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Hitting hero Jeff Baker. Who knew?

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Hitting hero Jeff Baker. Who knew?

It was quieter at Wrigley Field this afternoon; the jets appearing at the Chicago Air & Water Show didn't make their main entrance till after the game was over, and Cubs bats poked out just nine hits and three runs, but it was enough for their second straight win over the Bucs, 3-1.

I almost feel sorry for the Pirates. Wait, yes, I do feel sorry for their fans, who at this point have to pay to watch what is essentially a Triple-A team on the field. However, I think I'll save this until after the Pirates leave Chicago, and hope the Cubs sweep them tomorrow.

Jeff Baker was the hitting hero today -- he hit his second homer as a Cub and drove in a first-inning run with a single. The single might have led to a big inning had Derrek Lee not been thrown out trying to score; Lee took a reasonable chance and Andrew McCutchen made an outstanding throw to Ryan Doumit to get Lee out.

Baker is hitting .500 (14-for-28) over the last seven games, all starts, at second base and appears to have won the job, at least for now, making Mike Fontenot a bench player. I'm still puzzled as to why Aaron Miles keeps being sent up to pinch-hit and is left in the game, while Fontenot rots on the bench. I asked Mike, sitting next to me, when Miles came up, "Should I write down the 4-3 putout now or wait till he actually does it?" Mike told me to wait. I should have just done it, as that's exactly what Miles did.

Star-divide

Tom Gorzelanny's third outing as a Cub starter was kind of in between outstanding start #1, and bad start #2. He again failed to field a bunt and nearly slipped, the way he did in Colorado on Monday. That one wound up as a hit for Pirates pitcher Zach Duke, although Gorzelanny's throw was pretty wild. I won't put that all on Gorzo, as Jake Fox at 3B should have made the play, calling off the pitcher, as the ball was right in front of him. All of this helped lead to Pittsburgh's only run of the day, on a sac fly by McCutchen.

Gorzo was done after that, having run a fair number of high counts in five innings, throwing 83 pitches and striking out eight while walking three. His ERA dropped by nearly a run, from 6.23 to 5.24, and gives him a good base for starting again, likely the first game of the series in Los Angeles next Thursday. The bullpen did a fine job today, giving the Pirates only a pair of hits over the last four innings. Just as he did last Saturday in Colorado, Carlos Marmol threw a scoreless inning and threw strikes (12 of 18 pitches). Now, he has to build on that by doing it the next outing, and the one after that and...

You get the idea. Pirates manager John Russell left Duke in to throw 113 pitches, which was really unnecessary; he's going to wind up blowing out the arm of the best pitcher on his staff if he keeps doing that. Needing runs with a man on first and one out in the seventh, he let Duke bat; Duke executed a nice sac bunt, but it meant nothing. That's a real message to your bench -- "you can't hit", and to your bullpen -- "I don't want you in the game".

Enough. It was nice to see Aramis Ramirez feel well enough to pinch-hit today and single; I presume this means he'll be back in the starting lineup tomorrow. Let's sweep these guys, and hope the Padres cooperate tonight and beat the Cardinals.

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First? Yeowza!

Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...

Amen.

by Zeke on Aug 15, 2009 5:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Brooms out folks. Finish the deal tomorrow.

Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...

Amen.

by Zeke on Aug 15, 2009 5:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No mention of Guzman's two solid innings of relief?

Essentially sealing the start?

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Aug 15, 2009 5:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I mentioned the entire bullpen did a good job today.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Aug 15, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about Fuld's catch ?

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How did I know you were going to ask that?

Yes, it was a great catch.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Aug 15, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well since you knew I would ask

next time he crashes into the wall you can mention in the recap. I am still hoping to see it on MLB network.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure you will.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Aug 15, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Outstanding catch

and after running inthe wall he acted stunned like a bird who flies into a window. They played it over and over. I was surprised he jumped right up the first time because he hit the wall hard!

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Aug 15, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You'd think by now

he’d know there are bricks under that ivy!!

"Cub fans don’t give up!" -Ron Santo, 8/12/2009

by Allie on Aug 15, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It came in #2 on ESPN Web Gems

Not bad but needs to work on getting to #1. I never watched to see if the somersault catch a few weeks back made web gems but I assume it did.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 16, 2009 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's Bake's homer.

Here is Fuld’s catch:

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=6108747

Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?

by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 15, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you wait the

link Drew has does show Fuld’s catch.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Aug 15, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

guess i have no patience..

Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?

by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 15, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's ok.

I just don’t have a lot going on so I have the time to wait.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Aug 15, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks !

I gonna go out on a limb and say Sori does not make that catch.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

probably not.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Aug 15, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is a serious concession from you Drew

I appreciate your honesty.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soriano

has never been great at going back to the wall without any care for personal safety. :D

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Aug 15, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Baby steps. :)

"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly

by ambrosiadreams on Aug 15, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll join you

on that limb.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Aug 15, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about Ryan Theriot's leadership?

