Dice-K anyone?

Not really surprising that the Sox would be tempted to shop him given all the pitching they already have, one could reasonably expect Daisuke to perform better in the NL, and as the link states, the Sox take good care of their pitchers and have already paid the largest portion of his deal, the posting fee.

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No, thanks.

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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 2, 2009 12:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

When you post links like this...

… please post the ORIGINAL link, not the MLBTR link. In this case it links back to this Boston Globe article, which says:

Look for the Red Sox to listen to teams inquiring about Daisuke Matsuzaka in the offseason. Although there’s been an attempt to straighten things out after the recent clash of cultures and workout routines, the hope is the righthander can return to the team, pitch well, and maintain his trade value. Matsuzaka will have to sign off on any deal, but given the many bumps in the road he and the Sox have had, that may not be a problem.

Note the words, “in the offseason”. So, basically, nothing to see. Yet.

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by Al on Aug 2, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ok

the original link was in the mlbtr link, so I thought people could follow that if inclined.

In any even, he’s shown he can succeed somewhat in the AL, certainly he can rack up some Ks, so I think he could improve upon those numbers in the NL

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Aug 2, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No way

The Cubs are set on pitching with their recent trade, plus Matsuzaka he is being overpaid, and he’s signed through 2012. If there’s gonna be another deal, it’ll be for a bat. No thanks.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 2, 2009 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Set on pitching?

In what way?

How many times has Z been hurt this year? Lillys deal is almost up, Harden needs at least 25 pitches to get through a single inning and Dempster hasnt come close to last years performance. So Id were anything but set with pitching

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Aug 2, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We have several people

Set to start or relieve in AAA. Plus we just added Grabow and Gorzy. Dice-K is also being paid about 7 million. No thanks.

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 2, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

going forward

2010, Z/Demp/Lilly/Wells are in place, for better or worse. I have a hard time seeing Harden come back. It’s possible, but I’m not expecting it. I think Marshall/Gorzelanny will be pondered, particularly if Lou is around as he might want that 2nd lefty. It’s unlikely that Cashner/Jackson/Carpenter might be ready to start 2010. Midseason? Perhaps, although I’d bet against it (now calling them up for pen roles midway through 2010 is possible, depending on development). My hunch is that we may try to sign a cheap, innings eating vet to compete with Marshall/Gorzelanny/Atkins/Caridad.

2011, Z/Demp/Wells are in place tentatively. Obviously, we have to see how Wells pitches. I’ve got a hard time seeing us give a deal to Lilly unless it’s short term. If he’s pitching alright, he’s likely to get a long term deal. I think the early hope for 2011 is that one of our top 3 arms (the above mentioned 3) are ready, and that we’ll find a lefty to go in there (could be Marshall/Gorzelanny).

by toonsterwu on Aug 2, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No

Matsuzaka is a .500 pitcher.

Randy Wells. A product of the Roy Halladay School of Pitching, located in Toronto, Canada. Possible relocation.

by Cub Style on Aug 2, 2009 1:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wins are possibly the worst way to measure a pitchers capabilities

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Aug 2, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I mean't he's average.

Randy Wells. A product of the Roy Halladay School of Pitching, located in Toronto, Canada. Possible relocation.

by Cub Style on Aug 3, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No

Every start with him is a high wire act and good luck getting more than 6 innings.

Do. Not. Want.

by Allie on Aug 2, 2009 1:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

NO

He’s been a total disappointment this year…

by TuscaniLove on Aug 2, 2009 2:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Looks like I am in the minority

But if he could be had for cheap (prospects wise), I don’t see any problem in trying to get him this off season. In 2008 he was quite good, but this year it seems he has been hampered by injuries. He seems to struggle with command but when he does get it over the plate, he is unhittable (6.9 h/9 last year). As you stated, the majority of the big dollar associated with Dice-K was the posting fee.

Plus, it would give Dome a Japanese partner on the club, which could be a good thing for both players.

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by DTJchris on Aug 2, 2009 4:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

He seems to struggle with command but when he does get it over the plate, he is unhittable (6.9 h/9 last year).

but this year when he finds the plate, theyre bombs

He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.

by jesus christos on Aug 2, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd definitely look into it.

Especially if they took a contract for him instead of prospects. If they’d swap Daisuke for Bradley, for instance…

Randy Wells - You continue to astound me.

by DGU on Aug 2, 2009 7:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Love this idea!

But could you imagine MB would be like in Boston? Something tells me he would blow-up on the field. I don’t mean emotionally. I mean literally explode into pieces after a called strike three during a slump.

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by STLCubFan on Aug 3, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the red sox already have an overpaid RF who cant play through pain

by jesus christos on Aug 3, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Would the Cubs let him do his own throwing program?

Dragonsfanatic would obviously be the more knowledgeable person on this, but I think Dice-K said that the reason he has struggled is the Red Sox unwillingness to let him use his throwing program.

Perhaps allowing him to do his own thing will help him be more successful.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Aug 2, 2009 8:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

yeah

basically, he wants to be throwing more to build up arm strength. Red Sox initially let him do that, but after his last injury, they wanted to lessen the work, and that led to the brouhaha.

by toonsterwu on Aug 2, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs