Baseball And Human Nature: Cubs vs. Phillies Preview, Wednesday 8/12, 7:05 CT
by Al Yellon on Aug 12, 2009 5:00 PM CDT
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PrintBob Brenly has become a popular announcer in his five seasons (yikes, can it really be five seasons already?) paired with Len Kasper on WGN and CSN. Part of this is because he's never pulled punches about criticizing Cubs players for what he thinks is a lack of hustle. I'm not posting this to campaign for Brenly as manager, because being able to manage 25 players effectively (and, granted, he did that in winning a World Series with the Diamondbacks) and talking glibly about baseball on television are two very different skills.
I bring this up because a Paul Sullivan article in today's Tribune specifically praises Brenly for this, and asks what reaction it gets in the clubhouse:
"What will it take to get these guys to start running hard?" Brenly asked aloud in Denver after Ryan Theriot barely scored ahead of Bradley getting thrown out trying to stretch a single. Brenly also suggested a "cattle prod" might do the trick.
Brenly's blunt analysis is one reason why he's one of the most popular announcers in Chicago. But it sometimes can rankle players and coaches.
Brenly has a point, absolutely. But this quote from Theriot is the most interesting thing in the article:
"I have a lot of respect for Bob," he said. "Obviously, we're not winning ballgames, and maybe instead of pointing a finger at one particular player, it's easier to [criticize the team], and probably easier on the players to do that. I know I prepare the same way, and have prepared the same way since 2005. On getaway day, yeah, we didn't have much intensity that day. I'll agree with him on that one. It was kind of a lull, a blah feeling."
"Those long road trips, sometimes they those long ones do that to you. We were [in Denver] there five days, a three-city road trip and you haven't been in your bed a while. Sometimes that happens. That's only human nature."
Huh. Human nature affecting the way a human being plays baseball? Why, I thought they were automatons, performing exactly the way statistics on a stat sheet say they will, every single time they pitch, bat, run the bases or field. At least, that's what I've been told.
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In all the time Pedro Martinez spent with the Mets -- four full seasons -- he made only one start vs. the Cubs, and it also marked the last time he was on a major league mound, last September 25 in New York. The Mets won the game after a bullpen meltdown ruined a Rich Harden start. (Does this sound familiar?) Martinez is 3-3, 4.71 lifetime vs. the Cubs, but all of those starts (except last year's) were in his Expos days, 1997 and before, so they're irrelevant. Alfonso Soriano is one of his main victims -- 7-for-43 with 15 strikeouts -- but that's from Pedro's Boston days, where he was dominant. I don't expect him to be that way tonight.
Jeff Samardzija is making his first major league start. He's 1-1, 7.36 in three career relief appearances vs. the Phillies. I don't think I have to remind you about the last one, where he gave up a game-winning HR to Jayson Werth in Philadelphia on July 21.
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Huh. Human nature affecting the way a human being plays baseball? Why, I thought they were automatons, performing exactly the way statistics on a stat sheet say they will, every single time they pitch, bat, run the bases or field. At least, that’s what I’ve been told.
No one’s ever told you that Al. That’s a strawman of your own creation, that you constantly feel the need to beat up on.
by Wreckard on Aug 12, 2009 5:04 PM CDT reply actions 15 recs
I wish I could rec this 100 times
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. -- Bruce Bartlett
Well he did come out of left field on that one,
but there are those stat obsessed people out there that only argue numbers on a sheet. Not a complete strawman, but a unnecessary jab anyway.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
I'd like to meet one of those
As I believe they’re as rare a breed as a LH 3B and have such a minimal voice that it’s hardly EVER heard.
" I hate that lady , but would totally do her. So strange is this mind of mens." - Skisgaar Skwigelf
by Rage and Grace on Aug 12, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd hate to speak for Al, but
from what I’ve seen is some like to go to BR and cite examples of past performance and say thats the way it always will be. I have a big problem with projections.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
TWSS
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
it took me a second to swydt
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Ignore them
Use ZIPs, MARCEL, CHONE. Any other system. PECOTA isn’t the end all be all, not even in the world of stats.
" I hate that lady , but would totally do her. So strange is this mind of mens." - Skisgaar Skwigelf
by Rage and Grace on Aug 12, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
projections are guesses based on past, nothing says that the past will repeat itself in MLB
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
(dying laughing)
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. -- Bruce Bartlett
by berselius on Aug 12, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1, rec'd
"Nice to hear some cheers for once," Bradley said. "I didn't come here to suck. I know I've sucked so far, but give me some love, you know what I'm saying? I am a Cub."
rec all day
I do not have any problem with those who want to live in the land of projections, I personally do not and will not. There are projections that are damn near spot on, and others are so horribly wrong it shows that it is a guessing game.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
I bet you think all weathermen should be out of a job too
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. -- Bruce Bartlett
if you say so
I am not here to argue, I said my opinion and way. The same people who like to run with the projections, cannot explain why they are wrong often as well……Rich Hill was to battle for the Cy Young the same yaer he fell apart according to the projections.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
of course they
can explain it. The explanation is that Rich Hill had major mechanical problems. He also apparently had major shoulder issues.
which shows that
projections are educated guesses, right? you are guessing that a player will do “x” and if “y” happens, then there is a reason to allow for the projection to be scrapped and we can move along pretending it doesnt exist? come on, you cannot have it both ways.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Yes they are EDUCATED guesses
What else are you going to use?
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. -- Bruce Bartlett
so
we are supposed to go “based on a ton of evidence I predict player A will produce in a range of X to Y, unless of course he dies, in that case all projections are flawed because we can’t have it both ways”
does that make sense
No one who points to projections is going to say they're right 100% of the time
What we do say, though is what’s MOST LIKELY to happen. Plus, it’s all we really have. The Cubs (and other clubs) have access to professional scouts who can tell them whether someone is having issues with mechanics or something. But both of them cannot exist in a vacuum
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. -- Bruce Bartlett
so it is an educated guess
based off the information you ahve access to, since there are factors which you cannot take into consideration.
i am not saying that they are useless, but that they are not perfected and accurate all the time.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
and who is claiming that they are?
All we’re saying is that, based on all sorts of data, this is what is most likely to happen. Of course you’re going to be wrong sometimes, but most of the time you’re going to be right. No one is right 100% of the time
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. -- Bruce Bartlett
unless your name is HAL
oh wait…. watch the rest of the movie.
who the hell
is claiming they are 100 % accurate
show me!
Yeah...we need some statistics to back that claim up.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
and projections
of how many comments here are accurate, how many are trolling, and how many are SWL photoshop
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
and when wrong
the defensive attack, such as you are showing here, is what happens when called out for it. when right its cuz its cuz the person making the projection is a god so to speak.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
What are you even talking about?
"Nice to hear some cheers for once," Bradley said. "I didn't come here to suck. I know I've sucked so far, but give me some love, you know what I'm saying? I am a Cub."
The government healthcare bill i believe.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
the political talk will stop NOW
(dying laughing)
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. -- Bruce Bartlett
Savor it!