Randy Wells - You continue to astound me.

by DGU on Aug 15, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about the vendor in Section 217 giving the correct change every single time?

Geez Al, get with it, will ya? Don’t you know you exist to cater to all of BCB’s every whim and need?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 15, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ba-ppppsht

the vendor in 403 is better.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Aug 15, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al knows what is good for him

If he wants a fresh Big Gulp before the game I expect Fuld’s accomplishment’s to be mentioned in the recap. Mind you I wont be at
a game for about two weeks but I am usually good for one Big Gulp.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

pretty demanding, aren't you...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 15, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm what can I bring by for you next time ?

Some REAL NYC bagels ? Home made chocolate chip cookies ? Everybody has their price especially with
foodstuffs.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuld mentions guaranteed next time he does something good.

I’m still waiting for him to get his first major league RBI.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Aug 15, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bagels, schmagels...

…and please – home made chocolate chip cookies are my specialty.

But I’m always on the lookout for the world’s best cheesecake – heavy and light. So if you think there’s a cheesecake in NYC that’s up to the challenge, bring it on out.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 15, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate cheesecake

So I can’t say . I hear Juniors and Baby Watson are good. More rarified ones are Eileen’s & S&S/
I can get my hands on a slice of the first two but other ones require you to buy the whole cake. Have you ever tried any of them ?
Back in HS I sold Eli’s one summer at Chicago Fest at Navy Pier but I never ate it. Do you consider it that good ?

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 16, 2009 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh... Eli's is okay, but I'm thinking more local, regional offerings...

…although for a national franchise brand, the Oreo cheesecake at the Cheesecake Factory is pretty durn good.

It’s kinda like ice cream – sure, a national brand like Haagen Dazs is good, but Graters (out of Cincinnati) blows it away. And there are probably other smaller, regional brands as good or better than Graters.
 
Believe it or not, the best heavy and light cheesecake I’ve had are both from Jewish delis in Cleveland. Well, the Jewish deli should be no surprise, but Cleveland probably is.

Corky and Lenny’s on the East side serves a cheesecake so heavy, you need two plates under it. It’s bent more forks than Uri Geller. But man oh man, every stomach thudding bite is sinfully delicious. For the fluffly, light, and exquisite variety, Max’s on the West side had the most heavenly offerings. Sadly though, I believe Max’s is closed now.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 16, 2009 5:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miles

You gotta think they are hoping he can get a few hits and they can find a way to trade him……that is the only thing I can come up with as to why he gets to play

by cozmotaylor123 on Aug 15, 2009 5:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe they can get a set of retread tires for the "Cubmobile" in a trade for Miles...

Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...

Amen.

by Zeke on Aug 15, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not at this rate.....

if he could get a few hits in a row………..Maybe

by cozmotaylor123 on Aug 15, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's have some fun and think of Cubs alumni we'd rather have on the roster...

I bet Dwight Smith or Doug Dascenzo would give us decent production…

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on Aug 15, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right now I can think of...

… ten pitchers from Cubs history I’d rather have pinch-hit than Miles:

Fergie Jenkins
Rick Reuschel
Kerry Wood
Carlos Zambrano
Mark Prior
Rick Sutcliffe
Jim Bullinger
Mitch Williams (yes, Mitch Williams, who once hit a three-run homer)
Shawn Boskie
Mark Prior

… and that’s just off the top of my head.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Aug 15, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeff Fassero?

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Aug 15, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steve Trout?

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on Aug 15, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I tried to pick pitchers who could actually hit.

Bullinger could actually hit.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Aug 15, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then I guess Marquis should be on that list, too

A much better hitter than what Miles has shown this season.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marquis hit over .300 one season...

I don’t remember which one though.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dont remember that

but the grand slam against the mets may be my favorite Marquis moment ever.

by Allie on Aug 15, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So was I

Marquis was SO excited . I figure every relative and anyone he went to HS with was at that game.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone for Bob Buhl

Once thrown out on a base hit to right field

by Employee22 on Aug 15, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buhl holds the record...

… for most AB for any player in a single season without a hit.

In 1962 he went 0-for-70.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Aug 15, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's worse

then Aaron Miles AND Nefi.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Aug 15, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You could put a blind-fold on those guys

and have a more interesting AB than Miles.

"Cub fans don’t give up!" -Ron Santo, 8/12/2009

by Allie on Aug 15, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or maybe just put a blindfold on Miles

and give him a cigarette, while you’re at it.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You could take an AB

And have a more interesting AB than Aaron Miles.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Aug 15, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't knock Eddie!

He’s got a career 1.000 OPS, after all!

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Aug 15, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mark Prior...

