Salvaging A Game And Some Pride: Cubs vs. Phillies Preview, Thursday 8/13, 1:20 CT
by Al on Aug 13, 2009 11:30 AM CDT
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Usually, I'll post a photo from the previous day's game in the game preview. However, the available photos from last night are pretty much all Phillies. There were a lot of photos of Pedro Martinez available, but you guys don't really want to look at him any more, do you? (I'm sure the Cubs don't.)
So, let's move on. One of the best things about baseball is that no matter how badly you look and how badly you are defeated on one day, there's generally a game the very next day where you can play better and make up the ground you lost the day before.
Bruce Miles has some notes about the Cubs' BABIP this year, which suggests they have been hitting with some bad luck:
One of our readers yesterday talked about the line-drive percentage of Cubs batters. Here are the top five Cubs, along with their batting average on balls in play (BABIP). The Cubs enter today third in line-drive percentage, at 19.8. Their BABIP is .296, 22nd best in baseball. That could suggest the Cubs have hit into some bad luck.
The question is: can such things change in the course of 50 remaining games in a season? Or does it take the turn of the calendar for this to happen? Bruce also tells us the Cubs are still working on fixing Carlos Marmol. I thought it was instructive that coming in last night with a nine-run deficit, Marmol threw just fine (an uneventful 1-2-3 inning with nine strikes in 12 pitches). Could he be getting too amped up for setup situations?
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NOTE: Lee's numbers below reflect his two starts with the Phillies only. See above for his season totals.
Cliff Lee started against the Cubs on June 19 at Wrigley Field. He left after seven innings having allowed three runs, including solo homers by Derrek Lee and Reed Johnson. The Indians lost the game in extra innings after a massive bullpen meltdown. That's not likely to happen today, of course. In addition to Lee and Johnson, Aramis Ramirez, Milton Bradley and Alfonso Soriano have all homered off Lee in their careers.
Ryan Dempster has a 4.76 career ERA vs. the Phillies, but a lot of that was piled up when his elbow was hanging on by a thread in his Marlins and Reds days. He missed the series in Philadelphia last month and his last start vs. the Phillies was almost a year ago, August 28, 2008, when he gave up four runs in six innings but the Cubs won on A-Ram's grand slam. Matt Stairs, oddly enough, is the Phillie who hits him best -- 4-for-7 with three homers.
Perhaps non-national exposure will help. Cable-only today on CSN, both the Chicago and Philly versions. For other games today see the MLB.com Mediacenter.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Please visit our SB Nation Phillies site The Good Phight.
Overflow comment threads will post today at 2:15 pm, 3:15 pm and 4 pm CDT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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im not even in the mood
to be 1st today
by cozmotaylor123 on Aug 13, 2009 11:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ironically, you succeed.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or fail, depending upon how you look at it.
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by AndrewJStone on Aug 13, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tis a conundrum, indeed.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
success = fail at failing
success = fail
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 13, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Logic
if success = fail at failing
and
success = fail
then it seems
failure = succeed at success
failure <> success
and therefore
fail <> failure ???
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by eths on Aug 13, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boom! There goes my mind.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah im mush
Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2012
by heine41 on Aug 13, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
May our Lee out play their Lee.
let’s salvage one.
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-- Dan Quayle
by LAcarl519 on Aug 13, 2009 11:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting thought on Marmol
That had been speculated last year, too. I can’t remember what announcer said it, but it makes sense. And if it’s true, he’ll never be a closer until he learns to control that.
By the way, speaking of AMPED WHATSTODAYSLINEUPGETITPOSTED.
ok.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 13, 2009 11:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I noticed
that Marmol’s velocity was down early in the inning. Maybe seemed to be throwing some get me over strikes early in the count. This would help support the theory that he is overthrowing his fastball. He did seem to crank it up a little as the inning progressed
"When two Whales Fight, many Shrimp Die" - Korean Proverb
by TheRiot Police on Aug 13, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ive only notice marmol really f's up in close/tied games
so because of the cubs offense we get the bad marmol more often
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 13, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lineup, via Waddle & Silvy
Riot Dome Gameboard DLee Fox Soriano Soto Baker Dempster
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by ScottieG33 on Aug 13, 2009 11:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
now Dome is in the 2 spot
and Bradley in the 3?
boy o boy.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don't get that.
