I will front $300; let's release Miles

by fischisgod on Aug 21, 2009 1:24 AM CDT Comment 28 comments

The title says it all. I will front three hundo. If every cubs fan will contribute 1$ or 5$ we can pay his salary so he never bats again. HE IS FUCKING TERRIBLE!!!!!! End of discussion. I will be setting up an account soon so we can hopefully contribute to getting rid of Miles. I also want Lou gone after he made the decision to remove the pitcher that was pitching well for the worst player in baseball... its over... This team is more frustrating than the 06 team.. Lets pay to have Miles removed.

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ill put in 50

by jesus christos on Aug 21, 2009 1:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

We got 350....

who else is in? Thats where the game changed tonight

4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42

by fischisgod on Aug 21, 2009 1:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

wow, dudes

Miles sucks. We all know it. Better things are on the way in the pipeline. We hung around long enough to get the Redbirds to empty their farm system.

How ’bout this? Donate the cash to a charity. Use your name, or donate it under an alias expressing your frustration. Life is brutal for lotsa people. If you have $300 to waste, give it to an organization you trust, at least more than you trust Aaron Miles to do well.

Someone will appreciate your charity.

by tim815 on Aug 21, 2009 2:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

no

i want to release miles….

4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42

by fischisgod on Aug 21, 2009 2:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

because im really throw in 50 bucks

by jesus christos on Aug 21, 2009 3:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've said before....

….the cubs ought to start an Aaron Miles relief fund, raise ticket prices by $1 (more than they already were) and send this bozo packing. That, over the course of 3 million at the gate over a season, would cover his salary. On the back of every ticket would say “one dollar of your ticket goes to AMR fundation”.

He’s an easy scape goat, I know. But it’d sure make everyone feel a little better.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Aug 21, 2009 2:06 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs

Thanks for putting a smile on my face

For all you naysayers about a waste of space this is, just ease off. It’s been a rough week for all of us.

And for what it’s worth, my poor unemployed ass is chipping in $10

"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher

by Musicdude10 on Aug 21, 2009 4:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I was one of those naysayers back in May

However after tonight, I’m on the otherside of this one. It’s not that he didn’t try and work the count. It’s not even that he hit the ball about as hard as a grandma. It’s the fact that this guy, who’s only purpose was that ONE at bat, chose to JOG to first. Of course it’s unlikely a gold glover is going to screw up a 20 foot throw, but if you’re getting paid about $10k for that ONE at bat you RUN.

by Mike Martin on Aug 21, 2009 6:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I will put in nothing

It’s not my damn job.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Aug 21, 2009 6:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Aaron Miles is not a good baseball player.

But he went from having his uses under TLR to being useless under Lou. Is it just a coincidence?

Well, Miles has always hit LH pitching better than RH pitching. TLR got Miles plenty of ABs v. LH pitching, 1/3 of his plate appearances last year were v. LH pitching.

But, Lou has rarely used Miles against LH pitching, giving him 4/5 of his ABs v. RHP and only 32 PAs v. LHP.

That said, with Jeff Baker on the club, Miles now has no uses for the Cubs and Jim Hendry might consider giving Cubs fans something to cheer about by releasing him. Aaron Miles is the figurehead of what went wrong in 2009 – from untimely injuries to the unbalancing of a roster by trying to balance the lineup. Miles is a switch-hitter, yes, but unable to backup the left side of the infield, which we desperately needed. He is the very definition of “futility infielder.” Because we had no adequate 3B backup, Fontenot got stuck there, playing everyday, which I’m convinced screwed up his hitting.

Randy Wells - You continue to astound me.

by DGU on Aug 21, 2009 7:12 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs

Very good points

This gets to the heart of the blame debate, at least the portion that is “bad luck v. bad management”

It was bad luck that Aramis Ramirez got hurt. That injury was going to hurt the team.

However, it should not have hurt the club to the extent that it did.

Which is why, if we fall 10 games back, Ramirez has to have surgery, or be rested. He has to be 100 percent for next year, or else we fall right back into the same trap.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Aug 21, 2009 7:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not only does resting Ramirez help him and us for next season

but it gives the Cubs more chances to play Fox, Baker, and Fontenot (only at 2B, only v. RHP) to see what we’ve really got in those players and whether they are answers.

But as far as the heart of the blame debate points – I think people are underestimating the bad luck portion of the blame, but beyond that what’s really being exposed, I believe, is that Jim Hendry and Lou Piniella aren’t working well together. The gaps between what they each see the players on the roster as capable of is a real problem.