… is TWICE as good a hitter as Aaron Miles.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Aug 15, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

GREG MADDUX

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That list begins and ends with the one and only Neifi Perez

Yes, I believe Miles is that useless that even Neifi would be an improvement. But if that’s too much for you to stomach, then I offer up Jose Macias as an alternate.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 15, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miles is like...

…that thing you really, really wanted; but once you got it, it just kind of sat on the shelf — a reminder to think before you plunk down all that hard earned beer money.

by LeSaboteur on Aug 15, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with everything you just said

except for the “really, really wanted” part.

This line from a movie, television show or other piece of popular culture pretty much sums up my entire personality.

by ScottieG33 on Aug 15, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miles PHing against LHP isn't horrible

he’s almost competent against lefties .648 OPS before today.

That’s about all he’s useful for. A pinch hitter off the bench vs LHPs .

It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.

by shake n bake on Aug 15, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I STILL don't like him...

sorry.

I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted - George Best

by Blue W on Aug 16, 2009 3:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I totally agree with something Pinella said on the pregame

All of our call-ups and late acquired players have done their jobs or exceeded expectations (paraphrasing). What he didn’t say was Miles sucked and Soriano can’t hit his hat. The reason we’re not further out is because guys like Baker, Wells, Hill, Fuld and Fox have saved us. I wish some of the higher paid professionals could take note.

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Aug 15, 2009 5:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

In defense of one of those

“higher paid professionals” Derrek has really bailed us out a lot. He’s been down right awesome since May.

Tweet from WrigleyGirl:


RT @cubsBAM2: Derrek Lee with a single, has now hit in 88 of 102 games this season #cubs

"Cub fans don’t give up!" -Ron Santo, 8/12/2009

by Allie on Aug 15, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree completely

I think DLee has held this team together by almost by himself. I am specifically calling out Soriano and probably Soto to some extent. Bradley was on this list until the last few weeks.

Brenley mentioned it during thegame but Sori is ahead of every pitch he swings at. He has not made an adjustment all year and continues to make the same mistakes over and over again. It’s like he’s going to do it his way and if it doesn’t work then so be it. I am tired of watching him do nothing for this team.

Miles is easy. Never bat him again, he should not be on this roster with the way Baker is going. I would much rather have Blanco back when he comes off the DL.

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Aug 15, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I offer again...

… to take up a BCB collection to pay off Miles’ 2010 contract, ask them to release him and tell them WE will pay him to NOT play.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Aug 15, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If only it was that easy Al!

I just can’t understand why he keeps getting AB’s??? He did not hit at Iowa on the long rehab and has not hit at all this year. What am I missing?

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Aug 15, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish I knew.

Other than having possession of the large Collection of Compromising Photos of Jim Hendry & Lou Piniella, I can’t think of a single reason.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Aug 15, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about the Cubs raise ticket prices...

…by 90 cents? Every ticket should say on the back, in fine print, that 90 cents of your ticket goes towards the Aaron Miles relief project. Find me one Cubs fan that would be against that.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Aug 15, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW, that's his contract of $2.7 million...

divided by 3 million (the Cubs attendence).

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Aug 15, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why not a dollar

And instead start the Aaron Miles scholarship, given to the student who shows up for class every day but still gets D’s.

by Danwood on Aug 15, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

awesome concept

I think I would be up for the Carlos Marmol scholarship.

It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.

by shake n bake on Aug 15, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Simple, Jimbo just isn’t ready to admit to another one of his disastrous off-season decisions.

…and the team suffers for it. If I were Lou I would bury him at the darkest end of the bench and use pitchers to PH before Miles. Maybe then Hendry would cave.

by JB 23 on Aug 15, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He had a terrible offseason.

But he made some pretty good deals during the season. Grabow, Gorzelanny, and Baker all look like solid pick ups.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Aug 15, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no question....but he needs to own up for Miles and DFA him

….this is beyond ridiculous. Miles probably even wonders how he is getting AB’s

by JB 23 on Aug 15, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

Is it time for all of us Cubs fans to sit JH down for an intervention?

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Aug 15, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He sure needs one here

And along with DFA’ing Miles you can add to that letting/ forcing Lou to sit Sori until he learns to handle outside pitches. Even in my fantasies I know they won’t be able to trade him, it’s long past time to deal with Soriano cause he’s not going anywhere.

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've got a soft spot in my heart for Sori.

I know that’s the minority opinion, but I think he can still turn it around.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Aug 15, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

while we may go to the post without him

we’re going nowhere IN the post without him. He needs to pick it up. I stand up for Sori as much as I stand up for Bradley, but at least Bradley is really producing now.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Aug 15, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't get why people think we're going no where without Soriano

the guy is HO-RREN-DOUS at the plate in the post season.

by Illicat on Aug 15, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and

we’ve gone nowhere in the post-season.

Thus, if he can produce, maybe we’ll go somewhere.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Aug 15, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's a rather simplistic argument, is it not?

Same could be said of anyone on the roster – yes, even Aaron Miles.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 15, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll flip it around, too (also in a simplistic manner)

Every year the World Series has been played, the winner has gotten 0 hits from Alfonso Soriano. Seems it can be won without him.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 15, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And it can be lost with him producing as well.

See: Mariano Rivera.

"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.

by Goodie1969 on Aug 16, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

I suppose. He’s proven (in the past, at least) that he can carry the team. If Derrek Lee could hit in the post, that would help. Aram too.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Aug 15, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I'm sure it's just pride

Or maybe he’s trying to see if there’s any possibiity at all that Miles might become at least slightly productive, if only to showcase him for a trade.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is no way in hell Aaron Miles gets traded.

None. Period.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Aug 15, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You never know

Somewhere, there might be someone who thinks they can fix him.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh no, I know.

OT, that’s still the best avatar on BCB.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Aug 15, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wish I could take credit for it

First time I saw it, I just about spit water all over my computer screeen, I was laughing so hard. Thanks to you, and to Clutch16 for making it.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I "Heart" Blanco.

I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted - George Best

by Blue W on Aug 16, 2009 3:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Piniella

I also understand that Lou said yesterday that he is staying through 2010. Although some believe he should leave and find a reason to back out gracefully, I was glad to see he is not going to cut and run.
Good for you Lou.

wccubfan

by wccubfan on Aug 16, 2009 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on Aug 16, 2009 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Count me as # four

I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted - George Best

by Blue W on Aug 16, 2009 3:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

six!

uh, Five!

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Aug 16, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

About those pirates...

Had they retained all those position players they’ve traded away recently, they’d have a lineup featuring Jason Bay, Xavier Nady, Nate McClouth, Ryan Doumit, Andrew McCutchen, Wilson, and Sanchez, plus the LaRoches. Now I know technically that’s 4 OFs, but that’s a problem that can be worked around. But what I’m saying is, given the high values that we assess right now for all those players (Bay in particular), wouldn’t the Pirates be a pretty good offensive team right now? And it’s not like they really got much pitching talent for any of those guys, anyway.

by msquared10 on Aug 15, 2009 5:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That'a a really good point

On paper, at least, that sounds like a pretty good team.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When you put it that way

That sounds like a lineup capable of scoring some runs

by madcow256 on Aug 15, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes it does...

Plus, Jack Wilson and Freddy Sanchez were a heck of a DP combo.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only problem is, that team would have cost money

And that is something the Pirates seem to be allergic to

by madcow256 on Aug 15, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes but they would actually have to PAY those guys

so was never going to happen.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 15, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pineiro

is due for a stinker, right?

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Aug 15, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Piniero will return to his old form starting...

NOW

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 15, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stauffer needs to be solid tonight.

I feel dirty cheering for the damn Padres.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Aug 15, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Missed most of the game

sitting in the doctor’s office waiting room (just a routine checkup). But hey, if that’s what it takes to get a Cubs win, then I’ll do it!

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Aug 15, 2009 6:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hope all is ok.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Aug 15, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just routine

except for the waiting for two hours to see a doctor part.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Aug 15, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, I think that's pretty routine as well... ;-)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 15, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bah

today he was really behind.

Not that behinds had anything to do with the exam.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Aug 15, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm really appreciating Baker

more every day and glad to see Lou starting him at second most games now. Fantastic catch by Fuld in the 9th. Let’s sweep them tomorrow.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Aug 15, 2009 6:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 15, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, computer malfunction

I’d like to see Soriano make that catch Fuld did.

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 15, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

never happen IMO

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Aug 15, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

omg

I agree with you! Baker has been a real steal thus far!

Go Cubs Go!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Aug 15, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 out of 3, at home against the Pirates...

Is not good enough, considering where the Cubs are. A sweep is a must!

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 6:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Cards are underway

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 15, 2009 6:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Eckstein walks...

1 on, 1 out for A Gon.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 6:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Single to right...

1st and 3rd, 1 out for Headley

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 6:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Strike 1 and 2 were ridiculous.

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 15, 2009 6:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice!

Bloop single over Schumaker makes it 1-0 Whale’s Vagina!

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Aug 15, 2009 6:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Headly singles!!

Run scores, Gonzalez to second!

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 15, 2009 6:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yessir

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Aug 15, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

1-0 Pads...

1st and 2nd, 1 out

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 6:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

2 outs...

still 1st and 2nd.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 6:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Kouz flies to left

Nobody tags

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 15, 2009 6:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Stauffer, you better throw a shutout buddy...

I think the Pads just reach their maximum number of runs…altough I really hope that continues Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 6:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm silently reading your posts.