Leave him alone at #2.
I suppose Piniella’s trying to ease him back to an RBI slot, but it’s been working so well for him as it is.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 13, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's hard to knock runs in by walking.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 13, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why I'd leave him at 2
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 13, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it could be 11 kinds of crazy
But I will say this… Lou is trying.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
by Worf on Aug 13, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
by changing things that were actually working
that’s the BAD kind of trying
by Illicat on Aug 13, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and if Dome is going to be that high, why not put him back at leadoff?
Dome has a higher OBP than Theriot. Hell, Soriano has walked more than Theriot.
by Illicat on Aug 13, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's still playing the hot hand in Baker
Good to see that.
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by Worf on Aug 13, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Fontenot has been locked in a closet until he can hit his way out.
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by Trey2317 on Aug 13, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or a shoebox
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
by Worf on Aug 13, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be appropriate for everyone's favorite Wonder Hampster.
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by Trey2317 on Aug 13, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also because the Phillies are starting a lefty.
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 13, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good, because Aramis KILLS lefties.....wait....dammit.
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by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 13, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why...
Just why? Bradley has been so good batting 2nd.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 13, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't agree with the lineup, but at least Lou is trying new things.
I thought earlier in the season Lou was just stuck in some ruts.
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by KaliCub on Aug 13, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
New is not always better...
Why tinker with the few parts that are actually working? Dome leading off, MB 2nd, and Lee 3rd.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 13, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The one thing that has bothered me
is having a platoon leadoff position. That to me is not how you get any consistency.
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by KaliCub on Aug 13, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why in the world is Riot 1 and dome 2?
COOL BEANS!
by lexmarklover on Aug 13, 2009 11:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
obviously it's because Lou is used to having a power bat lead off whenever possible.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 13, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
louuuuuuuuu ..... sobs sobs sobs sobs sobs sobs sobs
COOL BEANS!
by lexmarklover on Aug 13, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree - I'm not pleased with Theriot leading off.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soriano and Theriot have exactly the same number of ABs this year
Soriano has 37 BBs. Theriot has 33.
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 13, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Earlier in his career
Zambrano had a problem like that too. He would actually be better as the game went on because his arm tired and he had a normal delivery.
(See, I can say something nice about Zambrano)
The problem is, Marmol has at most, one inning to figure it out.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
by Worf on Aug 13, 2009 11:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ted Lilly ..... YOU'RE THE MAN!
COOL BEANS!
by lexmarklover on Aug 13, 2009 11:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Today's game...
Hopefully the Cubs can salvage one here, but with Lee on the mound I don’t have a great feeling. However, these are the games that the Cubs seem to win.
I just hope they play with a little bit of fire today and don’t wait until they are down 9 to start cutting into the lead.
by Tangled Up In Blue on Aug 13, 2009 11:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just in time...
to watch the Cubs dwindle away their season…
by Butchman on Aug 13, 2009 11:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Now that's the kinda fightin' spirit I like to see!
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 13, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The last week has been a killer
They look awful.
It’s times like these that make things difficult for fans
by CubFaninNY on Aug 13, 2009 11:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it true they haven't won a series vs.a winning team since APRIL?
by CubFaninNY on Aug 13, 2009 11:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could've sworn I saw that in an article right before the Phils series
by CubFaninNY on Aug 13, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they're wrong
we beat Houston down to .500 at some point, but it was after April.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
here it is:
“The Cubs have not won a series against a team with a winning record since April, which is a trend that has to end if they expect to make the postseason.”
by CubFaninNY on Aug 13, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its wrooong
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 13, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so we've won ONE series against a winning team since April
that’s still not remotely impressive
by Illicat on Aug 13, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think anyone
is suggesting that it’s impressive. Just that it’s untrue.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually, it may not be
The sentence didn’t say “the Cubs haven’t beaten a team that didn’t have a winning record at the time” It says a team with a winning record. The stros might have had a winning record when that series started, but they don’t now.