" I hate that lady , but would totally do her. So strange is this mind of mens." - Skisgaar Skwigelf
by Rage and Grace on Aug 12, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
did you read what i replied to
I am saying, for those who didnt read, that those who want to use projections get defensive when they are wrong and it is pointed out, and people are doing that now….
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
What projection was pointed out as wrong in this thread?
"Nice to hear some cheers for once," Bradley said. "I didn't come here to suck. I know I've sucked so far, but give me some love, you know what I'm saying? I am a Cub."
Our fancy stats didn't predict Rich Hill's collapse, WF
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. -- Bruce Bartlett
actually
i think BP has a “collapse” percentage in their projections.
that is one example
and, in typical fashion, those who live and die by projections are defensive about it
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
the problem
is you are misunderstanding what projections are. And you are really missing the point as to what we think they mean.
no I do know what they are
but I understand that projections and realitty are not always the same.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
great
you and everyone else with a brain…….
I think you are confusing defensiveness
for trying to explain what went wrong with the projection. The second one is an important thing to do because it helps you make improvements.
This projection was off because… isn’t necessarily defensive, it’s part of working to improve the system.
It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.
by shake n bake on Aug 12, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
the defensive i am talking about
is the inability to accept that not everyone looks at projections and accepts them as what to expect. if that were the case they would feed the numbers into a computer and give you the champions.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
they'd feed in the numbers and give you probabilitys of different champions
if anyone tells you a projection has to come true/be right they don’t understand stats. Like mentioned above they are well-educated guesses.
It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.
by shake n bake on Aug 12, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions
what exactly
have you proven them to be “wrong” about?
AUGH!!!
I am going to project that we will have projected stats of players that are wrong, and those who make projections will have a million reasons why they were wrong, without accepting that projectiosn are educated guesses, and continue to be defensive when it is mentioned as such.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
wow
you are going to project that projections can be off?
by how much? how often? any outside reasons?
generalize much?
over/under?
"Nice to hear some cheers for once," Bradley said. "I didn't come here to suck. I know I've sucked so far, but give me some love, you know what I'm saying? I am a Cub."
What are....things you ask a prostitute?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
50/50
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by that much
this often, and the reasons are “x” factors I cannot provide you, cuz i dont have access
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
i really think
use stat folk need to post a friendly (and i mean this) fanpost about stats and how to use them and what they mean
there is a TON of misunderstanding/misrepresentation on this blog about them
good point
people tend to dismiss that which they do not know. I’ve come a long way in this regard. There are some great data to either confirm your suspicions or change them.
I would read it
Honest.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
so would i
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
If it wasn't gross to bring a laptop into a bathroom
so would I.
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Print out the main body
Worry about the comments later
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Discussion?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
just that they are like
a**ho***… everybody has one and everyone else’s stinks
well, I suppose he could print those comments out, then
Would be appropriate for the bathroom, I guess
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
No printer
Well, I have a printer/scanner, but I only use it for the scanner. I haven’t bought a new print cartridge in forever.
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I meant at work
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Can't
Goes to a central print station in my office.
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll print it and mail it to you...
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
we could all print one comment
and he can try to put them back together, a BCB Puzzle
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
What projections are you seeing that give you 100% outcome?
Most say player X is going to get on base 30% of the time.
Or team Y is 74% likely to win.
The only person I see predict an outcome with certainty around here is BLou.
very true
if you are being truly objective you never claim certainty.
Probably? Mostly? Overwhelmingly Likely? Yes, but not certainty.
It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.
by shake n bake on Aug 12, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Well then
next time you argue a projection, then say this player based on past performance has a 50% chance of success.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Who has made that argument? Who?
No one. The argument has been made that—based on projections—certain things are the most likely to happen. The argument has been made that ignoring the most likely outcome is pretty silly.
But no one has said that projections are 100% accurate. Well, Al has said that people have said that. But no one really said that.
"Nice to hear some cheers for once," Bradley said. "I didn't come here to suck. I know I've sucked so far, but give me some love, you know what I'm saying? I am a Cub."
by Bildo1805 on Aug 12, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I made a post on Sori hitting leadoff
and many posters, based on past experiences said that Sori could not hit anywhere else but leadoff.
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2009/5/28/892114/as-fonzie-goes
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
thanks
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
np
nice to see you around
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
with better health
comes more posting lol
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Uh,
"Nice to hear some cheers for once," Bradley said. "I didn't come here to suck. I know I've sucked so far, but give me some love, you know what I'm saying? I am a Cub."
sorry...
Looks like Drew was the only one who said he couldn’t hit anywhere else. Others said he probably shouldn’t, because he gets more chances leading off and he’s good at hitting baseballs, but looks like you had one poster there.
"Nice to hear some cheers for once," Bradley said. "I didn't come here to suck. I know I've sucked so far, but give me some love, you know what I'm saying? I am a Cub."
Well that's one, there are more out there.
It was my post that’s why I remembered it.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
"many posters"
You said many. There was one.
"Nice to hear some cheers for once," Bradley said. "I didn't come here to suck. I know I've sucked so far, but give me some love, you know what I'm saying? I am a Cub."
DTChris was another
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Are we down to monosyllabic grunts?
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
I accidentally posted without the body.
But, nice one. Your avatar of a woman from the neck to the naval shows you’d speak that language.
"Nice to hear some cheers for once," Bradley said. "I didn't come here to suck. I know I've sucked so far, but give me some love, you know what I'm saying? I am a Cub."
Don't mock my tribute to Bill Buckner. j/k :)
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
I just went thru 7 pages of comments
and I dont see what post you are talking about. Could you cite a specific one?
Ball 4!
by californiachicagoan on Aug 12, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
okay
Soriano has an OPS under .700 with runners in scoring position, he’s not a player to drive in runs.
I found his career stats from different places in the lineup, I will stick to First,
Third, and Fifth as that is where he has seen the most AB’s over his career, second and fourth are horrible and would only help to further my argument but their sample size is small so I will ignore them for this.
First: .291 .341 .548 .890 (3488 plate appearances)
Third: .258 .307 .449 .757 (696 pa)
Fifth: .268 .312 .513 .824 (626 pa)
He isn’t bad out of the 5th spot, but he is clearly better in the leadoff spot.
The team plays about .500 when he’s not in the game.
The team plays about .300 when he’s in the game batting anywhere but leadoff
The team plays about .600 when he’s in the leadoff spot.
There’s just a few.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
So?
Those posts are just pointing out that Sori has done better in the leadoff spot. Thats a historical fact. Where are the people telling you
that Sori could not hit anywhere else but leadoff.
Ball 4!
by californiachicagoan on Aug 12, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
And projecting that
Sori would never be able to hit anywhere else but leadoff based on past stats.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Again
Where are those posts? You have these mystery posts and mystery posters, but what you have actually quoted has not backed up your claims yet. Which post said that he could not hit anywhere else but leadoff, and who were the many posters that said this?
Just saying he did better in leadoff historically, and that they would rather he just stayed there is no where near saying he can not hit anywhere else but leadoff.
Ball 4!
by californiachicagoan on Aug 12, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
okay
Basically he doesn’t produce anywhere but in the leadoff spot.
moving Sori down would make the team better.
The numbers directly contradict that.
It has to do with the fact that hitting leadoff helps Soriano PLAY BETTER.
There’s 3 for you, I’m not going to keep going through it for you, I know you want to defend all stat people, and I’m not condemning all. But some use past stats to base projections saying that things will not work in the future. I think that is wrong headed.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
soriano was playing bad before he got moved down
and is not playing that well since he got moved down. logic tells me that his spot in lineup doesnt matter right now
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 12, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
But when he was doing well he was driving in many runs.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
some stats are just noise
a better way than just looking at splits would be to see if there’s been any research done about the effect of lineup spot on performance, then if there has been and they found an effect, the splits could be meaningful.
It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.
by shake n bake on Aug 12, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
You’re absolutely right players don’t follow trends at all.
" I hate that lady , but would totally do her. So strange is this mind of mens." - Skisgaar Skwigelf
by Rage and Grace on Aug 12, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd really like to know who are these "obsessed" people with statistics on BCB.
Because I don’t think there are many people, and not any I can name off the top of my head on this particular site, that are closed to qualitative analyses.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
I just don't understand
Why you feel the need to harp on this, Al? Ask any statistician, they’re not mentally retarded. Nobody things anamorphic numbers play the game of baseball. Give it a rest.
" I hate that lady , but would totally do her. So strange is this mind of mens." - Skisgaar Skwigelf
by Rage and Grace on Aug 12, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Then you clearly didn't read what was written.
The only reason I’m being ‘defensive’ is because of inane baseless attacks such as these.
" I hate that lady , but would totally do her. So strange is this mind of mens." - Skisgaar Skwigelf
by Rage and Grace on Aug 12, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
It is. As it’s been pointed out by Wreckard as well, this isn’t the first time Al has made mention of this. It’s constantly with him. NUMEROUS amounts of folks have tried to point this out but he still keeps at it. THAT is harping.
" I hate that lady , but would totally do her. So strange is this mind of mens." - Skisgaar Skwigelf
by Rage and Grace on Aug 12, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to mention,
it’s an enormous stretch to slam statistical projections in a thought about players getting up/not getting up for a particular game.
"Nice to hear some cheers for once," Bradley said. "I didn't come here to suck. I know I've sucked so far, but give me some love, you know what I'm saying? I am a Cub."
I find it easier to ignore Al when he trolls on his own site than when BLou does.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Deviating from the point.
but yeah sure.
" I hate that lady , but would totally do her. So strange is this mind of mens." - Skisgaar Skwigelf
by Rage and Grace on Aug 12, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
No i'm not....you guys are in essence saying Al is trolling...
and he sort of is…and I think it’s freakin’ hilarious.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh
My mistake, I thought you were saying “well if you don’t like it move on”. Fair enough. Sorry.
" I hate that lady , but would totally do her. So strange is this mind of mens." - Skisgaar Skwigelf
by Rage and Grace on Aug 12, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I find it quite funny myself.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
You're right
He should be left to say as many dumb things as he wants without anyone arguing with him on a public forum.
" I hate that lady , but would totally do her. So strange is this mind of mens." - Skisgaar Skwigelf
by Rage and Grace on Aug 12, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
No
If what he said was really that egregious, then call him out.
But, I don’t see it as that horrible.
No one said it was horrible
Who used horrible?
" I hate that lady , but would totally do her. So strange is this mind of mens." - Skisgaar Skwigelf
by Rage and Grace on Aug 12, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Irritating yes
Horrible? I don’t think so.
" I hate that lady , but would totally do her. So strange is this mind of mens." - Skisgaar Skwigelf
by Rage and Grace on Aug 12, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
i haven't seen
horrible anywhere
It’s annoying that he constantly baits posters who take the time to share info/thought at his own blog be w/e
I think everyone has forgotten
that this is Al’s site. He’s allowed to harp on whatever he wants. If you don’t like his viewpoint or are tired of reading things you disagree with you’re free to visit any of the other sites on SB Nation. I don’t get why people are taking offense at a harmless sarcastic comment from the site’s founder. That’s half the fun of sites like this. If you want to go somewhere where everyone agrees with you and wants to worship your every opinion, you’re welcome to, but the rest of us like the differences.
"Awards mean a lot, but they don't say it all. The people in baseball mean more to me than statistics." - Ernie Banks aka Mr. Cub
I think Al would be the first to say
that just because it’s his site doesn’t mean we have to agree with everything he says.
I like the debates, personally
I’d rather not go to a site just to find that everyone agrees with the owner. That’s what makes this place fun – seeing people who have different opinions try to back theirs up.
There's a difference between an honest difference of opinion...
… and pointless jabs. Since he has spoken out against them (jabs) so frequently in past days, it seems hypocritical to deliver more of the same, thereby signaling to the rest of us that such actions are okay.
Golden Rule, CubsGirl. Golden Rule.
What he's spoken out about
are personal attacks and swearing, neither of which are in this post.
All I’m saying, Flatley, is that it seems kind of childish to complain about Al’s opinion. I happen to agree with him on the statistics issue and it’s a common theme on most of the game threads and therefore obviously a hot topic on BCB. I can’t speak for Al, but I’m pretty sure that was a joke. Why doesn’t anyone have a sense of humor anymore?
"Awards mean a lot, but they don't say it all. The people in baseball mean more to me than statistics." - Ernie Banks aka Mr. Cub
I think you have forgotten
We are not Al’s minions. We can express out opinions. If Al has a problem with that, he has the ability to ban people. So meanwhile, we can express our opinions. I think its kind of childish to complain about our opinions.
Ball 4!
by californiachicagoan on Aug 12, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
My God
not this holy war again…
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
may you forever be Touched by His Noodly Appendage
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Can we PLEASE stop bringing up Michael Jackson.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
And we're
arguing in circles. I’ve NEVER said that people CAN’T post anything. I was stating my point and am now being attacked for it. Seems hypocritical, no?
See how the circle just goes around and around and around.
"Awards mean a lot, but they don't say it all. The people in baseball mean more to me than statistics." - Ernie Banks aka Mr. Cub
passive agressive
tactis.
You post a inflammatory line of "this is Al’s site if you dont like what he says hit the road!
Somebody argues back at this and you throw up your hands and take it as a personal attack.
lame
I'm being attacked!
I’m being attacked! AHHHHH!!!
"Nice to hear some cheers for once," Bradley said. "I didn't come here to suck. I know I've sucked so far, but give me some love, you know what I'm saying? I am a Cub."
OK.
You’re entitled to your opinion.
Better?
"Awards mean a lot, but they don't say it all. The people in baseball mean more to me than statistics." - Ernie Banks aka Mr. Cub
Well, you DID take your stance.