Change is inevitable; progress is optional.

by Devin B on Aug 15, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Watching the Bears

while reading the posts in here.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Aug 15, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

me too

Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?

by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 15, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This just in...

…Albert is good at hitting a baseball. Can we find out he’s on steriods already, so I can stop admiring him.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Aug 15, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holliday homers...

3-1 St. Louis, 92% game over.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 6:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Pads lineup...

Is almost as bad as the Pirates, and some guy named Stauffer is pitching…doesn’t look good, but I’ll follow on gameday and hope.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to see the Pads sack up and win at least one

then lie down early next week and let the Cubs roll over them.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be nice...

Main thing is Cubs sweep Pittsburgh tomorrow.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

With Harden pitching

I’m feeling good about going 3-3 against Pennsylvania this week.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean...

I’m 92% sure the game’s over.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please, don't be

I’d say it’s about 90 percent that the game isn’t over.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, NBF you're right...

But I don’t have much faith in this Pads offense, and Stauffer.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope they give a monster contract based on his one hot month

he isn’t nearly as good as he has displayed since being in StL

Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by DC Cubbie on Aug 15, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He sure isn't

And you think he’ll come back to earth soon.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Granted.

But I’d prefer to see him out of the NL central.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Aug 15, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The guy who really needs to come back to earth

is Julio Lugo. He flat-out sucks, or at least he did until he sold his soul at the foot of the Gateway Arch.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's rate the best 1-2 punches in the game...

1) Mauer/Murneau

2) Pujols/Holliday

3) Braun/Fielder

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lee/Ramirez ain't bad when they're both healthy.

Only problem is I can’t seem to remember that anymore. sigh.

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True...

But not as good as those combos, in my opinion.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes I have to agree, facts would show otherwise.

Only this year has Lee regained his groove, with Ramirez playing solid the last two years and now injured…that’s part of what i meant by how i cant remember them healthy…even when they both were, Lee wasn’t producing. It’s such a shame Ramirez has that shoulder problem now…what they could do together this year would be amazing to see, and without that happening you surely can’t say they are in the caliber of those your mentioned.

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you take a literal interpretation of that phrase and taking the positions into account

the best 1-2 punch in the game would have to be either Zambrano – Barrett or Lilly – Molina.

My vote would be for Zambrano as that was a true punch. Lilly was more of a total pwning…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Aug 15, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To me it's one or the other with Holliday...spend way too much money on him and keep him,

Or have enough money for Pujols in the future. Either way as a Cub fan seems to benefit us. I don’t think the Cards have a chance at signing Holliday…he’s got Boras as an agent which means he will be shopped for a high price and there’s no way the Cards will want to strap the team with an offer that could mean they don’t sign Pujols. That would get management run out of town with a foot up their ass.

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait -- if you live near STL

you’d have the game on cable from Fox Midwest — unless you live in Illinois.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 15, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like he said.

Idiots.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Aug 15, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know, but Fox Midwest

isn’t on cable systems in Southern Illinois, to the best of my knowledge. EI has placed the wrong blackout restriction on the screen — it should say in “Cardinals Market Area.”

If SET was on the west side of the river, obviously — he’d see the game.

And, of course if you want, you should be able to see any game you desire. We’ve gone over that over and over.

By the way, enjoy Cox4/SD on Monday night, those of you on EI. It’s a rare Padres telecast on the package, since it is a WCIU game — and those are not made available to EI. At least Matt Vasgergian is no longer a factor. It’s a better telecast without him, unless Mark Grant is making an ass of himself.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 15, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fox Midwest isn't on cable in Southern Illinois?

I’ve seen it in Carbondale and Marion, I know.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Eckstein strikes out...

That guy and his crow hop from short always pissed me off, now I don’t like him even more.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 6:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Best Fans in Baseball (TM)

gave Eckstein a standing ovation last night before his first at-bat. When Rolen came to STL with the Reds earlier this week, they showed on TV a montage of standing O’s Cardinals fans had given past players who returned for other teams. Even So Taguchi got one.

Absolutely nauseating.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blah...

It’s like DeRo getting a HUGE ovation everytime he batted when Cleveland came in.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes and no

One standing ovation for DeRosa, in his first at-bat, I can handle. After all, he was a contributor to two division championships. (Any other standing O’s he received were unwarranted, particularly when he came to bat with runners on base and the Indians trying to come back. That was embarrassing.)

But a standing O for So Taguchi is beyond ridiculous.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

However...

DeRo was also a key contributer to the playoff disasters…for example bases loaded 6-4-3 DP on a 3-1 pitch in 2007, game 3. Plus, key error in 2nd inning of game 2 that would have gotten the Cubs out of the inning with no runs scoring.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, he was

I don’t want to get started on DeRo’s pluses and minuses, but his more fervent supporters often overlook that.