So TECHNICALLY the statement is true. I guess it depends on how you read the sentence.
by Illicat on Aug 13, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 13, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better than nothin'.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't that make them...
a .500 team? They lose to teams over .500 and beat teams under .500
by Butchman on Aug 13, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Cubs beat Milwaukee 3 of 4 in July
when the Brewers were above .500. But your point is noted.
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by Trey2317 on Aug 13, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Milwaukee has decided they like that side of the .500 mark
by Butchman on Aug 13, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The below .500 side?
Sure. But I think it’s also important to look at how the Cubs played against teams during the course of the season – Milwaukee was playing good baseball when the came to Chicago, and the Cubs took 3 of 4.
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by Trey2317 on Aug 13, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Early May sweep of Marlins
was, I believe, the last series win against a team CURRENTLY above .500.
by STLCubby on Aug 13, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that seems like forever ago.
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by Trey2317 on Aug 13, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This whole above or below .500 thing is rather murky, isn't it?
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
at least with respect to teams that bounce above and below .500 during the year. But you’d like to think the Cubs, if we consider them a playoff caliber team, could take a series every now and then against a legitimate contender.
by STLCubby on Aug 13, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It'd be nice.
And there’s still time: 4 at LA, 4 at San Francisco, 3 at St. Louis and 1 vs. the White Sox.
Never know what can happen in those 12 games.
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by Trey2317 on Aug 13, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree.
But the “at” part scares me.
No strong evidence to suggest that they can turn it around, but still blindly optimistic that they will.
by STLCubby on Aug 13, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's kind of how I feel, too.
The “at” part is scary, but if the rotation actually gets back together, things could be looking up.
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by Trey2317 on Aug 13, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HARDASS ALERT!
“I do what I want to do and say what I want to say,” Arroyo said, according to the report. “But society has made this such a tainted thing. The media has made it where people look at it in such a super-negative light. I’ve always been honest. I’m not going to stop now.”
COOL BEANS!
by lexmarklover on Aug 13, 2009 11:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Keep doing what you're doing
if you like being on waivers
by Butchman on Aug 13, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what is "it"
some context might be nice
by Illicat on Aug 13, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoops sorry
here’s the link
COOL BEANS!
by lexmarklover on Aug 13, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, it's official. Bronson Arroyo is a freaking dumbass
by Illicat on Aug 13, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the Cardinals will sign him....
“It might be dangerous, but so is drinking and driving. And how many of us do it at least once a year? Pretty much everybody.”
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 13, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
way way way wait...he actually said that?
I gotta read this.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
indeed
now I’m clicking.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Somewhere in a MADD meeting, a mother’s head explodes…
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 13, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At the end of the day, you think anybody really [cares] whether Manny Ramirez’s kidneys fail and he dies at 50?
Any one wanna bet what was really said instead of “[cares]”? :P
I think Manny’s mommy might care. But that’s just mommy being mommy.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked the part right before that
But as far as looking at Manny Ramirez like he’s [serial killer] Ted Bundy, you’re out of your mind.
I mean, Manny’s eccentric, but really?
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by Trey2317 on Aug 13, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
has anyone actually ever looked in his fridge? DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNN!
How does he “think” he’s on the list? I thought the players who were on the list were told they were on the list?
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think there's some debate on if they were told
Ortiz said the same thing that he hadn’t been notified in 2003, either. Supposedly, players were told that the government obtained the results and names, but didn’t actually tell players if they were on the list (you know, since the list was supposed to be destroyed).
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by Trey2317 on Aug 13, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that interview was just one poorly thought out comment after another
Somewhere Bronson’s agent is doing repeating face palms
by Illicat on Aug 13, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can't do repeating facepalms
unless you remove your palm from your face…. and in that note bronson can’t do them either as he can’t fit his hands where his head currently resides.
by tootle on Aug 13, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought (and was sort of hoping)...
the you were going to post the link to this.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 13, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the link. Is this guy Jerry Springer's off-spring?
I appreciate the honesty in his comments and I’d agree with him on the incentives. I might say it differently but it’s much more reasonable to me to have the opinion that most players were baked on PEDs. The list is irrelevant to me, the game is pretty much the list.
by DudeVf11 on Aug 13, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just wait, he's going to write a folk song about it.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was more like Christian Rock
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 13, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT RIP Les Paul
link.
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by Trey2317 on Aug 13, 2009 12:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A true legend.
Always wanted one of his namesake guitars.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've got one for PS3
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by tony412 on Aug 13, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Close enough.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've enjoyed his guitar playing and the massive contribution and innovation in recording technology....
but I’ve never been a fan of the Les Paul guitar. Leo Fender got it right the first time.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 13, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, I like 'em all.
You gotta admit, Jimmy Page looked pretty damn cool playing that low-slung Les Paul back in the day.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The first Led Zepplin album was recorded with a telecaster.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 13, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but I'm talkin' live, man, live!
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not practice?
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by tony412 on Aug 13, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No! Live, man, live!
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those were the days my friend...
The Physical Graffiti tour was my first rock’n roll concert – I must have been 12 or 13 at the time.
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Aug 13, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very cool.
They’d already broken up by the time I reached “concert-going age,” but I’ll always have “How the West Was Won.”
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa, my iPod is on shuffle and it just started playing a Zeppelin song.
Seriously.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's John Bonham
sending you a message from beyond the Stairway to Heaven…
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's saying...
…“Watching today’s Cubs game will be like slamming your head into my giant, flaming gong.”
But I shall not listen to you, Bonzo! I shall not surrender!
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they ask you to Come to Chicago
you may be in some trouble…
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 13, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm kind of a Fender man myself
but I have to admit, a Les Paul through a Marshall stack sounds awesome.
I am an American aquarium drinker...
by HoodooMan on Aug 13, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Fuk-U-Meter on Aug 13, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yet another reason I prefer a tele....compare the above pic to this video...
showing the resilience of a telecaster.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 13, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dead serious - my iPod is playing a Stones song right now.
(And that clip is classic.)
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm holding a telecaster on my lap right now.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 13, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tell her to get up
you can’t see the TV.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't see youtube at work
but I’m guessing it’s a Townsend bashing. Ever seen how much trouble he had with his Strat at Monterey Pop? Took him about 6 smashes to destroy it.
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by HoodooMan on Aug 13, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Close, but no cigar.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Based on your above comment
it must be the Stones.
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by HoodooMan on Aug 13, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i cant play a guitar
but les pauls are kick ass
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 13, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which of the "5 Stages of BEing a Cubs Fan in 2009" are YOU in?
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2009/8/13/988011/the-5-stages-of-being-a-cubs-fan
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gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
by Zeke on Aug 13, 2009 12:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ted speaks:
@payoff_pitch: Ted Lilly: “I don’t think that just because Carlos and I get back into the rotation, St. Louis is going to lay down.” #Cubs
Of course they won’t lay down, Ted! But you will RUN THEM DOWN! And then you’ll back up your Lillymobile and RUN THEM DOWN AGAIN!
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 12:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Wow. talking crap to the team you're looking up at?
Did he attend the “Jimmy Rollins School for Winning Friends and Influencing People” during his DL Stint?
by Illicat on Aug 13, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how is that talking crap?
He is basically saying StL is going to finish strong.
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by Fuk-U-Meter on Aug 13, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you may be misreading this.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 13, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, you are so right on
take that and suck on it
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by Fuk-U-Meter on Aug 13, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup, I saw the comma as a period.
I thought he was saying St. Louis was going to lay down
by Illicat on Aug 13, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, yeah, read it again. He's not talking crap.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I'm too Amped Up
To make a post today.
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by Fuk-U-Meter on Aug 13, 2009 12:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LEE AMP HIM UP!
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2009 12:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the guitar shown above isnt amped up
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 13, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 13, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Make sure to turn it all the way up to 11.