And I don’t think it’s a blame one or the other only issue. Lou was right that Aaron Miles shouldn’t play SS or 3B, but Lou’s been very wrong about when to use Miles’ bat. Ideally, the two would have corrected each other where they needed to be corrected. Instead, neither was corrected and we ended up w/o a backup SS/3B and without ever using Miles as Fontenot’s platoon partner.

Randy Wells - You continue to astound me.

by DGU on Aug 21, 2009 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Excellent summary of the Miles debacle...

…and someone should add “futility infielder” to the BCB dictionary. Rec’d.

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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 22, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The profanity was unnecessary.

But I agree with your point. See the front page recap for my thoughts on Miles.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Aug 21, 2009 8:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Actually we need to collect a lot more than that

We have to collect the 90 million to get Soriano out. Miles is minor flea that Lou foolishly allows to pinch hit in insane
situations but Sori is the everyday total disaster. Now that he is being intentionally walked I don’t even think Drew can defend him. We probably can’t raise the money to get him but if we kick in just a few million maybe we can get him on the bench for at least THIS year.

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Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 21, 2009 9:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

It is truly one of the more baffling things in my world at this moment.

Lou is earning doubt in a big way. Many say he is losing it and I would tend to agree. He dropped Scott Eyre when it should have been Bob Howry. He may or may not have had something to do with the DeRosa issue. He took Kosuke out of leadoff when he was killing pitchers and doing EXACTLY what a leadoff man does, and he continues to use Aaron FREAKING Miles. He is an imbecile IMO. I used to argue that there was a method to his madness, now I feel differently. .188!!!!!!! What about that BA tells a manager to remove a pitcher in a crucial spot, and PH a freakin pile of dog poo? I think if anyone has goods on Lou, it’s Miles cause I haven’t seen such idiotic overuse since the likes of Dusty and Jacque Jones!

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by Kinky Reggae on Aug 21, 2009 9:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

this would be unprecedented

I believe, in baseball. If every Cubs blog reader/poster donated $5-$25, would enough revenue accrue to buy out Miles’ contract?

by The E-Man on Aug 21, 2009 12:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Why at this point?

With the Cubs playoff odds dipping below 10% at this point, why not play Miles and see if he can rebuild some value? Let him play out the season, bring him into spring training, and if he still can’t remember how to hit major league pitching then you cut him.

You’re paying him either way.

by Wreckard on Aug 21, 2009 1:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

He's really not likely to be that much better next year, is he?

Why not see if you can deal him for someone else’s bad contract?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Aug 21, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right now, I doubt anyone would take him.

Let him rebuild some value, and maybe you can dump him off as an overpriced utility guy for something else overpriced but of value, a la the Wilson Bettemitt / Nick Swisher trade last year.

If he could regress back to even his pre-2008 numbers someone would want him.

by Wreckard on Aug 21, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

how about they just cut him and keep andy white

by jesus christos on Aug 21, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Again you're not seeing the big picture

You’re paying Miles either way. He’s a bench player who will have very little influence on further slimming the Cubs playoff odds.

If he figures it out and gets hot in September, you may be able to trade him for something this off-season. If not, you cut him at the end of spring training.

If you cut him now, all you’re doing is throwing away any chance of getting even some of your money back.

Any question where “Andres Blanco” is the answer is a bad one.

by Wreckard on Aug 21, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you cut him now, all you’re doing is throwing away any chance of getting even some of your money back.

aaron miles strikes me as the kind of player thats more beneficial to club by not playing for them

by jesus christos on Aug 21, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: that last sentence. How 'bout a question such as:

Who would be a good, young, cost-effective backup middle infielder and late-inning defensive replacement (who can also pinch run and lay down a bunt once in a while)?

Seems like every team could use a glove man like Blanco to serve in those roles.

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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 22, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

As a Cards fan

I am so happy that Miles isn’t a Cardinal anymore.

Forget Christmas in July... every day's a Holliday in St. Louis.

by zoomzoomj88 on Aug 21, 2009 2:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Put me down for 500

but NOT for Miles. Put a dump Soriano account together. What’s he owed? 90Million? You would think the Cubs might eat a third of that…….we could come up with another third and the new team could pay the other third to deal with that bum. Probably take awhile but there ARE millions of Cub fans……………….

by plenz on Aug 21, 2009 2:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I know you're not serious but, again, how 'bout you raise that money and donate it to a good charity?

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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 22, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs