Who ARE These Guys? - Cubs vs. Pirates Preview, Friday 8/14, 1:20 CT
by Al Yellon on Aug 14, 2009 11:00 AM CDT
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PrintA little over a year ago -- on July 24, 2008, just before last year's trading deadline -- the Pittsburgh Pirates began a trading spree that I think is nearly unprecedented in recent baseball history.
Today, August 14, 2009, as the Pirates come to Wrigley Field for a three-game series, know how many players are left from the 25-man roster on 7/24/2008?
Three. Ryan Doumit, Paul Maholm and Zach Duke. (Four, if you count Matt Capps, who was on the DL on 7/24/2008). All the rest are gone. Some of the players they have acquired or promoted are decent players; Andrew McCutchen is a real talent. Lastings Milledge has some talent, if he could ever actually put a full season together. Some of the pitchers have good arms. But basically, it's a Triple-A visiting team coming to Wrigley Field this weekend. The Cubs took two of three in two series earlier this year from the Pirates, one at Wrigley and one at PNC; this time, they both need to sweep, and should sweep. Aramis Ramirez returns today; that should help.
Courtesy of John Lewis' research on a SABR mailing list to which I subscribe, here's where the departed Pirates went:
Lewis also notes that:LF Jason Bay traded to Red Sox 2008 CF Nate McLouth traded to Braves 2009 RF Xavier Nady traded to Yankees 2008 OF Jason Michaels free agency 2008 1B Adam LaRoche traded to Red Sox 2009 2B Freddy Sanchez traded to Giants 2009 3B Jose Bautista traded to Blue Jays 2008 SS Jack Wilson traded to Mariners 2009 1B-3B Doug Mientkiewicz free agency 2008 2B-SS Luis Rivas free agency 2008 INF Chris Gomez free agency 2008 C Raul Chavez free agency 2008 P John Van Benschoten free agency 2008 P Franquelis Osoria free agency 2008 P Damaso Marte traded to Yankees 2008 P John Grabow traded to Cubs 2009 P Sean Burnett traded to Nationals 2009 P Ian Snell traded to Mariners 2009 P T.J. Beam on waivers to Blue Jays 2009 P Denny Bautista to AAA Indianapolis P Yoslan Herrera to AA Altoona P Tyler Yates on disabled list
The Pirates' record was 48-54 (.471) on July 24, 2008. Since then, it is 64-103 (.383).
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Charlie Morton will be making his second career start against the Cubs. He started a game for the Braves against the Cubs a year and a day ago on August 13, 2008. He didn't make it out of the third inning. The big blow off him was a home run by Jim Edmonds -- remember him? Geovany Soto hit a two-run double off Morton.
Randy Wells started and defeated the Pirates on July 1 in Pittsburgh, but the Pirates have remade their team since then. Three of the starting eight that day aren't on the Pirates any more.
The Cubs are on WGN today -- that's the only TV; there is no Pirates telecast. For other games today see the MLB.com Mediacenter.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Please visit our SB Nation Pirates site Bucs Dugout.
Overflow comment threads will post today at 2:15 pm, 3:15 pm and 4 pm CDT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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I swear Morton is the Bleacher Beer Tossing Guy....
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 14, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
haha +1
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Aug 14, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
beer ball
damn another strike.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Hopefully he's not as accurate as the tosser.
Tosser is officially that douche’s nickname in my book. It’s a play on words…
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
They traded a few other items as well
http://424tales.blogspot.com/2009/07/pirates-trade-stargell-and-wagner-to.html
http://www.theheckler.com/news/templates/?a=3040
"What, you want to tempt the wrath of whatever from high atop the thing?"
-Toby Ziegler
AAA team is a great description
A sweep, and nothing less, is both expected and needed. St. Louis is playing San Diego this weekend, and then the Dodgers. Time to make up some ground, hopefully!
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Aug 14, 2009 11:04 AM CDT reply actions
this sounds bad but if the Cubs don't sweep this team, they're going
nowhere
COOL BEANS!
by lexmarklover on Aug 14, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Let's see, the first step to a sweep is win game one. How about we start there?
Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?
A sweep is never an easy feat, no matter who the opponent is.
The Pirates may look inferior on paper, but there is a reason why the games have to be played.
Agreed.
I never like to expect or predict a sweep – of any team. Unfortunately, the Cubs have put themselves in a position where only a sweep can redeem this wretched homestand.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
Would it even redeem it?
