The Tom Gorzelanny Era Begins: Cubs vs. Reds Preview, Tuesday 8/4, 6:10 CT
by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2009 4:00 PM CDT
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PrintTom Gorzelanny is a perfect example of a pitcher who could, possibly, return to his former good performance after recovering from injuries. He had a fine year in 2007, winning 14 games for the Pirates. In 2008, he was horrible -- I'm sure you all remember the game on May 16, 2008, where the Cubs hit four homers off him at Wrigley Field -- and he spent time on the DL and in the minors.
He's thrown well at Triple-A this year -- though I know there are some here who have seen him throw there and think his velocity is down -- and he will be given at least three starts in place of Ted Lilly to show what he's got.
Tomorrow, when Aaron Miles is activated (per tweet from Wittenmyer), Jeff Stevens or Jeff Samardzija. Me, I'd send the Shark down and stretch him out to start again. Bruce Miles agrees.
It will be more interesting to see who goes when Geovany Soto returns, which could happen as soon as tomorrow. As I have said before, I think it should be Micah Hoffpauir, who could use more regular at-bats. There is one distressing note in that link:
[Lou] Piniella also said Aaron Miles is almost ready to return from Iowa, which could mean a demotion for Andres Blanco.
Blanco has been placed on the DL, to make room for Gorzelanny. Honestly, how anyone could think that Aaron Miles could do more for this team than Blanco... all it is, apparently, is the contract they are paying to Miles, which I wish the team would just eat.
No lineup via Twittermyer yet -- he also tweeted that it's been pouring rain all day, so there's a good chance the game may be delayed.
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Johnny Cueto has started twice against the Cubs this year, both at Wrigley Field. He threw very well and won on April 22, but the Cubs hit him pretty well, including homers by Aramis Ramirez and Alfonso Soriano, on July 25. Soriano, in fact, is 7-for-15 with 3 homers off Cueto.
Tom Gorzelanny made nine relief appearances for the Pirates in late May and early June. He managed to get four decisions (three wins) out of those appearances, a very high ratio. He allowed runs in only three of those games; now, he tries to recapture the success he had as a starter for the Pirates in 2007. The bad news: he has a 7.54 ERA lifetime vs. the Reds and an 18.69 ERA (two really horrendous starts) in Cincinnati. The good news: current Reds did almost none of that damage; no one who is on their active roster has ever homered off him.
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This made me puke in my mouth...
Aaron Miles is almost ready to return from Iowa, which could mean a demotion for Andres Blanco.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 4, 2009 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I couldn't describe
the nausea I felt, but you hit it right on the head. Just disgusting.
I call to order the Just say no to Aaron group.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Count me in.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
Here
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 4, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Can we make it the "Just say no to Aarons" group
and include Heilman too?
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 4, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
The Presiden of the Aaron Heilman Sucks Fanclub duly notes this here message
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
I like this...
I’m in.
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by Chris Dobbertean on Aug 4, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
$20
If enough of us join, we can pay the salary, right?
I choose mine to go twoards Heilman. With Ramirez back, Miles should have less opportunity to, well, suck.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 4, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
No!
These two clowns are making millions of—partly—our hard earned dollars. They can pay for their own tickets out of town. The dues will be used to cover our collective psych and vascular bill.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
raising my hand
with two fingers showing. (quietly laughing at the irony of that….)
"This is a game to be savored, not gulped. There's time to discuss everything between pitches or between innings." -- Bill Veeck
I'm here!
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 4, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I find it interesting that....
… last night, Lou said it would mean a “demotion” for Blanco, then suddenly he’s on the DL. Fishy.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
they probably realized this morning that he has no options left
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
no he never had options left
he was signed to a minor league deal. Once they brought him up they couldn’t send him down without a number of loopholes. His callup basically meant he would either finish the season here.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
Fishy indeed
Sounds like political backstabbing. I feel inclined to hold judgement until I hear a bit more, but this seems very Machine-like.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
I cannot believe this guy is going to wear a Cub uniform in the heat of a race...
…..MIND F’ING NUMBING!!!!
I actually moaned out load when I read that line
just more poor roster decisions from the dynamic duo
by WanderingWanderer on Aug 4, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Blanco came in as a defensive sub last night, right?
Did anybody notice a limp or something?
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
So do I
and that’s why I wanted to ask the astute BCB collective if you saw something I didn’t. I feel nauseous.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Pretty amazing that the demotion of Andres Blanco
… is stirring such anger. I wonder if any Cubs fan will/can defend this move.
