Late Night With The Cubs: Cubs vs. Padres Preview, Tuesday 8/18, 9:05 CT
by Al Yellon on Aug 18, 2009 7:00 PM CDT
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PrintThe best thing about last night's game is that it's in the past. There are still 46 games remaining in the season; many teams have made up six-game (or four, if you are looking at the wild card race) deficits with that many games left. I am well aware of the deficiencies of this team so you don't have to tell me -- but I still wait and hope for these players to play the way they are capable of. Yes, it can happen.
So let's move on. Rob Neyer at ESPN.com wrote today about the new Rawlings S100 batting helmets that could possibly help eliminate concussions such as the one David Wright of the Mets suffered over the weekend. He quotes Jeff Francoeur:
"No, I am absolutely not wearing that," Mets right fielder Jeff Francoeur said with a laugh after seeing a prototype, as if he were being asked to put a pumpkin on his head. "I could care less what they say, I'm not wearing it. There's got to be a way to have a more protective helmet without all that padding. It's brutal. We're going to look like a bunch of clowns out there."
A bunch of clowns? Really? Have you seen this helmet? It looks like this:
Looks like an ordinary batting helmet with extra padding. I'd think players would be racing to try these, especially after what happened to David Wright.
And, in the wake of yesterday's $15 million deal to Stephen Strasburg, ESPN's Jayson Stark has some ideas on how to fix the amateur draft.
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That 30.86 ERA for Carrillo is not a misprint. He has made one major league start, last Thursday vs. the Brewers in Milwaukee, and gave up eight earned runs (including three homers, one to his former college roommate at the University of Miami, Ryan Braun) in 2.1 innings. May the same be true tonight. Carrillo is a Chicago native who attended Mt. Carmel High School (alma mater of Donovan McNabb, among other pro athletes) and was San Diego's #1 draft pick (18th overall) in 2005.
Ryan Dempster had one of his best starts of the year vs. the Padres on May 14 at Wrigley Field, throwing seven innings, allowing three hits and two runs. Players currently on SD's active roster are hitting .175 vs. Ryan; Adrian Gonzalez has homered off him (as he has off just about everyone these days) but that is his only hit in eight AB against Dempster.
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Overflow comment threads will post today at 10 pm, 11 pm and 11:45 pm CDT.
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First is the worst!
(Second is the best.)
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Aug 18, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
MLB Network reporting Marmol named closer by Lou...
You can't win in the postseason unless you can manufacture runs. - Hall of Fame 2B Joe Morgan
on the positive side he doesn't give up many homeruns, on the negative side....
You can't win in the postseason unless you can manufacture runs. - Hall of Fame 2B Joe Morgan
When Gregg blows a save
it’s over quickly
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 18, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Indeed.
Cubs mgr Lou Piniella picks Carlos Marmol to replace Kevin Gregg as his closer.
Marmol era begins. Lou names him closer to replace Gregg.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Aug 18, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
If true
we go from walk off homers to walk off walks however they do give a little more time to warm up someone else.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 18, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
lolololololol
Oh Lou…
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on Aug 18, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
god damn it lou
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 18, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Lou lost his marbles...
He should have put Angel in there, Marmol might get a few saves, but he’ll also blow some by walking in the winning run.
by aznsensation on Aug 18, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Aug 18, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Well.. if he blows this decision, he's done..
I pray to the baseball gods (for Cubs fans, those would be Old Testament gods btw), that Marmol all of a sudden discovers the strike zone and shows what he can do – that would be great. If he doesn’t do it, Lou’s done. But really, I hope he does it. Really, Really hope. Marmol pitching to his potential is the exact thing the cubs need in the pen. let the fun begin…
by DisCUBbobulated on Aug 18, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Twittermyer:
Marmol era begins. Lou names him closer to replace Gregg.
and
Theriot back. Lineup: riot, milt, lee, rami, fuky, sori, baker, soto, demp.
This line from a movie, television show or other piece of popular culture pretty much sums up my entire personality.
Better but Fuld for Sori would be better still
Besides sucking at the plate, PETCO is a park for a contact hitter and fast fielder like Fuld.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 18, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
At least Baker is back in
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 18, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
One more week of not hitting, I think they have to bench sori..
