Cubs Minor League Wrap -- August 17
Quick note: Today in Baseball Prospectus, Kevin Goldstein wrote ($) "Midwest League scouts are wondering how [Brett] Jackson dropped to the 31st overall pick. . . Jackson's power/speed combination is moving him up prospect lists while others wait to get their pro career even started."
Thought you might want some good news.
Iowa Cubs (63-59)
The Iowa Cubs topped the Tacoma Raniers, 5-3.
Starter Casey Fossum got the win tonight, going five innings and giving up two runs on four hits. Fossum walked one and struck out three.
Blake Parker pitched the ninth inning and gave up a run, but qualified for his sixteenth save anyway. He allowed one hit, which was a solo home run. He didn't walk or strike out anyone.
I guess Andres Blanco is doing well in his "rehab" assignment. Tonight he homered and doubled in a 2 for 4 game. He scored twice and had the one RBI. Blanco also walked once.
Left fielder John-Ford Griffin was 2 for 5. Shortstop Darwin Barney went 2 for 4.
Tennessee Smokies (26-25)
The Smokies blinded the Chattanooga Lookouts, 3-2.
Chris Carpenter went five innings and allowed one run on only two hits. He did walk three batters, but he struck out four.
Dustin Sasser got the win in relief after he allowed the tying run to score in the seventh inning. Brian Schlitter retired all four batters he faced to get his 18th save. He didn't have a strikeout.
First baseman Blake Lalli was 2 for 3 with a two-run double and a walk. Right fielder Tyler Colvin was 2 for 4 with a triple. Shorstop Starlin Castro was 2 for 2 with a walk and a run scored.
Daytona Cubs (21-28)
The Daytona Cubs split a double-header with the Tampa Yankees, 3-2 and 0-13.
Ryan Searle started the first game and allowed only one run over 4.2 innings. He surrendered four hits, walked one and struck out two.
Jose Pina got the win, although he gave up a run over. 1.1 innings of relief. He didn't give up a hit although he walked two. Dan McDaniel got the final two outs for his first save without incident.
Third baseman Josh Vitters went 3 for 4 with a double and an RBI. Left fielder Jonathan Wyatt was also 3 for 4 with a ribbie. First baseman Jake Opitz went 2 for 4 with a double and a run scored.
In the second game, starter Billy Muldowney got rocked for five runs on six hits over 1.2 innings. He walked two and didn't have a strikeout.
Right fielder Brandon Guyer went 2 for 3. Third baseman Josh Vitters was also 2 for 3, so maybe everyone can stop panicking about him.
Peoria Chiefs (30-20)The Chiefs continue to roll as they apprehended the Quad City River Bandits, 7-1.
No one has been a bigger surprise this year than Austin Biebens-Dirkx. Tonight he went six innings and allowed only one unearned run on two hits. ABD walked two and struck out one. Since being signed out of the independent leagues in July, Biebens-Dirkx has gone 5-1 with a 1.93 ERA. His two walks tonight were the most he's allowed in any appearance all season.
For the third straight game, DH Ryan Flaherty homered. The third inning solo shot was his 19th of the season. Flaherty was 3 for 5 and scored twice.
Right fielder Kyler Burke was 2 for 2 with a double and two walks. He scored once and had two RBI.
Boise Hawks (26-30)
The Hawks won their fourth in a row as they stopped the Spokane Indians, 5-1.
Josh Whitlock picked up the win with four innings of shutout relief. The Indians had three hits and a walk off of Whitlock, but he struck out five.
Shortstop Hak-Ju Lee was 2 for 5 with two stolen bases and two runs scored. Second baseman Logan Watkins went 2 for 2 with a walk and two runs scored.
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Vitters
Nice to see him hitting well today. I had hoped that his early struggles at Daytona were related to his hand injury, it would be nice to see him finish out the season on another hot streak.
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Aug 18, 2009 4:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually
I am very slightly concerned about him. Not because of the slow start in Daytona, but because this is the second season in a row he’s had hand problems. If his career is derailed, it’s going to be because he can’t stay healthy and not because he can’t hit.
But without knowing much about the two hand injuries and whether or not they’re related (or even on the same hand), I’m not going to jump to any conclusions. And neither one was major—there didn’t seem to be any medical action take other than rest.
by Josh77 on Aug 18, 2009 5:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for
sharing.
Now that the Division is over – and Wild Card becomes dimmer still – we can discuss September call-ups.
I wonder if we will be seeing a “new” face that has not made it up yet? Due to injuries, it seems like we’ve had have of AAA up at one time or another.
Wonder who it might be?
by The E-Man on Aug 18, 2009 7:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think you will see anyone new
The won’t go beyond the 40 man roster. Stevens, Berg, Blanco, Scales will all come up and perhaps Toguchi.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 18, 2009 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Taguchi isn't on the 40-man roster.
You’ll likely see Blanco activated from the DL, Reed Johnson returning, Berg and Stevens returning, maybe Scales.
That’s five new bodies. I don’t see room for any more.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 18, 2009 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In regards to Brett Jackson
That is really good to hear. We could really use some quality outfielders in the chain.
It’s almost too late to bother sending up ABD to Daytona. I’m not quite sure what more he can prove in Peoria. I look forward to seeing his results in the FSL in 2010.
by tim815 on Aug 18, 2009 8:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pointed this out before
But with Daytona out of the race, and Peoria chugging for the playoffs, there was no point to make any move unless it was so absolutely obvious to make, and even then, maybe not even. Austin was a Indy League signing – he wasn’t going to be high on the charts.
by toonsterwu on Aug 18, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brett Jackson 2
Isnt this the same Goldstein that hammers the Cubs and also hammered the Cubs picking Jackson. Between Callis and Goldstein, Im not sure which one is more inept. Callis has alot of egg on his face for his ranking the Cubs 27 last year, which could if done objectively be around 10th but they wont do it, because it will make the 27 look like BA didnt know what hey were doing, which we know that answer!!!
by Slamdog on Aug 18, 2009 8:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well at least Goldstein is admitting his mistake
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 18, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except that he didn't make a mistake
I searched the archives at BP and can’t find any example of Goldstein ripping the Cubs taking Brett Jackson. What he wrote after the draft was
One of the best defensive outfielders in the draft, he has raw power, plus speed, and a very good arm, but there is a lot of swing-and-miss in his game.In an early mock draft in May, he predicted the Nats would take Jackson with #10. I think the original poster may be thinking of ESPN’s Keith Law, although I don’t want to check the archives there.
Goldstein did rank the Cubs farm system in the bottom five and even wrote an article about how the Cubs farm system got so messed up. But then he did add that things were starting to look up. Honestly, I can’t really argue with him on his points there.
by Josh77 on Aug 18, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, I checked
Both Keith Law and Jason Churchill at ESPN.com ripped the pick. There were some caveats that if he could cut down his Ks, he could be something special, but neither thought it likely.
by Josh77 on Aug 18, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
to be fair
I didn’t disagree with a bottom 5 ranking last year. With few blue chip prospects and few upper level assets, while I liked our potential, I understood the ranking. Now, I thought we would’ve been in that 21-25 range, but that’s not a big deal to me.
If we aren’t in the top 20 this year, I’ll be surprised. Actually, I think there’s an outside shot of a top 12 spot, but more likely, we will sit in that 15-25 spot. We’ve probably got the best system in the NL Central right now, and probably one of the better systems in the NL in general (for some reason, feels like the AL is stronger … pondering it right now, the Braves have a solid system, as do the Marlins and Phillies, Mets are a bit iffy as are the Nats. NL West? Dodgers … we’re on par basically, actually probably a bit ahead post-Bell trade, D-backs system is weak. Giants are solid, Rockies are solid, and the Padres are better than people give them credit for, but I think we’re probably ahead with Latos likely to cross the threshold.
As for the Jackson pick, I was always okay with it. Never understood the hate people had for it. Never understood the love for AJ Pollock that so many Cubs fans had. I agreed with Pollock’s general rating (late first), but I wouldn’t want to pick a guy with that type of skillset unless he was as close to a sure thing as possible. Even then, there are your Trevor Crow’s and there are your Jacoby Ellsbury’s. I feel like guys with Pollock’s skillset can be found later. Even if Brett busts and AJ succeeds, I would still be pleased with the pick. I was fine with the pick for a couple reasons:
a) Adds much needed upside to the system
b) The K’s were overstated, imo. He had a huge jump in K’s from his sophomore to junior campaign. Was it a concern? Yes. Was it end of the world troubling, as many claimed? I never saw that.
c) The reports were good about him with wood bats.
I’ve been impressed with Jackson so far, more because of the reports suggesting that he knows how to handle the bat, in regards to situational hitting. Add in the positive reports on his clubhouse attitude. That said, perhaps because I expected him to be fine in the lower levels, I’m still not reading too much into anything he does until at least Daytona. He’ll be there next year, though (unless they get really bold and bump him to Tennessee … I’d have a hard time seeing that, but who knows).
by toonsterwu on Aug 18, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
11 to 30
We understand that the Cubs dont have alot of wow. What I believe and I dont think people understand the depth between 11 and 30 could be as good as anyone in baseball and I’m willing to bet whether it would be BA or BP or any other baseball publication you can take our 11th to 30th and it will show that in five years we will have more major leaguers and few of those might be quality.
by Slamdog on Aug 18, 2009 2:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that's fair
and at the end of the day, rankings are simply to engender discussion.
