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Vent out all of your 2009 season frustrations here, its not good to keep them bottled up. Vent whether your angry about marmols inability to throw strikes or anyone named aaron. dont worry, i wont judge. in the legendary words of that coors commercial, lets vent!

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fuck i want to vent but i'm too tired.

I probably shouldn’t have said the first word. Oh well. I’m sick of freaking miles and samardjiza and this crap shoot of a bullpen. I’m sick of this offense. I’m so sick of me!

COOL BEANS!

by lexmarklover on Aug 11, 2009 11:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks for this

So one day we have the best pitching staff in the NL and we can’t buy a hit. Now we are getting hits in bunches to go with our pitching and we find ways I have never seen before to lose!

Wow, when it rains, it really catches completely on FIRE!!!!!

Cubs have to be cursed in some way. This is more than just bad breaks or people not playing up to their regular #’s.

Ugh, this sucks, really really sucks.

Good Guys Wear Blue

by Cubskingdom on Aug 11, 2009 11:26 PM CDT reply actions  

If the Cubs are cursed, then...

You’d have to believe that God is a jerk or simply doesn’t care. I don’t believe in curses because those are just silly.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 11, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

so you believe in God

but you don’t believe in curses? which is sillier?

by John T. Unger on Aug 11, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Honestly man. A priest blessed the dugout last year and they still got swept. The curse is all hype and nothing more. I cringe when anyone suggests that a team is cursed. Religion has nothing to do with it.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 11, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I should not have said cursed

I just could not think past my frustration for what I felt about this team. Sometimes it just boggles my mind how they loose and all the Sabermetrics in the world can’t soothe the anger.

17 hits!!??

holding them to 2 hits in 9 innings, 3 in 12, and WE STILL LOSE!!!!!

Good Guys Wear Blue

by Cubskingdom on Aug 11, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where is Casey Stengal

and the early Mets when you really need them?

"I wouldn't be a part of any club that would have me as a member" : Groucho Marx

by Dave Pendleton on Aug 17, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whew

Thanks for stepping in to cool things down Jesus

"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett

by The Ryno and I Know on Aug 12, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just think it is too odd they way the Cubs blow it

It has to be something more than just the #’s or down years, or day games…I dunno. I take your point though.

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by Cubskingdom on Aug 11, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think it's talent

pure and simple. or lack thereof rather.

by John T. Unger on Aug 11, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

But could we really have been more talented in 2008?

That was the most solid team of my lifetime.

Good Guys Wear Blue

by Cubskingdom on Aug 11, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure we could have been better

Hit the freaking ball in the playoffs. Don’t commit errors in the infield. Don’t play your worst baseball at the wrong time. The 2008 playoffs gave us a preview of the 2009 Cubs.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 11, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

How so?

Three games in October gave a preview of a 162-game season one year later? I don’t think so.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 11, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can't hit when it matters?

Granted. They played worse then, but it did seem like a prelude of sorts.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 12, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

In retrospect

maybe it seems that way, but what’s a bigger indicator of success, a 162-game sample or a 3-game sample?

The way Cubs fans are, they’d put more credence in a 3-game sample … if it’s bad, of course.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 12, 2009 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather win 11 postseason games than 97 regular season games

Or even just one postseason game for that matter.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 12, 2009 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Like love and marriage

it’s tough to have one without the other.

If that’s the case, would you welcome 84 wins and a playoff berth this year?

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 12, 2009 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Blue Mike says 83 games is the most we will win this year.

Thus, 84 games does not compute.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 12, 2009 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

at this point

I’m almost ready to give up the post season, just to win 84-87 games.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Aug 12, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

me too

Just finish over .500 and complete the sale of the team, and I’ll be content.

by CaliCub on Aug 12, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

well, also

because BLou will be wrong.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Aug 12, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

well, when those three games

happen to be the most important of the entire season, you can’t blame us for placing a lot of weight on the performance and being especially disgusted by it.

by John T. Unger on Aug 12, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

I think I might be starting to hate myself.

Good Guys Wear Blue

by Cubskingdom on Aug 11, 2009 11:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Eh.

I didn’t watch, so I didn’t invest time like many BCBers, but I have to say I’m not surprised. They’re back to the team that finds new ways to lose. Outhitting them by that wide a margin, yet losing. Harden’s great start wasted by another lack of offense. Sure, Happ is a good pitcher, but there were many opportunities.

At least the Cards lost…although it was a chance to gain ground.

Quick question….

WHY DIDN’T LOU BRING IN GRABOW TO FACE HOWARD INSTEAD OF WALKATHON MARMOL???

Sorry for yelling…hoped Lou would hear me :)

I have nothing funny or creative to write.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Aug 11, 2009 11:27 PM CDT reply actions  

What do you want him to do?

That’s what he keeps asking. I want him to retire.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 11, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, wait. I hate Aaron Miles MORE!!!

There, I feel a little better. I am comforted by the fact that when I wake up, I won’t be Aaron Miles

Good Guys Wear Blue

by Cubskingdom on Aug 11, 2009 11:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I almost wish they had not come back to tie it up in the 9th.

Am I a bad person for saying that? Because I told my daughter when it happened, “Well, now I get to waste another hour until they will lose in the 14th!”

Good Guys Wear Blue

by Cubskingdom on Aug 11, 2009 11:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Nope

Not bad at all. This team has gone from hot to a nosedive all because they lost one freaking player.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 11, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which means, unfortunately, that they weren't very good in the first place

Ramirez is a great player but that’s no excuse for the incredibly sloppy fundamentals, etc.

by bluekoolaide on Aug 11, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree completely

I’d argue that the teams from 2007 and 2008 were never actually great because once the playoffs started, Ramirez couldn’t hit and neither could the rest of the team. I predicted earlier this year when Ramirez got his shoulder injury that that was the end of the season. It was a moment of despair on my part, but it’s looking awfully correct.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 11, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know what you mean

I said at the time that, one way or another, we’d find out what kind of team we really had with A-Ram out of the line-up. Any team that dependent on one guy isn’t going to go very far.

by bluekoolaide on Aug 11, 2009 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Cardinals have the same issue with Pujols, except...

Pujols is a Hall of Fame caliber player, so no matter what, he’s dangerous. Aramis Ramirez is not Hall of Fame caliber. Now if Pujols went down to injury, that ship starts taking on water.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 11, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

i don't think you're right at this point.

that team has enough weapons to continue.

"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Aug 12, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

DESPAIR ....

Yes , but very true . That is where the 2009 season went south . I don’t think the cubs can compete until the sale is completed….

by cubs north on Aug 12, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great Idea

I told Al 2 months ago he should make an everlasting vent thread.

It can avoid the multiple posts that will be made as early as tomorrow morning.

by ak123 on Aug 11, 2009 11:33 PM CDT reply actions  

It might slow down SB Nation given how many will be here soon.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 11, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here is to hope

That we hit Pedro like Smoltz was hit right before he got sent through waivers

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by Cubskingdom on Aug 11, 2009 11:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Too much to ask for

Shark is starting.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 11, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

What does that have to do

with Pedro starting?

Let’s see what happens.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 11, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well maybe

The Shark will go back to the heat, and stop messing wit h the new pitches he is trying to learn, and will just blow everything by em’ for his one glorious start for 2009!!