Maybe there will be a run on ginger in the greater Chicago area
As it does wonders to relieve nasua
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
He's got David Patton...
Disorder now. I hear it lasts until around September 1st.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 4, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
On the contrary
was pretty giddy and pumped when Marmol finally got the 3rd out
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He hurt his ego...
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
Excuse my French, but Miles being actived and Blanco going on the "DL"...
….is BULLSHIT. Just when I think Management is actually putting together the right combination for this team, they fuck it up…..
Who’s our back up shortstop now?
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
Why Aaron Miles, of course.
Which is…of course…total BS.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
Stands for Bad Shortstop
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 4, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
brilliant must +1
oakley that should be green
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Jim Hendry proved to me today that he isn't committed to putting together the best 25 man roster he can
Its pathetic really, still backup infielder is a pretty meaningless position and hopefully we don’t have to see Miles more than three times before September callups.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
Meaningless, probably so.....
So have a defensive standout for late innings instead of one who gives us nothing.
And, knowing Lou, Miles will be the first freaking guy in there to PH.
This really pisses me off.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 4, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh I'm pissed off too
its a crime that Blanco gets pushed out of the way because a lesser player can’t be stashed in the minors and Hendry isn’t man enough to admit his mistake.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
I never root for injuries.
Except now. Please get hurt again, Aaron.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I never thought I'd hear that from you Al
But then again I never thought BCB would be in total agreement on something either
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
"Miles to PH"...
Is an oxymoron.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 4, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Usually 1-3...
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
If anyone has Hendry's e-mail
Could he or she please send this link to him?
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 4, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Cubs email addresses...
… generally have the form
firstinitallastname (at) cubs (dot) com
Just sayin’.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
stupid question
if BLou is right, and we are all living in a fantasy world about the cubs making it to the playoffs…..
and no one cares about your fantasy baseball team,
do you care about the cubs?
Huh?
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 4, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's carry 25 pitchers!
/sarcasm
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 4, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
what exactly made you think management was putting together the right combination?
The team is playing well in spite of continued mismanagement by Lou and Jim. We are seeing Koyie Hill’s 25th consecutive start because of that continued mis management.
Jim and Lou need to be shown the door
by WanderingWanderer on Aug 4, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Our record without Aaron Miles
is no fluke. I really, really wish the team would rethink this decision.
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
Miles must have inherited...
… the Complete Collection Of Compromising Photos of Jim Hendry And Lou Piniella.
You know, the one that used to belong to Lenny Harris, Jose Macias and Neifi Perez.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I thought
Corey Patterson and Jason Dubois held those as well.
he has them
on DVD and jump drives with a mass mailing ready at a moments notice
so neal cotts for awhile
Every time he came in, I ponder outloud that I am left handed and would play for league minimum.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
yep
but you don’t throw 92 with absolutely no command. You would have to be able to NOT throw strikes for that role.
I would walk a lot of batters
plus the whole being female thing would be a problem in this case
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
That was the magic package that had Stevie Ire looking everywhere. I hear he
never found it.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
but is damn happy he didn't
since he got the last laugh and a ws ring
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Or...
He’s just signed to a ridiculous contract through next year. But there are probably some photos involved too.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 4, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
A flash flood watch has been issue for the greater Cincinnati area...
…so I’m really doubting whether this game will get played at all.
The two teams do have a mutual off day on Thursday.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
The rain
is already south and east of Cincy. Game will be played after a short delay. Nothing is to the west moving that way either.
Ah, OK. Thanks.
That’s why my name isn’t Tom Skilling.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
I haven't had
a thing to do today….work blows…probably going to be laid off soon. Needless to say, I’ve been checking the weather a lot…
Bummer - well, you've given many of us something to be happy about.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
I'm real sorry to hear this
Maybe you can strive to look like the guy on your profile pic. That’ll be a fun time, like when Homer gains 63 lbs. to go on disability.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
I tried adding
a pic of my wife and I at Wrigley, but it wouldn’t load up. Still searching for the “right one.” Maybe I’ll take a cute one of me with a Ryno Bobblehead next Tuesday!
Maybe if the game gets rained out there should be a group showing of Bull Durham
we watched Bull Durham on Sunday and I have to admit that it really helped me feel better after a not so good weekend of baseball
My favorite baseball movie....hands down
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 4, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep
I watched it w/ someone who never saw it…. so made it even more fun.