I think in general (not you) but some people have this perception that the difference between a bad system and a solid system is a lot. It really isn’t. It could be as little as a difference one draft. Looking at where we sit right now, if it wasn’t for the 2008 draft, our ranking would probably be in the lower 3rd again.
by toonsterwu on Aug 18, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
we’re back up into the middle ten again. Probably closer to 20 than to 10 because of a lack of talent ready to start next season in the majors, but with Jackson getting drafted, Burke seemingly turning his career around, Carpenter proving healthy, Castro’s success in High A and Lee and Watkins off to a good start, I can’t see us possibly being in the bottom five again. If someone lists us there, it’s because they’re not paying attention.
by Josh77 on Aug 18, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been running some numbers
on an Excel File (really yukky looking) comparing ages and OPS/WHIP for minor league teams. I’m sure the info is more readily available if I were to look, but I want to find it myself. I’m considering all NLC teams, and might throw in a few more for variation.
What I’m finding is that our players tend to be younger than players in some organizations. Houston and Pittsburgh have more old players in AA ball than we do. For instance, in AA, we have one pitcher who is 25 years old (I consider age to be age on New Year’s Eve, for ease of my use sake). We also have one hitter who is 25. Pittsburgh, 8 hitters 25 or older, 9 pitchers 25 or older. Houston, 10 hitters, 10 pitchers.
Both teams have, ummmmm…., iffy systems. Both are rumored to be getting better. But our player ages ought to put us well ahead of either organization.
I’m slow with data entry, but I’ll try to keep you updated when I get data figured on the other NLC teams as per player age. As has been said before, everyone has organizational filler. But I’d rather have younger organizational filler than 17 or 20 guys in AA 25 or older.
by tim815 on Aug 18, 2009 9:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Houston has improved some this year, but their upper levels are pretty barren. Their most intriguing chips are largely lower down. The top three of Jason Castro, Jordan Lyle, and Ross Seaton is fairly nice, but a lot of unknown with the latter two, although both are promising.
Charlie over at bucsdugout did a top 30 for the Pirates the other day and Dejan Kovacevic did one as well. Too lazy to dig for the links right now. Here’s my take on comparing us – Pedro Alvarez would be the top prospect in either system, but I think a case can be made that 2-8 would be Cubs prospects. Maybe Tabata sneaks in there, but at some point, he actually has to show power, and not just be a guy expected to develop some power. Buying the Pirates system means buying their young talent. I like Marte and Rudy Owens, but in general, I’m not willing to buy their system solely on account of their young talent. They’ve had an excellent draft, so in a couple years, this could be one of the elite systems in the game, but right now, it reminds me of our systems a couple years ago, one top dog, a few decent chips following, and then a whole bunch of eithe upper level cup of tea guys or lower level upside guys.
The Cardinals system was probably a bit overhyped at the start of the year, solid and better than ours, but now, post-deadline, even with Shelby Miller and Wagner Mateo, it’s been stripped. I have to ponder the Brewers/Reds more. The Brewers largely seem to be stocked at the lower levels, with draftess like Jake Odorizzi and Brett Lawrie near the top of their charts. They’ve dealt some filler off. If Alcides Escobar still qualifies, maybe their system is up there. I doubt it, though, and with little pitching in the upper levels (there’s some decent arms, a lefty whose name is slipping me that I like as a sleeper) and the bulk of the talent in the lower levels, I think Melvin made the right choice in not getting too aggressive this year. The Reds … off the top, I think we’re better, but that’s one I’ll have to ponder some more. The loss of Stewart and Roenicke doesn’t help, but there’s still some raw talent, although some of the bats seemed to have stalled a bit, off the top.
by toonsterwu on Aug 18, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as always, thanks.
i’ll run similar numbers for the rest of the NLC, Chisox, Nats, Tribe, Angels, Bosox, and Royals. It’ll take a few days, but I figure the better systems will have lower-aged talent, nearly across the board. I will be interested to see my results for the Reds, as they could be a key measuring stick.
But if we are that much ahead of Pittsburgh and Houston at AA, I can’t see us being much worse than 16 overall.
by tim815 on Aug 19, 2009 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs





