Honestly, going in, I would have been disappointed with 3-3
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 14, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, redeem it to the extent possible at this point.
A .500 homestand isn’t good, but it’s better than nothing.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
So there's a chance?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 14, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
IT'S HAPPENING!!!!!!
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
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depedns on what
you were trying to do. :D
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
good point
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 14, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
well, I copied and pasted
It was ok
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 14, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
What's up kids?
I didn’t bother to read yesterday’s recap and its subsequent comments. What’s the mood?
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Yep and because 98% of people have jumped off the ledge
and aren’t here anymore.
Easy to count everyone as happy if it’s just you.
by IllinoisCubs on Aug 14, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
one
one
one
one
one
…
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?.....
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
Oh, I'm still here. Never say die until the Cubs are 2 behind with only one left to play.
Every winning streak starts with game #1. And that’s TODAY!
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
by Zeke on Aug 14, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have equal amounts of doubt and hope,
but want so desperately to believe we can make it.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Let 'em jump
More space for me in the living room. Plus they can’t jump back on if fortunes turn.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 14, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Plus they can’t jump back on if fortunes turn.
You underestimate the flexibility of fans.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I guess there are
quite a few contortionists out there in fandom. :)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 14, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Why not?
They pays their money, time and energy.
If I jump off when they are 10 games back and they come back, I’m jumping back on and no one is going to stop me.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
Go ahead
but bandwagoners are the worst kind of fans.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 14, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess we'll have to live with that assessment
The Cubs aren’t a religion or a calling.
They are entertainment. If a TV show doesn’t satisfy me, I don’t watch. If it picks up later, I watch.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
I wouldn't call it quitting...
But stepping away for a while isn’t necessarily a bad thing for some people.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 14, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
and that is your opinion
it isn’t a fact
by HardForharden on Aug 14, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Unfortunately, they CAN jump back on. And will.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
It's a new day
Hopefully it’ll stay positive as long as they play well
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 14, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
All is well!
Pirates are coming! Look at the pretty wins! Pay no attention to the good teams behind the curtain!
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
Oh... but if the Cubs lose today
I wouldn’t come in here unless you had on a hazmat suit and your immunization record is up to date.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
But what can the haters say that's not been said?
And in the other hand, what can the “superfans” have to say in their defense?
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
The blue Kool-Aid tastes great...
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
You underestimate the haters, chilango
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 14, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
that's only cause
they have joined the dark side
I didn't either...
No BCB, no online sports news sites, no CSN for me.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 14, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Oswalt is usually tough on us...
Wait… wut?
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 14, 2009 11:31 AM CDT reply actions
Any idea if Aramis is back in the lineup today?
Al’s link only says he’s expected to be in the lineup, but that’s not the same.
caption
Geo: You know ryan, just because you cant see me doesnt mean i cant see you
Demp: Crap
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 14, 2009 11:34 AM CDT reply actions
Soriano: Can you guys see me?
Geo & Demp: Ummm… no?
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 14, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
"I don't regret this. But I both rue and lament it."
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
what woe!
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 14, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Why is their no Pirates telecast?
Has FSN Pittsburg just given up?
"No enemy is more dangerous, than the enemy that has nothing to lose." Mark Grace
by GateCity, VA Cubs Fan on Aug 14, 2009 11:36 AM CDT reply actions
* there
"No enemy is more dangerous, than the enemy that has nothing to lose." Mark Grace
by GateCity, VA Cubs Fan on Aug 14, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
They're in Indy
With the real team
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
It appears FSN Pitt does not televise weekday "day" games.
Neither do the Padres. I can’t answer for the Pirates, but a Cox CATV (Cox is the rights holder to Padres telecasts) official told me ratings for day games during the week are awful in SD. I’ll have to assume that’s the case in Pittsburgh.
And, strangely enough — telecasts for Padres Friday night games on the road are usually just as bad. So, this year Cox decided to drop some Friday night east coast games from the schedule.
2 Friday night games, one at Washington and Florida — are dark.
This is a strange market, this San Diego.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 14, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
From Len & Bob Twitter feed
Ramirez has a bad cold and Bradley is dealing with a tight right hip. Both are in the lineup, as of 1130, but that could change. Len #Cubs
This line from a movie, television show or other piece of popular culture pretty much sums up my entire personality.