Because 11 is one louder than 10.
by Flatley on Aug 13, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is for Cliff Lee
A Spellcheck Special:
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by Fuk-U-Meter on Aug 13, 2009 12:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is why the Cubs will win today
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by Fuk-U-Meter on Aug 13, 2009 12:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it sems as though the offense is nothing without Rami in the Lineup
he’s been out most of this last week and look and the win-loss, its pathetic. the first, what 2 weeks or so after the ASG we had the best record in baseball. ARAM leaves and we are shit again. This team needs to fix that problem.
by CubsFanInWisconsin on Aug 13, 2009 12:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can you believe what that fan did last night?
It totally Amped up Philly.
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by Fuk-U-Meter on Aug 13, 2009 12:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OMG - it was nutdrinkingamp12!!
That guy hassles everyone!!!
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question
I know the guy who appeared to have poured/dropped his beer was ejected, but wondered if there was/would be any other punishment.
Just curious and wondered if anyone knew.
by lji001 on Aug 13, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes,
apparently he’ll be forced to rewatch the last 8 Cubs games.
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by Fuk-U-Meter on Aug 13, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well the guy that threw the beer wasn't ejected, another guy was...
You can't win in the postseason unless you can manufacture runs. - Hall of Fame 2B Joe Morgan
by dtc0405 on Aug 13, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you mean any other punishment against the guy who DIDN'T throw the beer?
If so, I doubt it. But:
@PWSullivan: Cubs, Victorino file formal complaints with Chicago police. Search for fugitive beer-tosser is on. http://bit.ly/3vjJRz
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if the "wrong" fan is going
to get an apology or free tix from the Cubs now.
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by tony412 on Aug 13, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doubt it.
Quite frankly, he asked for it. He was clearly celebrating what the Tosser did and generally exacerbating the situation.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh
“the tosser”
/British humour
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by Fuk-U-Meter on Aug 13, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha, yeah. There's a cool band called The Tossers, too.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
It looked like he was almost celebrating. I was watching the game on tv and I re-watched when it happened. It did not seem like the one ejected tossed it (or if he did, that it was intentional), but I could not tell for sure on my tv/the replay.
by lji001 on Aug 13, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So for you saber guys,
Al mentioned the babip of the team and them being “unlucky” with their LD%. Or could that also mean our hitters are stubborn and try to pull the ball. And the other team has their spray chart down and the Cubs hit into their normal spots.
Maybe hitting the ball where it is pitched rather than trying to pull everything would help.
Do I have that right? I am a novice when it comes to the new stats such as babip and whatnot.
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by KaliCub on Aug 13, 2009 12:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not correct...
BABIP is mostly if not all luck. Any pitcher can have varying stats on this from year to year. ie..Dempster had a really low BABIP last year…meaning he was getting a little lucky. This year, it’s obviously not the case. I don’t know his BABIP this year, but you can bet it is much higher than last year.
by Butchman on Aug 13, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Player's fielding and positions obviously helps...
but this is mostly a luck stat. One team could be lining out (a la the Cubs) and another could be hitting bloopers (see Matt Holliday’s first game). It’s hard to say how much positioning has to do with it.
by Butchman on Aug 13, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So my thesis could be true.
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by KaliCub on Aug 13, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two teams with lower BABIP than the Cubs
Cardinals & Phillies. Both of them have pretty decent lineups. I don’t think chalking the Cubs up to being unlucky as the reason they’re not performing.
However, LD% does correlate with BABIP, as LDs are typically much more difficult to convert into an out than GB or FB (that don’t leave the park), which does suggest they may be a little unlucky.
by rencelas on Aug 13, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not surprised
the Birds are lower on this list…Pucrap just doens’t ever strike out
by Butchman on Aug 13, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ks have nothing to do with BABIP
It is batting average on balls in play, or:
(H-HR)/(AB-K-HR+SF)
by rencelas on Aug 13, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My point is
That not striking out means you’re putting more balls in play…either a LD or a crap swing ground out…which if you’ve seen large albert get out without hitting the ball hard, he usually will put some crappy half swing to the right side
by Butchman on Aug 13, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I gotcha now
Was going down a different train of thought. You may have a point there. He also hits a lot of deep fly balls when he puts wood on it – but misses out on all the HRs which don’t count in the equation either.
by rencelas on Aug 13, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So instead of a strike out which is subtracted from the calculation
he gets a ball put in play that will go against BABIP
by Butchman on Aug 13, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So does that mean Pujols usually has a lower babip since he doesn't get the
k’s subtracted from this measure.