I guess the point I’m trying to make is that some returning former players are worthy of standing ovations and some aren’t. Cardinals fans hand them out like John D. Rockefeller handed out dimes, and I think that’s less from heartfelt emotion and more because they don’t want to ruin their reputation as the Best Fans in Baseball™.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed...

Edmonds standing ovation was warrented, I believe.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha ha...

John Mabry sucked…with the Cubs at least.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh I think he sucked overall too.

Just had one career season with the Cards…yikes that sounds familiar….not just Miles…Gaetti, Zeile, heck I’ll stop there cause I just will get depressed.

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've got a great Mabry story

I was waiting by the players lot in 2006 to try to get a ball signed. Mabry comes out and and I ask him if he can sign my ball. He looks at me incredulously and says “You sure?”

He ended up signing the ball and posing for pictures too. Good guy.

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Aug 16, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a great story

Mabry apparently lives in the St. Louis area now. He appears on Cardinals telecasts from time to time.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 16, 2009 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd bet if the Pads were

battling for a division, or the Cards were battling for the basement there would be no such tribute. It’s easy to be nice when you know your opponent has, historically been dogmeat against you in SD and StL.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 15, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's an enigma to me.

After cashing in with his WS MVP, he hasn’t played up to expectations for sure, but he’s also been on bad teams. I think it’s possible he could turn it around on a winner but not likely and definitely not worth the risk of signing him.

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah. He's very smug and egotistical.

Nothing made me more happy than seeing Lilly run him over…

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed 100%

When he claps his hands and throws the bat after a foul ball, there’s not much worse than that.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When the Cards got out of the gate early with a great (and unsustainable) april hitting

The media in St. Louis immediately proclaimed Molina as now a GREAT hitter…and I’m not exaggerating. I heard the broadcasters saying how he would help carry the team and hit over 300 from now on. Haven’t heard much since he fell back to earth…he’s gotten better lately, but is hitting .289 with 5 HR and 39 RBIs. not bad from your catcher but certainly nothing like they said was fate…which is why I try not to listen to local sports shows there. They drink koolaid for that team like nothing I’ve ever seen.

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Chicago media often is too critical of the Cubs

but what goes on with the St. Louis media and the Cardinals is beyond embarrassing.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is Miles worse than Neifi?

I say yes, at least Neifi was a good defensive shortstop…altough he came across as a jerk.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 7:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah Neifi was decent defensively. He also had a short period of hitting that helped.

That’s still like asking if Flutie was a better Bears QB than Avellini.

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2009 7:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's do some off-topic fun!!!

My favorite movies of the 80’s

1) Raiders of the Lost Ark
2) Die Hard
3) Ghostbusters
4) Rocky III

My favorite movies of the 90’s

1) Die Hard With A Vengeance
2) The Fugitive
3) Shawshank Redemption
4) Home Alone

What’s your list?

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 7:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Piniero walks...

Are you freaking kidding me?

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 7:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This game potentially affects the Cubs...

So I do get worked up by it. However, since the profanity seems to bother you…I’ll do my best to keep my language in check from now on.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's been our curse all year...walks coming back to haunt us.

I’m not convinced about Piniero being elite like Cards fans and media seem to, but he’s solid enough with the Padres it’s getting bleak at 4-2.

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2009 7:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The sad thing is...

Monday, if the Cubs are winning 4-2, I’ll think they’re about to blow it.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's just a typical Cubbie-fan neurosis

Nothing personal at all, but the same stuff that happens to the Cubs happens to all teams.

And I don’t think a two-run deficit halfway through the game is “bleak.” Maybe in the ninth inning.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

While most seasons I may agree with you about a 4-2 lead

The bullpen sure has given will reason to think that this year. I don’t think fans of other teams with better bullpens are thinking the same thing necessarily.

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cards OWN the Padres

So don’t expect anything this weekend. However, the Pads always (makes no difference where they are in the standings) play well against the Cubs in SD. I will go to the game Monday with much angst.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 15, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand, SDSJM,

but I just can’t get any more angst-ridden about this team. I want to enjoy the rest of the season, and let the chips fall where they may. Fretting about every little thing is sapping the joy out of watching baseball. I think it might be doing that for all of us.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I sure agree with you there. I do get nervous with a close game in the late innings

But I don’t expect to lose a game when it starts. I also don’t put a lot of stock in playing the Padres in San Diego this year being tough…it will only be tough if the Cubs make it that way.

by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 15, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I stopped fretting about this team years ago, to be honest.

The San Diego fans just take so much fun out of going to games here. It’s not as bad as what the Marlins did 2 weeks ago, but the Padres scheduled their 20th and 25th Anniversary celebrations of their 1984 Pennant when the Cubs came to town. They trotted out their 1984 throwbacks both times. They didn’t have to schedule the celebration then. It was a continued cheap shot.