I use both the couldn’t hit water falling out of boat and million dollar arm and 5 cent head quite a bit.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Who did you refer to with the $1,000,000 arm
and $0.10 head?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 4, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually the line is $18 million arm and 5 cent head.
shame on you for baiting me hehehehe
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Just wonderin' . . . .
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 4, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
people can draw their own conclusions now from that :)
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Was that on purpose?
Nicely done!
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 4, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Summer Catch?
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 4, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Is anyone here willing to defend the decision to bring back Miles?
We might actually have something that all BCBers agree on, Al!
I want Aaron Miles over Blanco
I mean come on, the dude is like 5 feet tall (MASSIVE I KNOW!!!!). Think of the range he can provide for SS, absolutely amazing. And with that freaking arm? holy cow, how can he throw that hard??
Don’t even get me started about his hitting. Absolute beast at the plate…better than Pujols…nuff said.
Is it possible that Todd Hundley is no longer the most hated Cubs player of this millennium?
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 4, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
LaTroy Hawkins would be my most hated
And I actually don’t think every Cubs fan hates Miles. He isn’t a jerk like Hawkins or Hundley. He’s just terrible.
Right.
I don’t hate Miles. I don’t think he’s not trying (a la Hundley) or has an attitude (a la Hawkins). He just isn’t very good.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I agree
I save my actual hatred for Braun. Slightly OT last night in the 1st or 2nd inning he made Sori look like a damn good left fielder.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Braun and Hart
are two guys that I just feel I would punch in the face if I had the chance. Thoughts?
I'd punch Miles in the face
Except I’d have to dig a hole in the ground first.
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 4, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Corey Hart
yep and I’ll raise you a Jason Kendall too.
Hart I am rather indifferent about
But those Bug eyes just irrate me. Plus living in Madison there are girls who thinks he’s cute.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I actually had a girl @ the gym saying him being cute is what got her into baseball this year
Otherwise she didn’t want to watch it w/ her boyfriend. I had to bite my tongue.
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
is it appropriate
to say “only in Wisconsin are mullets thought to be cute?”
Only way up north in the back woods
Believe it or not most of us are civilized. :)
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Braun certainly thinks a lot of himself, doesn't he?
I’d guess he’d be a real jerk to date. Arrogance is not the best trait in a significant other.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 4, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
There's a shock.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 4, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Braun surprise face
Braun happy face <00>
Braun mad face
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
I would agree that Hunter Pence
is the creepiest player in MLB.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 4, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree.
Any way we can get him out of those socks he always wears way too high?
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 4, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
yep on Berkman
can he lay on the ground faking he got hit in the head again?
You know today's the one year anniversary of the infamous
“grab my necklace and run to the dugout” act by Berkman.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
The thing that gets me about Berkman
is the way he runs. I don’t why the way he runs bugs me but it just does.
"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg
He tore up his knee in the off-season
the winter before the Astro’s were in the World Series.
That may be why he runs differently now.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 4, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
You know Braun would top my list...
But for some reason, Jayson Werth from the Phillies looks like he needs a good smack to me.
"Whoever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" - Frank Chance
Fielder
used to be at the top of my list until this year. His tip of the hat to Johnson and the story about his uniform being a tribute to the old Negro League players raised my respect for him immeasurably.
Braun has now assumed the top spot for me too, followed closely by Berkman.
"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg
Fielders never really bothered me
Not sure why
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
me too
I actually like Prince a lot. He is on my keeper team. I started loving this guy when he was a 14 year-old launching them into the upper deck at Old Tigers Stadium. It just sucks he’s a Brewer.
Prince won me over
when he tipped his hat to Reed after he brought his grand slam back and made it an out.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 4, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Al's recollection of this story also helped me to stop disliking him
“True Prince Fielder story, relayed to me by a friend who often waits outside Wrigley for autographs while visiting players are arriving. Fielder came in a taxi, got out and signed and posed for photos for about 20 minutes, by all accounts being friendly to everyone. Then one of the people who sells candy for fundraising purposes came up to him with the usual sales pitch. Fielder gave him a $100 bill and took the entire box. True story.”
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2009/7/3/937257/walk-off-walk-jake-fox-one-of-many
Hahaha
Fielder gave him a $100 bill and took the entire box
No offense, but I doubt Fielder carries much less than C notes in his pocket, who cares what it costs Me wants some CANDY!