And, just as Al’s comment in the pregame thread did, what you said is generating plenty of replies. You gotta reap what you sow, or take a step back and concede the point. Nothing wrong with either point, but you really can’t complain about people addressing your statement.
Oh no! I am being attacked for attacking!
Ball 4!
by californiachicagoan on Aug 12, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Now you're just being ridiculous
Thanks.
"Awards mean a lot, but they don't say it all. The people in baseball mean more to me than statistics." - Ernie Banks aka Mr. Cub
this is America!
if you dont like it you can giiiiiiittttttttt out!
LOL...
Could see that redneck on south park so clearly when you said that.
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure he has the right
but as such because it’s public he also has the right to get ridiculed for something so…..I can’t even describe it.
" I hate that lady , but would totally do her. So strange is this mind of mens." - Skisgaar Skwigelf
by Rage and Grace on Aug 12, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
what about sites outside of SB Nation?
am i free to visit those as well?
"Nice to hear some cheers for once," Bradley said. "I didn't come here to suck. I know I've sucked so far, but give me some love, you know what I'm saying? I am a Cub."
So, wait.
You like different opinions, but we shouldn’t present any that are in contrast to Al’s?
Gotcha.
"Nice to hear some cheers for once," Bradley said. "I didn't come here to suck. I know I've sucked so far, but give me some love, you know what I'm saying? I am a Cub."
Yeah, that's EXACTLY what I said.
Sure. OK. Did I accidentally turn on my English-German translator and post that in a different language or something?
"Awards mean a lot, but they don't say it all. The people in baseball mean more to me than statistics." - Ernie Banks aka Mr. Cub
...
If you don’t like his viewpoint or are tired of reading things you disagree with you’re free to visit any of the other sites on SB Nation.
If you want to go somewhere where everyone agrees with you and wants to worship your every opinion, you’re welcome to, but the rest of us like the differences.
/facepalm
"Nice to hear some cheers for once," Bradley said. "I didn't come here to suck. I know I've sucked so far, but give me some love, you know what I'm saying? I am a Cub."
by Bildo1805 on Aug 12, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
And show me
where I said that no one is ALLOWED to post differences?
"Awards mean a lot, but they don't say it all. The people in baseball mean more to me than statistics." - Ernie Banks aka Mr. Cub
Done be dense.
If you disagree with her, you should go away.
If she disagrees with you, then she has the right to do so.
Ball 4!
by californiachicagoan on Aug 12, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Don't be a jerk.
"Awards mean a lot, but they don't say it all. The people in baseball mean more to me than statistics." - Ernie Banks aka Mr. Cub
Yes, agree with her, jerk!
"Nice to hear some cheers for once," Bradley said. "I didn't come here to suck. I know I've sucked so far, but give me some love, you know what I'm saying? I am a Cub."
I am not a jerk.
Most people who know me think Im too nice to people. If I have misrepresented what you said, correct me and I will apologize. If I have not and you dont like the way you sound when you are summarized, then stop talking this way.
Ball 4!
by californiachicagoan on Aug 12, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
There's a difference between summary
and exaggerate. Or am I being too opinionated?
"Awards mean a lot, but they don't say it all. The people in baseball mean more to me than statistics." - Ernie Banks aka Mr. Cub
I just want the record to show
That I had NOTHING to do with this one
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
sure you did
carry-over from the last hang-over
It's time to get damn-over it
It stopped being interesting
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
it's hard when
emotions got riled up pretty good and then there was always another 6-8 new posts on it to keep the flame going strong.
It was a great source of amusement.
but your klingon breeding
has gotten us all riled up
WE WANT SOME CAKE!
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
its all your fault
you didnt stop it, so you are guilty by association
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Well, trying to stop a bunch of thin-skinned hotheads
from reacting to every perceived, imagined or harmless slight is like trying to stop a compass from pointing north.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
Or a woman from crying.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
like trying to steer a train
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
not steering a unicycle?
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
so you have to step on it
and break it?
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
its teh intarwebz
just block the tubes and pull the plug
that wil make her cry more I think
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Nor did I . . .
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
it's not love
it’s the fact that they are a ferocious little mammal
Not even Allie?
Dang.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Boiler
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Gross.
Maybe its that train whistle, or maybe it was the Purdue pre-med that stole my girlfriend in schoo, but i REALLY dislike the Boilermakers.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Aug 12, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
That bastard!
I’m not a big Joe Tiller fan, either. Went to a game in 1997, I think, and he ran up the score, having a FG kicked at the end.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I actually have a special place in my heart for the Badgers...
… not only because your football coach has a hawkeye tat on his leg, but also because after a Wisconsin game my freshman year i found an ID that look exactly like me just laying on the ground outside the stadium. That ID was a trusty fake for like 2 years… great times, me and John Ellis from Rock County, WI had.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Aug 12, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Be nice
Or I won’t do the lead-in to your show anymore.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I want to watch Pedro
because he’s Pedro. I have no interest in seeing the Phillies abuse Jeff Samardzija.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
I really want to have faith we can win this game
but knowing Samardzjia isn’t very good and 3 best arms in the ‘pen are probably not available isn’t helping my confidence.
But, at least the games on WGN and I’ll be able to see it.
Well Guzman & Gregg won't be available
Who is # 3 ?
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 12, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Um you said 3 BEST arms
So I was not counting Marmol unless the goal is to hit some more Phillies and walk the rest. Grabow should be OK if
needed.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 12, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Marmol's still got a good arm
its just the rest of his delivery that isn’t very good.
Actually, I meant to hit 2. Not three.
I suck at teh typing.
good arm
bad aim?
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
yeah, kinda like the anti-maddux, anti-moyer, anti-glavine
all bad arm good aim
hell maybe Shark will catch lightning in a bottle and pitch lights out
I can always dream right?
by aznsensation on Aug 12, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
if the discussion above can agree to anything
it’s that past performance doesn’t always equal future performance (though I’m pretty well convinced it’s quite useful for projecting the future in many cases).
It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.
by shake n bake on Aug 12, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Go cubs..
let’s win today. It’s still not too late.
by DisCUBbobulated on Aug 12, 2009 5:09 PM CDT reply actions
I suspect Marshall was not used last night
to be in reserve today.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
Between Shark starting for the Cubs
and Carpenter starting for the Cards I am not exactly optimistic about tonight’s outcomes.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
let me be the first to say that i dont have a good feeling about todays game
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
Beat you by 60 seconds
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 12, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
first in my mind
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 12, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
you realize you are taking Blou's job away from him
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
i do not
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 12, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
fool ya
This is when The Cubs will fool all of us with an unexpected win. Pedro is not the pitcher he was. We may just lay a lickin’ on him tonight. C’mon Cubs !!!
by If we only had Hubbs on Aug 12, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
the 09 cubs are known for making the aaron heilmans of the world look like roy halladay
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 12, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
We need moar soft tossing lefthanded junkball pitchers...
those kind always seem to shut us down.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 5:14 PM CDT reply actions
Yea for WGN!!!