Good Guys Wear Blue

by Cubskingdom on Aug 11, 2009 11:36 PM CDT reply actions  

didn't watch the game (thankfully)

should lou have left harden in with 87 pitches or did it look like he was tiring? at least we would have avoided the fiasco

by gocubs1 on Aug 11, 2009 11:36 PM CDT reply actions  

he did get in trouble in the 7th

but managed to get out of it

the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY

by jesus christos on Aug 11, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

i enjoyed

watching milton bradley stare at his home run. wait, it wasn’t a home run?

by John T. Unger on Aug 11, 2009 11:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Bradley had his best game as a Cub so far me thinks though

Wait, is that saying anything? Yah, he played a great RT Field tonight

Good Guys Wear Blue

by Cubskingdom on Aug 11, 2009 11:41 PM CDT reply actions  

He was good at the plate and the field

If he has a game like that half the time, he’s worth his contract.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Aug 12, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm so down on this team...

…that when Rollins hit the homer I just had a feeling that that was it. Call me a pessimist. The way they’ve been playing lately, I think I actually think I’m more of a realist.

I was worried going into the Rockies series that, along with the Cards easy schedule over the same period, that we’d probably be about five games out by the end of the week.

by bluekoolaide on Aug 11, 2009 11:42 PM CDT reply actions  

People will call you a pessimist

I’m simply going to say that this team is good, but not very good. The 2007 and 2008 teams were very good. The 2009 team? Not so much.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 11, 2009 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yah, I don't like getting where I feel

I know they are going to lose. I “knew” in the 9th when it was tied that we would lose. Was not sure if it would be in the 10th or 14th, but I felt it was certain. Wonder if any of the Cubs feel that way in their heart of hearts? It is a bad sign. I don’t want to feel that way, but I have been. HELP!

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by Cubskingdom on Aug 11, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

In all honesty

This has been a top down disappointment.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 11, 2009 11:45 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

That's a good summary man.

I’ll recommend that.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 12, 2009 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

The season in a nutshell

First inning Soto hits a rope right a Feliz with runners on. Second inning Theriot lines out to Rollins with runners on. And Soriano rips the shit out of the ball with the bases loaded for a sac-fly. Harden is brilliant, as for the most part starters have done well this year. Marmol sucks up the place as normal. Cubs can hit a bullpen, and Gregg gives up another long ball. game over.
 And one other thing, Aaron Miles being used again by Lou, what?
 One of those years

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Aug 11, 2009 11:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed

Out with the old and in with the new is what I’ve been calling for. One thing I think this season has proven is that our farm system can actually produce good players. We wouldn’t have contended this year without the I-Cubs.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 11, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

True but it seems at times our front office is caught by surprise by these guys

For instance, would Hendry have been so hot to hand out what I always thought was a terrible contract to Dempster if he knew Wells was ready to step up the way he has?

It seems like all of the main contributors fly in under the radar and all of our “can’t miss” guys like Patterson, Pie, Choi, etc. are disasters.

Our talent evaluation truly sucks.

by bluekoolaide on Aug 11, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is true

Hindsight is 20/20, but I can say there are things I would have done a lot differently last offseason if I had the ability to do it.

1) Let Ryan Dempster and Kerry Wood walk in free agency.
2) Sign K-Rod!!!!!!!
3) Trade Carlos Marmol and Mike Fontenot and get whatever you could in return.
4) Make some key pen upgrades.
5) Sign Raul Ibanez in free agency.

That’s it.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 12, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Where's that time machine when I need it?

When this baby hits 88 miles per hour…

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 12, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're gonna see some real shit

I love Back to the Future…it’s a shame this garbage makes me too angry to watch that movie.

by cubfanwill on Aug 12, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually it's

You’re gonna see some serious shit.

by cubfanwill on Aug 12, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ding ding ding

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 12, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

1.21 jigawatts

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Aug 12, 2009 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, K-Rod has been so stellar

this season, after all.

Who replaces Dempster in the rotation? If you were here last fall saying Wells was going to be a ROY candidate, I’ll give it up to you. Otherwise, I don’t think so.

What GM in his right mind would trade Marmol and Fontenot after the seasons they had, and the ages they are?

AV, I don’t think you’re too bad a poster, but this is total bullshit, sorry to say. You should change your handle to “Mr. Hindsight,” and not even very good hindsight at that.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 12, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good Lord man...

Read my reply to myself. Even I’m kinda making fun of it with my Back to the Future joke.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 12, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

He didn't

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 12, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, now I see it

“Back to the Future” was too far in my past, evidently.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 12, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

You don't even need all of that.

The Dempster contract was obviously stupid at the time it was made. We’ll all hope for the best, but seriously, it was a misallocation of resources.

The attitude that DeRosa had to be moved… well… just because…. was stupid. As weve discussed a thousand times, it was unnecessary and counterproductive, not only because it made the team weaker at 2B, but because it made the team substantially shallower at half the positions on the field. Hendry “sold high” on a productive player in the last year of a reasonable contract and got three arms that, best case, might result in the middle relief corps being $2-3M cheaper in 2012.

I have absolutely no idea why Hendry preferred Bradley to Dunn or Ibanez or Abreu. Is there any aspect of the game in which Bradley is better than Abreu?

And when, exactly, did Kevin Gregg get Jim Hendry’s attention? Was it last year at this time when Daryle Ward hit a game-winning 3 run shot off of him that may not have landed yet? We all knew Ward was washed up. Why go after the one guy who could give up a 500-foot game winner to Daryle?!

We all know why Hendry locked in on Aaron Heilman. It was because coach Mainieri, who Hendry trusts like the Oracle at Delphi, told him that Heilman “was the best pitcher he’d ever coached.” (Maineiri’s own words.) But can’t Hendry use his own eyes? Heilman has crumbled under pressure for going on 2 years now. That is not the kind of player you move heaven and earth to get.

Hendry is the first Cubs GM I have unconditionally supported since, well…. ever. Which is what makes this last offseason so heartbreaking. He failed in almost every possible aspect. And it’s going to cost him his job.

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by D98 on Aug 12, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm not so sure this is correct, but it should be.
And it’s going to cost him his job.

For one thing, the sale needs to go through. I don’t think Hendry’s getting fired as long as TribCo still owns the Cubs.

I have to think Ricketts will make changes. As has been mentioned here before, sometimes new leadership wants their own team installed regardless – and if the Cubs miss the postseason, not too many would question a change at GM.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

As soon as Rickett's...

…brings in his own President, you will see a new GM right after that. The only thing that could save Hendry now is a deep playoff run.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Aug 12, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

This off season Hendry made bad move after bad move .. Every free agent signing turned out bad .. signing Bradley after a career year to big money , thinking Miles would be good .. Again somethings out of Hendry’s control .. A-Ram getting hurt , Soto into pot , not one Cub having a all time career year .

by CUBFANINAZ on Aug 18, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

And don't forget....

He basically GAVE AWAY Marquis (an innings eater who always seems to be on a winner in the last year of a contract…as well…..)