Just great...
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 14, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
randy wells also has a hangnail
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 14, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
and 'roids...
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
and a convertible
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 14, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Hem?
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 14, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
a convertible hem?
Skirt length up, skirt length down…
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
Fox in RF and Fontenot at 3B
Unless this comedy of errors continues and Miles gets the start at 3B—considering Fontenot is hidden in the darkest nook of Piniella’s doghouse.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
::shakes fist at the sky::
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Considering Fontenot is hidden in the darkest nook of Piniella’s doghouse.
that sounds about right. when lou uses miles to PH instead of… well anyone you know he put you in his dogouse
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 14, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
How can we get Miles into Lou's doghouse?
He seems curiously doghouse-proof.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Someone light the SWL-signal!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
For some reason...
…this reminds me of Ali G visiting the veteran, er, veterinarian.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
isn't that a little too tall
for miles though?
No, that llama is only 52 inches tall.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
darn it...
you need to make sure that there is a proper frame of reference when doing such. :P
i dont know...
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 14, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Miles is like that mean girlfriend we all had at some point
Your family hates her, your friends despise and make fun of her and even her friends talk behind her back. But you’re so blindly hypnotized by her that you just don’t listen to what these people—who actually care about you for real—tell you.
I had a couple of those in my day.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
But that's 'cuz she was smokin' hot and a total freak between the sheets
Aaron Miles is more like the girl you say is “really sweet, and she’s trying to lose weight, honestly!”
Meanwhile, she’s 10 feet behind you, shoveling cake into her face with one hand, flipping off your mom with the other, and kicking your dog.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
why not move Dome to RF
put Fuld in center and Fox at 3rd? I think I’d rather have Fox at third then Fontenot right now.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
who knows...
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 14, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
That would work for me.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
there's always a catch, isn't there?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
How do you get a tight hip?
Isn’t it a bone?
I SEE THROUGH YOUR FACADE, BRADLEY
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
seriously?
tendons and ligaments connect to your hip… :D
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
It said "tight right hip".
That’s like saying, “My skull is tight today, I can’t fax the TPS reports”.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
lol@TPS reports
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Aug 14, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
No. It's not.
A tight hip is like saying a tight shoulder, or tight knee… they’re joints.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 14, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
[insert Soto joke here]
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
You're really taking this seriously.
And ruining my making-fun-of-Bradley entertainment.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
well
use some emoticons or something… :D
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 14, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Internetz is serious business...
I couldn’t tell if you were being sarcastic or not.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 14, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
dood
no, it’s not.
Also, Bradley is the hottest Cubs hitter since the break. Just sayin’.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Uh-oh, Drew.
Please show me where you found that “stat”.
Because, since the all-star break:
and Bradley has a .863 OPS. </a
Oh, and Lee, Aramis, and Fukudome all have more HR and RBI than Bradley during that time. Don’t worry, I’m sure Bradley leads in walks or some other pissy statistics. Just sayin’, facts aren’t facts unless they are…facts.
Dan
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Whoops, nevermind.
Fukudome has 2 more BB than Bradley in 3 more PAs after the all-star break, too.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Len and Bob
said it yesterday or the day before.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm really unclear what he would be the "hottest" in.
Because it’s not HR, RBI, BB, R, H, OPS…do you see a pattern here?
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
he's probably the hottest since they finally moved him to the 2 spot
and he started picking up a bit before that
It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.
by shake n bake on Aug 14, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Not sure if serious...
But the hip joint is very prone to injuries, like the shoulder joint.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 14, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Cubs tight lipped on Bradley's right hip.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
Dan might flip
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 14, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Anything can happen
we have a lot of games against below .500 teams, let’s get it started today.
Trivia from my morning paper…..in 1969 the Mets fell 9.5 games out of first with their loss on this date. Anything can happen.
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
There's a memory I could have done without today...
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
Of course we would all feel better if we were chasing us.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Uh, what?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
The Mets were chasing the Cubs in 69
So if we were the Mets of 69 in his scenario, then we would be chasing the Cubs of 69. Thus the Cubs chasing the Cubs, and then I’m sure we would have a much better feeling.
Or maybe I just need some more coffee.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Here is the thing
If we win one game more per week than the Cards for the next month, when the cards come to down we would be square. That isn’t exactly out of the question.
Just a side note, the 03 cubs were 2.5 out on August 31. If we make up 2 games by then, I feel real good.