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
double yay...
i thought the game would only be on espn, hooray for not having to listen to espn announcers bring up curses. Can I get an amen anybody?
by aznsensation on Aug 12, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Amen, because my curse on Joe Morgan isn't working.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
directv doesn't offer wgn in hd?
that doesn’t sound right. That’s lame if they don’t. What area are you in? You don’t get chicago locals?
by aznsensation on Aug 12, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
that blows...
i just looked it up and directv really doesn’t offer wgn in hd while Dish network does. For directv claiming to have the best hd and sports available, I’m a bit surprised. Well I hope you enjoy the game on espn or CSN. Go Cubbies!
by aznsensation on Aug 12, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Sullivan twitter has the lineup
Cubs vs Pedro: T-Ro Ss, Milt RF, D-Lee 1B, Fox 3B, Fu CF, Sori LF, Bake 2B, Koy-E C, Smardz P.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
its bad
I think he’s just figuring out twitter, at least I hope
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
Its that supposed to be Theroit?
Really?
Ball 4!
by californiachicagoan on Aug 12, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I was searching my brain
for some minor leaguer we had called up to play short.
Ball 4!
by californiachicagoan on Aug 12, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Theriot IS short...he doesn't play it.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
hmm Baker and not Fonty?
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
okay, I'll buy that
since I have been harping on Lou to play the hot hand anyway. :)
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
and because Fontenot
… has been a major disappointment.
Please use DOME instead of FU
I read that and thought , they are starting Fuld for the 3rd day in a row and batting him 5th ? Is Lou out of his mind.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 12, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Does this mean BB will be "Stoned"
after all, a good part of why people wanted Stone gone was for being blunt and honest..
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Does that mean Stone has gotten better?
He’s only one of those things now.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
that brings up another question
is BB as petty as stoney?
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 12, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
::opens photobucket and CS2::
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
please dont
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
I don't know...Stone may have him beat on the physic....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
ok I will need to have lazik now
thanks
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
both petty and pretty are valid questions
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 12, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
you know you want to
listen to your conscience
it's just a picture
of someone with mullety goodness. if you can call a mullet good.
The last time someone mentioned Stone
SWL scarred me for life with a picture.
I will not do it again.
but there was no stoney in this pic
just a person with mullety goodness… I have followed the link.
you might be suprised...
this could be your neighbor.
It does look like the redneck on southpark
“they took our jerbbbb”
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
well it is the perfect
pic for a “you might be a redneck if….”
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
True Allie....but you know you want to click it. The pretty blue letters call out to you from your screen.
The mouseover script teasing you with thoughts of what might be. That simple, deadly blue line appearing like a siren calling you to come….come….join us in our dance around this wicked fire.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
You just know her finger is twitching on that mouse
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
That sounds like an entry on Urban Dictionary.com
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know.
I think this team and this manager are a little more prepared to be held accountable than when Stone was ousted. I think Theriot’s quote demonstrates that.
While I don’t think I’ve seen him fess up to his own managerial gaffes, Lou tends to admit when the team screws up.
And the player you may think most likely to take offense (Bradley) also seems to hold himself accountable for mistakes in the game.
Stoney
Which people ? Don’t you mean Dusty ?
by If we only had Hubbs on Aug 12, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
amongst others that season
players and fans
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Rather than use Theriot's quote to defend baseball as a human activity...
… how about someone calling Theriot out on making excuses? It’s not like the Cubs only don’t run things out on getaway days. Or, if you’re buying that one, then I guess we just have to change Theriot’s moniker to
“Does all the little things right (except on getaway days and on other days when he’s being human).”
I hope Theriot’s act with the media gets old before he gets too expensive.
Randy Wells - You continue to astound me.
was thinking something similar
Ball 4!
by californiachicagoan on Aug 12, 2009 5:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
but, but, but he's the grindy guy who doesn't get paid much
and jokes with the media. He couldn’t ever say something wrong.
Imagine if Soriano or Bradley said that.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 12, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
exactly!
I can picture this place now if Milton had said “the season is a grind and sometimes I’m too tired to hustle”
Al would have a very different front page take on THAT
Al wouldn't have to give his own take
He could probably link to one of the many writers who would jump on him first.
Thats what I was trying to post
Before my phone crapped out on me. If Alf said something similar he would have been ripped repeatedly for it for the rest of the year. Meanwhile, not only will Ryan get criticized a whole lot less, some of those same people who rip Alf will defend Ryan. Im not saying its Al, but some people.
Unfortunately, for some, that is human nature too. Hopefully a nature we are all learning to over come.
Ball 4!
by californiachicagoan on Aug 12, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, I agree with Al.
It is human nature. And none of the critics “bring it” to their job 100% every single day either. But then I would also agree if Alf said it.
Ball 4!
by californiachicagoan on Aug 12, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
The human nature part is true
I just know that some people (and not necessarily Al) would start a riot if Soriano or Bradley gave that exact quote.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
I'm reminded of the episode of The Office...
… where dwight commits to working 100% for a day. Pretty soon he is peeing in an empty two liter bottle that held coke before, but he had to chuck for the caffeine. He starts feeling bad when he takes a second to sneeze.
Honestly, who here has EVER gone in to work and gave a 100% “this is as hard as i can possibly try, i’m working as if my life actually depends on it” effort?
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Aug 12, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Eric Hanna?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 13, 2009 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions
I understand baseball players are human beings
But I find it hard to believe that all 25 guys on the roster can lack intensity on the same day. That’s when you need someone on the team to lead by example. Lay down a sweet bunt, steal a base, stretch a single into a double – that sort of thing. The only cure for the lulls/blahs is HUSTLE!!
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
In the same way that one person can pick up a team...
…can’t it also be true that several people without energy can drag down the rest? Besides, they all did the same thing the day before. Why wouldn’t they all suffer similar levels of fatigue?
I absolutely agree
But that’s why it’s so important for guys to focus on picking eachother up – especially mentally – during the dog days. One bad game can turn into two or three. Kinda like this week…
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
Yes, it sounded like more excuses from a team that can't seem to make up enough.
I doubt anyone plays with 100% concentration and effort 100% of the time, but it is disappointing that the “team” or Theriot couldn’t give better effort in those games.
I have to ask
Why do I turn on David Kaplan’s stupid tv show every night knowing I’m just going to hear stupid things?
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
and the first guy who talks
Phil Rogers and suggests Marmol becomes the next closer. His reason? Mitch Williams was wild in 1989. I need to turn it off, but I can’t.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
Open thread for any sort of non-bickering topic here:
by DisCUBbobulated on Aug 12, 2009 5:38 PM CDT reply actions
I love Chipolte burrito bowls.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
The regular Chicken Burrito with the roasted corn salsa is a winner.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
The Taco Bell on Highway 12 and I-43
Is the most polite fast-food place on earth.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
HWY 50, not 12
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Are they all stoned?
Because that’s how all the Taco Bells are around here.
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Not that I've noticed
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I love chipolte burritos
Why dispense with the tortilla? Obviously you are biased against tortillas
WE WILL NEVER AGREE ZOMG
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. -- Bruce Bartlett
first they got rid of the foil wrapper...and I didn't say anything....
then they did away with the tortilla…and I didn’t say anythiing…
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
that is excellent.
rec’d
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a well-hidden fact that there's more food in the bowl than the wrap.
Get with the program.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
I actually don't eat at Chipotle that much
I do like their burritos though. I’m surprised to hear that, considering how frakking huge the burritos are
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. -- Bruce Bartlett
Freebird is better
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
TWSS
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I swear if Lou doesn't put Dome at leadoff tonight...
I’m gonna quit watching the cubs. Okay empty threat but I still think Dome should be at leadoff tonight.
T-Ro is leading off.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Terrell owens joined the cubs
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 12, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
TO has many shapes and names
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 12, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
look up in the thread.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't like it
Dome’s been getting on base a lot and Sori has been leaving a lot of them on. It doesn’t feel like the right combo. At least put him in front of Jake Fox.
by aznsensation on Aug 12, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Dome should be leading off as well...
Theriot seems lost lately and Lou is definitely liking Bradley in the two hole…switching dome with theriot seems a good solution to me.
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we would be missing slugging in the middle of the order
Dome has not only been getting on base a lot, but has been slugging well too, .600 since the All-Star break!!! With Aramis out, I can understand wanting Dome in the middle of the order.
Ball 4!
by californiachicagoan on Aug 12, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Boy, this thread has a lot of clicks already.
"Nice to hear some cheers for once," Bradley said. "I didn't come here to suck. I know I've sucked so far, but give me some love, you know what I'm saying? I am a Cub."
Every click counts!
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. -- Bruce Bartlett
its clickalicious
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Thereby driving up ad revenue
Sort of an unfortunate side effect of the jihad
by Robert )' DROP TABLE STUDENTS on Aug 12, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Get Ad Block Pro.
Sorry Al, i know that isn’t in your interest. But its a must have firefox addon.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Aug 12, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure does...scrolling up i don't see the lineup and it's making me dizzy lol
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 5:52 PM CDT reply actions
Copy from nji's post
Sullivan twitter has the lineup
Cubs vs Pedro: T-Ro Ss, Milt RF, D-Lee 1B, Fox 3B, Fu CF, Sori LF, Bake 2B, Koy-E C, Smardz P.
by aznsensation on Aug 12, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
flagged for plagiarism
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Twittermyer agrees with Sullivan:
Cubs’ answer to Pedro: riot, milt, lee, fox, fuku, sori, baker, hill, big irish.
Back to the lineup thing...
Doesn’t “Riot” and “T-Ro” have the same number of characters?
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
maybe sullivans trying to impress some new friends
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 12, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
didn't think of that
This has become a bigger problem now.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
but the hyphen is inconvenient
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
No, I'm saying use "Riot"
Since that’s what he’s known as.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
Okay, I thought you were advocating.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
true
and T-Ro is harder to type…you have to hold the shift key 2 more times. Plus T-Ro makes me think of a T-bone steak.
by aznsensation on Aug 12, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
yep
i’m not a fan of the whole “first letter of first name, first few letters of last name” nicknaming… but this is a bizarre crapastic twist.
Crapastic?
workin’ hard with the lexicon there…hmm sounds interesting…did you mean craptastic?
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Crappy keys there. sticktastic.
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
OK, I want to get back to the Brenley thing
Seriously, we can’t be the franchise that runs off two straight color guys, right? I mean, I was a fan of Stone, but I get that he wasn’t for all.
But seriously, what the hell would that look like to the rest of the league if the Cubs players manage to bounce out TWO color commentators for being… meanies?
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
Who was it complaining...i forget...
wasn’t it Moises? Where is he now?
by aznsensation on Aug 12, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Mercker was the evil genius in that one
Although he had PLENTY of support from bigger fish.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
Merker, Alou, were two
but IIRC there were some others including players wives complaining
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
ahh...the wives were complaining...
that’s when you know there’s trouble a brewin.
by aznsensation on Aug 12, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
You'd think they would be more concerned about slump busters
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
There were active complainers
and then there were the folks who could have put an end to it, but didn’t. Baker and Hendry for sure, but I think Wood could have done more there too.
That’s done.
It just can’t happen again.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
Wait til he gets on Bradleys case some more.
“Who’s that pounding on the door”
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
I'd sure be pissed...Brenly is a joy to listen to
Plus, who else would say “he just got saved from being smashed into a million pieces by Hill”
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
sounds like lack of institutional control to me
If you don’t want to be criticized, play hard. Or go away.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
Brenly was on the score the other day
and said repeatedly and clearly that no one from the front office or either network has said anything to him about his bluntness about the team.
That's good to hear.
The way the Cubs have played lately he’d be lying to ignore it.
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Can't wait till the new ownership comes in...
We need to get this organization in shape from the top down.
by aznsensation on Aug 12, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I forgot to add...
has the sale been completed yet? Sam Zell blows.
by aznsensation on Aug 12, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Boy, even in this economy Zell needs a side job.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
It will be a relief for it to finally be over.
But I actually worry. I mean things have been going pretty darn well lately. But who knows what kind of organization the new guys will run. Could be awesome, could be horrible, could be anywhere inbetween.
Ball 4!
by californiachicagoan on Aug 12, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
i think it'd be stagnant at first
not much would get done, just because I would wait until my big contracts were gone before giving out new ones. I like Henry, but he put us in a bind for like the next 10 years.
by aznsensation on Aug 12, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree 100%
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Brenly
speaks as a fan and his frustration boils over. He follows this team religiously and his son is now a member of the organization. He is frustrated that this “World Series” contender is 3 games back and played some really lousy baseball.
He pointed out something that needed to be said and theriot came up lame. I would hope this blows over. Players need to focus on the field, not the booth.
And regardless of what Theriot says, there is no execuse for him not running hard while the ball was in play and he was advancing a base. Pathetic.
+1
We’ve already got a big homer broadcasting with Santo, as much as I still like him. I enjoy a lot hearing Brenly saying what many Cub fans are thinking, whether its about our team or the opposition. I’d hate to see that be muzzled at all, much less getting rid of him.
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
This post
makes me feel like I’m stuck inside those Dr. Stat cartoons
the devil rays
Joe Posnanski has a great take on it here http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/06/dr-stat-attacks/
These are nice, in a really cheesy sort of way
Thanks for the link.
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by Chris Dobbertean on Aug 12, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
What the hell is with all the malarkey?!
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:12 PM CDT reply actions
and those damn
teenagers are standing on my lawn again!
cubs are losing
trolls are trolling
flames are flaming
stats are up
it’s anarchy
You kids cut out that racket! Don't make me go upstairs....stop doing that ...stuff!
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
the last hour before the game takes the longest
all the major complaints have been aired… and now we’re all waiting.
And waiting.
Yep.
Wasn’t hard to avoid that stats nonsense for me. It’s not much fun to disect losing and poor defense or baserunning to me…I’m hoping the Cubs continue the fielding they had last night.
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Just wait until the cubs actually start playing, all hell will break loose.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
cars will be flipped over
shops raided
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 12, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
end of days
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
ron santo standing in the middle of chaos saying
“oh boy…” over and over.
only ted lilly can save us now…
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 12, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I've been busy lately, haven't been here for awhile.
I can just imagine with the bad play how contentious it was.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
I like the game threads
and I’d like them a bit more if the ban hammer were used more to rid threads of idocy.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
but the ban hammer
should only be used against the anvil of common sense
Like Blou. And used as often as necessary.
Rinse and repeat.
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
But whatever is being discussed above
and I highly encourage not scrolling up for that, makes no sense to me. It honestly seems like the people arguing all have the same stance, and don’t realize it. I know there’s plenty of arguing, but that is some of the most confusing stuff up above.
“I LIKE GRILLED CHEESE!!!”
“BAH! WHATEVER! GRILLED CHEESE IS THE BEST SANDWICH, NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY!”
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
nah
they argue over which bread goes with which cheese.
Not as cheesy as that mullet posted before.
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
do you have an e-mail?
coz my co workers call something a tuna melt…. and it’s very nsfmb
Whole wheat, all the way
What about the cheese though? I’d go for a blend of cheddar, mozzarella, and colby jack.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
rec'd
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
waiting to wait
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
I'm waiting for Guffman.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
How long before the new sign for...
…the “Don’t take the bait” campaign is unveiled tonight?
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
I'm willing to bet we don't see him
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
i can't buy into that
everytime we’ve faced a pitcher I’m convinced we should hammer we end up getting shut out.
And to win a laugher you have to have solid pitching. And I’m not sold on Samardjiza at all, especially not going thru a lineup multiple times.
but see
that’s why we will…. people are losing faith, and hence the fates will smile once
There ya go...don't let a loss make you skeptical...
If Lou can keep Marmol out tonight we have a good chance to me.
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
If that'd been the first loss like that
I’d shake off the skepticism… but it wasn’t.
10 hits. 7 walks… and 3 runs.
I'm hoping for this, but if they should end up losing...
there’s always a nice bottle of wine and plenty of other things to do.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Huh?
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
remember...
he has better things to do than grace us with his presence
But I'm talking about turning off the tv
instead of frustrating myself watching a losing effort.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
but see...
you stated about other things to do….. and he has that in spades.
quitter.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Is that any good?
Commercials make it look cheesy. I may give that a go if Netflix ever has it on watch instantly.
What I really need to bust into is The Wire because a lot of people have compared that to The Shield, which was my favorite TV show ever.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
The first season was pretty good...
Not quite as good as the Closer but fun to watch.
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
A lot of people have hyped that one too
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Closer is really good too
Closer, Psych, Burn Notice, Leverage are all must see.
Dark Blue’s been alright. I like The Philanthropist a lot so far too.
Thats about it for TV.
I watched Royal Pains for a while
It was ok, but the brother is annoying as hell
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
and the "girlfriend" is an idiot. I want her to die in a helicopter crash.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
somewhat...but CHARACTERS drive shows...
not gimmicks.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
She's hot, though
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
She shouldn't be allowed to speak more than 5 lines in an episode.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds like most of the girlfriends on Entourage.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Like all women!
I’m kidding ladies!
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not bad
A little far-fetched, but it’s TV.
Burn Notice is probably my favorite right now.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
What happened to the poster that had Bruce Campbell as his avatar?
I can’t remember who that was . . . .
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Psych is pretty good, too.
Monk isn’t as good as it used to be.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Was glad to see the season start again.
I only wish they’d make the seasons longer with Psych.
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Me, too.
Haven’t watched the first one yet; on DVR
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
watched it on dvr yesterday
was really funny.
had a great dig at “the mentalist” which made me laugh.
They did one last year, too
Showed the one from last week in the promos
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Hate Burn Notice
I can’t stand to look at the guys face…. (really, that’s all I’m judging the entire show on)
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by digitalbenjamin on Aug 12, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, Fiona is easy on the eyes
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
My favorites in order
Psych
Life (damnit)
Burn Notice
Mork & Mindy
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I love the writing on Psych
Fast paced and obscure 80’s references.
Plus, the names of the football team from last season were all former UW athletes. There’s an alumn on the writing team.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow didn't know that...
Probably had a lot of Barry’s old players there.
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, they had to give names at different positions
Because of some weird NCAA rule.
But there was Fletcher, Dayne, Bevell, Bollinger and Calderwood (basketballer sneaks in)
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Steriods
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
He did. Not so much in the NFL
BTW – went to a game at your university in 2007. Was very impressed at how un-assholelike the fans were. Not always the case for a visitor at a college game!
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Sean was explaining something to Gus once
about a case involving something to do with Cincinnati. He was brainstorming by writing stuff on a grease board. The drew a little stick figure next to the name from Cincinnati and Gus asked him what it was. Sean looked at him like he was an idiot and said…’Are you kidding? That Austin Kearns!"
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember that - it was great
Also liked it when the Paula Abdul-like character referred to Lassiter as Mr. Bean.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I need to watch more of this show
instead of catching it here and there
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I recommend it
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
They were a total hoot at Comic Con.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
My Faves
X-Files
Smallville
Lost
Mythbusters
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by digitalbenjamin on Aug 12, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
When does Mythbusters' new season start?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
not sure. new ones ended in June/July...
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by digitalbenjamin on Aug 12, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
mine
Cubs baseball
Cubs baseball
Cubs baseball
Cubs baseball
Cubs baseball
Cubs baseball
Cubs baseball
Mythbusters
Blackhawks Hockey
Blackhawks Hockey
Blackhawks Hockey
Blackhawks Hockey
Blackhawks Hockey
Blackhawks Hockey
Blackhawks Hockey
Blackhawks Hockey
Supreme Court of Comedy (its on the 1010 on DTV)
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Life? Is that still on?
At least you can still catch Mork and Mindy Nick at Nite.
Can’t think of a list, but I will never ever miss an episode of Rescue Me, Lost, or House. There’s others, but I’m failing to remember at the moment.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I really enjoyed the first
season and a half of LOST.
but then the whole down the hatch thing happened…. and then I saw a shark fin go under the story arc.
Ooooooohhhhhhhh
You’ve missed out on so much. Like, you were rewarded BIG TIME if you suffered through the second season. This last season was amazing.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
This is what happens when a network lets writers just make shit up week after week
instead of actually forming a logical plot and adding “twists”. It’s like watching a TV show written by 5th graders.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
They've always said they had a point a to point b storyline
and after the last two seasons, I believe them. Everything that happened back then makes sense, and they did a tremendous job of making up for when cast members get fired for their screw ups.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Never watched it, but
Alias seemed to have a point for the first 2 or 3 seasons. Then they flipped out . . .