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"
To be fair, I think Miles is a better player than he's shown this year.
I think the reason he’s been so bad is he has been hurt for the entire season. He hurt his should back in ST and I think he’s tried to play through the injury.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 4, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
still doesn't mean he should replace Blanco
And I’m not sure you’re right.
Baseball is a business and Miles is signed for 2010.
It’s as simple as that.
The Cubs are without an owner who can make decisions for 2010 and I don’t think there is anyone who could authorize releasing Miles if they wanted to.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 4, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
then DL him again
Send him and Chad Fox on a cross-country driving tour.
The collective bargaining agreement
doesn’t allow them to do this. If a player is physically able to play, he has to be activated or a team has to release him.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 4, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Chad Fox is hurt,
he blew out his elbow, remember?
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 4, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
the point is that the Cubs play fast and loose with the DL ...
all the time. I don’t see why Aaron Miles should get special treatment.
That would be ironic.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, he's been on the DL,
likely for much longer than his injury required.
You can only keep a player on the DL for a minor injury for so long. If a player is good enough to play, a team is required to activate them.
He’s been on a rehab assignment for quite a while and I suspect he must have gotten to the limit or was getting close to the max number of days allowed for a rehab assignment.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 4, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
There's the loophole we need...
If a player is good enough to play, a team is required to activate them.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep
He’s isn’t good enough to play healthy or otherwise :)
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
man, you are really hoping he goes down....too funny
not that i completely disagree, he sucks….but ouch
Bob Brenly on Leo Nunez "Dan Uggla just saved Nunez’ life because Koyie would break him into a million pieces"
I just don't think he helps the team at all.
There doesn’t seem to be another way of getting him off of it.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
true. but with all of our injuries,
i just hate to wish for someone to be hurt, it puts that bad karma out there…just don’t want to see anyone of our guys get hurt…if we are going to pay his salary one way or the other, release him, i don’t see the big deal. it isn’t like it will cost us anything in the long run (i am assuming someone would give him the min, so we can keep Blanco at the min.)
Bob Brenly on Leo Nunez "Dan Uggla just saved Nunez’ life because Koyie would break him into a million pieces"
Is it possible for this team to have worse karma this season?
Do I even want the answer to that?
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
see Cubs 2004 for that answer
Bob Brenly on Leo Nunez "Dan Uggla just saved Nunez’ life because Koyie would break him into a million pieces"
You've been a Cub fan for a while now
You should know that “yes, it can always be worse” unfortunately.
Yeah I should know better than
tempting the levels of Cubbie occurrences.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
What's Milton's excuse?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
can't catch up to a fastball on the left side
I think it’s as simple as that.
yep
he’s diving into the ball and locking himself up. Fastballs in are easy outs versus Miltie.
Yeah ...
I haven’t seen him pull a fastball from the left side in months.
I'd rather he turn
into a little leaguer and “step in the bucket” opening up and driving hte ball to RF making the pitcher adjust to him. Make a drastic change.
Maybe
but his career year, last year, still had him posting an OPS of .753
Isn’t the league average .749ish? Wow. He peaked at average!
Correction
His OPS+ last year was 99 – in his career year he was actually below average.
This year his OPS+ is 30 (Rich Harden’s is 33)
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 4, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
so what you are saying is
he is less valuable than a former AL pitcher who is in his first full season hitting in the NL. Right?
That’s so awesome.
But on the plus side
Joey Gathright’s OPS+ with the Cubs was 27. So Miles has that going for him.
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 4, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
got me there
are we sure he has the hops to get over one?
I don't know
lets have him try again… maybe he can go on the DL b/c of soreness after a tetnus shot?
If Matchboxes don't count...
I’ve got a real car we can use.
"Whoever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" - Frank Chance
Yes
I really don’t get all the Miles hate. It probably is a very bad contract like several others I can think of but he has hit very well the
last two seasons and is decent fielder. Blanco has a better glove but I think Miles has more potential as a hitter.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 4, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
He has an OPS of .503.
You could hit better than that.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
He's also 32 (almost 33)
Without the help of David Ortiz and Manny Ramirez’s buddies, he’s only going to get worse.
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 4, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
He is about 70 points under his 7 year career BA
I am willing to assume that like a lot of Cub players who struggled badly he might be able to come back closer to his norms.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 4, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Blanco is a plus plus fielder at two postions......
….Miles is at best an average defensive player and is at best an equal to Blanco at the plate (this season)
Please, I don't want Miles back.