Though I’m still waiting for his usual 2nd half collapse……

The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."

by kcjones on Aug 13, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only problem is

Cubs have so many long and expensive contracts, the lineup pretty much will be the same.
  Question is will the Cubs sign Harden? Probably not.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Aug 11, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope

There’s a rebuilding phase coming, which goes to show you how bad of an offseason the Cubs had coming off a 97-win season. That’s front office incompetence at its finest. Here are people I wouldn’t expect to see in a Cubs uniform in 2010:

Rich Harden
Aaron Heilman
Kevin Gregg
Reed Johnson

They can obviously work some trades where possible. Aaron Miles may have his contract eaten in the offseason (good riddance) and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Carlos Marmol traded. Let him be some other team’s headache.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 11, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats four from 25

Everyday lineup will remain. No one will take on Dome’s, Bradley’s or Soraino’s contract. Lee, Theriot and Ramy are going nowhere.
 Hey I am up for some trades, especially trying to get a quality secondbaseman. I just think moves will be slow.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Aug 11, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can't do this overnight

The Cardinals are losing their rent-a-players unless they decide to increase payroll. The Cubs need to focus on bullpen upgrades and make some appropriate deals.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 12, 2009 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

why on earth

would you want to trade Dome or Bradley right now? They’re playing pretty good baseball. Riot is cost-controlled. Rami is important to the team’s future.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Aug 12, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

True - If Bradley performs halfway between his 2009 to date and

his career year in 2008, he’s worth more than his contract cost.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Aug 12, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Kosuke and Milton could actually be a pretty great (if sort of unlikely) 1-2 combo.

"[Obama's] top advisors are Cub fans, so he has a chance." - Lou Piniella, 16 July 2009

by CaughtInTheVines on Aug 12, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

You also want to

get rid of Dome?

You have got to be out of your mind. He’s going to get far closer to .300 by the end of the season, and I suspect he’ll punch out a few more homers too. Couple that with an outfielder who can play ++defense in both center and right, and you would have to be insane.

by LeSaboteur on Aug 18, 2009 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here's his...

…line for the 2nd Half…

.345 BA .462 OBS .598 SLG 1.060 OPS 52 TB

If he can keep this pace and maintain ++defense, he’ll be an absolute monster next season. I except something more “normal”, but nothing like his first season.

by LeSaboteur on Aug 18, 2009 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

So you are saying

It will basically be the same team as this year’s except maybe adding a second baseman .

by CUBFANINAZ on Aug 18, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm going to disagree...

…on Harden. He should be kept around. For when he’s on, he’s on. And he’s been robbed by a poor performing Cubs offense the past couple of outings.

by LeSaboteur on Aug 18, 2009 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

They must think

we’re going to go out and nab CC and K-Rod. Oh, and Beckett. Maybe Stressburg want’s to come to the Northside too.

by LeSaboteur on Aug 18, 2009 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd like to think so.

But we haven’t seen this team do that. Not in my recent memory, at least.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 12, 2009 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

yes.

"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Aug 12, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

HE HAS TO BE WONDERING....

What kind of mess am I getting myself into. From day one they will have to hit the ground running…

by cubs north on Aug 12, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Best post yet.

Thanks bluekoolaide. That is what needs to happen. I like Jim, but when he admitted that he goes more on the scouts than on all the new data out there, it is time for a complete culture change. I will give Lou credit for doing what he has done.

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by Cubskingdom on Aug 11, 2009 11:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I give Lou zero credit

The guy got swept out of the playoffs two years in a row. He could not win a World Series with the 2008 Cubs. For that matter, he couldn’t win a World Series with the 116-win 2001 Mariners for Christ’s sake.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 11, 2009 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've been saying for awhile that, as much as I disliked MacPhail, I think maybe...

…he brought out the best in Hendry; his stinginess forced Hendry to be creative with trades. Once Hendry had the purse strings opened, it’s like he suddenly started spending like a drunken sailor. All of his good sense just flew out the window and the result is a series of signings that have the potential to weigh this team down for years.

by bluekoolaide on Aug 11, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pshaw.

The failure in the playoffs the last two seasons has been systemic, and almost totally confined to physical failures on the field.

The main problem is that we’re paying $18M annually to a player who makes his living entirely on hitting mistake pitches. And he hasn’t seen any of those in the playoffs.

In fact, I think we can speak more generally – this team has a GM who has repeatedly bought into his players’ hype, and overpaid hilariously. For instance Ryan Dempster was last seen walking everyone in sight in the 2008 playoffs…. and we made him one of the richest non-CC pitchers last offseason.

The Yankees figured out that paying $20M/year for elite superstars like CC and Teix works a whole lot better than paying $12-18MM/year for a bunch of Fukudomes and Dempsters.

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by D98 on Aug 12, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

While you have points

I would point out that with the way that C.C. is currently pitching for the Yankees, he’s looking a might overpaid too. And take a look at the situation with the Mets. Santana has been great, but not godly, and KRod has had his issues. Putz is out for the year and wasn’t pitching too well before he went down. I mean I know most of their problems are due to all of the other random injuries they’ve accrued….

Basically, as much as I dislike Sori’s contract, there are very few players out there who I’ve watched get big pay-days and then in the year or two after, have said, “Yeah, that guy deserved that absurd contract!”

by Hilary Lee on Aug 13, 2009 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Will I get really pounded

if I say that Lou might be part of the problem? I don’t think he’s all that good, really. He’s good enough to contend but his teams have trouble with the real “money games”.
 And it may be more than just Lou, there’s a whole staff to look at.

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by Dave Pendleton on Aug 17, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Lou has built a foundation of winning

The playoffs are a crapshoot. He has won as a player and a manager. He knows how to get his teams pointed in a winning direction. Torre was a tool before things clicked with the yankee’s, and now he may never win another one again. Does that make Torre a bad manager? I don’t think so. Lou has brought the Cubs to wanting and expecting to contend every year now. I think that is huge, and I give him a lot of credit for that.

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by Cubskingdom on Aug 11, 2009 11:56 PM CDT reply actions  

True, there's no going back

to 2006, or what things were like here before the Dusty/Lou years.

The thing is, changing managers every 3-4 years isn’ t going to get the job done. I know everybody likes to fire the manager, but you’re basically starting over every few years by doing that.

I think there is far too much fatalism on the part of Cubs fans as well. It’s almost like a self-fulfilling prophecy.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 11, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

You make several good points...

…and i was always a big fan of Pinella. What’s bothered me most this year though is that he seems almost lethargic at times. I’d just like to see a little of the fire that he had when he won with Cincy in 1990. Maybe that’s asking too much of a guy who’s inching into his late 60’s.

by bluekoolaide on Aug 12, 2009 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

What is it with "fire"?

And what does it mean, really? It makes you feel better, maybe, but what does it really do for the team?

LIke I said in other posts, Tom Kelly and Cito Gaston are/were comatose on the bench. Charlie Manuel isn’t exactly a whirling Dervish. All those guys have won World Series.

I don’t give a shit if Lou does crossword puzzles during games, so long as the team wins. Yelling and screaming and acting like a moron in the dugout doesn’t get you much. See “Valentine, Bobby,” for examples.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 12, 2009 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nor does snapping at the media

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 12, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought that's want people wanted

Lou snapping at media and acting like he had “fire.”

What should he do? Run out to left field and pull Soriano by the scruff of the neck when he botches a play?

Maybe not acting like a jackass is a sign of maturity.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 12, 2009 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

What did he do tonight...

Besides waving up his arms saying “What can I do”?

by cubfanwill on Aug 12, 2009 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe it makes you feel better

if he goes out and poleaxes Marmol on the mound, but I’m not sure what it really accomplishes.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 12, 2009 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd probably fall out of my chair laughing

I’m ashamed to admit it.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 12, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I never really complained about his supposed lack of fire

I mostly complain about his senior moments, or if you don’t want to be kind, his moments of utter incompetence.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 12, 2009 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno about that first statement.

I absolutely LOVED the Lou signing, but as time has gone on, I’ve started to think (Bruce is gonna call me out on this again) of the word “senile”. I have a hard time understanding where the fire and tenacity to win went, because it sure as hell doesn’t seem to be with Lou on a daily basis. Some of his managerial decisions over the years (especially late in games) has made me wonder, “I thought this was one of the best baseball minds around!” These days I’m not so sure.

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by dtpollitt on Aug 12, 2009 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Let me get this straight

12 innings. The Phillies get THREE hits, on base 8 times all game.

The Cubs get 10 hits, on base 17 times in this game.

And Philly wins 4-3???? Oy Vey…

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by MrNFL on Aug 12, 2009 12:11 AM CDT reply actions  

This team is pathetic...

Hey, all you blind optimists out there. You think the Mets choked the last couple of years? They’ve won as many playoff games as the Cubs. And don’t tell me at least they made the playoffs…because it doesn’t matter if you can’t even win 1 game.

How in the blue hell can you get 3 runs on 10 hits? Philadelphia got 4 runs on 3 hits.

How can you get 0 runs on 10 hits in Atlanta?

Marmol has no idea where the ball’s going.

How many home runs has Gregg given up on that piss ass curveball of his?

Here’s my prediction for $10 million Shark: 4 innings 5 runs 6 walks 2 strikeouts

Ryan Dempster is a great benificiary of the Chan Ho Park school…pitch a good year and strike gold. Apparantly Hendry forgot about his playoff start. Of course if Chan Ho faces the Cubs, it’s lights out.

$90 million Zambrano is a headcase who doesn’t take care of himself and by some reports does not show up to his throwing sessions…or at least show up on time.

Geo Soto is a tub of lard, and a 1 year wonder at that. That dude needs an offseason workout if he wants to keep a job.

Theriot may have the weakest arm at short in the game, unless David Eckstein is still there.

Fontenot has been exposed as an everyday player.

Finally, last year was not a success, it was a huge failure.

by cubfanwill on Aug 12, 2009 12:12 AM CDT reply actions  

That's not a vent

That’s a full-blown air conditioner or something.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 12, 2009 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

well

that doesnt belong here then!

the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY

by jesus christos on Aug 12, 2009 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're right

That’ll run up the electric bill too much. The economy’s bad, man. Use some fans.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 12, 2009 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Better yet

Just get a block of ice and put it in the middle of the room. Sit next to it and let the radiant cold rub off on you. Old school all the way.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 12, 2009 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have lots of frustration with this team...

Come on NBF, you have to realize that this team has serious flaws. Just look at this objectively, do you really think the Cubs can catch the Cards?

by cubfanwill on Aug 12, 2009 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not without Aramis Ramirez in the lineup

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 12, 2009 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I do

Because I don’t think the Cubs are as bad as they’ve played at times this year. I also don’t think the Cardinals are as good. Unlike a lot of Cubs fans, I don’t have this fear of all things Redbird.

It’s a three-game deficit, for Christ’s sakes. The White Sox are three games out, too, and their fans seem to think they have a legitimate chance of winning their division.

I think a lot of Cubs fans are pathetic because they fold at the first sign of adversity. They are not the kind of people I’d want beside me in a foxhole if we were fighting a war, unfortunately. The most neurotic fan base in professional sports, without a doubt.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 12, 2009 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I respectfully disagree with you...

Blindless optimism is what bothers me about many Cub fans. There are too many signs saying “It’s gonna happen” put that crap away. How do you know it’s gonna happen? For all we know, we all may be dead before this team wins another championship.

Last year was a perfect example. Many assumed the Cubs would blow through the playoffs and get to the World Series. Look how that turned out.

As far as catching St. Louis, can it happen? Sure it can. However, it’s very difficult when your closer has 2 pitches, and 1 of them normally gets hit a long ways, your ace set up man has no idea where his pitches are going, and a big inning for the offense is 2 runs.

by cubfanwill on Aug 12, 2009 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good points, Brucey.

However, I have yet to see a string of victories that makes me think, “Hmph, this is a playoff-ready team”. Those teams take advantage of quality starts, 6+ hits in a game, put down bunts when they need to, etc. Last year’s team I felt supremely confident in that squad’s ability to win with authority, play smart baseball, and work as a cohesive unit. I feel none of that in 2009.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 12, 2009 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

No.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 12, 2009 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here's the thing, DP,

all of that stuff from last year? What did it get them in the postseason?

You never know, really.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 12, 2009 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well said...

…and it is a fact that every game is scrutinized way way too much during the regular season.

The Cubs have holes but so do the Cards and no one is going to run and hide with 50 or so games to go. The Cubs need to get healthy, and they need to get mentally prepared for the final push.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Aug 12, 2009 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Adding Peavy and Rios

will do that for you. All we have is multiple injuries and a manager that keeps mentioning all the injuries. Enough, win games

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by Grockcubs on Aug 12, 2009 6:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

the cubs can pull their heads out of their asses, yes, they can

the cardinals rely on soley on carpenter and pujols

the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY

by jesus christos on Aug 12, 2009 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

um, what?

the cardinals get contributions from everybody on the team. i mean, even julio lugo does damage.

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by buckmulligan on Aug 12, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Buck,

I think you’re setting yourself up to become a Cardinals fan. I wish you well.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 12, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Will these hits turn into runs?

And if they don’t, will Cubs Nation survive sane?

by cubbybear on Aug 12, 2009 12:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Find out next time on Dragonball Z!

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 12, 2009 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

I blame Lou on this one,

has he even noticed Marmol being wild this year? Yeah, lets pull him after he walks in a batter. Geez, I don’t blame him for trying to keep throwing him out there, but after that horrid 1-2 pitch that hit the batter, that was his cue that the wildness would continue.

Lou, ever here of a short leash?

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by KaliCub on Aug 12, 2009 12:23 AM CDT reply actions  

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY

by jesus christos on Aug 12, 2009 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

DAMN STRAIGHT

the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY

by jesus christos on Aug 12, 2009 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't beat that rant.

Western Wisconsin says, “Goodnight”

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by Cubskingdom on Aug 12, 2009 12:41 AM CDT reply actions  

The Cubs sure are good at breaking spirits...

They get your hopes up real high, and then they crash and burn and are stomped with a steel-toed big ass boot.

Here’s a question:

Are you glad you’re a Cubs fan? Think about all the misery they’ve given you over the years, without much in return.

Boy those playoff sweeps still drive me nuts.

by cubfanwill on Aug 12, 2009 12:48 AM CDT reply actions  

That's a resounding YES!

Maybe as a loyal Cubs fan I’m the pathetic eternal optimist, but yes, it will pay off in the end, and it will be the sweetest of sweet victories. Because all the years of pain and suffering and hardships only make it more rewarding in the end.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 12, 2009 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I hope you're right Dan...

The problem is there’s no guarantee we’ll get to see that in our lifetime.

by cubfanwill on Aug 12, 2009 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

You said it perfectly.

Chicago
Cubs

We are the better CC.

by Zy Toro Young on Aug 12, 2009 1:45 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

the playoff sweeps don't really bother me that much.

i guess i don’t have this fixation on the world series that other cubs fans have. the key is to keep getting to the playoffs—eventually a championship will come. if we don’t make the playoffs this year, and i don’t expect us to, i will be much more pissed off about this year than last year.

"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Aug 12, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

absolutely

I am glad I’m a cubs fan. Because when we win it all, it will be THAT MUCH SWEETER.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Aug 12, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Drew, I agree with that

and have said it myself. But this sour taste I have had in my mouth these last 40 some years is getting old. My Mother died in her 80’s last year and never got to see a Cubs Championship. I don’t want someone to say the same thing about me lol

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by BigJohnAZ on Aug 12, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am convinced

that when the Cubs win the World Series, the world will end.

by HardForharden on Aug 12, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, then they must be about ready to win it

because the signs are definitely out there.

