Cubs Sold To Ricketts Family
Before you get all excited, read this part of this link:
The family will not gain control of the team until after the baseball season ends, probably sometime in October, because there are still a few conditions of closing. Tribune Co. has been in Chapter 11 bankruptcy since December, and a major disposition of assets requires the court's blessing.
As part of the court's approval process, Tribune Co. said it will place the Cubs in Chapter 11 bankruptcy so that the franchise can "emerge free and clear" of the company's financial obligations.
The company said that the Cubs bankruptcy will not interrupt team operations, and player contracts and other agreements with ticket holders, sponsors and supplies are not expected to be affected.
Court approval is expected because Tribune Co. has run a robust sales process that has kept creditors informed throughout, sources said.
Nevertheless, this is an important day in club history -- the team now owned by a professed Cubs fan who will, we hope, devote the resources necessary to bring a World Series to the North Side. We'll just have to wait till after the season ends to see changes begin.
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Hot damn.
What is that i see in the distance? Could it be? Why yes!
A glimmer of hope!
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by AndrewJStone on Aug 21, 2009 4:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Or as my wife just said
“what is it wait till next year”?
by NebraskaCubsFan on Aug 21, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent news
Now, cue our favorite griefer, BLou in 3…2…1…
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on Aug 21, 2009 4:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Please, Mr. Ricketts, win for us, you and I, the fans.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 21, 2009 4:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
now
let the firing/hiring begin. well after october that is
"all we know is, he's called the Stig"
by The Stig on Aug 21, 2009 4:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Doubt it...
…Maybe some jobs in the dugout will be lost but I’ll bet Crane Kenney will be held on to. The club has done well financially under his watch and Hendry just signed a new extension less than a year ago
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"
by calicubfan on Aug 21, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
solid points....if that is the case
…I would guess that Ricketts will be VERY involved in baseball decsions. At least I would be if I spent $800 million considering this seasons debacle to date.
by JB 23 on Aug 21, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see it the other way.
Tom Ricketts has made his money in other businesses besides baseball. Why would he meddle in something he knows nothing about? I’m guessing he puts good people in place who know what they are doing, or keeps those who are already doing a good job, and steps aside and lets them do their jobs.
Those who think there will be wholesale firings are likely to be seriously disappointed.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 21, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
that does make more sense. he will most likely put his faith in those who work in the field of baseball management.
"all we know is, he's called the Stig"
by The Stig on Aug 21, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK Stig -
What’s your real identity? Top Gear fans have waited long enough…
by stuartscottslefteye on Aug 21, 2009 6:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Should have been more specific....I meant that if I were the owner....
…I wouldnt let $2m 2010 contract obligation to Aaron Miles stop me from DFA’ing him.
Right now, we have to assume that Jim’s hands are tied on issues like that.
by JB 23 on Aug 21, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe I've read a dissenting point of view from someone who posts here every so often.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 21, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cubfanincabrera49q759235925-milesfromwrigley?
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on Aug 21, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, keep guessing ;-)
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Aug 21, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
poptheclutche?
"I’m not going to allow Al Yellon to flush this thing down the crapper without a fight." (BLOU)
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 21, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ding, ding, ding.
We have a winner.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Aug 22, 2009 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eat the Soriano contract
I’ll even chip in $5
by VillanuevaExperience on Aug 21, 2009 4:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Like throwing a quarter into the Grand Canyon
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 21, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like throwing a hotdog down a hallway.

Follow me on twitter @andrewjstone.
by AndrewJStone on Aug 21, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there any tread left on those tires?
Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?
by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 21, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
None whatsoever!!
in fact there is a bad place on them that bumps when you drive down the road. That’s about the only noise it make. Kinda annoying and somewhat dangerous to keep around.
by cub in louies nest on Aug 21, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With what i've already offered to help pay down the Miles contract...
… i can’t contribute to this one. Sorry.
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by AndrewJStone on Aug 21, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, I'm in for $5 too
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 21, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll contribute $10!
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 21, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's the spirit
if we don’t have enough $$$, we’ll have a huge happy hour at Murphy’s
by VillanuevaExperience on Aug 21, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No money
but you can count on my steel.
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on Aug 21, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My sword's by your side!
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded." -Jim Frey
by lapetino on Aug 21, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do not mean to pry, but you don't by any chance happen to have six fingers on your right hand?
"Fasten your seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Aug 21, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alfonseca?
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 21, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No $$$
But I’ll serve up some Old Style for all those who contribute!
by jthack on Aug 21, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it's OS, make it $10 for me too
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 21, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as long as one Old Style does not equal $7
then I’m on board.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 21, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The
plate is full, a lot of work to be done.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on Aug 21, 2009 4:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fire Hendry, DFA Miles, waive Sorryano, get Wagner.
by BarryLB on Aug 21, 2009 4:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Could happen, better happen, won't happen, hope it happens.
Waiving sori while would make Cub fans happy , but will never happen. The only way his 80 mil contract goes elsewhere is if someone is willing to eat part of the contract. And until he plays better no one is going to do that. A 2.5 mill bite is worth taking to rid us of Miles, but not the huge amount we’d lose by waiving him…either a trade or him being near the end of the contract and then waiving him is all that’s financially sound. You can dump players with salaries at 2.5..but more would just prevent the Cubs from being able to get someone better…the economy isn’t going to improve dramatically soon, so I think the best we can hope for is a mild expansion of the payroll and nothing like New York or Boston.