I would hope they’d celebrate the 20th Anniversary of their 1998 pennant against the team they beat — Atlanta. I’d also bet if you asked, 8 of 10 Padres fans wouldn’t be able to ID the team they beat to go to the WS that year.

But San Diegans who weren’t born yet know the Pads beat the Cubs in 1984 to win the Pennant.

As I’ve stated several times, I prefer going to Dodger Stadium to see the Cubs. Those fans have plenty of pennants/titles to look back on. A three-game sweep of the Cubs is almost meaningless to them, because they fell on their face against the Phillies. I never have any problems in LA. In SD — Cubs fans, even when we outnumber Padres fans have friggin’ bulls-eyes on our backs.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 15, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's clarify a sentence

San Diegans who were born after 1984 can state in no uncertain terms the Padres beat the Cubs to win the pennant that year.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 15, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's too bad

I went to the Cubs series in SD in 2003 and enjoyed the city immensely. I’ve wanted to go back to see a series at PETCO, but now I’m not so sure.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I went to Game 1 of the '98 NLCS

This one.

I was offered a choice of seats – about 10 rows off the field a bit past 3rd base or 20 rows off the field directly behind home plate. I took the latter.

After an hour rain delay before the game, my date and I sat in our miserable, cold, wet seats for 7 innings worth of a pitchers’ duel (Ashby vs. Smoltz) and a little excitement towards the end. The game went into extras and after the Pads won, my date and I made our tired way back to her car and we left it at that. It was about 1AM and she had a 1/2 hour drive to get home. Did I mention she was a school teacher and had to be up at 5:30 every morning?

Good sport, good seats, bad game, bad series.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Aug 15, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neurotic as anything

Fun girl, but she didn’t have issues so much as a lifetime subscription.

Went on a couple of more dates with her before Teh Crazy kicked in. Ended up being her local thang a year later while she was (unbeknown to me) planning a move to Canada to live with some dude she met on the Internet.

Good times.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Aug 15, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

she didn’t have issues so much as a lifetime subscription

oh, I know this tune…

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Aug 15, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never judge a book

by its cover, I guess. Or even its first chapter.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You've got to be kidding me...

Molina picks off someone with the bases loaded.

Fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 8:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

SIghs.

How do you get picked off there? How

Change is inevitable; progress is optional.

by Devin B on Aug 15, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

because molina likes to show off

the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY

by jesus christos on Aug 15, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess that's why the Padres

aren’t good, although I’d love to see a replay.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Win tomorrow San Diego...

And then suck again for the next three days.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 8:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

7-4

Game over barring a miracle.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 8:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Luke Gregorson

Remember that name. The Cards have gone 2B, B, 2B, run scoring ground out to the SS, in which Molina made it to 3rd. UGH! If we go 1, 2, 3 against this chump, it will make my blood boil.

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on Aug 15, 2009 8:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

St. Louis is unbelievable...

Very good players (Holliday) go there and become unbelievable

Below average players (Lugo) go there and become well above average.

I swear, I will not be surprised if Holliday hits .400 the rest of the year.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now they're walking Khalil Greene to get to Colby Rasmus?

I swear, this lefty-righty crap has gotten out of control. The other day, the Astros intentionally walked Nick Johnson to get to Hanley Ramirez! Hanley got a base hit by the way.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 8:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pinch hitter looks at 1 and grounds out.

Who is running this group?

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on Aug 15, 2009 9:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Aaron Miles is the hitting coach

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on Aug 15, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

With Roberto Novoa as the pitching coach..

And Enrique Wilson as the Special Assistant to the manager.

Plus, Neifi Perez is the bench coach and Geovany Soto is the team’s nutritional expert.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A pitching change for a lefty to face Tony Gwynn JR?????????

JR! Not senior, JR! Jason Motte cannot face this guy???

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on Aug 15, 2009 9:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

5 pitch 8th inning.

Unbelievable

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on Aug 15, 2009 9:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I shouldnt point fingers

Cubs pull that shit a ton

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on Aug 15, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey leadoff walk!

If Eckstein gets on, Gonzalez is the tying run.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 9:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Long 2nd out

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on Aug 15, 2009 9:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yadi might be worse than Braun...

Remember, I said might. I can’t stand that guy!

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

done

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on Aug 15, 2009 9:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Even if the Cubs sweep...

I doubt they’ll make up any ground, except in the wild card race.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 9:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Clayton Richards pitches tomorrow for Pads

He isn’t bad, plus Loshe is pitching for Cards. Boggs is pitching against the Dodgers on Monday, against Billingsly. I would hope that is a Dodger win.

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on Aug 15, 2009 9:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I just want to see the Cards...