That’s big coming from me – I’ve been one of his apologists all year.
by DisCUBbobulated on Aug 18, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Aug 18, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I like this lineup.
:) And I’m glad to see Baker is back in.
by CubsWin!Oregon on Aug 18, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank goodness Baker
is back in the lineup.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
I am really tired of "fuky"
“Dome” is a perfectly acceptable name.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
fuk u pal
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 18, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm assuming we are
If he was serious, then we have issues
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
Nice call, Francoeur
by coming out and saying, hey, it’s just my brain. It’s not like I use it.
It never gets to be easy
Ha! Nice one.
This line from a movie, television show or other piece of popular culture pretty much sums up my entire personality.
The kids...
…in the LLWS regionals seem to be sporting it, and they seem very well encased; almost to the point where there could be some problems.
I’d have to try it out before passing judgment…
Should I hurry home or get trashed at an event I'm at?
BCB, it’s up to you.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 18, 2009 7:10 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Drink now AND later.
Helps ease the pain.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Aug 18, 2009 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
So, stay for a while, drink here, on the way home and at home?
I sorta like it.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 18, 2009 7:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Provided you aren't driving...
I see no downside to this plan.
by CubsWin!Oregon on Aug 18, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's the plan
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 18, 2009 7:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Get trashed
and call a cab.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 18, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Then fight the driver over 20 cents...
Kidding.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 18, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Get trashed, then go home on watch the 9th inning...
You can't win in the postseason unless you can manufacture runs. - Hall of Fame 2B Joe Morgan
Get trashed
Will make watching game that much better. Wish I could.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 18, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
DRINK DRINK DRINK DRINK DRINK
BEER BONG
DRINK DRINK DRINK DRINK DRINK
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Did Lou
Forget that fukudome was doing REALLY well batting leadoff!
by cubbiefanTN on Aug 18, 2009 7:11 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Agreed.....
….Since he moved milt to the 2 hole…..he is over thinking the rh /lh thing, just give it a shot
by JB 23 on Aug 18, 2009 7:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm sure someone mentioned this elsewhere on BCB...
but a friend just sent me this Craigslist ad for Kevin Gregg.
He’s a good Oregonian though, so I don’t endorse these thoughts. (Actually, wouldn’t even if he was from elsewhere).
Copying and pasting it here...
… as i’m sure this will be flagged / removed at some point.
Hi, My name is Kevin Marschall Gregg. I’m 31yrs old and I was born in Corvallis, Oregon. I’m 6’6" and 238lbs of poor baseball ability. I seem to have lost my ability to pitch. I thought I saw you (ability to pitch) about a month ago, and then you suddenly disappeared. I have since angered the millions of Cub fans around the nation with my terrible pitching ability. I miss my fastball, which apparently has caused me to lose my ability to pitch. Maybe it’s my dorky glasses? Or the fact that I don’t chew with my damn mouth closed when I’m chewing gum? I’m not sure. Oh, it could also be the fact that I SUCK at my job. I should’ve been waived of my duties long ago, but my skipper is just the nicest guy around.
Well, if you or anyone you know has seen my fastball or my ability to pitch (that’s two items, but they should be together), please contact me ASAP. Thanks! :)
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Aug 18, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Two words....
Absolutely fantastic!
by cubbiefanTN on Aug 18, 2009 7:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The Al Yellon Reality Tour ... when DOES it start ?!?
I’m waiting for Al Yellon to pull his head out of his keester and admit that the 2009 Cubs are F.I.N.I.S.H.E.D. And have been so for weeks regardless the distance in the standings between the Cardinals and us.
But until Al Yellon is ready to look at things objectively and / or stops transmogrifying BCB into a social chat board for the kool-aid drinkers, then I guess we will have to deal with trial baloons floated like this one. Really Al??? A 42 year old John Smoltz whose arm hangs on by baling twine and can no longer get anybody out?!? HE’S the silver bullet solution.
79 to 83 wins folks. And no promise of the Ricketts family closing the deal to buy the Cubs until well after the offseason begins, meaning ONE more God-forsaken year of Jim Hendry at the helm.
Go Bears and Blackhawks.
