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The Great Gorzo, Part Deux: Cubs vs. Rockies Preview, Monday 8/10, 7:40 CT

"The Great Gorzo" was the winner of Zeke's FanPost series to decide Tom Gorzelanny's nickname. With the Great Gorzo going tonight, the headline followed naturally.

Anyway, the Cubs need this win to split the series (and season series) with the Rockies, and have a .500 road trip, which is one way to make a playoff team (split on the road, win 2/3 of your games at home). Another way is to beat up on the bad teams and split with the good ones -- some here have complained that "the Cubs can't beat the good teams", noting they are 20-23 against teams which currently have winning records. The Cubs have recently won series vs. the Brewers and Astros when those teams began the series with a winning record, so quoting "currently" doesn't necessarily reflect what was going on at the time. I pointed out yesterday that the Cardinals have a 21-21 record vs. teams that currently have winning records.

I thought it would be instructive to take a look at other good teams' records against such teams. Currently, 16 of the 30 teams are over .500.

The Dodgers are 34-29 against those teams. The Rockies are 28-30. The Giants are 28-25. The Phillies are 27-28.

Hmmm. Looks like "good" teams in the National League pretty much split against each other. How about some of the AL teams?

The Yankees are 28-29 (even after sweeping Boston this past weekend). The Red Sox are also 28-29. The Angels are 31-33. And the Tigers are 26-25.

So it appears that most, if not all, of the contending teams this year are doing it by splitting with each other and beating up on the bad teams. The Cubs, at 20-23, are a little behind the rest, but not much.

Meanwhile, if Aramis Ramirez's shoulder is still bothering him after some more rest (likely today's game, too), further treatment may be necessary:

If a day or two of rest doesn't significantly improve the soreness in Aramis Ramirez's left shoulder, the next step could be a cortisone shot that sidelines the Cubs' cleanup hitter for at least two more games during a particularly tough stretch of opponents.

"We talked about it," said the third baseman, who was forced to leave Saturday's game in the fifth inning because of increasing soreness in the shoulder he dislocated early this season. "We'll see how it responds with some [oral] medicine first before we take that step.

"We don't have any days off here, so it's going to be a day that we play if we do it."

Let's hope that isn't needed and Aramis can return to the lineup tomorrow night against the Phillies.

Star-divide

Today's Starting Pitchers
Tom Gorzelanny
Tom Gorzelanny
Cubs
vs. Jorge de la Rosa
Jorge de la Rosa
Rockies
4-1 W-L 9-8
3.38 ERA 5.00
13 SO 120
5 BB 50
0 HR 15
vs. Col -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Tom Gorzelanny 4-1 10 1 0 0 0 0 16.0 9 6 6 0 5 13 3.38 .88


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Jorge De La Rosa 9-8 22 21 0 0 0 0 122.1 118 71 68 15 50 120 5.00 1.37

Jorge de la Rosa has never started against the Cubs, but didn't allow them a run in 6.1 relief innings over three appearances with the Brewers from 2004-06 and one with the Rockies last year. Alfonso Soriano is 2-for-3 vs. de la Rosa with a HR.

Tom Gorzelanny has made two starts against the Rockies, one of them in Coors Field on August 22, 2007. He gave up two runs (one earned) in six innings that day. If he can keep his sinker down tonight, I expect good results. No current Rockie has more than three career AB vs. Gorzelanny.

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Get better Aram

Go Cubbies!!

Go Cubs Go!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Aug 10, 2009 5:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

getting ARam back would be a real "shot in the arm" for this offense!

…as opposed to a shot in the shoulder

"I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix."
-- Dan Quayle

by LAcarl519 on Aug 10, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and that's a FAIL

Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?

by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 10, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MAKE IT GREEN!

MAKE IT GREEN!
MAKE IT GREEN!

THIS
IS
RIGHT
FIELDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 10, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I'd want a batting helmet with two ear covers if I was at war.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 10, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does Gorzelanny shave yet?

or is that his Bar Mitzvah photo?

by santo4hof on Aug 10, 2009 5:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He's not the Jewish one acquired from Pittsburgh.

You’re thinking of the other guy Grabow. Now sit back and wait for Doggie Stalker to provide us with a scintillating review of all Jewish ballplayers in baseball and whether each is circumcised.