In addition to the economy, Ricketts has just spent a ton of money acquiring the team, faces a decision to spend more to either refurbish or refurbish and add Wrigleyville, training facilities….I can hope they have deep pockets to spend more but don’t think it very feasible for the first season.
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 21, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i believe ricketts plan is to renovate wrigley in 2014
by jesus christos on Aug 22, 2009 3:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BY 2014, you mean...
… so it can have a rejuvenation on its 100th birthday.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 22, 2009 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dear Mr. Ricketts...
…when you take over control, please gather up all those blue alternate jerseys and set fire to them. White pinstripes @ home…gray on the road..Thank you!
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"
by calicubfan on Aug 21, 2009 4:27 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
priority #1001
though I like the blue-tops, the all white pinstripes at home is a CLASSIC.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 21, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing I like about the blue jerseys is...
…the NL logo patch on the sleeves…It’s kinda classy seeing how the Cubs are the only NL charter team still playing in their original city.
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"
by calicubfan on Aug 21, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about Cincy?
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 25, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah, I almost forgot...
…please lose the guest conductor for Take me out to the Ballgame…It was cute for about a week — kinda lame now.
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"
by calicubfan on Aug 21, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
100% agreed on both.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 21, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
now that i agree with
Jerry’s been so distant lately and Lovie barely calls.- Just Dave
by Allie on Aug 21, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and
keep the blue hats for both home and road
"all we know is, he's called the Stig"
by The Stig on Aug 21, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're already doing that.
Started this year.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 21, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know
but i just dont want them to go back to them like they did with the blue jerseys after a brief hiatus
"all we know is, he's called the Stig"
by The Stig on Aug 21, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats right...
…they did ditch the blue’s last year or the year before. Why the hell did they come back?
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"
by calicubfan on Aug 21, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think
because Z wanted them back, a superstition thing.
"all we know is, he's called the Stig"
by The Stig on Aug 21, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Getting rid of them was a John McDonough call.
When McDonough left, they came back.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 21, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i stand corrected
"all we know is, he's called the Stig"
by The Stig on Aug 21, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but I like the road hats with the red bills
"Fasten your seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Aug 21, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
katie!
just when i was starting to really like you.
red bills are fugly. and blue jerseys are awesome.
Jerry’s been so distant lately and Lovie barely calls.- Just Dave
by Allie on Aug 21, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't mind the blue jerseys so much on the road, but not at home.
Fugly? You got me there. How’s this compromise? If they wear the blue jerseys they should wear the road hat with the red bill (it’s just too much blue-it needs to be broken up-keep in mind I am an artist). If they wear the gray road uniform they should wear the normal blue hat.
"Fasten your seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Aug 21, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hate the red bills
i don’t know if i can go along with you
Jerry’s been so distant lately and Lovie barely calls.- Just Dave
by Allie on Aug 21, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we still be friends?
BTW-I hope you are not having a complex about watching and them losing yesterday. It’s not your fault. It’s mine. I was wearing my old road hat with the red bill. Just kidding. I wasn’t wearing any hat at all. So maybe it was my fault. Which one should I wear tonight?
"Fasten your seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Aug 21, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they win and look great tonight
b/c i can’t watch… a complex will start to become a legit worry. LOL
you wear a hat as you watch a game on tv?
Jerry’s been so distant lately and Lovie barely calls.- Just Dave
by Allie on Aug 21, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did all the time last year.
This year rarely. See, it is me!
"Fasten your seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Aug 21, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No wait, it's because they aren't wearing the hats with the red bills!!!
"Fasten your seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Aug 21, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the Blues
just not as much as they wear them
by oeosoto on Aug 21, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the blues, just not as much as the Cubs make me have them...
Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?
by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 21, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i do not understand
Jerry’s been so distant lately and Lovie barely calls.- Just Dave
by Allie on Aug 21, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First the courts, then the MLB approval
Unless there’s this fast-track in the in the courts, I don’t see the MLB signoff coming until the GM or Winter meetings….Al, you concur?
IMO, I would not be surprised if there’s a lot of house-cleaning at the exec level. Don’t really think it’ll happen but won’t be surprised since I am of the belief Ricketts wants his own mgmt structure.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 21, 2009 4:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The owners...
…have a meeting in Chicago right after the WS. Approval will be official than.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Aug 21, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is likely going to be...
… a special owners meeting in November, here in Chicago, for the specific purpose of approving new ownership, just before free agency begins. That’s when I’d expect it.
Again, as I have said before, I wouldn’t expect wholesale changes and house-cleaning. The team has been wildly successful off the field. Why would you screw with that? It has also begun to be successful on the field, except for postseason. Adjustments and additions, perhaps — not a house cleaning. This isn’t the Pirates we’re talking about.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 21, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that the "GM" meetings
or completely separate?
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 21, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, that will be a special owners meeting.
Not the GM meeting at all.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 21, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to go BLou on everyone
but what are Hendry’s chances to keep his job? There are so many bad contracts on this team that Ricketts is inheriting. The worst part is he is only one year into a four year extension but it’s hard to imagine he won’t pay the price for a terrible offseason.
by VillanuevaExperience on Aug 21, 2009 4:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I said in another thread...
…maybe the $55 mil reduction in the sale price has something to do with additional costs of cleaning up some of those contracts?
If status quo is retained in the front office, it will be a big big mistake.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Aug 21, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I believe the reduction...
… has something to do with the value of WGN’s TV contract.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 21, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think I saw it in WSJ, not sure
but it was so they would not be tied to ’GN after the current deal expires.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 21, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a Cubs fan living outside Chicago...
… If Ricketts pulls the Cubs off of the Superstation I’ll hate him forever. And so will all the people in Chicago that don’t pay for TV. Even if it’s supposed to be good for the team (cough cough his pocketbook) somehow.
by aldimond on Aug 21, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He would not do that
I’d bet that he would do what’s best to reach the maximum number of people and to make sure its financially rewarding at the same time.
YES Network is a notable portion of the Yankees revenue stream that helps them spend so much.
I’d imagine the Cubs would emulate that system at least somewhat.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 21, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it will be done gradually...
… they won’t do the Cubs Network (or whatever they call it) until it gets as much national distribution as WGN does.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 21, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your probably right
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Aug 21, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Broadcast rights' value
is the reason for the difference. Ricketts did his homework…apparently very well.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 21, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hendry will be back for another year
I’d imagine Ricketts is going to want to see how things are running from the inside before he makes changes. The guy who put together two straight division champion teams is going to get a pass on this year.
by Mike Martin on Aug 21, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, especially..
…. since he has three years left on his contract.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 21, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
Ricketts is going to bring back the glory days of the Wrigley ownership years and fire Hendry and replace him with the guy in charge of concessions at Wrigley Field.
(And for you younger readers, yes, this actually happened. In my lifetime, too.)
by Josh77 on Aug 21, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
we we really are unbelievably dysfunctional.
Jerry’s been so distant lately and Lovie barely calls.- Just Dave
by Allie on Aug 21, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's right.
E. R. “Salty” Saltwell was GM of the Cubs for one year in between John Holland and Bob Kennedy (1976).
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 21, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And speaking of this
Can we replace the guy in charge of concessions at Wrigley Field? The food and beer all sucks. I want Microbrew and good food.
"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
by vonde6 on Aug 21, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I generally prefer microbrew, but nothing beats an Old Style at Wrigley.
Like "A hot dog at the ball park is better than steak at the Ritz."
Speaking of hot dogs, do they have a different brand of hot dogs this year? I thought they tasted different.
"Fasten your seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Aug 21, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can get a St. Pauli Girl in the bleachers
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 25, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, I was doing a little research today
and if the Cubs can manage to finish above .500 this year, it will mark just the sixth time in franchise history the Cubs have had three (or more) straight seasons at .500 or better. And the first time since 1967-72.
And while that’s little consolation, given the expectations entering the year, the fact remains that we are watching one of the most consistent stretches of baseball in Cubs history. Which is why I could see Hendry getting another year, allowing Ricketts to evaluate him.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 21, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I fully believe
Hendry, Lou, Kenny — all will be back for at least the first year of the Ricketts era.
"I’m not going to allow Al Yellon to flush this thing down the crapper without a fight." (BLOU)
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 21, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe they'll all be gone this offseason...
We’ll see what happens.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 21, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm hoping your right...
…because there is no question in my mind the baseball organization needs new leadership and direction. The quicker that gets done, the better off you are for long term success.
I can fathom a scenerio where Rickets let’s things ride for one year. Partly because Hendry has such a long commitment, and also to get a first hand look at the operations. The speed of changes will also be dependent on Rickett’s timing of bringing in his own President of Baseball Operations (which I believe he will). If Rickett’s is smart (and I am sure he is), he will simply give that guy a budget and say go ahead and hire/fire who you want to build your team.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Aug 21, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That scenario is entirely possible.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 22, 2009 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't understand...
…why Kenney had to give Hendry a 4 year deal last year. I know they won two divisions, but they also outspent their rivals in a weak division to get that done. With the ownership change coming, I would not have given Hendry more than a 2 year deal and Hendry should have been able to understand the reasons why.
In the end, I believe Kenney gave it to him because he wanted to take care of Hendry, and that is not how you make good baseball decisions.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Aug 22, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good post MPH73
I’ll go out on a ledge (wait, I’m already there whenever I watch a game!) and say this is exactly what happens.
by CaliCub on Aug 22, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Drew.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 21, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone think the owndership uncertainty has anything to do with team performance?
I don’t know either way, but you could make the argument that uncertainty about what happens with the large sums of money used to pay contracts could at least be on the mind of players and coaches.
by DisCUBbobulated on Aug 21, 2009 4:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Doubt it.
They’re getting paid regardless.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 21, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The players
should care less about how owns the team. They’re still getting the same paycheck.
by VillanuevaExperience on Aug 21, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a season ticket holder I am very curious how
Mr. Ricketts plans on recouping some of his cash. PSL’s remain a strong possibility in my opinion.
Dallas Green!
by SonnyJ9 on Aug 21, 2009 4:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd bet the house
that PSLs become a reality.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 21, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do those PSL's work?
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"
by calicubfan on Aug 21, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You pay a lot of money to obtain a license
which allows you to purchase or hold your season tickets. For some sports teams, like the Jets, you’re actually fined or penalized for not using your tickets. I’m more familiar with how that works for football, but for baseball I’d imagine it’s just paying a fee to be able to purchase season tickets.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 21, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How much is "a lot of money"?
Do any MLB teams do that?
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"
by calicubfan on Aug 21, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Giants have some form of PSL's.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 21, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was to help pay for the ball park, right?
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 21, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I don't think so.
I could be wrong, but I don’t think so.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 21, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cards do
it for some of their premium seats…
"When two Whales Fight, many Shrimp Die" - Korean Proverb
by TheRiot Police on Aug 21, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I spend a small fortune on this...
…license, and then if I can’t use my tix, I get “fined”?
No thank you. Maybe I should consider taking myself off the list.
Rickey has spoken. Keep the Athletics in Bump City.
by LeSaboteur on Aug 21, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt the Cubs would do that.
They’d probably just allow you to resell the tix through Stubhub.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 21, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that's a lot of fines...
…for the J.E.T.S. that is.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 25, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I imagine part of the major renovations of the ballpark
are to put in real skyboxes; ala United Centre.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 21, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed -
I as well am a STH, and think PSL’s could happen before a large and needed renovation, or, after the renovation when the new facility would be unveiled.
I also see some kind of a Cubs TV network down the road. Book it.
by The E-Man on Aug 21, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great....thaaaaat's just peachy
soon after I get great ST’s.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 21, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't that
what the Cubs did with CSN Chicago—setting up their own network?
Sure, they share it with the Sox, Bulls and Blackhawks, but the Cubs have an ownership stake in CSN Chicago. Now I suppose they could go it alone, but they’d need to take one of the winter sports teams with them for off-season programming. And it would have to be the Blackhawks because Reinsdorf isn’t splitting up the White Sox and the Bulls.
So essentially, a Cubs TV network would give Reinsdorf a White Sox TV network for free.
I think a Cubs TV channel has no chance of happening anytime in the near future—by which I mean the next ten years. The Cubs are already invested in Comcast Sports. Pulling out would give the White Sox a major advantage and likely PO Comcast, whom the Cubs need to get to carry any new channels.
They may try to negotiate a bigger piece of the pie. Setting up a full-time “Comcast Sports Net Chicago 2” is possible. But not a Cubs TV.
by Josh77 on Aug 21, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CSN Chicago is local
Do they ever get picked up outside Chi-metro?
I would expect the Cubs to have their own YES-Network type of situation eventually. Part of going that route may be to dissolve their affiliation with CSN and ’GN.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 21, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can get it
in Illinois, Iowa, Indiana—wherever the cable system is in the Chicago professional sports network.
I don’t really understand your point—we don’t get YES out in California. They’re only available in the Yankees market. Sure, you can subscribe to the package on DirecTV and get it in California, but you can do that with CSN Chicago too. The ballgames are blacked out outside the territories, of course.
by Josh77 on Aug 21, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Point is I believe Ricketts wants
greater flexibility with broadcasting. He believed if he were tied to the current system for a prolonged time, it would limit broadcasting revenue opportunity.
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by blackhawk24 on Aug 21, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually
I can get YES on ATT Uverse. You can get CSN Chicago in California.
"I’m not going to allow Al Yellon to flush this thing down the crapper without a fight." (BLOU)
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 21, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
If you get the sports pack add on. That was my point. AT&T has it as well as DirecTV. Dish Network also has the option.
Of course, since AT&T and Dish Network don’t have Extra Innings, neither one has any of the games, which is the very reason for the existence of the channel.
by Josh77 on Aug 21, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now, say in a couple years they move ahead with a Cubs network
Is Rickets the one to organize that, or is that responsibility of the team president? I can’t see Rickets having a ton of knowledge regarding the television industry, so I wonder who he could bring in for that.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 21, 2009 4:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly why he'll leave the baseball stuff to people who know what they're doing.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 21, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing I'm not too sure about is...
if there ends up being a Cubs Network, a bunch of Cubs fans will be out of luck because they won’t have cable. Plus it’s gonna take a year and half for comcast and satellite providers to carry the channel in the first place not wanting to pay the premium for it. It’s gonna be a huge pain in the arse initially for Cubs fans. I wished all of our games were on WGN so everyone can watch the games.
by aznsensation on Aug 21, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As an out of market Cubs fan
That would be my dream to have all games on WGN
by oeosoto on Aug 21, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember...
… you can buy MLB.TV and get all the games if you are not in the Chicago area. I suspect blackouts are going to be lifted too, soon.
The Cubs won’t do a network like this unless they can get national coverage. It’s probably several years away.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 21, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have Mlb.tv
just would rather watch WGN HD then a tiny computer screen
by oeosoto on Aug 21, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I understand that.
I think in the long run, the Ricketts group will put together something that will please everyone.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 21, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just remember how upset I was that comcast didn't have the big ten network and espn360 for like 2 years.
by aznsensation on Aug 21, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boy was that a pain in the arse
rights and haggling between those guys.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 21, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can watch MLB.TV on my 42" TV
You primarily need either a HTPC or something like a Popcorn Hour player that you can load PlayOn onto.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 21, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone can watch it on their tv's nowadays...
but it doesn’t look all that great when the picture is stretched. They advertise it as HD resolution, but it’s not really when you put it on a big tv.
by aznsensation on Aug 21, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mlb.tv just isn't the same as having it on television...
Sometimes it lags do to overload of servers and it’s too delayed. If you wanted to watch the game on your computer and chat with the good people on BCB, you find out what’s happened a minute before you see it on your video feed. Having an actual HD feed on your HDtv easily beats mlb.tv.
by aznsensation on Aug 21, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have MLB.TV
and I can tell you that HD Cable/Satellite is infinitely better.
1. Cable/satellite connection allows me to watch on my 52" 1080 plasma, not on my small computer flatscreen.
2. Bandwidth on my internet connection does not support HD image & I have to downgrade the image quality to get some image movement.
3. Have to logon everytime – when was last time you did that on your tv?
4. Significant lag time between events on field and reception at home. Means I can’t listen to Ron & Pat if I want.
Hopefully it gets better with time.
One thing I do like: MLB.TV on my wife’s iPhone (using my account). Allows me watch games anywhere!
by JFCubFan on Aug 21, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More Money to spend doesn't mean Championships
Cubs already have one of the bigger payrolls in the NL and MLB. Unless they hire better baseball people to spend the money more wisely (i.e. avoid FA deals like Soriano and Miles), draft better, and develop international talent, simply spending more won’t drastically increase their odds of making a World Series.
As an outsider and rival fan for many years, I think the above is something a lot of people can agree the Cubs have their greatest need for improvement. Honestly, I think Jim Hendry should polish his resume, becuase he is going to need to find a new job soon.
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by MixFMKyle on Aug 21, 2009 4:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Us long-time fans
Have been on the no-money route with the Wrigley’s, and in the earlier Tribune years. The money route is better.
A better international scouting organization can be had for money, too.
It turns out, it is better to be rich than poor.
"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
by vonde6 on Aug 21, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are changes possible?
Hendry has painted himself into a corner, and can’t get out. We as fans, have to continue to witness Sori’s stupid hop and constant whiffing at sliders two feet off the strike-zone, Bradley’s lack of power, and Soto’s weight management ineptness.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
by propheteer on Aug 21, 2009 4:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is this is what is important to people...
which jersey color, guest conductors, color of the hats, DFA’ing Miles??! Kidding, right? Tongue-in-cheek, stuff like that?
OR is it to put together a world series championship team, soon?!
I don’t care if they get a 4th jersey that’s mauve, or hats with bells, Ditka sings every month or if Miles ends up being on the DL through next September. I want to see MULTIPLE WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIPS !!!!
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 21, 2009 4:51 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Rec
I agree, if the Cubs had a championship team they could wear White Sox jerseys and I could care less
by VillanuevaExperience on Aug 21, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think bells on the hats...
..might be against MLB uniform rules. Not sure though
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"
by calicubfan on Aug 21, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even cow bells?
Hey, maybe BB was thinking that would get them to run around the bases more quickly.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 21, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course that's what we want.
But can’t we get rid of some of the other dreck, too?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 21, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure, right after they figure out how to make this roster better
What I don’t want? Loud blaring music at Wrigley; between pitches especially. Bright flashing lights that makes you think of Vegas. Ads all over the place like every other ballpark.
Keeping Wrigley…Wrigley right along putting a great team out there are my wishes. I still like the stretch. I’m indifferent on the blue jerseys.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 21, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, getting rid the bad uniforms, the 7th inning guest conductor....
are fixes that can be done in the blink of an eye basically. Fixing the roster is a bigger, more time consuming problem
by Illicat on Aug 21, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If ads can help the team with revenue
I have no problem with them.
The stretch side show, flashing lights, loud horrid music, ect all would distract from the team and add to the “beer garden” crap.
Jerry’s been so distant lately and Lovie barely calls.- Just Dave
by Allie on Aug 21, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spending money is not an issue for the Cubs
Spending it intelligently is. The Cubs have a fairly moribund farm system lately, a consequence of lower drafts, promotions, and trades. This is a team that’s really on the verge of needing a wholesale cleanout; Soriano really is a bust, and I would venture that Milton Bradley is, too.
I don’t see Piniella lasting past this year. He looks and acts tired, and he’s made some very questionable in-game decisions.
The Cubs could be a real contender, but it’ll take 2-3 years to clear out the deadwood.
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by scareduck on Aug 21, 2009 4:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What scares me about the bad deals
is they may lose a good guy like Lilly cuz they can’t be rid of Soriano’s contract. Lilly’s expires at the end of ’10.
They really haven’t spent too well at times.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 21, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You CAN'T clean out these guys.
Nobody wants those contracts. This is hard for people to understand, apparently. These are not players to dump because they are about to achieve big pay days. They HAVE the money. Who would take the contracts?
Even the Cubs can’t EAT big contracts.
Ones such as signed by Aaron Miles — yes, you can.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 21, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing that could help the Cubs...
…and it will take a couple years to take effect, is a boom in the economy and salaries skyrocketing. Then what looks like an albatross now isn’t quite as bad.
But I would not count on any economical boom just yet.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 21, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both of you have solid points here.
The Cubs are hamstrung to a degree sure, you can rid yourself of Miles, and an improving economy could give them a little flexibility. I think for the future the biggest improvement needs to be in the minor league system…gut most of the people there as they haven’t been good at evaluating talent. If you improve it greatly I don’t think it would take as long as you think to see rewards…surely Tampa shows you how you can build a contender from the ground up. Not fast sure, but not a decade later either.
I’d hope that new management could solve other problems besides Miles, I know Sori’s contract can’t be waived…but if Bradley isn’t who they want he might be moved if Rickett was willing to eat part of his contract. I’d say not next year but hopefully the year after we could see some meaningful moves of the under performing players…I just hope we haven’t lost Lilly or Lee…players that have performed in the process. We do need to retain the good performers as well as adding the obvious holes we have now like 2nd base, perhaps right field and catcher. I am glad I have hope now even if it’s a slow and painful process.
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 21, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is terrible
I mean, c’mon, the Cubs are going through bankruptcy. And unlike all of the banks and massive corporations who get to divest themselves of toxic assets and unworkable contracts, we’re still stuck with Miles? And we can’t even lop a couple of years off of Soriano’s contract?
I call foul!
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 21, 2009 5:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's to separate the Cubs from Zell's nightmare TribCo.
from a liability perspective.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 21, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know
I should have put up the sarcasm sign
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 21, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would have helped
I’m usually too dense to know ahead of time. :^|
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by blackhawk24 on Aug 21, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If YOU signed a contract
would you like somebody to then say — “never mind” and void it?
The NFL has non-guaranteed contracts. MLB does not.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 21, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never really understood the non-guarenteed contract idea...
If it’s not guarenteed, what’s the point of a contract (from the players perspective, I mean)…?
by CubsWin!Oregon on Aug 21, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think they can get significant bonus money
But I agree with the idea why sign something that’s not all guaranteed.
Golic usually points out an X year deal really breaks down to X 1-year deals with many contracts.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 21, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the positives
Well this is my first post so I am not going negative with it. Ironic and historic the Cubs file for bankruptcy this yr. Wonder how many people said “jim Hendry is gonna bankrupt the cubs with these huge contracts.” the last few years? Damn, he did. not really of course but fitting this yr. The positives are the Cubs will end with a record over 500 this yr. and new owners to make some minor adjustments for next year. It will all be ok. Who knows maybe an a.azing sep. this yr puts us back in the playoffs.
by TNcubfan on Aug 21, 2009 5:14 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I don't want to jump on your first post
and welcome, but you’ve got to know that the Cubs bankruptcy has nothing to do with Hendry and contracts and everything to do with Sam Zell’s highly-leveraged buyout of a newspaper company just as the newspaper industry was collapsing.
But again, welcome and keep posting.
by Josh77 on Aug 21, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you Ricketts family.
This has been long overdue. No more newspaper conglomerate management and chewing gum magnates. Please don’t retain Lou Piniella’s services after the season and sign off on the Wrigley Field renovations we’ve been hearing about for years now.
by china423 on Aug 21, 2009 5:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How cool it would be
if this gets finished, for Tom to address the media the way John McD did his last year? And, to add, “…another top goal is to beat the pants off of the Cardinals every single year.”
Remember when Lovie Smith addressed Bears-Packers as he took over?
by The E-Man on Aug 21, 2009 5:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And he has a pretty good wpct vs the green-n-gold
Too bad not as good against all the rest of the league.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 21, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Aaron is our second baseman."
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Aug 21, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There were rumors (unfounded)
That Sandy Alderson was being considered by one of the groups….which one I don’t remember — as CEO.
You don’t want that.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 21, 2009 5:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That was the trash BLou was talking about yesterday.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 21, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was in the SD papers
a month ago, so Blue Mike is a bit late with da news. (Figures.) Seeing that in print scared the hell out of me, because Alderson is an overrated loon.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 21, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alderson is a sure way to set this organization back 30 years.
He will bring the urgency of a sloth to getting things done.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 21, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, and...
… there are other teams after him. They can have him.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 21, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one not totally convinced yet that we need to get rid of Lou and/or Hendry?
I’m all for getting rid of the blue jerseys though.
"Fasten your seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Aug 21, 2009 5:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no
we don’t need to get rid of Lou and/or Hendry. And I don’t think Ricketts will.
"I’m not going to allow Al Yellon to flush this thing down the crapper without a fight." (BLOU)
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 21, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Call me crazy since the big contracts are a big liability now
But Hendry sure did bring some winning teams here. Im not fully convinced of moving Lou or Hendry either. I think the Cubs could use some changes…definitely in the farm system, and some at the top. I just hope Ricketts looks into it enough and gets good enough minds to evaluate it he does get the best minds for the jobs. Staying pat hasn’t worked this year…but who exactly to replace is a big question to me…because if you do fire the GM, the manager, president, etc…better have someone better to hire in mind or it gets you nowhere. That’s why I’m not convinced about Hendry or Lou…sure both made mistakes and big ones this year, but who exactly do you hire that’s better?
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 21, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Now, What's Next ??
Great — the Ricketts will soon own the Cubs.
The bigger question: what exactly are they planning to do as the new owners?
After spending the better part of a billion dollars to acquire the team, is the explicit objective winning the World Series and immediately implementing a plan to achieve the same? We should hear that repeatedly on Day One. Personally, I will have little tolerance being told the team now has little or no money to spend and is handcuffed by existing contracts to players and management. What specific out of the gate actions will demonstrate that a new era has begun?
Additionally, what are their plans for Wrigley Field? Are we going to get the kind of long-term commitment that Red Sox ownership has made to Fenway? When will we see major improvements?
The Cubs are one of the most valuable major market franchises in all of sports. Are we finally getting ownership that runs our beloved team as a world class organization? I can’t wait to hear.
If It Takes Forever ....
by wrigley1 on Aug 21, 2009 6:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wrigley will be torn...
…down, and the Cubs moved to Ricketts Field somewhere out in the ‘burbs; at least, that’s what I have heard from somebody here before. It went something akin to, there’s plenty of rail service, freeway access, and we can build a huge ninety-thousand seat stadium to decrease demand.
Rickey has spoken. Keep the Athletics in Bump City.
by LeSaboteur on Aug 21, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woo hoo!
As someone who is over 100,000 down on the waiting list, this is great news! :-)
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 21, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are there really that many people on the wait list?
I’ll consider myself really luck then.
Rickey has spoken. Keep the Athletics in Bump City.
by LeSaboteur on Aug 22, 2009 1:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Replying in the spirit of your message
I hear that they dismantled the old Busch stadium and sold it to Ricketts on eBay.
That thing must have held 90,000 or so — at least it seemed like it to me when I had a ticket in the upper reaches and the players looked like ants down on the field.
"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
by vonde6 on Aug 21, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's no way Ricketts leaves Wrigley Field.
The park will be renovated with more high-end seats and maybe a Jumbotron (which I have no objection to — it brings revenue).
Building a stadium with more than about 45,000 seats for baseball is foolish — all it does is give you a lot of really bad seats. With the exception of new Yankee Stadium — which is an exception to just about anything — virtually every new park has been built with between 40,000 and 45,000 seats, give or take a couple thousand.
Know why? They all want to have what Wrigley Field has.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 21, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I agree, and not just nostalgia
Though it has financial sense in it that it brings people to the park just for it being a landmark. If you do build another stadium you pick up better skyboxes and enhance your revenue stream somewhat for the future…but I don’t think Ricketts has the big pockets or revenue right now to pay for a new stadium to get that revenue. It’s just too big a loss leader at the moment.
I do hope he can work out a better deal for the Cubs with TV …the Yankees sure wouldn’t be able to spend the money they do without their sweetheart TV revenue share they get better than the rest of the league. Sure they have a much bigger fan base with the city around them, but our position could be improved greatly and that would help a lot.
by Sandberg's evil twin on Aug 21, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're really not against a Jumbotron?
I could’ve sworn that you were, Al. While I have no inherent objection to one myself (I like to remind myself who’s coming up to bat, etc.), I would hate to have it overwhelm what is now a legendary bit of architecture.
Would you rather have a Jumbotron or one of those wraparound things that are all the rage these days? Personally, I would find the wraparound-tron to be less obtrusive if, and I do mean if, used properly. Plus, it’ll be viewable to those of us who sit in the bleachers.
Rickey has spoken. Keep the Athletics in Bump City.
by LeSaboteur on Aug 22, 2009 2:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think...
… that a Jumbotron done right would be very useful… for one thing, there’s not enough information on the current scoreboards. It has to be done right, though. I suspect management, particularly under Ricketts, a Cubs fan, would be sensitive to that.
They put one up at Fenway. If they can do that, they can do one at Wrigley.
When you say a “wraparound”, I think you must mean one of the ribbon boards that go on upper deck facades, right? I’m not opposed to those, either.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 22, 2009 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're in agreement...
…then, Al.
So where in Wrigley do you think it would work best? Do you rip out the hand-operated scoreboard, combine the two, or find some other location? I imagine that the folk on the roofs would cry foul if one was put up and it obstructed their view.
Off topic, but I liked the whole rooftop access when I was a kid; it was one of the extra little perks Wrigley had going for it, but the bleachers today are ridiculous.
Yes, ribbon board; that’s the official name. I couldn’t remember what it was called, except that I notice them at every single stadium it seems these days. From watching on tv, LA seems to like flashing an ad for something or the other every couple of seconds.
Rickey has spoken. Keep the Athletics in Bump City.
by LeSaboteur on Aug 22, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is good news.
Can’t wait for it all to be over. Keep the blue jerseys. I love them. :-P
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Aug 21, 2009 6:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't mind them as much if it were a once and awhile thing
I hardly ever see the pinstripes anymore.
"Live and be happy, beloved children of my heart, and never forget that until the day comes when God will deign to reveal the future to man, all human wisdom is contained in these words: wait and hope!" - The Count of Monte Cristo
by Bricks and Ivy on Aug 21, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
They wear them wayyyyy too much
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"
by calicubfan on Aug 21, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they keep them...
they should just be a road alternate jersey and the pinstripes should always be worn at home.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 21, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I could live with that...
…but I’d rather seen them ditched all together. Maybe use them as Spring Training jerseys and then keep them in storage in Mesa. That way the Cubs could still sell them to fans who want em.
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"
by calicubfan on Aug 21, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT:
Wagner was claimed off waivers by Boston.
Jerry’s been so distant lately and Lovie barely calls.- Just Dave
by Allie on Aug 21, 2009 6:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
which means no one in the NL claimed him
surprising.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 21, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Money is tight
Wagner’s contract is still pretty big.