And with the way this season has gone, would i be stunned if the cubs swept the pirates and the cards got swept by the Padres, no, and it will be jubilation here from all again come Monday!!!!!
(waiting for the first senseless person to say) "This is the most important series of the year".
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
hasn't it already happened?
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
This is the most important series
of the year, of my LIFE!!!!!!!!
by niuhuskie224 on Aug 14, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT SERIES OF THE YEAR
IF WE DO NOT SWEEP, WE. ARE. DOOMED!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
coughcough must win coughcough
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
Even with us struggling
ESPN says that we have a 72% chance of winning.
"No enemy is more dangerous, than the enemy that has nothing to lose." Mark Grace
by GateCity, VA Cubs Fan on Aug 14, 2009 12:09 PM CDT reply actions
winning what?
the game? This series? The division?
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
the game
"No enemy is more dangerous, than the enemy that has nothing to lose." Mark Grace
by GateCity, VA Cubs Fan on Aug 14, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
you know
I can’t decide if that’s good or not — only a 72% chance of winning? Yeesh. :P
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
world series
of poker
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 14, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
the opening coin flip?
crap that’s right, not quite ready for football season.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Pressures off The Cubs will win
Over the last couple days the Cubs put to much pressure on themselves.
Now that the pressure is off they’ll put a streak together and maybe some confidence to beat batter teams.
The Cubs will be great in 2008!
Pressures off?
Hardly… the pressure is on more than ever IMO.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 14, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Besides
We don’t want to coast into the post season like last year and come up soft when the heat is on. We want to be hungry and needing to win the very last game to make it into the postseason and then carry that momentum all the way to the WS. This is how it should be.
by 100yearitch on Aug 14, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, we want the Cubs to enter the playoffs like they did in 2007, not 2008
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 14, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
actually at this point, I'll take them entering any way they can.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
TWSS?
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 14, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes, TWSS
It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.
by shake n bake on Aug 14, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
...
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Crap...
Is that Miles on the far left?
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 14, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
sure, here's one...
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by carmen_fanzone on Aug 14, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
good lineup, lou
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 14, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Can we do just this the rest of the afternoon, please?
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Do all the girls have to be in a straight horizontal line?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
that is one of the silliest questions you have ever asked sir
the answer is a resounding NO
OK....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
chilango, you act like you've never searched for porn before...
LOL
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by carmen_fanzone on Aug 14, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course I haven't!
My wife installed CyberNanny on my puter…
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
LOL
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by carmen_fanzone on Aug 14, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
position players only?
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 14, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
my god
it’s full of stars!
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
*sigh*
Blue question mark box… access denied.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 14, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
There's only 8 of them, who doesn't get a girl?
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Why are we only starting 8?
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
You didn't hear
Miles is starting, regardless.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
I like who Lou has batting fourth.
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 14, 2009 12:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i forgot about ONEDEC...
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 14, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
did they just announce him?
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Lineup!!!
Theriot, SS
Bradley, RF
Lee, 1B
Ramirez, 3B
Fukudome, CF
Soriano, LF
Baker, 2B
Hill, C
Wells, P
so you don't like the lineup?
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by carmen_fanzone on Aug 14, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
eh not really, i just don't like theriot hitting leadoff even though he's hitting .348
theriot looks better 7 or 8 but that’s me :)
COOL BEANS!
by lexmarklover on Aug 14, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
pretty strong statement to Lou for a "eh, not really"....lol
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by carmen_fanzone on Aug 14, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
no Soto
I hope Rami is feeling better. And bradley’s back in the 2 spot.
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Bruce Miles says Lou isn't happy with Soto
I can see that, but Soriano keeps playing?
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 14, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure.
Because it makes sense to keep running Soriano out there when Fox can actually hit.
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by Bill Potter on Aug 14, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Lou has 18 million reasons...
Why Sori needs to play everyday.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 14, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah . . . I know
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 14, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Hello Soto?
No Soto.
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Good to see MB and Aramis in there...
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 14, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
yay muffin man
hopefully the fontenot experiment is over
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 14, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
with the way Baker has been playing
he should start at 2b every day.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
if miles gets cut and andy white stays
all is well in cubbie middle infield land
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 14, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
If Sandberg and Dunston come back
All is better than it is today.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 14, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder
if Sandberg today could outplay Miles today.