"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)
Pound sand.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Aug 18, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Good to see you couldn't stay away
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 18, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions
He put it in the previous thread
but reposted when he saw he missed us.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 18, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, i noticed that. Reminds me of this:
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Aug 18, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions
And note, if the Cubs win tonight he will be nowhere to be seen tomorrow.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Just a random thought......
has anyone ever seen Blou?
do we know where he is from?
would he be willing to join us at a Cubs Convention?
is it possible AL is Blou……..think about it….AL’s job is to get people to stay on this website….he could be the one posting Blou’s thoughts????
give it a thought
by cozmotaylor123 on Aug 18, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Impossible.
We all know its SWL, who is also actually Deep Goat.
Follow me on twitter @andrewjstone.
by AndrewJStone on Aug 18, 2009 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I think BLou is your run of the mill internet troll
that farms gold on WoW on the side.
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on Aug 18, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Al is not BLou.
That is a real insult to Al.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
just a thought
people have done worse things for ratings
by cozmotaylor123 on Aug 18, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh... you were serious?
Follow me on twitter @andrewjstone.
by AndrewJStone on Aug 18, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
not really....
I watch too much Dateline
by cozmotaylor123 on Aug 18, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm gonna need...
… admin access to BCB / SBN so i can check IP addresses to be sure.
Follow me on twitter @andrewjstone.
by AndrewJStone on Aug 18, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah ha! A coverup!
Follow me on twitter @andrewjstone.
by AndrewJStone on Aug 18, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
How would YOU know, Mr. Sunshine and Rainbows?
You head is soooo far up your keester that… that… yeah! Take THAT! I told you!
Follow me on twitter @andrewjstone.
by AndrewJStone on Aug 18, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe you can dazzle us with another chapter of the religious tendencies of ballplayers
"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)
Interesting and insightful thoughts and analysis on the players for the team we all cheer for?
Why yes, that WOULD be great!
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by AndrewJStone on Aug 18, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait...
You don’t think the Cubs have a chance of making the playoffs?
When did this happen? You always seemed like their biggest booster.
by CubsWin!Oregon on Aug 18, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions
the cubs must go on without their general!
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 18, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
You're so delusional
and disturbed, might I add. For someone who has so much more to do, your life sure does revolve around this place…I mean, between posting on here constantly under different usernames and posting the same thing in different threads, where do you find time for other disturbed acts, like stalking, identity theft, threatening phone calls, etc.?
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on Aug 18, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
BLou...
I’m going to be honest. I always enjoy your posts, and in this instance, I spot on agree with you. Frankly, your post about how the Cubs have not been the same since the sweep of the Dodgers was one of the better fanposts here at BCB. Yesterday’s loss essentially was the final nail in the coffin, in my opinion.
And yes, I’m being serious.
There's always that one rotten pistacio in the bowl...
I kid, I kid :)
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on Aug 18, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think this team is very good...
Just my opinion, nothing wrong with that.
Believe me, I HOPE I'm wrong...
But I wouldn’t count on it.
And see, there's nothing wrong with that opinion, you're right
Where we all take fault is how this doofus feels the need to bludgeon us all over the head with his opinion, wanting to be right more than anything else. I mean, the dude posted the exact same thing in here that he did in the previous thread making sure everyone saw his inane ramblings.
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on Aug 18, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't hate on the Sox, and even generally appreciate them when the aren't playing the cubs...
… but its of note that Peavy seems to be getting killed, just KILLED during his AAA Charlotte start vs. the Durham Bulls.
4 innings pitched, 5 hits, 4 runs, 3 errors. Looks like that ankle isn’t quite ready yet.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
says only 1 error
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 18, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
oh
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 18, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Indeed i did. Sorry, my fingers got going faster than my mind.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Aug 18, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
And from what i understand...
… the error came on a pretty routine play to first base that he just couldn’t get to in time. Hence my “ankle isn’t quite ready yet” comment.
One of my buddies, a die hard Sox fan, is following play by play. He isn’t pleased.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Aug 18, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't put too much in minor league rehab starts
Especially for someone who has been out this long. It is all about how he feels.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 18, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
This is like Spring Training for him, except with the added caveat of him not wanting to over-stress the ankle. His first rehab outing was very impressive from a command standpoint, but one sensed it was a bit of an aberration. For a location type pitcher like Jake, it will take a while for him to get the feel back. He’s been out two months.
I would imagine that's what he's doing
not trying to fool batters, simply hit his spot, even if it’s completely obvious what spot he’s trying to hit.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 18, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
3 errors would be impressive
Almost Miles-ian
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 18, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Hah...
Via Len and Bob on Twitter:
Lou got a warning for jaywalking this afternoon in downtown San Diego. No ticket like Kenny Williams in Seattle, just a warning. Len #Cubs
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
lous living on the edge
someone get him hair gel, a motorcycle, and a leather jacket
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 18, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions
That must have been hilarious to watch
by JB 23 on Aug 18, 2009 7:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
"Look...
… what do you want me to say? What can i tell ya?"
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Aug 18, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Seems that Chicagoans have a penchant for breaking the law
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
probably got
about halfway across the road..stopped, looked around, adjusted his belt, thought a bit then continued on.
There goes one over the fence...a Tru-Link fence.
by truelinkfence on Aug 18, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
At least he didn't get hit by a car.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 18, 2009 7:27 PM CDT reply actions
I think there are some people out there
who would disagree with this statement.
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
I think most of the intelligent people would hope he wouldn't get hurt
That’s just a cruel and inhumane thing to hope for or want.
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on Aug 18, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not one of them!
I was just commenting on all the negative comments people make.
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
I know :)
Just so sad to wish injury on an old man like Lou or Brent Favre…I mean, spend those efforts on someone like Jimmy Clausen :)
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on Aug 18, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
So who screws the pooch tonight?
My vote…Heilman.
By the looks of that ERA... my vote is with Carrillo.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Aug 18, 2009 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Well he has only been in one MLB game
which obviously did not go well. Was a # 1 pick in 05 but had to have Tommy John surgery . As near as I can tell he was promoted
straight from AA where his numbers were decent but not mind blowing. BE PATIENT CUB HITTERS. Try it for a change.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 18, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
patient? whos that?
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 18, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Theiot has been sick recently
that’s what he means, right?
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 18, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
i guess
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 18, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Gregg took a beating for last night...
But the offense was pretty much let off the hook. 1-run and 10 LOB… against the Padres… is bad.
Someday we'll go all the way...
1 run is never enough
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 18, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Point taken...
But, your “closer” still screwed it up.
I saw a different game than everyone else...
I thought I would be able to make up some sleep and sleep after having dinner to this morning, but I woke up around 11. I caught the Lee triple, and Rami’s subsequent RBI, as well as Grabow’s fine pitching and figured the game was well in hand. My wife caught that stuff too because she stayed up, but she was working on a presentation as Gregg blew the save and lost the game, and when she came back up and saw that, she remarked, “They lost?!? How?!?” She’s still new to all of this…Anyways, I wish I could have slept through the game…
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on Aug 18, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I wish I could have slept last night.
Thankfully, I’m ignoring the rest of this series.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 18, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll probably catch the end of the game tonight too
I’m going to go see District 9 here in a few, so I should make it back to see the end of the game I would think.
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on Aug 18, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Heard great things...
… and then got roped in to the hell that was GI Joe. Let us know how it was!
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by AndrewJStone on Aug 18, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow...I'm really, really sorry.
I feel like I should send you flowers and a sympathy card :)
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on Aug 18, 2009 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously. I got ripped as hell before i went and it STILL sucked.
That just shouldn’t happen.
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by AndrewJStone on Aug 18, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Al, remember your internet grammer
I R not a prawns :-)
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 18, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Whoops.
KILL ALL THE PRAWNS.
District 9 is the best movie of 2009, besides Harry Potter 6. At least the most innovative.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
District 9 was incredible
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
District 9 was totally...
…rad. I just (seriously) hope they don’t do a sequel. It would cheapen some of the sentiment of the first picture.
Is Lou bordering on Dusty territory...
With all of these excuses and infuriating managerial moves? The trip to Colorado was too long, the altitude is a problem, it’s too hot in Cincinnati, it’s too hot in Florida, my horses are on the DL…
I still like the guy, if only for his comical interviews; but it seems like if we fall further out of this thing, people will be calling for his head… loudly.
Someday we'll go all the way...