"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)

by BLou on Aug 10, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Completely inappropriate, but I LOL'ed, not gonna lie.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 10, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well since you seem to want to know

My best GUESS would be only Grabow and Marquis though I have absolutely no first hand knowledge.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 10, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great analysis of splitting with +.500 teams, Mr. Yellon.

I like it.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 10, 2009 5:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm guessing we won't hear from...

… the person who mentioned this in the first place, because I’ve disproven his hypothesis.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 10, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I thought the same thing.

It matters not; good teams in baseball cannot beat up on other good teams more than about 50-55% of the time as you’ve shown from this season. IIRC, there’s a chapter or a section on THE BOOK about win expectancy. I might have to pull it out again and look at it and add to your thoughts later tonight.

Dan

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 10, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

please don't pull it out again

the children are still awake

"I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix."
-- Dan Quayle

by LAcarl519 on Aug 10, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL Carl.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 10, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW, you are 100% right :-)

"I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix."
-- Dan Quayle

by LAcarl519 on Aug 10, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When has that ever stopped him ?

should anything go bad tonight I imagine we will hear from him.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 10, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And with the Phillies

currently with 3 wins in their last 10 and losers of 3 in a row we are getting them at a good time. Pedro is going Wednesday for his first start, that will be interesting. Harden will have to be on against Happ and Dempster has a tough on with Cliff Lee. I think we can take 2 of 3 and with a win tonight we’ll have a little better record against teams above .500.

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Aug 10, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate playing teams in losing streaks

I figure the odds are against you.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 10, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You might want to reconsider that statement...

…seeing as how it could only apply for the first game of a series. I would think you’d want to face a team with a losing streak the rest of the time.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 10, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed.

now, let’s win 3 of the next 4 and get our # in line with the rest of the contenders.

"I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix."
-- Dan Quayle

by LAcarl519 on Aug 10, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amen.

Mully and Hanley kept flogging the dead horse of “The Cubs haven’t won a series against a team with a winning record since April” this morning and I wanted to punch a hole in my radio.

"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.

by Goodie1969 on Aug 10, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh my

I read the quoted section with the boxed word [ ] as replacement, not an addition.

Well, yes, we’ll see how it responds to that. While I appreciate how far the team is willing to go for him, I’m not sure it’s going to help his shoulder.

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Aug 10, 2009 5:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pain meds, I'm guessing.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 10, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I figured that out

eventually.

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Aug 10, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bracketed words in a quote are a pet peeve of mine

a quote should be the quote – and you can quote me on that. Did ARam say “oral” or didn’t he? If he did, then no need for brackets. If he didn’t, then why include it in the quote. If there’s some context needed, then add it outside the quote – don’t sit there and put words in the guy’s mouth; oral or otherwise…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 10, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A lot of times there's no way around it...

In academic work for example, it’s almost unavoidable (try quoting a government report with sub-clauses/sections without using brackets).

It’s also necessary when you have pronoun confusion. There’s really nothing untoward about doing it, unless you to do to alter the meaning of what’s being said.

by CubsWin!Oregon on Aug 10, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I try to stay away from academic work, so I'll take your word for it.

and in the hands of a well-trained writer, perhaps it is a necessary evil. But seeing as how most of the situations I see it in are in sports articles, I question the writer’s skill to correctly use it. And in the case of a few Chicago writers, they do seem to do it to alter the meaning.

Just seems like a cop-out most of the time.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 10, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

caption: hey ump, im on the base!

He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.

by jesus christos on Aug 10, 2009 5:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Where did you see that?

I can’t find any links.

And it’s not quite “for nothing”. They have to pay the $56 million left on his contract.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 10, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/baseball/blue-jays-trade-rios/article1247197/

He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.

by jesus christos on Aug 10, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the link.

Dumping Rios’ deal makes it possible that they might be able to keep Roy Halladay.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 10, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Assuming Halladay would stay

which I kind of doubt.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 10, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Random musings from MLBTR; press conference shortly.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 10, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

My guess is, the Sox will send a player or two who have cleared waivers to Toronto for a PTBNL.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 10, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ricardi

said they will not get anything but contract relief

by oeosoto on Aug 10, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al now searching for a negative spin on this Sox move.

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Aug 10, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bluebird Banter...

… Seems like many of the posters there don’t especially like getting nothing in return for Rios.

IIRC Rios is a player KW has pined for, for quite awhile. This may also have been a move to block the Tigers – who may have been looking to shed Magglio and replace him with Rios. It strengthens the Sox this season and prepares them for next season, as Dye & Thome could both very well be seeing their final seasons with the Sox.

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Aug 10, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but

with Contreras, Thome and Dotel gone at the end of the year, they’re hardly adding any money. Even the money they’re adding is well-spent. I think the Peavy and Rios deals are good moves.

by stuartscottslefteye on Aug 10, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, if you think about it, KW is just doing all his "FA" shopping now, instead of in the off-season.

Only in these cases, the price tag has already been established. Peavy and Rios were on the shelf, clearly labeled. No hassles, no bargaining, no “well, lemme say what my manager says”, and especially no rustproofing. If these were guys he had wanted for awhile, then these are great moves.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 10, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And no draft pick compensation for Rios

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Aug 10, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

CRAWDAD ATTACK!

Let’s hear your take on the move, bud. Dye, Pods, Los. Who goes where?

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 10, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah right.

I posted my thoughts above on the acquisition, but to quote myself:

IIRC Rios is a player KW has pined for, for quite awhile. This may also have been a move to block the Tigers – who may have been looking to shed Magglio and replace him with Rios. It strengthens the Sox this season and prepares them for next season, as Dye & Thome could both very well be seeing their final seasons with the Sox.

If in fact Quentin’s foot (plantar fasciitis) is fine and I suspect it’s not as that condition takes ages to heel then I suspect that there will be a sudden rash of guys to the DL – thanks for The Catch Dwayne Weiss, now fake an injury. They will probably rotate Rios around the OF – spelling mainly Quentin & Pods and occasionally Dye.

I like the move. It improves the Sox defensively and preps them for next year. Dye may very well be on his way out or making his way to DH. Dye’s had a great run with the Sox. And I remember several Cubs fans mocking the signing of Dye – ‘Dye is washed up and on the decline and you know that Jeromy Burnitz is better than Dye…’

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Aug 10, 2009 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh...

Are White Sox fans really disgracing baseball history by referring to Weiss’s play as “The Catch?”.

Please say that’s just a little creative license that you’re putting in there to anger the baseball gods and not a fanbase-wide movement?

by CubsWin!Oregon on Aug 10, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If that's the case...

That makes me want to vomit. Can we get Bud to censure them or something?

by CubsWin!Oregon on Aug 10, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's better than syrup of ipecac...
Ugh…Are White Sox fans really disgracing baseball history by referring to Weiss’s play as "The Catch?".

In that historic game it was the catch without a doubt.

If you’re concerned about angering the baseball gods, you might want to talk with Cubbie marketeers about this one.

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Aug 10, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

December 2004 Topic in the Cubs newsgroup: "Dye to the Sox...hahaha"
The typical White Sox player…perfect for them, average injury prone player. I cant help but laugh - “MaggotFarm”

My thoughts exactly. - Al Yellon

Who’s had the last laugh?

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Aug 10, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Crawdad.

I was singing the praises of KW and Reinsdorf. No one has been able to argue with me as of yet.

by stuartscottslefteye on Aug 10, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nothing = an assload of $ in his contract

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 10, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soooooo, lemme get this straight:

The White Sox 4th OFer is about as good as our starting RFer? Right? Rios is one of the best defensive OFers in baseball, his WAR since 2004 is higher, and they produce about the same H/R/HR/RBI/BA? Man, I AM bitter.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 10, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well surely not over Dye, and Pods is have another solid year. And Quentin is back now.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 10, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Q, Pods and Rios will be in the OF.

Dye will DH. Kotsay will back up Konerko @ 1B and sub in and out in the OF. Wise is an afterthought.

by stuartscottslefteye on Aug 10, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jim Thome would like to have a word with you...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 10, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, what the hell.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 10, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My point was that

Peavy and Rios are under Sox control for a while – not rentals.

by stuartscottslefteye on Aug 10, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a good point...

…but where does Thome fit in your lineup assessment for the rest of this year?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 10, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but Rios is having his worst offensive season in 3 years (94 OPS+)

and his worst defensive season ever (-0.2 UZR/150)

It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.

by shake n bake on Aug 10, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can explain less of Rios' decline.

His BaBIP is down significantly over his career averages, as is his speed, which may be related. He is hitting a lot more infield pop-ups (?!) and as for his defense, ya got me. I have no clue.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 10, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow Sox have now spent about 115 million in salary in the last two weeks

Does not look like the recession is hurting them.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 10, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 10, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

government bailout of the white sox?

He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.

by jesus christos on Aug 10, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and universal contracts

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 10, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

quick, someone tell peter joseph!

He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.

by jesus christos on Aug 10, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BLou is a cub fan

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 10, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but what I can't figure out..........

if someone likes how another team is doing and is hating how their fav team is doing.

Why not become a fan of that other team?

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 10, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

unless it's that you need the attention you get by saying off the wall things

But we all know that isn’t Blou problem as he has an active life outside of BCB…..

as he keeps telling us. :)

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 10, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So should the Cubs brass just quit and go work for the Red Sox?

After they’ve openly praised the Red Sox model of doing things?

I positively love the way the Red Sox have run their entire organization the past five years – strength from a stocked minor league system to a championship ballclub but I’d never consider being a fan of the Red Sox as I’ve no connection to them. I hate Hendry’s free agency crutch and backloaded contracts because they’re bad ideas, but I’m not gonna just quit.

By your rationale I should just switch allegiances?

WOXY.com - The Future of Rock and Roll

by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 10, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ummm

we were talking about BLou

by tootle on Aug 10, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he said someone, not BLou

I’m not defending anything that poster is saying as at this point it’s just getting off on attention and trolling.

But there has to be a little respect for being critical of one’s team while admiring another without being told to just go be a fan of another team.

WOXY.com - The Future of Rock and Roll

by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 10, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no....

go above to SWL’s statement about BLou is a Cubs fan, I then replied FAN?!?!?!?!?!!??

by tootle on Aug 10, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and BTW

MCF is a lady.

by tootle on Aug 10, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LADY!??!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 10, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thank you tootie

SWL you are a smart ass hehehe

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 10, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LADY when I'm with you I'm smiling...

Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?

by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 10, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he/she/it

lord if I know….

WOXY.com - The Future of Rock and Roll

by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 10, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats ok

I don’t live here this season. Im more of a vistor… so I guess there would be a variety of peeps who won’t know me.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 10, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

She for the record said that.

Jockey for the record although I’m not here nearly as much as I use to be…

I’ve never seen you rout against the Cubs. Nor do I see you or tootie ever saying something and being both wrong and then telling someone they are an ass or my personal fav Go pound sand

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 10, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

give it some time

I’m sure I’ve been wrong and spouted off before – or will. I just try not to make it a habit and most certainly don’t enjoy it.

;)

WOXY.com - The Future of Rock and Roll

by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 10, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ALthough I have tried to use go pound sand IRL

and it just didn’t work, I started to giggle.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 10, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope

i missed it. My bad. Thought you were speaking in generalities which is why I replied to your first.

Not interested in stirring up a hornet’s nest here, so i’ll probably just buttowski now, especially since you’re talking about someone else.

WOXY.com - The Future of Rock and Roll

by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 10, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That doesn't make any sense.

It’s completely reasonable to admire another team. I like the way the White Sox do stuff, for that matter. Hendry has made mistakes. I think KW (and, probably more accurately, Reinsdorf) do a great job running that team.

by stuartscottslefteye on Aug 10, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude

follow along the thread……;

before you go accusing me of something.

I apologize for not using his name…. I thought it was obvious who I was talking about. Obviously it wasn’t.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 10, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reading is for losers

as spoken by the great Steve Dahl

by stuartscottslefteye on Aug 10, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

6/$60M is money

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 10, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really hope Aramis

gets better soon.

Good luck tonight Gorzo.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Aug 10, 2009 5:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Accompanying caption song:

Fly Like An Eagle by Seal

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 10, 2009 5:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is that a remake of the Steve Miller Band song?

or did Seal just rip off the title…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 10, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Going by memory..

…i think Seal did a cover of “Fly Like An Eagle” for the Space Jam soundtrack.

by bikemonkey on Aug 10, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder of the Rockie chix

get as moist over their de la rosa as the Trixies pining over their lost loves.

WOXY.com - The Future of Rock and Roll

by Gibbon Jockey on Aug 10, 2009 5:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pedro to start for the Phillies this Wednesday @ Wrigley

It will be interesting to see how well he pitches. Of course, I hope the Cubs light him up…

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on Aug 10, 2009 5:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

v Spellcheck?

"I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix."
-- Dan Quayle

by LAcarl519 on Aug 10, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've got tickets for that one

I’ll be ready for a long night with heavy bullpen usage

by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 10, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cinci just took two out of three from the Giants...

It sure would be nice if they could do the same in St. Louis. It’s a three game series there right?

More importantly, a Cubs win tonight would be real nice. 5-5 sounds a lot better than 4-6.

by cubfanwill on Aug 10, 2009 5:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

maybe cy young lehr will shutdown the cards

He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.

by jesus christos on Aug 10, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He'll cost 8 million dollars....I doubt it.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 10, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

boston might get him

He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.

by jesus christos on Aug 10, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know Boston is interested

and i haven’t heard anything about cubs interest at all I was just having wishful thinking and seeing if anyone else had same thoughts

by oeosoto on Aug 10, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The White Sox are complete idiots.

The just took on Alex Rios’ contract, 60 million until 2014, and the guy is OPSing .744, 59 points LOWER than Milton Bradley. Kenny Williams is an idiot.

by Theroid on Aug 10, 2009 6:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I dunno

if I would call him an idiot. He is trying to get a guy who was a very good player for nothing he is taking a chance

by oeosoto on Aug 10, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wouldnt say taking on his monstrous contract is "nothing"

He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.

by jesus christos on Aug 10, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry....

60 M is not nothing

by tootle on Aug 10, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do actually

I think he had a horrid first half of the season but, yes I think Milton bradley is a good baseball player and has a great on base percentage and may have found his niche with this cubs team finally

by oeosoto on Aug 10, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm.....

Kenny Williams is a gambler who very rarely makes mistakes of consequences. Name one prospect he has ever traded away in his deals over the last 9 years that has gone on to amount to a hill of beans in the majors. Also, Williams has $40 million coming off the books next winter in the form of Thome, Dye, Contreras and Dotel. To go along with the $30 million plus he smartly shed last winter in the form of Vasquez, Swisher, Crede, Cabrera and Uribe.

White Sox won a World Series Championship. Until the Cubs can replicate that feat then it is MIGHTY ridiculous to go mocking a franchise that has great ownership, a great front office and a great manager that wins.

"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)

by BLou on Aug 10, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dammit I love the White Sox..

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 10, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Young.

Hit a HR off Rich Hill in game 3 of the 2007 NLDS. Thats more than a hill of beans. Any other questions?

by Theroid on Aug 10, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You said a hill of beans.

I gave you your answer. You were wrong.

by Theroid on Aug 10, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You've fallen for the oldest trick in his bag.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 10, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

tricksey hobbitses!

He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.

by jesus christos on Aug 10, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you're defending a ballplayer who is hitting .194 ??

Javier Vazquez for Chris Young was solid move by Kenny Williams. And this year Vazquez netted Tyler Flowers from Atlanta, who is the number one prospect in the Sox system now that Beckham has been promoted.

But thanks for playing our game.

"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)

by BLou on Aug 10, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And you are a nutbag

Chris Young sucks. Nuff said. In 9 years of being White Sox GM not once has Williams traded away a prospect who has gone on to have a good career. Not once.

"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)

by BLou on Aug 10, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But you didn't say that.

You said a hill of beans. A HR in the NLDS is more than a big of beans. I knew your logic blew, or should I say blou, but wow. Admit you’re wrong, pal.

by Theroid on Aug 10, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Might want to adjust the pipe cleaner attenas stickout out of your tin foil beanie

Chris Young sucks. End of subject.

"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)

by BLou on Aug 10, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You don't run anything, this subject isn't over.

Chris Young> a Hill of Beans, and also a Hill of Rich, as I’ve proven. Admit you are wrong.

by Theroid on Aug 10, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cannot argue with that

White Sox are not my team, but I respect the teams that they put together. In that park Rios will play an above average CF/RF and hit about 30 – 35 HR’s a year. It is a quality move.

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on Aug 10, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

30-35 HRS?!?

His career average is 16 HR’s, and he’s never hit more than 24. He hit 15 last year. Why the hell would he hit 30-35?

by Theroid on Aug 10, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because Kenny Williams will tell him to.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 10, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, he traded Nick Masset for Ken Griffey.

Masset has been a darn good reliever for the reds.

by Theroid on Aug 10, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two Words

Joakim Soria

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Aug 10, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miles and Heilman for Soria, straight up

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Aug 10, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

See above.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 10, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does trading Keith Foulke for Billy Koch count?

It was in December of 2002 so I don’t know if Kenny was in charge then.

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Aug 10, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he was in charge then

He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.

by jesus christos on Aug 10, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Talk about moving the goalposts, right?

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Aug 10, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

....

It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.

by shake n bake on Aug 10, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going through the White Sox transaction log (I love research)

and here’s one…

7/18/04: Acquired OF Carl Everett and cash considerations from Montreal in exchange for minor league RHP Jon Rauch and RHP Gary Majewski.

I’ll let you know when I find more.

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Aug 10, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It won't matter...

He’s going to simply tell you whoever you find are/were not good players and that you’re wrong. You are wasting your time.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 10, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK...but he should know ahead of time that it's going to be a fruitless endeavor...

if he thinks it’s going to prove anything to BLou.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 10, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

true.......

I can’t imagine needing attention that badly for this many years. That’s just out there.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 10, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do enjoy the research

helps kill time until first pitch.

Anyway, here’s another one: 12/13/05 Acquired INF Rob Mackowiak from the Pittsburgh Pirates in exchange for LHP Damaso Marte

Marte has been bad in the Bronx, but he was pretty good in Pittsburgh in 2006 and especially 2007.

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Aug 10, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This isn't PITTSBURGH!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 10, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah....

he was talking about the Major Leagues

by tootle on Aug 10, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

I didn’t want to get too current, as it is tough to say how a prospect pans out in 2-4 years.

I didn’t go through this because I think Kenny Williams is a bad GM. I think he’s a very good GM whose made more than he’s missed. Is he a perfect GM who gets EVERY move right? No. That guy doesn’t exist.

Take Boston, a very well-run franchise. Even they’ve made mistakes (Renteria, Clement and the 100 million dollar bag of suck that is Daisuke)

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Aug 10, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know about all that.

The Cubs have made the playoffs as many times as the Pale Hose this decade, and honestly, while I’m taking nothing away from their World Series win, isn’t the measure of a well-run franchise that the team is in a position to contend for a championship more often than not? If the team chokes when their moment arrives, I don’t see how that can be laid at the feet of the GM.

If Doug Eddings had gotten the call right in Game 2 of the ALCS, and the Sox had gone on to lose the game and later the series, that wouldn’t have been KW’s fault. Just like it wasn’t Hendry’s fault his guys forgot how to field the ball last year, or that Alex Gonzalez muffed a routine DP ball in ’03.

Using their (sorta) recent success in the postseason as a barometer of greatness for the White Sox must mean that the Yankees are dog feces, because they haven’t won a title since Clinton was President. In fact, I’d rate ‘05 as a great year for the Sox, but for consistently fielding a winning team that plays the game right on a mid-market budget, I’d rank the Twins ahead of the White Sox.

"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.

by Goodie1969 on Aug 10, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW

your user name, sir, is an epic win.

"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.

by Goodie1969 on Aug 10, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, he's a RIVERBOAT GAMBLER!!!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 10, 2009 6:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

reply fail....

this is in response to Theriod

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 10, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

83 wins

…and the ship be sinking.

"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)

by BLou on Aug 10, 2009 6:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

cool dude

He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.

by jesus christos on Aug 10, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So glad your still happy.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 10, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BLou posting

without it being directly after a loss? Will he stick around for a game thread if the Cubs are doing well?

by Spotacus on Aug 10, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We all know the answer to that one

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Aug 10, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He almost NEVER gets involved in a gamethread.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 10, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're too highbrow for me....

"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)

by BLou on Aug 10, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he obviously has a full life

and would not have time for that

by sgerring21 on Aug 10, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, shiiiiiiiiit.

I don’t, I’LL BE THERE!

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 10, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anything Under 87 Wins...

and the Cubs won’t have any reasonable chance of making the playoffs.

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Aug 10, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

3756 posts

…and the beat hasn’t changed.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 10, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That Doesn't Count...

the posts made as MDBNIU.

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Aug 10, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

also as BM

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Aug 10, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lineup's up

cst_cubs Lineup vs. rare LHP: riot, milt, lee, fox (3b), soto, sori, baker, fuld, gorz

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Aug 10, 2009 6:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

My god.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 10, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what?

you like the fail that seems imminent? (not that it is, that’s why they play the games….)

by tootle on Aug 10, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just not the offensive juggernaut I envisioned when 2009 started.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 10, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yipee a Fuld sighting

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 10, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would be nice to see Soto get back on track tonight

17 hits was great yesterday, we just need more RUNS.

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on Aug 10, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Better Defense

That would help the Cubs a lot, too. They haven’t fielded well in Colorado.

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Aug 10, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like it

Milton, Lee, and Riot are the top 3 of the lineup in OBP (ignoring Gorz’s 4 PA and Fuld’s 30)and Fox, Sori and Baker have had good power this year.

It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.

by shake n bake on Aug 10, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

One of these day's I'm gonna make a list of every damn time MLB starts baseball games at.

Another reason MLB is run by douchebag idiots. 740 pm? WTF.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 10, 2009 6:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Severe thunderstorm warning in Denver until 12:00

according to Twittermeyer

Fukudometer: Created 3/31/08 Wrigley Debut 4/5/08 WGN and Japan TV Debut 4/6/08 Sun Times Debut: 4/20/08 Coffee Table Debut: 7/17/08 (http://www.wearecubsfans.com)

by Fukudometer on Aug 10, 2009 6:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yippee

He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.

by jesus christos on Aug 10, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm here in Denver

and the weather is perfect. Every afternoon we have “scattered” thunderstorms, but it looks pretty dry outside this afternoon. Nothing to worry about…

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on Aug 10, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, BCB, what's your oper/under for Cubs runs tonights

with this, uh, interesting lineup?

I’ll take 7.

"Enough foreplay- let's get crackin'"- Fred Garvin

by davidalanu on Aug 10, 2009 6:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

'scuse me, OVER/ under

"Enough foreplay- let's get crackin'"- Fred Garvin

by davidalanu on Aug 10, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Mortimer, Mr. Valentine has set the market..."

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 10, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Well done, William.

Very well done."

"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.

by Goodie1969 on Aug 10, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

trading places reference, +5 pts. well done, sir

"Enough foreplay- let's get crackin'"- Fred Garvin

by davidalanu on Aug 10, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the Blue Jays can do this to Alex Rios, why can't the Cubs dump Aaron Miles?

Give him to the Padres… they might want his expertise

COOL BEANS!

by lexmarklover on Aug 10, 2009 6:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

then who do the cubs fans have to hate?

He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.

by jesus christos on Aug 10, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh, Milton Bradley, duh.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 10, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

too easy..

He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.

by jesus christos on Aug 10, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aaron Heilman's "fan" club

would like a word

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Aug 10, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that settles that

get it done jimbo

He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.

by jesus christos on Aug 10, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We will still have one Aaron too many.

"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.

by Goodie1969 on Aug 10, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

Are you a member of the Just say to No to Aaron’s fanclub?

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 10, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's a club?

I can’t imagine it’s very exclusive.

"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.

by Goodie1969 on Aug 10, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No it isn't

someone (maybe nij?) has signture line saying that…

and i was in a pregame thread the day Miles was activated…. So I decided to start a club. No dues, and no it isn’t exclusive

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 10, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that implies

that someone wants Aaron’s services

by tootle on Aug 10, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I watched him legging out the triple the other night

and initially thought “damn, he’s fast,” but then realized that it was an illusion – he just takes two strides for every one stride a grown-up makes

by stuartscottslefteye on Aug 10, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love the sox. I think Ozzie is hot. Damn what I would do that.

StuScotteye earlier in thread – " Hey Crawdad. I was singing the praises of KW and Reinsdorf. No one has been able to argue with me as of yet."

Hmmm…Who Cares???

Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?

by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 10, 2009 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

heh thats cool

He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.

by jesus christos on Aug 10, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently you do.

There’s a reason it wasn’t addressed to you.

by stuartscottslefteye on Aug 10, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and yet on a blog for all to see...

Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?

by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 10, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

heeheh

pot roast

eheheh

He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.

by jesus christos on Aug 10, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he doesn't have a beef...

I think he’s just pointing out an obvious fact…….

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 10, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Over my head, apparently.

What’s the obvious point? Can we not discuss baseball en toto, or is this strictly a Cubs board? As I’ve said befire, I’ve been here a long while, but as a different screen name. I’m a HUGE Cubs fan.

It just seems to me that some are so easily threatened on this site

by stuartscottslefteye on Aug 10, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no you addressed someone specific

he said he didn’t care.

You then thought he had a beef w/ you

His point that it is a message board… other people might comment on somehting you say to someone specific and not to get your panties in a bundle

NOT QUESTIONING YOUR FANHOOD.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 10, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please don't start the Cubs fans are threatened by the Sox

No, the Sox fans are threatened by the Cubs. Enough of that in the media way overblown. Don’t care to see that here. Sox are a good organization, lots of respect. Chicago is lucky ro have two good orgs on town. Would rather stick to the Cubs here, as it is a Cubs blog. My opinion.

Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?

by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 10, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I can see that, and I totally agree that

Sox fans are totally preoccupied with the Cubs. Little brother syndrome.

by stuartscottslefteye on Aug 10, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

same with bandwagon brewer fans

The ones that have been brewer fans all their lives don’t seem to be. At least in my experience that is what it seems to be.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 10, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but it does go both ways sometimes.

We have more than enough to argue about in house. That’s my point, again, my opinion.

Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?

by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 10, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I'm saying - I wasn't arguing

and didn’t mean to crap in anyone’s Cheerios. Just making a point

by stuartscottslefteye on Aug 10, 2009 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about the Cubs just go ahead and win tonight???

Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?

by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 10, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Lemme buy you a beer…

by stuartscottslefteye on Aug 10, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bud please. No, no, make it an Old Style!

Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?

by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 10, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Atta boy -

but only if you bring that chick in your avatar

by stuartscottslefteye on Aug 10, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if only...

Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?

by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 10, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like pot roast.

With lots of peas.

Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?

by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 10, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Connie's has great pot roast.

Used to get it all the time @ the location in Lisle on Ogden Ave.

by stuartscottslefteye on Aug 10, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ya. No beef, see Madison Cub Fan's repsonse, she's correct.

Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?

by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 10, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

did you grow up in MI?

I see you are both Cub/Packer fan.

Along w/ pot roast did you have tator tot casserole?

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 10, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I work hard for the money.

Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?

by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 10, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and Go Cubs, we need a W tonight!!

Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?

by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 10, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

gah...

now I’ve got a song stuck in my head.

by tootle on Aug 10, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Little OT

I rarely ever see webgems (as I don’t have cable/ dish etc) but over the weekend Cedano had one for the Pirates

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 10, 2009 7:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Geeze...

Lou seemed pretty exasperated during the pre-game interview. Talked about how getting healthy seems almost impossible, and how the next two weeks will tell a lot about what’s going to happen. He didn’t seem too confident about much really.

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on Aug 10, 2009 7:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah he seemes exasperated.

Like he was tired of talking abiut Z; and specifically pointing out that his MRI hasn’t shown anything wrong with his back in a long time

by stuartscottslefteye on Aug 10, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

probably

it’s gotta be a frustrating year for him.

by tootle on Aug 10, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was talking to a friend about that...

Yeah I think so. But I wonder if Ryno is ready for major league managing yet?

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 10, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sign Trammel or Brenly for a 2-3 year contract

and try to get Ryno in there as one of the coaches.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 10, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And the managing merry-go-round continues

The Cubs will never win anything if they keep changing managers ever few years.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 10, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course Lou's exhausted

He had to sprint from the dugout all the way to second base yesterday for that argument.

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on Aug 10, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090809&content_id=6335104&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc

“I took a nap,” Piniella said. “I didn’t watch the whole game. Usually when I get thrown out, I let my bench coach manage.”

he should be well rested after that nap though

the cubs lineup needs moar LIND

by jesus christos on Aug 10, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Took a nap.

He’s already checked out this season. That doesn’t inspire me at all.

by stuartscottslefteye on Aug 10, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sonofa......

You know……sometimes i do think were cursed. Is there anyone else on the friggin team that wants to get injured??? Just asking……get it over with NOW!!!!
Save me the cardiac arrest in september…….

by SoN of a GuN on Aug 10, 2009 8:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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