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by KaliCub on Aug 13, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying he does
but it would make sense to me if he did, just because of how many balls he puts in play. Even though he hits .330+, Soriano (if he could hit .300) would have a higher BABIP because he strikes out with the best of them
by Butchman on Aug 13, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its a good point and something I hadn't thought about.
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by KaliCub on Aug 13, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although
this isn’t really a good excuse for the Cubs having a low BABIP…because they do like to strike out (especially in key situations)
by Butchman on Aug 13, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Back to my original thought?
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by KaliCub on Aug 13, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think some of it has to do with his enormous power
and the lift he gets on his swing…
most of the balls he squares up leave the yard and thus aren’t in play
this creates a scenario where the balls left in play tend to be his weaker hit balls that are turned into outs
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 13, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aren't SOs subtracted from all babip measures?
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by KaliCub on Aug 13, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey guys and gals
haven’t been around much lately, been really busy. But I’ve been thinking about all of you on the boards during all of these awful cubs losses. I hope everyone is hanging in there.
Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2012
by heine41 on Aug 13, 2009 12:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Shark sent down to Iowa
Not sure if this was posted yet, but that was quick.
by 100yearitch on Aug 13, 2009 1:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No I guess you're right.
They had probably made the decision before he came out of the game.
by 100yearitch on Aug 13, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did he think he's performance last night warranted another start?
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by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 13, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, check the Fanshot bar.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That should've been what Lou told him on the mound.
“Nice try kid, now find yourself a bus outta here.”
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by KaliCub on Aug 13, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
now
here’s hoping they treat him properly down there. I doubt this is punitive anyway. Who did they bring up?
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 13, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
(Ice) Berg
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
welp, I thought I'd join yall on here maybe I'll bring good luck
haven’t been on posting on this board consistently since the DC series, so that’s gotta help…right??
Oh and whats up everybody??
I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!
by Chanman25 on Aug 13, 2009 1:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Suffering, basically.
Welcome back, Chanman. If the Cubs win today, you will be locked into every game thread from here on out.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha oh goody
seems like I picked a good summer to have two jobs; looks like I haven’t missed much yet this year.
I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!
by Chanman25 on Aug 13, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If today's game
is like the last 4, Ron might do a swan dive out of the radio booth….
Let’s hope for a W !!
by jthack on Aug 13, 2009 1:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Listened to the 1st inning on the radio last night and
I thought Ron was dying by all the moaning going on in the background of Pat’s play calling
by Butchman on Aug 13, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha oh goody
I guess I picked a good summer to have two jobs. Seems like I haven’t missed much this year at all.
I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!
by Chanman25 on Aug 13, 2009 1:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can see you're a little rusty on the whole posting thing.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 13, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you guys ready to.....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 13, 2009 1:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Babip
numbers aren’t the same as those on Baseball Reference. BR shows us at 18% LD vs Lg avg of 19%. It also shows our babip as .293 vs the league avg .298. But the real truth is that our opponents have a .288 babip. If you take those numbers as meaningful, it says while we have hit in bad luck, our opponents have hit in worse luck which makes it a net gain for us.
Despite wishful thinking, this season hasn’t been lost due to a black cloud hanging over our head. It’s been untimely hitting and inconsistent bullpen relief. Ths team hasn’t been clutch.
If you like Selig's handling of the steroid issue, you'll love his choice for next Cub owner.
by tharr on Aug 13, 2009 1:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't expect so much
This team is overpaid and under talented. It is what it is. My hope is the Cubs finish above the Brewers – keep it simple!
by statelinefan on Aug 13, 2009 4:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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