Hit a stretch like the Cubs in June, altough I doubt that will happen. I believe Kershaw pitches on Wednesday, so maybe L.A. will take 1 out of 3, yes I’m very pessimistic.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Strike that

Charlie Haeger the one time White Sox knuckleballer is throwing for his Dodger debut. Unreal.

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on Aug 15, 2009 9:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wait...

That means he may face the Cubs…if so, I’ll guess his line will be:

7 innings, 4 hits, 1 walk, 5 K’s, 1 run

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boy, you guys sound suicidal

Why don’t you all just chill? It’s a great day to be a Cubs fan.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 9:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't see one post that sounds suicidal

how about you chill, and allow people to feel a bit uneasy.

by Illicat on Aug 15, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Screw you

They don’t just sound “uneasy.” They sound like they’re ready to slit their wrists.

Jackass.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey...easy now.

That’s not necessary.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funny, I don't think I've seen such a perfect illustration of

a nonsensical, provoking idiot than you. Not this hour, at least. So you’ve got that going for you.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

provoking? I responded to you telling people they were suicidal

because they weren’t happy the Cards one. You’re the one who constantly takes it to the next level.

Whatever, there’s no point in keeping this going

by Illicat on Aug 15, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well Bruce...

It’s just frustrating, St. Louis is firing on all cylinders. Holliday is killing the ball, DeRosa seems to be doing well for them, heck even Julio Lugo is playing great. I’d like to hope they’ll cool off, but it doesn’t look that way right now…I sure hope that changes though.

NBF, suicidal is too strong a word in this instance, don’t you agree? Yes, I’’m very frustrated, but not suicidal.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know about that

If someone who didn’t know any better read some of those posts, it would sound like a suicide hotline.

If the season ended next week, I could understand your angst. It doesn’t end for seven more weeks. If Holliday continues to hit.475 for the next seven weeks, and if Lugo continues to hit .375, more power to them.

I don’t think that’s going to happen, however.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

NBF...

We are going to disagree on our interpretations of the posts. However, that is my point of frustration…it seems like any player that goes to St. Louis is sprinkled with a magic dust that turns them into amazing ballplayers.

Holliday has nothing but hit and drive in big runs since he got there, and Julio Lugo has played very well since he’s been there.

Heck, Joel Piniero has an ERA in the 3’s…Joel Piniero for Pete sake.

Will these players keep doing what they’re doing? Neither of us can answer that. However, the cavalry they’ve brought in show no signs of slowing down.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you're right on the "magic dust" part

Certainly seems like it sometimes.

Like I said, though, if you really think Holliday and Lugo can sustain these paces for almost two months … then they deserve to win. I’ll hypothetically bet you my next paycheck they won’t sustain those paces.

Let’s see if the Pads can win with Richard pitching tomorrow, then see how the Redbirds handle Manny and Co.

Hang in there. The fun part is just getting started. :)

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough...

Altough I’m not betting my paycheck on them slowing down :)

I’m outta here, good night NBF and everyone else.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You, too, CFW

If the Cards lose only six more games the rest of the season, which appears to be the current pace, I’ll stand on my head. Deal?

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 15, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As much as I, and probably a lot of people here at BCB would like to see that... :)

I’d like the Cards to lose about 22-23 more games, hopefully more, and have the Cubs take care of businees in the postseason.

Good night NBF.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

With that being said...

Not only does St. Louis have to slow down, the Cubs need to get their act together and win more ballgames…starting tomorrow with a sweep of Pittsburgh.

by cubfanwill on Aug 15, 2009 10:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

as i noted this morning

jeff baker is the cat’s meow!

by doofus cubs guy on Aug 15, 2009 10:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey all!

Just got in to San Diego … talk about jetlag! Over 13 hours of travel today.

Should be out and about tomorrow, and watch for me on the telecast of Monday’s game in San Diego (got tickets to that one).

I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime. The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 16, 2009 12:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good deal

Have a great trip. Make sure you go to Gaslamp Quarter. I’m sure SD Smooth Jazz Man can fill you in on better places to eat, but I liked the Fish House (I think that was the name of it) and Croce’s. Owned by the widow of Jim Croce, of course.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 16, 2009 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, I'll be sure to check those places out.

I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime. The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 16, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sandy Alderson Cubs president?
Sandy Alderson‘s name continues to pop up with teams facing some transition after the season. He has been mentioned for a possible team president’s role with the Cubs, assuming the sale to the Tom Ricketts group goes through, and also is rumored in an unspecified role in Toronto, where GM J.P. Ricciardi is unlikely to survive. - Phil Rogers, 8/16/2009

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Aug 16, 2009 8:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Alternate caption

In 2009, the role of Power Hitter (previously played by Reed Johnson) will be played by Jeff Baker.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Aug 16, 2009 10:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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