Return To Fox-TV: Cubs vs. Dodgers Preview, Saturday 8/22, 3:10 CT
by Al Yellon on Aug 22, 2009 1:00 PM CDT
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PrintThe Cubs haven't had a visit to Fox-TV's Saturday regional telecasts in over a month (since July 11), so let's see which of you will be "treated" -- and I use the word loosely -- to today's telecast.
Guess what the other game is? You probably don't need to. It's those two East Coast teams who shall remain nameless here. Naturally, the New York-based television network thinks everyone should see them. Here's the complete list of markets carrying the Cubs/Dodgers game:
Albuqerque, NM; Bakersfield, CA; Bowling Green, KY; Casper, WY; Cedar Rapids, IA; Champaign, IL; Cheyenne, WY; Chicago, IL; Chico, CA; Cincinnati, OH; Colorado Springs, CO; Columbia, MO; Davenport, IA; Dayton, OH; Denver, CO; Des Moines, IA; Eureka, CA; Evansville, IN; Ft. Smith, AR; Ft. Wayne, IN; Fresno, CA; Grand Junction, CO; Green Bay, WI; Honolulu, HI; Houston, TX; Indianapolis, IN; Jackson, TN; Joplin, MO; Kansas City, MO; LaCrosse, WI; Las Vegas, NV; Lexington, KY; Lincoln, NE; Los Angeles, CA; Louisville, KY; Madison, WI; Medford, OR; Memphis, TN; Milwaukee, WI; Monterey, CA; Nashville, TN; North Platte, NE; Oklahoma City, OK; Omaha, NE; Ottumwa, IA; Paducah, KY; Palm Springs, CA; Peoria, IL; Phoenix, AZ; Quincy, IL; Reno, NV; Rockford, IL; Sacramento, CA; San Diego, CA; San Francisco, CA; Sacramento, CA; Sioux City, IA; South Bend, IN; Springfield, IL; Springfield, MO; St. Louis, MO; Terre Haute, IN; Topeka, KS; Tucson, AZ; Tulsa, OK; Wausau, WI; Wichita, KS; Yuma, AZ
In summary: Illinois, Indiana, Missouri, Iowa, Kansas, Arizona, Nevada, California, Wyoming, Wisconsin, Colorado, Hawaii, and parts of Tennessee, New Mexico, Texas, Nebraska and Ohio.
Try to enjoy the game. Maybe you consider yourself lucky if you can't see it.
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Charlie Haeger had a typical knuckleballer's start in his return to the major leagues last Monday vs. the Cardinals. He struck out two and didn't walk anyone -- but gave up a pair of homers, the difference in a 3-2 Cardinals win. He's one of only two active practitioners of the nearly lost knuckleball art, the other being Tim Wakefield. The Cubs never faced him in his two brief callups with the White Sox in 2006 and 2007; as far as I can tell the last time the Cubs faced a knuckleballer, it was Wakefield on June 12, 2005 at Wrigley Field; boxscore posted for amusement value only. Knuckleballers can either be lights-out or get pounded; hopefully it'll be "get pounded" today. The only current Cub Haeger has ever faced is Jeff Baker (0-for-1).
Ted Lilly and the Cubs defeated the Dodgers on May 29 at Wrigley Field. Familiar score, too -- 2-1. Ted was originally drafted by the Dodgers organization in 1996 and is 3-0, 3.20 in four starts vs. LA. The Dodgers who he defeated in May were Manny-less; Manny Ramirez has hit four HR off Ted, but is only 11-for-42 (.262) overall.
See the list above the fold to check if the game is on the Fox affiliate in your city. For other games today see the MLB.com Mediacenter.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Please visit our SB Nation Dodgers site True Blue LA.
Overflow comment threads will post today at 4:15 pm, 5:15 pm and 6 pm CDT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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it's on Comcast and Directv
not sure about Dish network or other cable systems
by LT on Aug 22, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Is that on MLB.TV (internet) as well?
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
The Lilly factor gives us an immediate advantage
"Brant Brown...DROPS THE BALL!!!!"
by cubswgnrocks on Aug 22, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
This just somehow does not sound like Al.
Try to enjoy the game. Maybe you consider yourself lucky if you can’t see it.: Al, do not give up the ship!
We need the split in L.A., desperatly… Eamus Catuli
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
Exactly!
I’m not giving up the ship, trust me.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Good!
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
With Carpenter going
in SD tonight, a win by the Cubs likely is necessary to avoid dropping another game to the Cardinals.
I find myself caring less and less about this season...
Quite honestly, everything that can go wrong, has gone wrong.
Kevin Gregg SUCKS.
Aaron Miles REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY SUCKS.
Milton Bradley has 9 homers and 31 RBI’s and a stupid chirping motion to a fan after he hits a meaningless solo homer.
Mike Fontenot has been exposed as an everyday player…altough he has more RBI’s than Bradley.
Geo Soto has either a sophmore slump or he’s a one year wonder, I tend to lean towards the latter.
Alfonso Soriano has completely fall off the edge, and he’s here for FIVE MORE YEARS.
Zambrano is breaking down, and he has a grand total of 7 wins. Not to mention he’s a headcase.
Dempster of last year was a classic contract year, except Game.
Aaron Heilman is worse than Bob Howry, at least Howry threw strikes.
Jake Fox looks like he’s become exposed a la Micah Hoffpauir.
Plus, the manager makes baffling decisions and seems uninterested.
Yep...
I still watch, but have no expectations.
but we
have to put up with your lack of expectations?
"I’m not going to allow Al Yellon to flush this thing down the crapper without a fight." (BLOU)
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 22, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
you keep saying that
when I make comments.
He doesn’t have “no expectations”. He has bad expectations. And, apparently, insists that he gets to share them.
"I’m not going to allow Al Yellon to flush this thing down the crapper without a fight." (BLOU)
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 22, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
that's right
he does.
He doesn’t, however, get to do so in a vacuum.
"I’m not going to allow Al Yellon to flush this thing down the crapper without a fight." (BLOU)
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 22, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Just please be less sanctimonious
You are without a doubt the best and most loyal fan the Cubs have ever had. The rest of us have doubts and fears about our team. We are given the option to express them here, with varying results. If you don’t agree with a particular opinion, attack said opinion, not the poster.
Thank you Drew.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
so his opinion should not spark another to state their opinion?
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
no, I don't think it's that at all.
It’s not enough for cubfanwill to have given up on the team. He has to come and share it — ENUMERATE it. And there’s not a damn thing we can do about it. I’m not going to flag his comment for “lameness”, although I kinda wish I could.
He isn’t just giving up on the cubs. He’s trying to get the rest of us to do it too.
"I’m not going to allow Al Yellon to flush this thing down the crapper without a fight." (BLOU)
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 22, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
What on earth are you talking about?
So, since my opinion about this underachieving baseball team is negative, I should keep it to myself?
What if I thought your unrealistic optimism should not be shared here, and I thought it was lame?
Not everyone here is as optimistic about this team as your are Drew. And frankly, as far as wanting the rest of you to “give up” on this team, I could care less.
Obviously...
I care about this team, or I wouldn’t be here.
Of course I can share my opinions here...
just like everybody else.
Drew, just because you watch the Cubs does not mean you have to be optimistic about the state of the team.
and if a fan gives up
then stop posting about them, stop reading about them, and hibernate until next season. the negative posting is meant for two reasons only:
- to get attention from those who are not giving up
- to stroke their personal ego if/when the Cubs are eliminated
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
what about those who want to be sanctimonious about not giving up?
by Illicat on Aug 22, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
you mean support the Cubs and want them to win games
crazy thoughts there (rolls eyes)
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
I'm rolling my eyes
at all this bickering about what type of fans we are. You guys are so silly.
"Fasten your seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
And we're still in second place - go figure.
Most everything HAS gone wrong this year, but on paper that description fits the Nationals. Makes you think that we’re a few tweaks and a little more production away from winning 90+ games in the very near future. I think the Cubs are much closer to being a contender than needing to be blown up…
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
we're in second place because our division is BAAAAAAD
we’re two games over .500 and behind first by six games. That’s BARELY contending.
Thank God for the Wild Card
Seriously – I mean that. Unless they starting winning a boat load of games, the Cubs won’t challenge for the Wild Card. But it keeps the interest alive…
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
They are 6 games back in the wild card race...
You can't win in the postseason unless you can manufacture runs. - Hall of Fame 2B Joe Morgan
we're six games out of the wildcard, and would have to hope four different teams
completely collapse. We’re not contending for ANYTHING right now. and I’ll say it again, this team knows that. 1 hit last night. 1 HIT!
If they have any chance...
…it is the division.
Being 7 back with one team ahead, is a hell of a lot better than 6 back with 4 teams ahead – trust me.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
yep
Rockies and Giants will be playing each other..
same with ATL & Fla….
someone has to win…its hard to pick up ground every day
by cozmotaylor123 on Aug 22, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah, but...
… two of those teams could be virtually eliminated if one of the two groupings sweeps the other.
That could give the Cubs a chance to gain on the top spot.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Sinking Ship ???
Let’s see if after the season that “we’re a few tweaks …. away from winning 90+ games in the very near future”.
Right now it takes an optimist to even predict an above .500 record for this flawed team. A pessimist might say the wheels are coming off and the final quarter of the season is potentially very, very ugly.
If It Takes Forever ....
I wonder what Cubs fans will say...
IF (big if) they win 8 out of 10 on the next homestand?
We’re right back in it!
The season is not over yet!
Go Cubs Go!
Let’s let them play all 162 and we’ll see what happens. Just based on the schedule alone, there’s NO WAY they finish below .500.
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
true
but the Cubs can make the impossible the possible, adn vice versa
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
its not meant as negative
those who want to say we are done, well the Cubs have proven they can make the impossible happen. Why not see what happens instead of walking away
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
I'm not sure where you're getting that Fox has been exposed
He was hitting .305 10 days ago. It seems more that Lou has forgotten Fox is on the team, as he’s had three at-bats over the last week. This despite a left fielder continuing to start who can’t hit
I guess I mean...
That he’s another late 20’s rookie, that isn’t a good fielder. Plus, he hasn’t been seeing many fastballs lately.
That being said, I’d much rather see he or Fuld in the outfield than that guy.
he's not really seeing any pitches right now, because Lou barely plays him
Aaron Miles has more atbats in the last week than Jake Fox. Seriously
maybe, but before that recent slide, which could also be thanks to in-frequent playing time
he was 6 for 14.
Those 19 at bats span seven games. he’s not getting regular plate appearances
Don't hang your hat...
…on Fox. We have no idea what will happen to him as teams get a chance to see his holes.
Hoffpauir put up incredible numbers at AAA just like Fox, but he could make the adjustment at the big league level. Fox might, but I wouldn’t pencil him in as a starter next year, you may end up with another Fontenot situation.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Guess I'm watching the game online today
since my Fox station is showing those 2 teams from the AL.
But that's what EVERYONE wants to see
Right Fox Network?
In my opinion
we need some kind of change, and i think we should fire lou. It’s nothing personal to lou but this team needs to be sent a message that things need to get better, similar to what the brewers did late last year, which actually helped them into the playoffs.
it's not going to happen
Lou is here for the rest of the season. Hopefully he won’t be back next year and we can take that consolation prize.
Despite some fans not “giving up hope” I think the team, and front office knows this season is done.
One stinking hit last night? That’s not a team that thinks it’s still in contention
Milwaukee pretty much backed into the playoffs.....
…and Dale Sveum was only 7-5 after he took over for Macha
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 22, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
♫ The leg bone's connected to the thigh bone... ♫
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
♫ the wheels on the bus go round and round ♫
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Yeah, you're right....
I get all those shitty Brewer managers confused.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 22, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
What I would give for that.
On 2nd thought-apparently not as much as Worf.
"Fasten your seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
I have my limits.
I am very happily married and intend to stay that way.
"Fasten your seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
with a poll
and no you cannot DFA or place your wife on waivers, right?
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
You know what...
I’ll consider taking one for the team when the team starts taking one for the team and not until.
"Fasten your seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
awwww....
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
Heck, if both of them were in the lineup...
I’d put Fuld in center, Fukudome in right, and move Bradley to left.
but soriano walked!
thats a sign hes getting better! /sarcasm
by jesus christos on Aug 22, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
if only he was leading off
then he would produe better
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
I want a win
And I don’t care who I have to sleep with to get it.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
Done.
Follow me on twitter @andrewjstone.
by AndrewJStone on Aug 22, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Go for it...
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
TLR
get his mind off baseball
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
and lucky me
I get NYY vs Bos……
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
why on earth are the yankees playing on a west coast feed
and not the Dodgers
or Texas
Cubs – Houston same division
NYY – Bos not in Rangers division
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
the network not the player, I assume.
"I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix."
-- Dan Quayle
Haeger has faced the Cubbies...
… it was Spring Training, March 2007. I remember because Santo was completely clueless about Haeger. Santo during the broadcast had no idea that Haeger threw a knuckleball. I know it was only a ST gaming, but jeez do a bit of preparation (FYI the Cubs TV guys knew about Haeger and his main pitch – the knuckleball).
In that ST game Derrek Lee hit a HR off Haeger.
"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009
On the plus side
when Lee hit the home run, we didn’t have to hear Santo screech about putting it on the board.
By the time Santo completed saying “YOU CAN PUT ON THE BOARD, YES!” two innings would have passed by.
"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009
I had forgotten about that game...
… and I wrote a one-line recap as part of a movie review. Why? The Cubs lost 13-2.
Looks like Soriano and Ramirez faced Haeger in that game, too.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Knuckle under...
I had hoped that Haeger would get the long relief role in the Sox BP last season, but he was released late in the season. I enjoy the odd-ball nature of the knuckleball and have had a fondness for that pitch since my youth watching Wilbur Wood piling up the innings for the Sox. Wood had four straight seasons of 300+ IP and the fifth year he had 291!
The trouble for the Cubs may not be today but tomorrow and the next day. Maybe it won’t the same, but I seem to recall the Sox sluggers being screwed up for days after facing knuckleballers, such as Steve Sparks.
"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009
I've heard that before.
Didn’t seem to bother the Cardinals after they faced him.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Coincidence perhaps but...
…Pujols has only one hit since his HR off Haeger.
"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009
You're right
It was only a spring training game. Thanks for setting us straight
by LT on Aug 22, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
simple scouting of Haeger...
in his start against the Cardinals 78 of his 80 pitches were knuckleballs. No reason to look for anything else.
Just find it, guess where it will be and whack!
"I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix."
-- Dan Quayle
I'm getting old. I have no idea who "Kings of Leon" is.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
My kids have turned me on to them
not bad.
Miles is starting at ss according you Yahoo
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
Not again. I wonder what nefarious secret Miles has got on Lou.
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
Lineup Schlineup
Fuld, Bradley, Lee, Ramirez, Fukudome, Baker, Soto, Miles, Lilly..
I miss Blanco, but at least Sori’s out (for now).
by DisCUBbobulated on Aug 22, 2009 2:43 PM CDT reply actions
no TWO steps forward and ONE step back
We get Fuld AND Dome but no Sori but then we get MILES AT SS. Lou just want to say F)*&^%^ you to us.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm just hoping this is Miles "last chance" just like I was hoping last night was Soriano's "last chance"
Of course.. with Lou it’s like.. OK… NOW I’m giving you one more last chance. I mean it this time..no wait.. this time, next ti.., ok only three more times… period.. after that I’m really going to consider not giving you that many more last chances. i really might mean it this time!!!
by DisCUBbobulated on Aug 22, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
"ok miles, if you dont reach base youre getting cut!"
“oh you reached on a HBP, youre welcome to stay!”
by jesus christos on Aug 22, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
1st pitch thread, is it up yet?
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
there are ways of checking...
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 22, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Duh... It's been forgotten before... But it's up now...
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
there ya go...
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 22, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe it needs a little blue pill?
"I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix."
-- Dan Quayle
why is Miles "appearing" in front of Lilly?
"I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix."
-- Dan Quayle
Why is Miles appearing at all?
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
if there ever was a 26th man award, it would be Miles.
"I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix."
-- Dan Quayle
he should be the 41st man on the 40 man
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
The urge not to watch this game just increased w/ Miles starting....
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
yet it's tempting with the thought of no Soriano
and Lilly’s pitching
"Fasten your seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
I just came in from walking the dogs
And I found that Aaron Miles was in the lineup and we are already down 1-0.
I take it all back. I’m not sure I would sleep with Anne Hathaway to ensure a Cubs championship.
As Katie sort of put it earlier, If they don’t give a f—-, why should I give a f—-?
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
FOX tv sports
Hey Al: Don’t the idiots at FOX and MLB realize how much money they’re losing because most baseball fans refuse to watch Yankee games. I’ve gotten accustomed to hearing Pat & Ron’s game audio while sorta watching the games on Yahoo. The thing that irks me the most is that I’m not allowed to watch the live games on MLB-TV either. I think we ought to get a rebate for these games. Don’t worry, I’m not going to hold my breath. I’ve done some pretty dumb things in the last 65 years, but even I’m not that stupid. Then again, like you said, I haven’t been missing much lately.
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