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
(both JJ Abrahms)
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
The first season and half of season two it was the same thing
They had a clear outline for where they wanted to go, and then ABC told them to make it less serial because it made it hard to join in and watch. That’s why they took out Sloan so soon in season 2. They JJ went off to produce Lost and some other projects, and the people left in charge drove the show into the ground. The twist where Syd wakes up 2 years later in an alley was totally dumb, and it took them an entire season to recover from that blunder. The last season was good though, but there were too many missteps along the way.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
The obsession with Rambaldi . . .
They mixed genres
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you ever see the payoff to the Rambaldi Device?
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
The series finale?
Yes, if that’s what you mean.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's what I meant.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
It was good - except
I was very disappointed with the charachter of Syd’s mom at the end. A letdown, IMO.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a JJ Abrams pattern.
Starts out Great… then goes into Wacky land around season 3. Examples:
Alias
Felicity
Lost (although he did bring it back)
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by digitalbenjamin on Aug 12, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think that was his
But it would qualify on the other grounds
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I could be wrong
I thought that was Rick Berman. The new movie was his.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
JJ only produces those shows
He created them, directed and wrote a few, and that’s it. Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindeloff are the showrunners on Lost, and it was someone else on Alias. Too often JJ gets a bad rap for stuff like this, but, like, he’s the producer, and he’s producing a lot of stuff. Lindeloff and Cuse have done a great job on Lost though.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Well the idea may have sounded good...
but it hasn’t done anything for me…I just want all of them to die now.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
How could I forget House!
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
cause your drunk
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by digitalbenjamin on Aug 12, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn. What did I drink?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
It's modeled after Sherlock Holmes
Who was addicted to cocaine
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't know that.
But I can’t get into it.
But damn.. I forgot NCIS on my list of “gotta see” tv.
I really do love that show.
The whole character pretty much is, I guess
Never read the books, but I’ve read interviews with the show’s creators
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
The season finale from last season was awesome
All of the stuff with Kutner and House’s addiction is going to be hard to top.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
They played Amber well, too
Funny thing – I used to work for a “cutthroat bitch” that looks a LOT like her
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh man, Burn Notice is so good
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, they're doing a good job of keeping it fresh
With him continuing to be burned
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I like how they've dropped some of the
crap with his mom.
Before when she was a weak whiny hypochondriac it wasn’t believable as his mom… now sh’e s a bit more badass. You can sorta “buy” it.
A little more Cagney?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
(I agree)
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn!
Beat me to it…she was always so good at being tough on that show, I was very glad they signed her on the cast.
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Definitive list:
Breaking Bad
Dexter
LOST
Mad Men
Big Love
Eastbound & Down
Rescue Me (has its moments)
Californication
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Rescue Me is really suffering from a longer season this year
I love it and all, but man, it’s really, really goofy this year.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Like an elderly man with the Spice Channel.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Just a feeling.
Was he around last night? I wasn’t here.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure it was wonderful
For someone who has a lot to do away from here, and doesn’t have to post on here, I sure wish I had the time he has to waste on here.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
He made things worse as usual.
And that’s all I’m going to say about him. Posting more just feeds the idiot that is him.
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I probably won't be around
but I sincerely hope people don’t feed into that stuff tonight.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Really...
What happened to a discussion of what we think will happen in tonight’s game. I mean it’s prettty obvious that there are those who disagree about the importance of stats but how about a discussion of a first career start pitcher vs a future hall of fame pitcher.
by cubbiefanTN on Aug 12, 2009 6:31 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
come on man....we're all already depressed enough as it is.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point
After losing 5 of 6 and falling out of first place, this matchup couldn’t come at a worse time. Hopefully Pedro is VERY rusty.
by cubbiefanTN on Aug 12, 2009 6:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Future hall of famer to be sure...
But definitely on the decline and prone to injury. It will be very interesting to see if he has “it” out of the gate..and whether he will maintain it. It’s worth a shot for the Phillies, but I sure wouldn’t have confidence in him. Question is…who do you trust less? the lately toothless Shark or the fading Pedro?
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Just like with any pitcher they haven't seen in a while
it will probably take the Cubs one trip around the batting order before they get a feel for Pedro’s stuff. I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t do much in the first three innings, but I hope they jump all over him…
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
I think there is going to be a game on tonight
and while that game is on, I’m going to grill the chicken I’ve been marinating for the last 24 hours. I’m going to grill up some veggies as well. Then I’m going to eat my delicious meal and have a bottle of wine because I don’t work tomorrow. If they’re winning, I’ll fall asleep watching them play, and if they lose, I’ll fall asleep playing NCAA. That’s my contribution for what will happen with tonight’s game.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
So based on stats and past performances,
we have zero chance of winning. sarcasm
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Miles isn't in the starting lineup...
that should be at least a +2 percent chance of winning right there.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
okay, I stand corrected, but he is in the dugout and probably will pinch hit sometime.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
but lou is managing the bullpen usage
so how does that factor in?
+5 charm
-11 logic
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 12, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
But what is his THACO?
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
gawd
that is sooooooo ’90’s there is no THAC0
Well, in that case,
I’m just going to tap 9 mana and cast Tooth and Nail…
Wait…
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 12, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we're walking into a disaster.
Pedro’s first game back and The Shark, who hasn’t proven much of anything, besides the fact that we shouldn’t have given him a NTC.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Replying once
But thanks to all. Those were amusing posts across the board.
New topic since I can choose…
Watch ESPN HD or regular WGN?
by cubbiefanTN on Aug 12, 2009 6:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Tough call
If they play like crap, BB will be must hear TV… but if you have a hi-def TV, it’s hard to give that up
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 12, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
My fear is that tonight will be Pedro's "Dravecky Game"
Remember Dave Dravecky? He came back from cancer to pitch a complete game shutout (or something like that)
Then two or three starts later, his arm literally almost snapped off on the mound. He ended up losing the arm.
I’m afraid we’re the heartwarming story before the tragedy.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
I'd at least predict he gets hit by the sixth inning, he clearly doesn't have the stuff at all he used to.
Cunning and guile can only get you so far, especially when you’ve been injured like him.
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 6:36 PM CDT reply actions
Dig up Charley Root and have him pitch the game
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
yay!
I just got my invite for google voice and I made myself a new phone number with the word cubby in it. Just another reason why Google is awesome. That can only mean good luck for the Cubbies tonight.
cool...
If we win tonight I’ll gladly give that the credit
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't feel so good...
Answer: Yes
Question: Is it possible to eat too many Runts?
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by digitalbenjamin on Aug 12, 2009 6:50 PM CDT reply actions
And on that note, let's play Jeopardy...
Gave me a good laugh turning on WGN…getting close to game time baby!
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 12, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Jeopardy
Answer: Cause he has naked pictures of Jim Hendry
Question:
My comedy show plays this Friday 8/14. Come out and support a fellow Cubs fan? If you do, I'll see what I can do about Aaron Miles: Hot Beans Delivers
by digitalbenjamin on Aug 12, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, think of it this way:
It can’t get any worse than last night, right?
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
it can always get worse
quit being optimistic….
we need more angst.
Enjoy.
Go Cubs
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
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