"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.

by Goodie1969 on Aug 12, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate bad drivers

and close-minded individuals.

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by DTJchris on Aug 12, 2009 1:02 AM CDT reply actions  

I hate that

I go into every game with feelings of dread, as opposed to feelings of optimism like last year.

I hate that living in Lakeview near Wrigley is not nearly as fun this summer as it was last year.

I hate that I’m thinking of taking my signed Carlos Marmol hat off my wall because he PISSES ME OFF SO MUCH.

I hate that when I saw Geo buying Kraft Mac & Cheese before the playoffs it appears to have been THE ONLY THING HE ATE IN THE OFF SEASON

I hate that the Cubs have been SO MADDENINGLY INCONSISTENT that I even got the idea of plugging in our offensive production vs. temperature into a spreadsheet

I hate that I COULD HAVE A HIGHER .OPS than Aaron Miles and I play CATCHER in a KICKBALL LEAGUE

Most of all, I hate, that no matter how much they piss me off or make me cry, I will never be able to stop being a Cubs fan.

by Hilary Lee on Aug 12, 2009 1:24 AM CDT reply actions  

Well put

I hope last season didn’t spoil Cubs fans too much, though.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 12, 2009 1:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think it

spoiled me from a baseball perspective, but perhaps from a living in Lakeview perspective. I moved up there at the start of the summer last year, and the mood in the area was just totally different than it is now. I think because the Cubs were doing so fantastically well for much of the season, baseball was being followed more generally than it is this year. Also, we had a relatively nice summer weather wise last year, and it’s been pretty crappy this year so that might have something to do with it too…

by Hilary Lee on Aug 12, 2009 1:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well said...

That’s exactly how I feel. Once you’re bitten by that Cubs bug, there’s no going back.

by cubfanwill on Aug 12, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

If Aaron Miles is on this team next year

I will take up another hobby. I’ll still keep an eye on standings and such, but I don’t think I can watch game after game like I do now.

I realize Miles isn’t really the biggest problem and I also realize, bless him, that he’s trying his best.

But it’s the biggest symbol of stupidity, futility and mediocrity we have this year.

And yes, I reserve the right to jump back on. Deal with it.

The Cubs are here to entertain me. I am providing them my time, energy and in some cases, money (I rarely go to games, but buy T-shirts and jerseys and stuff)

If Aaron Miles is the best they can do, I will treat it like I treat a movie with a star I don’t like, or that looks stupid.

If someone tells me the movie is good in spite of that, I’ll give it a chance.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Aug 12, 2009 7:06 AM CDT reply actions  

AARON MILES SUCKS!!!!!!!!!

ADAM LIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Randy Wells. A product of the Roy Halladay School of Pitching, located in Toronto, Canada. Possible relocation.

by Cub Style on Aug 12, 2009 9:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Aaron Miles = cookies?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 12, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Upon closer inspection...

…it would appear that Aaron Miles is actually three churros and two sticks of cinnamon. That would explain the poor BA, anyway.

Lou needs to take a bite out of Miles!

by Flatley on Aug 12, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh man

I’m on a diet, and churros sound so good right now..

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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

no more need to vent

in my opinion, this is one of those teams that just isn’t going to get it done. They have been every bit as frustrating as 2004, if not more. They just find ways to lose—period.

So, for me, I release my expectations that they are going to win 90 games and take the division. They just don’t have the make-up of a team to do it. I will enjoy watching the games more and rooting for them, but they have left me no choice but to lower my expectations for the remainder of this year.

If one thing is more clear than ever, Hendry does not know how to construct a 25-man roster as we have gaping holes every year. I wouldn’t mind seeing him let go and the end of this year along wiht Lou.

by socalbob on Aug 12, 2009 10:13 AM CDT reply actions  

I've been a Cub fan since the early 70's...

…so you’d think I’d have gotten used to the emotional rollercoaster that goes with living and dying with them. Still, it never gets easy. I honestly don’t think they have what it takes to get it done this year. And, no, that’s not ledge jumping or pessimism-it’s my honest assessment based on what I’ve observed all year. However, I still find myself watching every game and hoping for any kind of a sign that they’re suddenly going to “put it together” and go on a run. If they don’t (and things certainly don’t look encouraging at this point), I’ll be disappointed, angry, etc., and I’ll temporarily throw my sports passion behind the Blackhawks and Bears.

And then, come next Feb., I’ll be back again, hope at least briefly rekindled. I couldn’t stop caring about this team if I tried. Somewhere along the way, the Cubs became encoded with my DNA.

Besides, what’s the big deal about winning the World Series anyway? It’s not like it would make me love them any more.

by bluekoolaide on Aug 12, 2009 10:34 AM CDT reply actions  

Well said...

summed up my thoughts on the matter very well…this team just doesn’t have “it” whatever that “it” is…we keep hoping and in July it looked like it might be falling into place, but its not going to happen this year.

"Cub fans like to think of things in catastrophic terms." - Crane Kenney

by NashvilleBlue on Aug 12, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

my grandpa

told me that being a Cub fan is a genetic disorder passed from generation to generation—this was in the early 80’s after I was already hooked for 10 years!

by socalbob on Aug 12, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

World Series?

then you would know everything about baseball like Red Sox fan. We know nothing until our team wins one .

by socalbob on Aug 12, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I see your point, but . . .
Besides, what’s the big deal about winning the World Series anyway? It’s not like it would make me love them any more.

My father, who is the single biggest reason that I am a Cubs fan, will be 76 this year. I want them to win while he is stil around.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can relate Badger

My dad just turned 80 a few weeks ago. He turned me into a diehard in the early 70’s. I, too, would love to see them win for his sake. But, to be honest, I really try not to think too much about that because then I start to REALLY get depressed.

by bluekoolaide on Aug 12, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

+19291933

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

iswydt

Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton

by KaliCub on Aug 12, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of fathers,

mine was born in 1906 so at least he was here for the last 2 Series victories. Will I ever get mine ? LOL

by If we only had Hubbs on Aug 12, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

EVEN AFTER TUESDAY and WEDNESDAY

Nights games my wife still had to get in ( Bet you still go to Mesa) …..We go through this every year and still hang in there . Things have to change at the top first . Can’t wait until they do.

by cubs north on Aug 12, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

DFA

Miles and bring up Bobby Scales. After his career with the Cubs he could be a radio personality, TV sportscaster or even Mayor of Chicago.

by ChicagoRobb on Aug 12, 2009 1:52 PM CDT reply actions  

no

trade scales for LIND and HALLIDAY

the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY

by jesus christos on Aug 12, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's start CFA (Cubs Fans Anonymous)

Hi, my name is Sean and I’m a Cubs fan

(Hi, Sean)

I’ve been a Cubs fan for some years now, it all started with just a few games, you know, all my friends were Cubs fans so I thought “If they’re doing it…” then it turned into me purchasing Extra Innings and watching nearly every game, shouting ridiculous obscenities at the TV, honestly believing they could hear me.

by CubsFan87 on Aug 12, 2009 3:02 PM CDT reply actions  

WOW.

Sounds like me …I didn’t even watch the first 2 innings tonight . ( Because I was still mad about Tuesday nights game ) . Something has to change very soon or 2009 is history .

by cubs north on Aug 12, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I only have one thing to vent

and that’s at Lou doing his old man “What do you want me to do? Ask the players?” schtick, because you know what, you senile piece of crap, YOU MANAGE THE TEAM. For anyone that brings up the impact managers have, or anytime Lou makes it sound like the loss isn’t on him, or the team performance isn’t on him, look at the Colorado Rockies. What, all of those players finally figured out a way to win without any guidance? I’m not asking for a managerial change, but I’m asking for accountability.

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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 3:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Fuck I'm really tired of this terrible play day after day after day.

Lou needs to go … he can’t get a message through to these players OMG i’m at a lost for words. I didn’t expect to sweep the Rockies or Philles, but I expected a BETTER SHOWING! I got shit

COOL BEANS!

by lexmarklover on Aug 12, 2009 8:27 PM CDT reply actions  

this game freaking sucks

GRAAAAAHH

the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY

by jesus christos on Aug 12, 2009 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

You spelt "Halladay" wrong.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 12, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are kidding right?

Otherwise it would be funny that you call someone out on a spelling error having one of your own. Spelt = Spelled. I’m just asking.

when asked about his performance against the Reds - Lieber said the following
"Well obviously I made some bad pitches today, left to many over the plate and they got good wood on the ball. The only good thing was that I was able to get back into the clubhouse earlier then I planned so I could eat."

by 1060 W Addison on Aug 17, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

If I added “/sarcasm” to it, would that help?

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 18, 2009 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

I KNOW THATT

IDOIT

the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY

by jesus christos on Aug 17, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unintentionally funny

You purposely misspelled “idiot”, but in the context of owning up to a mistake. It could read “I DO IT”.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 17, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh

the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY

by jesus christos on Aug 17, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck this

I’ll bet the Phillies score 10 more runs as I write this. Its a damn joke. You throw Jeff freaking Samardzija against the best offense in baseball and then just for fun Sean Marshall comes in and gives up 33 freaking runs.

To top all this off? Pedro fucking Martinez looks like he’s back in 2003 again. I would say I won’t be back, but I’ll be here bright and early tomorrow morning still cheering for this horseshit team and this horseshit season. At least in 2006 they had the dignity to suck in May so we knew it would be a lost season.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Aug 12, 2009 8:45 PM CDT reply actions  

To top all this off? Pedro fucking Martinez looks like he’s back in 2003 again.

the 2009 cubs have made the aaron heilmans of the world look like satchel paige

the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY

by jesus christos on Aug 12, 2009 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

And now I'm even more pissed

Bases loaded nobody out, 2-0 count Derrek Lee at the plate. He pops out the first. Sums up our season in one AB.

Oh and look the NL knows not to throw Jake Fox fastballs anymore.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Aug 12, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can we say season over for the Cubs?

Wait until next year. Football season can’t come soon enough.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 12, 2009 9:54 PM CDT reply actions  

See ya later

I take it you aren’t coming around here anymore, since the season is over?

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 12, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I'll be around

Never said I was leaving.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 12, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're an odd duck

I wouldn’t want to stick around if there was no point to it.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 13, 2009 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just to annoy you?

There’s still stuff to talk about here.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 13, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

How long did it take you to come up with that one?

Get over yourself, buddy.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 13, 2009 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

blou is correct

This is probably the least fun team i have ever watched in my life. They havent won a series against a team with a winning record since April. We have been decimated by injuries. We no longer can pitch. We cant hit. This team is pathetic right now and quite frankly its embarrasing to watch. We are four back now.

I cant believe that this much money has been wasted. ANd it aint getting any better. The following contracts are atrocious: Dempster, Bradley, Dome, Soriano, Miles, with the following being questionable due to injury or other situations Rammy, Z, Lee.. B lou was correct. I was hesitant to admit it at first that this team doesnt have it but it doesnt that doesnt make us bad fans it make us realists. We are probably also in the second worst postition outside the Mets. At least the Nats will most likely have Strasburg and Harper…

I really have never been this depressed watching Cubs baseball. We are officially out of our window to win.

The only way this gets better is if someone stupidly claims someof our contracts off waivers…

I had an opportunity for Dave Matthews Band or Cubs @ Nats with amazing tickets. I got my world series.. Halloween.

-Love is hell. Fuck this team

4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42

by fischisgod on Aug 12, 2009 11:33 PM CDT reply actions  

They havent won a series against a team with a winning record since April

who the hell keeps spreading that lie?

the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY

by jesus christos on Aug 12, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

brewers and astros in july

the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY

by jesus christos on Aug 13, 2009 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

and even if you argue they were a game over .500

@ the time those are terrile examples eeing how bad those teams are

4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42

by fischisgod on Aug 13, 2009 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Slit your wrists

and get it over with already, please.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 13, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good thing you don't work at a suicide hotline

You’d be fired in a minute.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 13, 2009 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

jesus christ, this is a thread DEDICATED to people venting their anger

and you STILL have a problem with it. I don’t think I’ve ever seen you do anything but personally attack people

by Illicat on Aug 13, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

whether or not you think they "have it coming" it's all I ever see you do

I’ve never seen you comment on the action of the game, only a snide response to someone else who is commenting on it. And why does every discussion with you have to devolve into insults? Is it that hard for you to just disagree?

And what is with “they have it coming” that’s like something the school yard bully in some after school special says.

You can attack me all you want. I find it silly, and if that’s how you gotta be, then there’s nothing I can do to stop it, I just think it’s absurd

by Illicat on Aug 13, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Most of the time

the game threads around here are unbearable.

And every discussion doesn’t devolve into an insult. But when the usual suspects keep making ridiculous comments, I’m not going to ignore it.

Feel free to reciprocate.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 13, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's MY vent:

Trading deadline:

We get Jeff Baker -

Cards get Julio Lugo

We get Grabow and Gorzo

Cards Get Matt Holliday

We get Ryan Freel (ok, this was before the deadline by quite a bit)

Cards get Mark DeRosa

Jim Hendry has made me throw up in my mouth again with his decisions.

Again – the Cubs had a shot at Pedro as well. But we have our Wide-out Golden Boy pitcher with two pitches. My bother?

IF the mantra was “We are going for it this year” – why is the company not standing behind this? Oh – wait – never mind…butts are in the seats anyway – and Zell is Zell.

by The E-Man on Aug 12, 2009 11:37 PM CDT reply actions  

With the luck this team has had...

Pedro would have been injured in his first start for the Cubs and be done for the season.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 12, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow

This team is just brutal to watch right now. Think I ready for some Bears preseason ball. Happy Jay Cutler day!!

by VillanuevaExperience on Aug 12, 2009 11:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Fonzi...

…is still afraid of the wall.

If only the Monster in the Ivy was real, I could see playing everything on one hop.

by LeSaboteur on Aug 13, 2009 12:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Its almost Bears season

can we just have enough with Shark as a reciever and let him catch passes…. PLEASE!!!!

4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42

by fischisgod on Aug 13, 2009 12:24 AM CDT reply actions  

50 games left, people.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 13, 2009 12:50 AM CDT reply actions  

That many?

Time to cue ol’ Frank Zappa.

The Torture Never Stops, lol.

by LeSaboteur on Aug 13, 2009 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

After taking the time to read all of this...

One thing comes to mind. I remember a scene from the movie Fever Pitch. Jimmy Fallon was sitting with all of his season ticket holding Red Sox fans in the midst of a venting session like we are doing now. He said that even though the Red Sox have broken their hearts year after year he made a reference to his personal relationship to his girlfriend. Fallon said that the Red Sox or the Cubs in our case is a relationship that never ends because our team will be there for us every spring. It’s a relationship that never ends because we are always there for our team and they are always there for us, win or lose.

I am personally frustrated like all of you for the inconsistentcy the Cubs have had all year. But I always keep my head high and see the silver lining or find a meaning. I realize all of you are thinking that it looks like there is no hope for the Cubs right now or very little; and if you base it all on history you have nothing to worry about. But for me and hopefully some of you Bleed Cubbie Blue die-hards, I will say this about “basing it on history”:

Every time the Cubs have an amazing summer and all of us Believe “It’s Gonna Happen”, we get ahead of ourselves and before you know it the Cubs send us through the slaughter factory again because the players get tired and run out of gas MOST OF THE TIME (1969, 2008, etc.). Other times, yes it’s been bad luck (1984, 2003, etc.).

This year, nobody seems to believe in the Cubs or any decision that has been made or hasn’t been made by Lou or Hendry and that’s understandable. But I believe that the Cubs are still in this because:
A) Later this month Z, Johnson, Lilly and Ramirez will be coming back from injury.
B) The injuries have been a blessing because we’ve gotten to see the depth of the Cubs and their farm system keep them in The Hunt in an inconsistent fashion AND an injury gives one rest time so there would be no excuse for the Cubs to get tired by the end of the season.
C) Since some Cub fans are sort of shutting down their hopes, the old adage will come true… that adage saying: everyone is afraid to jump off the bandwagon because then the team will turn around and go all the way (nobody said they’re jumping off they’re just looking forward to football).
D) What can I say, I’m a die-hard. I never stop believing until the Cubs are mathematically eliminated from contention (not mentally eliminated from contention). Even after elimination, I’m still believing, the way it should be, hence the “Blindless Optimism” that some of you may post from this novel of a tangent of venting by me (thanks for reading this far, it’s almost done!). Hey, I’ll still root root root for the Cubbies win or lose (that’s love) but I won’t say “It’s Gonna Happen” after being eliminated (that’s blindless optimism).

In conclusion, there’s 50 games left, there’s still time. The Cubs can still win, even if it’s ugly. You just never know, that’s why they play all 162 games. I know all of you are going to try and remind me about everything that has been Cubs baseball in 2009. I don’t care, I’ve read everything above. Miracles happen everyday. We can all either vent about it, or have fun with it, just believe. Also, if the Cubs can hang in there going into late September, they go up against St.Louis, Milwaukee twice (NL Central), San Francisco (NL Wild-Card) and then a couple of basement teams at home. Will you be there to root for the Cubbies in contention or not? I know I will. Play Ball!!!

"Oh baby!" - Len Casper

by #1 iowan cubs fan on Aug 13, 2009 3:45 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

I hate lots of things but today I am keeping it positive

because my father in law is having open heart surgery as I type. Any other day, I would be so in.

Positive…positive…

Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?

by Kinky Reggae on Aug 13, 2009 9:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Good luck KR

Hope he makes it through.

Pop quiz…would you rather have open heart sugery once a week for the rest of your life, or have to watch that 3 game pukefest against the Phillies over and over for the rest of your life.

Answer: Where’s the scalpel?

I have nothing funny or creative to write.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Aug 13, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is home and doing well, thanks!

I have to side with you now that I have born witness to several other pukefests! This season is over, BRING ON DA BEARS!

Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?

by Kinky Reggae on Aug 21, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

this game sucks too

ahhhh

the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY

by jesus christos on Aug 13, 2009 3:29 PM CDT reply actions  

I was curcumcised at the age of 8 days,

and I’d rather be re-circumcised every eighth day then watch this team on a daily basis. I watched damn near every game last season; this season, not so much. I don’t know if I’ve watched more than 3 games from beginning to end this year, and it’s a good thing that I haven’t.
I love this fucking team, but boy do I hate it.

by dakoose on Aug 13, 2009 4:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Why am I so frustrated?

I seriously knew exactly what would happen today yet for some reason I still watched the game. This team is beyond frustrating to watch… First of all, can someone please tell me why Bradley was batting 3rd today and why Soriano is still in the lineup? Bradley has proved he cannot hit in the 3, 4 or 5 hole and that he CAN hit in the 2 hole. Soriano has proved he can’t hit anywhere. Does Lou not realize this? And one more thing. What the hell has happened to Dempster? This guy hasn’t been good all year. I remember last year whenever he pitched, especially at home, he was money. Near guarantee win. Now I have as much confidence in him as I did when he was our closer.

It just sucks that this team gets all of our hopes up only to not live up to the hype.

Lou needs to be fired. He has proven that he cannot take the pressure in Chicago and that he has lost nearly all of his “brillant” baseball knowledge. This team is like a hot girlfriend that keeps pissing you off: you always fight and argue and swear that you hate her, but the second you catch a glimpse of what could be, you fall in love all over again.

Sorry if this is lengthy but living in AZ i have no one to vent to other than myself so its cool to come on here and do it with fans.

by fighterofthenightman on Aug 14, 2009 2:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Venting alone

Dear fighterofthenightman,

I’m in Connecticut and my beautiful wife has to watch me go through this every year. Thank the Lord for Al and this post. If you are out there Al, I do have a question. Why would Hendry take away 40% of a 97 game winning team? It was obvious to me that last year, the pressure got to them. One year of seasoning probably would have got the Cubs a WS or much closer than 2008.

by questdoc on Aug 14, 2009 6:57 AM CDT reply actions  

That's a good question.

I don’t have an answer, unfortunately.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 14, 2009 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Because, ultimately, that team failed

And ultimately, the guys who still are here from last year underperformed this year. Unless you think one of the new additions spread a bad-baseball virus or something.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 14, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

And, of course he would now be called

“Do-Nothing” Hendry by Blue Mike had he stood pat with the 2008 Cubs into the following year.
You know that would be the refrain here if that was the case.

There’s no way to please anybody.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 16, 2009 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Of course

I know this season hasn’t been up to our liking, but the recreational bitching by many Cubs fans gets extremely old. (Just listen to the WGN call-in shows since, basically, opening day.)

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 16, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

“Do-Nothing" Hendry by Blue Mike

i thought it was do-nut(thing) hendry

the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY

by jesus christos on Aug 16, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holy Hell!

Who are these people?! And by people, I mean the 25-man Active Roster for our Chicago Cubs. I over sleep, miss the game, and they put up 17-runs!?

I know it’s “just” the Pirates, but, man, that would’ve been nice to see.

C’est la guerre, mes amis. I’ll just have to go watch the A’s beat up on the Southsiders tonight.

by LeSaboteur on Aug 14, 2009 4:10 PM CDT reply actions  

SCREW YOU GREGG

GAAAAAAHHHHH

the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY

by jesus christos on Aug 17, 2009 11:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Need a lot of new things for next year

New pen, new manager, new general manager…

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 18, 2009 12:00 AM CDT reply actions  

I hate to say it...

But BLou was right.

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on Aug 18, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Let's start...

…with a real good GM, and let him decide what needs to be done – that is the key.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Aug 18, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

wtf

I love love LOVE when we are dominating a team the entire night and gregg sets up a fucking tee for them in the 9th. Ya we had no offense but it doesn’t help that we have the most unreliable closer in baseball. Fuck this team

by fighterofthenightman on Aug 18, 2009 12:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Banish Kevin Gregg To The Back Of The Pen NOW

This team will NOT make the playoffs with this guy as closer. Period.

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Aug 18, 2009 12:05 AM CDT reply actions  

Hi, my name is Lance, and I'm a Cubs fan.

I keep repeating that in my head, but it’’s not helping. My chip from 2003 is weathered, and my neighbors are starting to talk to the other neighbors about the tattered “W” flag I keep out back as a relic of game 4. My chip from 2007 is gone, I cashed it in for a “Kyle Orton is our QB” t-shit at bears camp last year… as you can see, I’m a bit of a devoted fan. My chip from 2008 is still here. I look at it from time to time, with fond memories of the regular season. I think of Mark DeRosa, and Aramis Ramirez… playing a bunch of games… I remember solid middle relief, and an 8th inning man that made the All Star team. As a matter of fact, I remember 7 or 8 All Stars, all ultimately on a winning team. I team that won, and then lost… and then as such, I cash in my 2008 chip, for a Jay Cutler jersey. I cash in my memories, on a guy that’s already thrown 5 of 10 passes for completions, and one of those an interception… because you know what? No matter how hard it gets… no matter how many games back, no matter how negative the media… I’m a god damned Chicago sports fan, and a Cubs fan to the end. And I TRUST Kevin Gregg will throw better (in another city, preferable Des Moines) and I trust Alfonso Soriano will hit for average (before the post season, of course, when he’s 0 for the century) and god damnit I trust my Cubs will make up the difference, mount a comeback, and make this one hell of a ride, hopefully to bring us to the postseason! At which time they’ll promptly lose 3 in a row, we’ll all be cheering on the Bears (as if this year never happened) and all talking about the new manager and the fantastic post season acquisitions to come!

Kidding aside, Gregg needs to go. Experiment over. I’d feel better about Marmol out there every day… at least I KNOW he’s has success with this team. I’m not giving up, Cubs fans… but my faith is wavering. Let’s get it together, here.

by lswaidz on Aug 18, 2009 12:13 AM CDT reply actions  

It all blows

Getting chances with men in scoring position and not getting a hit. It seems that the Cubs hate to score but seem to hate to score with 2 outs and a man on 2nd or 3rd or God forbid bases loaded . Then Kevin watch me give up a few homeruns a game Gregg seems to find his way back on the field without question. All in all I cant even think because im so pissed. It all boils down to Jim Henry sucks Cardinal balls

by bigshortyskater on Aug 18, 2009 12:29 AM CDT reply actions  

The only thing

that I think keeps alot of Cubs fans going is the simple fact that there are enough games for a miracle to happen, for this team to, by the Grace of God, catch fire, and for the lead in the division or in the Wild Card, again by the Grace of God, open up and allow the Cubs to slip in.

I say this because I personally have lost every bit of faith in this team. And yeah, I do get angry at those who do have faith in this team simply because I can’t understand it, but that’s their God given right

I don’t think I have ever seen a closer blow a game with two outs and two strikes on a hitter as many times as Gregg has this season.

The Cubs’ avg w/RISP speaks for itself.

by CubsFan87 on Aug 18, 2009 12:30 AM CDT reply actions  

enough to make you sick

I for some reason seem to think he will through most of the time and like clock work 2 out 2 stikes games over.

by bigshortyskater on Aug 18, 2009 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rickets !!!!!!!!!! stop *&^% around.

by bigshortyskater on Aug 18, 2009 12:42 AM CDT reply actions  

AAARGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 18, 2009 12:59 AM CDT reply actions  

It was worse in person.

And truly, Monday night was like a mini-1984. Like then, I was seated in LF.

You knew it was going to happen.

It started to happen.

It happened.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 18, 2009 3:10 AM CDT reply actions  

Maybe

you shouldn’t sit in left field anymore. :-)

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 18, 2009 3:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Starting to get them late season blues....

You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein

by eths on Aug 18, 2009 6:55 AM CDT reply actions  

And how to fix them?

You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein

by eths on Aug 18, 2009 6:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

hell yeah

the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY

by jesus christos on Aug 18, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, me next

I feel better already.

Now, LET’S GO CUBS!

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Aug 19, 2009 12:29 AM CDT reply actions  

It's like 2006 snuck in again .. just as the Surge started ..

It quickly Swooned. Only Derrek Lee didn’t break his arm this year.

Well, the law of averages, the outrages of Wild Card proximity, and the clearly turbulent waters of the league mean anything can still happen. Who knows but that another Surge might vomit upwards and turn into an epic come back ..

But I will say this. Two losses to the Pads are not exactly encouraging

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Aug 19, 2009 12:33 AM CDT reply actions  

The Cubs...

…should not have to rely on Aram’s bat all the time. We need some guys who are “contact reliable” instead of being tooled to the home run.

by LeSaboteur on Aug 19, 2009 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's not the ads themselves...

…. there are server issues across SBN. The tech people are aware of them and are working on it.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 19, 2009 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

gotcha, thanx Al

Even with the slow download speeds there ain’t no other place I’d rather BCB.

by CaliCub on Aug 19, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

These last two losses against the Padres have gutted me

like nothing else for ages. It has sapped so much energy out of me.

I thought we’d get blown away from the Dodgers at the worst, but the Padres? At least it gave their suffering fans something to smile about. I really mean it, I’m glad someone enjoyed it in a postitive manner, rather than Cubs haters rejoicing at our suckiness.

by AussieCub on Aug 19, 2009 5:24 AM CDT reply actions  

It's nearly 5 AM and I'm still so mad I don't even know where to start

Oh, no, wait, I do know…I’ll start with the handful of rotten ass posters who would rather troll than TRY to root for this team. If the Cubs get a hit, they’re trolling Drew, and if they’re losing, they’re trolling everyone else. I don’t know if I’m stepping over a line here, and if I am, this can be deleted, but for goodness sakes, get rid of these people. What, in all honesty, do they bring here that isn’t any type of trolling effort. I just don’t get.

What I also don’t get is our teams manager. Sue mentioned him being senile and getting blasted for that. I’ve been saying that for awhile now, and I agree with her completely. He is senile, he is done, I don’t care about his history, HE’S DONE. Lou, your career as a manager is over. Do the right thing and step down. At this point, I’ve now come to the conclusion we’re probably not making the post season, and it’s not because of Hendry, or even Miles, wait, it is his fault too, but mainly, we’re not making the post because of Lou. Here’s one I’ve been saving in my back pocket, Sweet Lou has gone sour. How about that? Someone, ANYONE on this team needs to be a fucking man and step up and put an end to this nonsense. I don’t care if that’s D Lee, Lilly, or anyone else, any time Lou goes to PH the wrong f’n guy, first off, that guy needs to say NO, and secondly, the rest of the team needs to say NO. This may all sound nuts, but if you can’t even stand up to the man who has steered this ship into the cliffs, then why even bother playing the rest of the games this season?

I’m still happy to be a fan, I’ll still be there in the bleachers on 9/2, I’ll still buy hats and shirts, I’ll still watch them on my TV, and I’ll still post here. None of that will ever change. What has changed though is my belief that this team still has something left. Well, unfortunately that’s not a reality because Lou has sucked the life out of this team to power his crusty old man body for another year.

www.facebook.com/craighudak

by Craig in South Bend on Aug 21, 2009 3:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Some things never seem to change

But still we don’t stop believing…

You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein

by eths on Aug 21, 2009 6:58 AM CDT reply actions  

I hate football.

"Fasten your seatbelts"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Aug 25, 2009 9:02 AM CDT reply actions  

You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein

by eths on Aug 25, 2009 1:06 PM CDT reply actions  

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