kid ( a real one not a baby goat)
I loved seeing those goats on the roof.

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by Doggie Stalker on Jul 10, 2009 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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by Shanghai Badger on Jul 10, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep, great place.

I was just there with my family a couple weeks ago.

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