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably looks less silly running the bases
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 14, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
and swinging the bat, probably
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by Bill Potter on Aug 14, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder what Dunston thinks when he sees Theriot throw
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 14, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I bet it starts with
“Oh, god…”
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
"How come that's not going into the stands?"
“That one wouldn’t even make the stands! Sheesh!”
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Well, it's a start
But why the insistence on batting Theriot first?
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
lou is stuck on having a LH batter in the 5 hole
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 14, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
ahh i get it
start Koyie Hill because Soto has apparently hit this guy before….that makes sense.
by HardForharden on Aug 14, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Lineups via Yahoo!
Ramirez at 3b, Bradley in Rf, no Miles
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 14, 2009 12:22 PM CDT reply actions
swing and a miss
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by carmen_fanzone on Aug 14, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
What!?
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 14, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
that would be a "late scratch" from the lineup card...
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by carmen_fanzone on Aug 14, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
its a conspiracy
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 14, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Never question Drew again.
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I believe
I called it.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Here - borrow this:
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wewt!
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
from the reds?
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by carmen_fanzone on Aug 14, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Reds seemed to be getting rid of vets...
First Weathers, now Gonzalez.
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by carmen_fanzone on Aug 14, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
the red sox have like 10 SS
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 14, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
As opposed to our 1/2
Life just ain’t fair sometimes…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
are you saying
that you think Theriot is bad?
by HardForharden on Aug 14, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
he's a below average fielder and his approach at the plate is at times questionable
COOL BEANS!
by lexmarklover on Aug 14, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm contractually obligated to say the following:
Not according to UZR.
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and the Theriot can of worms is officially open for business...
LOL
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by carmen_fanzone on Aug 14, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Then let's trade him to UZR. They can have him.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Just adding some balance to the conversation.
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you left out his horrible baserunning an inabiltiy to get anyone out on a ball hit to his right.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
ahh
I forgot…we should hate the guy that is batting .300…that makes sense
by HardForharden on Aug 14, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Here we go.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I just don't see
why anyone can hate on Theriot…
by HardForharden on Aug 14, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
You want the list?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
OK
- Can’t decide whether to hit for power or contact. Generally makes the wrong decision based on game situation.
- .300 at the plate doesn’t count for much when you follow that up with TOOTBLANs
- Defensive range is limited
- Slow grounders == awesome chance for an E6
- The double-clutching, always with the double-clutching!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Nobody is complaining about his batting average. Put him at 2nd base and just about all the complaining would stop.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
except for after those ABs when he thinks he's a power hitter
It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.
by shake n bake on Aug 14, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, yeah...
but we have to deal with that after Milton Bradley’s ABs sometimes too.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
No, no
Hendry thought Milton Bradley was a power hitter, not Milton.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 14, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't hate Riot
and I think he’s been playing better then he did last year. But I’d like to move him to second base where his arm is less of a liability.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
He isn’t walking as much as last year, but he hasn’t made nearly as many boneheaded baserunning plays either.
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 14, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
when you hit a lot of HRs
you cant make baserunning errors
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 14, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
define
“a lot of HRs”
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
to theriot
7
to me, whatever pujols hits
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 14, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty much how I feel...
…though I think he’s overachieved at the shortstop position defensively and isn’t quite as bad as many claim. I wish the Brewers weren’t in our division – I understand J.J. Hardy will likely be traded during the off-season.
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well
first we trade Miles and Heilman for ERIC LIND and then we send Lind to the Brewers for JJ Hardy.
GETI TDON EJIM!
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
eric lind?
is he the child of eric hanna and adam lind?
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 14, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
yes! :D
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
So Dave Kaplan does post here!
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 14, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
He's taken fewer walks than Soriano this year.
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 14, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
sweet
since when did anyone care about walks? I thought everyone hated on Milton Bradley because walks aren’t important….
by HardForharden on Aug 14, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
You paint with a broad brush my friend.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I am just restating
what I have read on here before, when Bradley was walking, nobody was happy. lol
by HardForharden on Aug 14, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Some of us were...and still are.
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When he was batting in RBI spots...
Batting 2nd he can walk all he wants.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 14, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I wasn't his walks that caused the hate....it's WHERE he was batting when he drew them.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
yea
but you could put Aaron Miles in the 5 spot and he wouldn’t drive in too many runs either…lol. Bradley had a crazy year last year, and I think our scouts judged him more on that than anything.
by HardForharden on Aug 14, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I hate our scouts.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
More than anything about this organization.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
I'm
happy with Milton’s walks.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
walks aren’t important….
they just clog up the bases.
You can't win in the postseason unless you can manufacture runs. - Hall of Fame 2B Joe Morgan
don't hate him ... just think the Cubs can do better
COOL BEANS!
by lexmarklover on Aug 14, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
and since when was the
leadoff hitter job to strictly walk? it is to get on base…his OBP is 50 points higher than Sorianos…do I think Fuku should be leading off? yes…but why are you hating on Theriot, it is sad
by HardForharden on Aug 14, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
SS is probably the 2nd most important position behind C and maybe CF
stats are whatever but just watching him, he is a very very very average fielder.
COOL BEANS!
by lexmarklover on Aug 14, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Pitcher is pretty important
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 14, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Just being a smartass
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 14, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Thats alot of very for average.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
and a very very very below average thrower.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
yes I agree with that
move him to 2nd, where his arm isn’t a liability, he is a good hitter. I would say we have the 2nd best SS in the division behind Tejada, and he is old. I would take Theriot over Hardy
by HardForharden on Aug 14, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm guessing you put a lot of stock in batting average, don't you?
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well his
OBP is like .350 which isn’t bad…Fuku’s is like .390 which is above average
by HardForharden on Aug 14, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Right - Dome should be batting leadoff, not Theriot.
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yes
I agree with that….I am not saying I don’t. I am saying that Theriot doesn’t suck.
by HardForharden on Aug 14, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, Hardy's in AAA now, so you really can't count him..
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by carmen_fanzone on Aug 14, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
He's had an awful year at the plate...
…but he’s still a very good defensive shortstop. We wouldn’t be complaining about his arm.
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He's the bizzaro Theriot.
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by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
you would take
Ryan Theriot over JJ Hardy?
BA/OBP/SLG/OPS/OPS+/ErrR/UZR/WAR
.299/.351/.413/.765/1.5/4.6/9.2 - Ryan Theriot- JJ Hardy
.229/.300 /.367/.667/75/2.1/8.7/13.4
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
curses.
stupid formatting.
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
like how you struck through
ryan’s name & jj’s stats
Soooooo...what was supposed to happen here?
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it's supposed to compare
BA/OBP/SLG/OPS/OPS+/ErrR/UZR/WAR
.299/.351/.413/.765/1.5/4.6/9.2 Ryan Theriot
.229/.300 /.367/.667/75/2.1/8.7/13.4 JJ Hardy
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
sorry
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Right - that's just this year, though.
Compare their numbers from last year – and tell me whether Ryan Theriot will ever hit 20+ home runs. Also, Hardy’s WAR is still noticeably higher.
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I know
I was suggesting that taking Ryan over JJ was not a good idea.
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah, so we're in agreement.
I should have known!
Actually, I’m not saying Hardy is a slam dunk – but it’s hard to believe he’s simply forgotten how to hit. And I really don’t know what it would take to get him – especially within the division. But I’ve always admired the guy’s skizzzills.
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teachable
even
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Right
so you would rather take a 20 HR SS who is going to hit .230 than a 10 HR SS who is going to hit .300….right. I guess we do need more Soriano’s on our team
by HardForharden on Aug 14, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Slugging is more valuable than batting average.
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career average .262 hitter.
i would take .262/20 HRs over .300/ HRs
COOL BEANS!
by lexmarklover on Aug 14, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
he had 2 years
where he batted good…well above average for a SS. He has had 3 years where he has batted below average….so I mean, he has pretty much shown us what Soto has so far, and everyone gave up on him it seems like
by HardForharden on Aug 14, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
i think everybody would be very happy if he gets moved over to 2B
it suits him the best. And also, nobody is mad theriot hits .300, i just think that as an NL SS you need to hit for more power.
COOL BEANS!
by lexmarklover on Aug 14, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
good
I agree with moving him over to 2nd…because I think he is a solid player. It would be nice if he could hit with more power, but what can you do. I am just standing up for Theriot because I think there are a lot worse things about this team. lol
by HardForharden on Aug 14, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
but most of the worst things about his team...
involve injuries. Theriot’s problems are physical, but not because of injury.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
not really
unless you consider long slumps to be injuries. Yes the Ramirez injury has been extremely bad, but we have shown that not 1 of the other 7 hitters can pick up the slack, which is pretty pathetic (I purposefully counted Lee out). If you go back to the start of the season, Lee, Soto, Bradley, and Fontenot all were batting below .200.
by HardForharden on Aug 14, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait, who are we talking about?