Jerry’s been so distant lately and Lovie barely calls.- Just Dave
by Allie on Aug 21, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I figured the Marlins or Giants might have taken a flier on him.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 21, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Giants already took a stab at Gary Sheffield
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 21, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True.
And after Minaya’s demands, perhaps that’s why they shied away from Wagner
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by Trey2317 on Aug 21, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for completing my thoughts there
Its been a long day
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 21, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not a problem.
I’m running some MLB Gameday right now, so I’ve got some time on my hands.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 21, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lineup is in
Early too:
Riot
Milton
Lee
Rami
Baker
Sori
Soto
Fuld
Wells
Jerry’s been so distant lately and Lovie barely calls.- Just Dave
by Allie on Aug 21, 2009 6:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is there a left on the mound?
Otherwise I see no reason why Dome is sitting.
Rickey has spoken. Keep the Athletics in Bump City.
by LeSaboteur on Aug 21, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep. Randy Wolf
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 21, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, I couldn't remember.
I only remember Haeger and Billingsley over the weekend were taking to the mound for the Dodgers.
Thanks.
Rickey has spoken. Keep the Athletics in Bump City.
by LeSaboteur on Aug 21, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Wolf is a lefty
Jerry’s been so distant lately and Lovie barely calls.- Just Dave
by Allie on Aug 21, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lou honestly thinks Fuld will hit Wolf better than Fukudome?
I’m so sick of the lh rh matchup bullshit.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 21, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course he does.
Lou likes his matchups these days. The NLDS was his wake-up call; if it’s not left-handedness, then it’s something else. It’s the beginning of the “specialist” era.
Miles can specialize in the easy 4-3 put out when you want the other guys to feel good.
Rickey has spoken. Keep the Athletics in Bump City.
by LeSaboteur on Aug 21, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dome is .171 vs LHP's
That’s as bad as miles .168 vs RHPs. My reall issue is why riot’s leadoff with Fuld in, but I suppose that’s better than sticking him in there when Dome’s available.
by DisCUBbobulated on Aug 21, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In only 41 ABs though...
He’s hit them better lately when given the opportunity.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 21, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 21, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he were like Miles (switch hitter)
it wouldn’t matter who was at the plate.
"Live and be happy, beloved children of my heart, and never forget that until the day comes when God will deign to reveal the future to man, all human wisdom is contained in these words: wait and hope!" - The Count of Monte Cristo
by Bricks and Ivy on Aug 21, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i mean on the mound
"Live and be happy, beloved children of my heart, and never forget that until the day comes when God will deign to reveal the future to man, all human wisdom is contained in these words: wait and hope!" - The Count of Monte Cristo
by Bricks and Ivy on Aug 21, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
Lou is actually managing Fukudome much better this year. Making sure Dome has reserves down the stretch means sitting him every once in a while. Now, I would have preferred Fox over Fuld, but…
"I’m not going to allow Al Yellon to flush this thing down the crapper without a fight." (BLOU)
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 21, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe Soliano is in.
Doesn’t Lou listen to us?
"Fasten your seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Aug 21, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I predict 2 HRs and 2 K's from him tonight.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 21, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
optimistic about 2 hr's arent you?
I would be happy with two singles from him. Lou is an idiot for playing Soriano time after time through his cold streak. Sit him for a few days so he can clear his mind and change his approach. Use him as pinch hitter alternative to Aaron Miles. Just quit putting him out there while he’s struggling. It’s frustrating watching him strikeout on sliders that are that are thrown closer to first base than home base when we have men on base. I used to support Lou through all his crazy managerial tactics, but now I’m feeling his stuborness should be cause for him to fired. Unwilling to change or adapt to players who aren’t producing, it’s ruckin’ fidiculous.
by aznsensation on Aug 21, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Change
his approach?
I think it’ll take more than a few days to do that
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 21, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
any excuse to sit him down for a few days
this team really needs it. He’s a momentum killer.
by aznsensation on Aug 21, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soriano's .170 vs LHP's with 2 hr's ALL YEAR with an OPS of .531
And the reason Fox isn’t in is? This is ridiculous.
by DisCUBbobulated on Aug 21, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes
these lineups resemble ones a 10 year old would put together on MLB 09 The Show (or MLB 2k9, whatever your preferred flavor is)
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 21, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He often hammers south paws w/o a lot of movement
let’s hope tonite is one of those games.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 21, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I'll watch this until Miles gets put in the game
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 21, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me know when the ink is dry.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Aug 21, 2009 6:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
somethings gotta give...
3 fill in da blanks: “gee i’m glad we aquired______________ this offseason”, “glad Hendry struggled to keep __________ this offseason” & “at least Lou had the guts to bench __________&___________ when they were doing nothing for our team.” i don’t expect a “next yr turn-around”. if you continue to do what you’ve always done, you always get what you’ve always gotten…
by jeffstorm2 on Aug 21, 2009 10:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think there will be wholesale changes, at least not right away
Ricketts will own the team, he can employ whomever he wants. I just think he’ll take a year to view things from the inside.
I can see Lou leaving, though he’ll engineer a buy out of some sort. I just get the feeling he is tired.
by Nibbles on Aug 21, 2009 10:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is a plausible scenario.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 22, 2009 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great great news!
Now if the club can finish over .500, I’ll be satisfied. Not as happy as if they make the postseason, but satisfied.
by CaliCub on Aug 21, 2009 10:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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