Did anyone follow his stint in Tampa?
I’m just wondering if there are any comparisons that could be made.
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on Aug 18, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
It seemed like in Tampa...
He was fed up and decided to leave. A young struggling team, an unwillingness from ownership to spend money, he had enough.
Here, he’s had everything he’s wanted handed to him on a silver platter. And I think he may be pushed out this time. We’ll see.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 18, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
What would you like Lou Piniella do differently?
And how would that translate into a materially greater amount of wins? Of course nobody on this social network formerly known as BCB can answer these simple questions. Instead it will be another derby of bash the messenger.
The bullpen includes Gregg, Heilman, Marmol, Marshall, Grabow, Guzman. I’m pretty sure I didn’t glaze over the name of Goose Gossage, Bruce Sutter or Rollie Fingers, therefore making it SO BLINDINGLY OBVIOUS who Lou should go with as his closer.
"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)
I nominate BLou for closer...
he’s a gamer, he played in college, and most importantly it’ll get him off of the message board.
What in the hell are you talking about?
I asked if there were any comparisons that could be drawn to his stint in Tampa, as in, what else should we expect…not, what should he do differently. Way to completely see what you wanted to see there.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 18, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm.
Lou Piniella presided over a Tampa Bay team that was VERY young and had a payroll that was 1/5 th the current Cub payroll. So forgive me if I don’t see all the wondrous parallels that can be drawn between the Tampa Bay Rays circa 2003-2005 and the 2009 Cubs.
"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)
Here's one thing he can do differently
manage the bullpen better.
I know, I know, I shouldn’t respond to you considering I think you talk out your ass more than anyone else on this site. But you wanted an answer, which you didn’t think people would do, so there you go.
Likelihood of a response from you? I’d say pretty low. Plus, I thought you were leaving this board? If you hate it so much, STAY GONE!!!!!
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
What does "manage the bullpen better" mean???
"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)
Are you truly that agnorant?
That you don’t know what that means? Trotting out Heilman in high leverage situations is one. Not selecting Marmol for closer is two.
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
Hmmmm
So if not Marmol, then who !?!? And if Heilman is on the roster, then I sorta kinda guess that means he is going to be asked to pitch from time to time. And if not Heilman in those “highly leveraged” situations, then who?
I get the impression that the magical answer of the resident dipshits on this board is “ANGEL GUZMAN.” Sigh.
"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)
Knock off the namecalling.
Guzman is, in fact, the best choice for closer.
You are free to disagree, but NOT to call those who disagree with you “dipshits”.
Get it? If not, you could be in line for your fifth ban.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Hmmm.
So a 28 year old Angel Guzman who grew up as a starting pitcher, missed over 3 seasons because of three serious injuries and subsequent surgical procedures, and who is more or less a rookie pitcher should be thrust into the role of CLOSER??? Why? Because according to you it is so blindingly obvious.
"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)
Guzman is 27...
… and has been the Cubs’ most consistent reliever all year, throws strikes, and gets people out.
But I’m guessing that doesn’t qualify him to be closer in your eyes.
Open your eyes up and see what’s in front of you.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Hmmmm...
So in effect the membership of the BCB social blog is better equipped versus Lou Piniella and Larry Rothschild to select a closer out of the bucket of crap that are the 2009 Chicago Cub bullpen participants?
"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)
We all have our opinions...
… you included. That’s kind of what this site is for.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
blou wants gregg to be the closer because it makes it easier for the 79-83 wins to be correct
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 18, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
BLou = Al Yellon
"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)
This could be quite the meta-cognitive discussion.
Please continue.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
If Al had said
Al Yellon = BLou then I would have freaked….
by LT on Aug 18, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
no kidding
seems like he is allowed to call people whatever he wants
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
How about...
This past off-season:
“Hey Lou, I’m thinking about trading for Kevin Gregg, any thoughts?” – Jim Hendry
“Look… No!” – Lou
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 18, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I would say closer by committee
Depends on the situation, since we don’t have a true closer. I wouldn’t put Marmol out there every time the Cubs need a save, and yes, put Guzman out there and see what he can do. Put Marshall out there, see what he can do.
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
can we get a group of guys who would all share the managerial duties?