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ADAM LIND!
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
absolutely
I would.
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by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
way way way wait...you said he was BELOW average.
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very very very very below average
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by lexmarklover on Aug 14, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
verily below average.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
3,097.2 innings at SS in his MLB career
8.1 UZR – that’s over eight runs saved over a league-average replacement
Again, just pointing this out for perspective.
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jk but honestly i would rather have derek jeter than ryan theriot fielding wise
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by lexmarklover on Aug 14, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
uzr for dj = -34.7
but that’s just me
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by lexmarklover on Aug 14, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
hanley ramirez= -24.2 (much fewer games though)
former cub alex gonzalez (i thought was an outstanding fielder) = -1.3
jose reyes = 8
rafael furcal = -26.6
I would take any of these players over theriot. But yeah these numbers are a little surprising.
COOL BEANS!
by lexmarklover on Aug 14, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not saying UZR is perfect...
…but that’s a pretty huge sample size for Theriot now. And those ratings are based on every play of every game, which most of us don’t see.
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Not bad
For a guy who can get to around 2/3s of the balls a major league SS should be able to get and who seems unable to throw the ball in the air to 1B without a double-clutch.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
11 if that beckett deal didn't go through
COOL BEANS!
by lexmarklover on Aug 14, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
So do we resign Theriot at the end of the year?
And, if, so, how much is he worth?
Appreciate his limitations but like him as a Cub.
He'll want...
Aaron Miles money.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 14, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the last time we faced Charlie Morton...
…Soriano got this
I blame Jurjjens for falling down the clubhouse stairs and injuring himself.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Charlie Morton sounds like a guy who owns a restaurant.
“Come on down to Charlie Morton’s Steakhouse! Free dessert with the early bird special!”
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Charlie Morton is the subject of my sentence....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Morton's has actually declined in the last few years
It’s a damn shame too. They had a great steak. Now it’s below average, just like Charlie.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Charlie is average
For a AAAA pitcher.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Always does, right?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
He's got a pretty good fan base though..
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 14, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
That must be what made me think of it.
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If you combine Charlie Trotter's with Morton's, you get Charlie Morton's
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 14, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
And whaddya know - it's lunchtime and I haven't eaten.
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Tiger Woods starts @ 130 pm central.
I think I’ll watch that instead of this game. Free on PGA.com!
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Tiger could hit 5th on this team.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
can he field a ball up the middle?
…will he double-clutch on the throw?
how is he with RISP?
"I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix."
-- Dan Quayle
Wittenmyer and Sullivan are absent from Twitter today
I’m not sayin’… I’m just sayin’…
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Zell finally fired them?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Trib didn't want to pay their travel expenses to the game...
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Isn't this a home game?
Oh iswydt
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 14, 2009 12:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Zell can't fire Wittenmyer just quite yet
But I would walk on my knees to Our Lady of Guadalupe’s if he fired the latter.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Getting drunk at Murphy's.
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Paul Sullivan is the beer-tosser!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Bloody tosser!
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Good trivia on WGN News
Who is the only MLB player to be ejected from a game without ever having appeared on a line-up card?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Ted Lilly?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Think so.
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That can't be
“Ever” must mean never ever on a lineup card.
Lilly is certainly not the only player to be thrown out of a game that he wasn’t playing in.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 14, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
In their MLB career
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
ohhhhhhhhh
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The guy who threw the beer two nights ago?
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 14, 2009 1:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
this guy
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 14, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Trivia Answer
Bill Sharman.
From Wikipedia: From 1950 to 1955 Sharman played professional baseball in the Brooklyn Dodgers minor league system. He was called up to the Dodgers late in the 1951 season but did not appear in a game; as a result of a September 27 game in which the entire Brooklyn bench was ejected from the game for arguing with the umpire, Sharman holds the distinction of being the only player to have ever been ejected from a major league game without ever appearing in one.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
That is kind of sad. Poor guy never got to play?
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 14, 2009 1:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yup
Gets one cup of coffee, and the only thing notable about it was getting tossed.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Lou on the current state of the Cubs..."What can you do?"
God I am sick of that line.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
yeah!
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 14, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
He also mentioned the injuries
Bonds’ knees weren’t exactly the greatest joints in the league the last couple of years he played…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Soto has great joints...hasn't helped him
"I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix."
-- Dan Quayle
Eases the pain a bit, no?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I wouldn't know, but there is a Medical Marijuana store across from my office
"I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix."
-- Dan Quayle
Does being a Cub fan qualify for the medical status needed?
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I'll walk in with my Marmol jersey next week and see what happens
"I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix."
-- Dan Quayle
Just don't walk into the wrong store. :)
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ummm
the cubs have already been there and done that.
I hear he was a real sleeper.
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new lineup
Theriot SS
Fuld CF
Lee 1B
Fox 3B
Kosuke RF
Soriano LF
Baker 2B
Hill C
Wells P
COOL BEANS!
Oh Sweet Mother of All That is Good and Pure
That reeks of suckage.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
Smells like...Des Moines!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
at least it's not Cedar Rapids
now that’s a smelly Iowa town.
It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.
by shake n bake on Aug 14, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Corn + Pigs?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Quaker Oats plant
It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.
by shake n bake on Aug 14, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
And until recently, rotting vegetation/debris on the floodplain....
MLBMilestone.com - following the numbers to Cooperstown
Unbelievably bad odor
in Cedar Rapids.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 14, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Get yourself to Beardstown, IL sometime
You can smell the screams of the hogs.
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Looks all ass-backward to me.
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at least it doesn't have Miles
and has Fontenot on the bench to hopefully prevent a Miles appearance.
It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.
by shake n bake on Aug 14, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
This will certainly level the playing field with the Pirates today.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
well
not as much power as we had 20 minutes ago.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's hilarious
Good ole Lou. Don’t actually change the lineup because different players are playing, just insert them into the same spots as the people they are going to replace, regardless of whether their skill sets suit that position in the lineup
I like this line up a great deal
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 14, 2009 1:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Warm day
Wind blowing out – sounds like a good day to be a ballhawk
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Crappy lineup sort of...
Negates the wind factor. Maybe Lee or Fox can hit one out.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 14, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Does he sing most of the anthems?
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
doesn't he sign for hawks and bulls too?
COOL BEANS!
by lexmarklover on Aug 14, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Just the American one.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 14, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
This season
I’m ok with it – he’s got a pretty decent voice.
Maybe he should do TMOTTBG…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Anyone else, possibly in the Eastern Iowa area
getting a black screen with a No signal message on WGN?
It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.
Onedec is batting second! Onedec is batting second!
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WOOO
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 14, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I've got a bad feeling that guy is going to do something against us.
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Overslide 2nd base?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
No, overWALK 2nd base
I hated that guy. I don’t care if he goes 8-8 with a double cycle today. He’s a dumbass.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
overrun second base?
what he’ll do is make a lot of good plays on D. Which will make us jealous.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
don't know
he made the hard ones look easy and the easy ones look hard
TWSS?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
And apparently
This is also the First Pitch Thread. Shouldn’t have had The Riot Debate, I guess…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Lotta white
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
it'sbased on a rumor
that Sullivan essentially made up.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 14, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
saw that this morning
I’d only be happy if Jim got canned as well. We can’t let Jim hire our next manager
for the pirates
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 14, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
As a Pirate, yeah - think so.
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Where's the first pitch thread?
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You're soaking in it
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Necessary?
I will if things are going too slow here…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
cool - let us know
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Probably should - this one is gonna slow down ridiculously.
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So Al forgot the First Pitch Thread again?
You can't win in the postseason unless you can manufacture runs. - Hall of Fame 2B Joe Morgan
so Al is imitating Soriano today ?
"I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix."
-- Dan Quayle
Should create an emergency ersatz thread?
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
THAT'S OUR ONEDEC!!!!
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props to Riot for the non-double clutch
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tapped to the right side
Baker throws him out. Three up, three down, essentially.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
so...
CALL YOUR SONS CALL YOUR DAUGHTERS CALL YOUR FRIENDS CALL YOUR NEIGHBORS, RANDY WELLS ESSENTIALLY HAS A PERFECT GAME GOING INTO THE 2ND
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 14, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
jump
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2009/8/14/988741/first-pitch-thread-cubs-vs-pirates
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