We could call it “The University of Coaches” or something along those lines
I don't think Marmol is going to work out either
based on his performance thus far.
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
You seem to be contributing to the 'social network.'
Why? This is bizarre. if you don’t like this — stop posting.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 18, 2009 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Lou had plenty of input...
The last two off-seasons of how he wanted this team constructed. He felt the need to get more left-handed by trading DeRosa and giving Fontenot the starting job, I’m sure he had some input in the Milton Bradley signing. He refused to move Soriano down in the order for almost 2 and a half years, he overused Marmol… and most damning… he starts Aaron Miles.
His in game managerial decisions this year have been extremely questionable, and even mind-boggling at times. I’m afraid it’s too late for Lou to do anything differently now, because the damage is done.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 18, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
At least Dusty's Cubs...
WON A GAME IN THE PLAYOFFS
Granted, Dusty completely screwed up the 2004 season.
Precisely HOW did Dusty do that?
The exploits of Dusty Baker fall very far down the list of what foiled the 2004 Cubs.
"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)
Because Dusty kept trotting out LaTroy Hawkins to blow saves a la Kevin Gregg...
Dusty allowed the garbage with Kent Merker, Todd Walker and the broadcasters. Dusty continued to trot Corey Patterson in the leadoff spot. Need any more?
Hmmm..
Who exactly were Dusty’s options other than LaTroy Hawkins in that 2004 bullpen? The entire bullpen was a trainwreck that season. Hawkins was the “best” choice for closer given the other highly dubious options.
"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)
Letting Sammy Sosa be a complete jackass
not controlling his team.
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
Sounds familiar...
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 18, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Interesting Note on Carrillo
Cesar was a grade above me at (the since closed) Inter-American Magnet School located only blocks from Wrigley Field at Sheffield and Barry. The land is now used by Illinois Masonic Hospital. Anyway, Cesar was the son of the gym teacher at the school. I don’t remember too much about him and didn’t realize he was such a top athlete until seeing his exploits at Miami. But a few of my friends from the high school baseball team remember facing his low-90s heat when he was at Mt. Carmel.
He wa the Pads #1 a few years back
He’s off Tommy John surgery. He made a few starts at AAA Portland — not terrible, but not great. They need starting pitching, so here he is. ERA after start 1 — 30+ .
Rough first inning for the young man in that first game……
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 18, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Whoops, Jessica posted a similar theme on Carrillo. Sorry.
I did see his next-to-last start at Portland v. LV. It was a pretty good effort, then the Beavers were pasted after he left the game.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 18, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Jeff Franceour is an idiot.
And he sucks at baseball.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
...and I would take him in a heartbeat over Alfonso Soriano
"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)
Jeff Francoeur swings at more first pitches than anybody in the game.
And he NEVER, NEVER, EVER walks. His OBP is piss-poor.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Piss-poor is an understatement
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
You're not kidding
I’ve never looked at his stats before… but in 33 G with the Mets so far… he’s walked 5 times. 5!
Thats… absurdly low. Wow.
fukudome can do that in 1 game while blind folded!
the cubs lineup needs moar LIND and HALLIDAY
by jesus christos on Aug 18, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
You're an idiot.
Franceour is a below-average offensive player, Soriano is more than above-average. Franceour is a good defensive player, and so is Soriano (at least by UZRs).
What does Heffy do better than Soriano? I’m confused.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Namecalling not needed.
But you’re right about Francoeur.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Yeah, sorry Mike, I didn't mean to call you an idiot.
I’ve never had a problem with you. My bad.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Hmmm....
What does Soriano make? What does Francouer make? What has Soriano done this season? What did Soriano do versus Arizona and Los Angeles in October baseball? I guess we also watch a VERY different defensive left fielder wearing a Cub uniform too.
"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)
Soriano has a positive WAR.
He contributes to the team.
Franceour does not, and has a negative WAR.
Franceour lost so much standing with his hometown team that he was first sent to the minors…then traded to an in-division rival. That’s how LITTLE the Braves (one of the best-run organizations in baseball) think of their former Great White Hope.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
I'm not defending Jeff Friggin Francouer...
…rather I am highlighting how bloody damned God-awful Alfonso Soriano and his contract are.
"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)
Oh, well then, we can agree on that.
5 years and $90,000,000 more!
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
My main point:
I do not see why MLB does not mandate players to wear safer helmets. What’s the worse that can happen? I do not see a different in field of vision, I am sure the weight of the helmet is comparable to that of old helmets. The “look” and “style” is all that persons like Franceour are worried about…and players like Jeff don’t realize that by setting a standard and wearing these new helmets, they in turn will be endorsing the helmets for children, high schoolers, and college students to wear around the country. Seems like a no-brainer for this guy.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
It appears that Francoeur HAS "no brain" when it comes to this issue.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
isn't Francoeur the one who said OBP wasn't important
because they don’t put it up on the scoreboard?
The guy doesn’t think through his comments very well
After watching some...
…of the LLWS regionals, I can’t help but notice that there might be some possible vision problems. The bean looks to be excellently encased, but the padding is very noticeable to the point where peripheral vision could be affected.
As said above, I’ll need to try one before passing judgement.
Bud -- if he ever shows his face again
Should tell the players they are wearing the helmets or they are forfeiting their pensions and insurance policies.
If they don’t like it, they are free to strike.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
Look gang...
I can’t keep coming back here to raise the intelligence curve single-handedly. Either some of you start wearing the “objective cap” and cease from default statements like “it is all Lou Piniella’s fault,” or I’m going to stay away for more than 2 days next time.
I’m only here on a limited engagement. And I’m not going to carry the load all by myself.
"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)
"I'm going to stay away for more than 2 days next time"
YES!!!
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
It's all Lou Piniella's fault
I was not going to respond directly but damn it is too tempting if he is offering to go away.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 18, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I know, its kind of funny that BLou considers this a threat
I think of it more as a favor to humanity.
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
When the train is about to crash...
…everybody freaks out.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Dude, could you be more of an attention hog.
I still remember back in the day when I was just lurking, that you told someone it was inappropriate to share that their friend had just died.
Seriously one of the most pompous, out of line comments I’ve seen on this site.
The internet is serious business.
If you don’t like it, you can ignore it.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
I agree, that's why I don't think his comment telling someone else what personal information they should share
was anything more than a display of his pomposity
Oh, and weren't you recently asked to stay away for 2 days?
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
"I can’t keep coming back here to raise the intelligence curve single-handedly."
I am stunned. Don’t separate your shoulder patting yourself on the back.
BTW, where did you get your PhD? Delusional State?
"I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix."
-- Dan Quayle
those helmets arent that bad looking
i dont see what the big deal is.
also, whats up with big leaguers not wearing cups? after I read about beltre’s bloody testicle I seriously considered wearing one all the time.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
Seriously...
Teams should refuse to pay the medical bills of players that don’t wear proper equipment.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
this is still a sport where a player will wear the same underwear for a week straight
if he’s in a groove. Teams don’t want to make those kinds of threats, it might hurt their precious little pumpkins’ ego
Grandfather them in, then
Just tell them they sign a waiver absolving the team and baseball and the opposing team of any liability.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
The union would blow a gasket at that suggestion
however…insurance companies should refuse to pay the bills in that case. I’m sure they could find a reason not to pay.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 18, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Stark's ideas on fixing the draft
1) Slotting won’t happen. Too much whiff of salary cap
2) Trading picks is a good idea that should have happened years ago. It will happen.
3) Worldwide draft — ditto
4) Controlling rights through college. Union might scream bloody murder, but that’s one Selig should go to the mat on
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
Jayson Stark should be the commish.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Jason Stark also says
Just posted: Smoltz “strongly leaning” toward signing with Cards tomorrow http://bit.ly/TqzUx
Great. Just great.
If he pitches like he did in Boston
that is great.
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
I'm not saying he is going to
but if he signs with the Cards, I hope he does.
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
I'd probably want to sign with the team that's leading the division and has one of the best pitching coaches in all of baseball, too.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
you mean sitting at the foot of Larry "the legend"
and cooling off in the Cub ancient clubhouse is not incentive enough to land Smoltz?
Miles can carry his luggage
"I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix."
-- Dan Quayle
The Cubs won't be picking up ground on the Rockies tonight:
Huston Street was kind of shaky, but enough to hold off the Nationals 4-3.
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