Andres Blanco takes pitches, at least.
Anyone know what Miles’ pitches per plate appearance is this year?
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 4, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay ... as usual, I don't know what I'm talking about.
But I’d still take Blanco over Miles.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 4, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
***crickets****
…uh, apparently not…
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
you wanna throw a weed joke in there as well?
it’s all the rage these days
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 4, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I would guess while he was in AZ
They said he was conditioning, I won’t be surprised if they made him lay off the donuts :)
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, I think that's why they sent him to Arizona.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 4, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
You know whats sad?
When a major league organization thinks its okay to activate a player with a .566 OPS in AAA.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
Very sad.
All we can do is hope he’s never needed to actually play.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Well, Blanco didn't play much
so I doubt this will matter much.
Poor Riot, somebody seems to always get hurt when Lou tries to give him a day off.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 4, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, let's turn the page
C’mon Gorzelanny!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pay some early divdends!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I actually think he was brought in next year for the 5 spot, but he could be huge for this year.
Back to roster back log
Blanco now to DL, and when Soto returns one of the pitchers that start with ‘S’ goes. Then when Lilly returns does the other go back to Iowa as well?
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
wouldn't that leave us
with 11 pitchers?
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 4, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
or if he plays well
could be slide into the bullpen and knock heilman out? Wishful thinking I know
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
I'm sure someone will be "injured" again at that point...
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 4, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd assume he'd
stay just to keep another healthy lefty in the pen. Get Headache-Home Run- Hurling- Heilman outta there!
Good luck tonight Tom.
I hope he does well and the Cub bats are on fire.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
that's disturbing
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 4, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
not a fan of gore and horror...
I prefer that part of my mind to remain closed, thank you.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 4, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Aaron Miles getting to play baseball for the Cubs at the major league level again:
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2009 4:22 PM CDT reply actions
Hmm. thread is slowing, can't quite figure out why...
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
Marriotti
on ATH just said Randy Wells is the biggest suprise in MLB this year. Adande said Mark Reynolds was and that punk Reale gave the point to Adande. Damn!
Well actually I don’t mind that Jay got punked, but just wanted to love for Wells.
how can watch that show?
It makes my ears bleed
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
not really, more storms are forming on the back end of that system, which is why the flash flood warning was issued.
Doesn’t look good for the game tonight.
Looks like the rain has cleared the Cincinnati area for now.
I see on the radar the other storms forming, but they appear to be all going south of Cincinnati.
I suspect they’ll play.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Alright, here we go!
Pulling big time for Gorzy tonight, I’m hoping he gives us a good performance.
Please tell me Aaron Miles isn’t coming back and I just had a very disturbing hallucination…
Seriously, who is really the Reds' pitcher today?
You posted a picture of an 11-year-old.
As for Miles, didn’t we speculate at one point that he could be hurt? If so, he deserves a chance to show us he’s better.
Two at-bats ought to do it.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
thanks.......
was wondering if maybe it wasn’t going to get tweeted (?)
by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
We have a lineup!
cst_cubs Bradley ’’rest’’ day against nasty-stuff RHP. Lineup: fuky, riot, lee, rami, fox, sori, font, hill, gorz.
I like it...
A little bit of Fox, not too much Bradley…
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 4, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
pretty amazing ...
Lou is sitting two lefty bats (Bradley and Hoff) in favor of Fox.
fly balls
seem to go out in Cincy—maybe playing a hunch with Fox?
Oh, I like the decision
I’m tired of lefty-righty crap taking priority over the hot hand.
not surprising...
Hoff 156 AB = 8 HR
Milton 184 AB = 8 HR
Fox 80 AB = 7 HR
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Forgot to add that those are their splits facing RHP
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
He hits righties...
Better than both of them.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 4, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed
apparently tribune guy feels, “you can’t send him down at this point in the season, can you?”
You’re killin’ me Smalls!
Ya, I'm not exactly sure what he was supposed to mean by that
cause it didn’t make much sense.
You’re killin’ me Smalls!
I'd prefer to
see Hoff get sent down. Unfortunately Hendry no longer take smy calls. ;-)
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
"He had a fine year in 2007, winning 14 games for the Pirates."
Really, Al? This is your proof of a fine year?
OK...
… he also had a decent 3.88 ERA and 1.39 WHIP, and threw one shutout. It wasn’t fabulous, but it was a solid first full season for a 24-year-old lefthander.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Oh, absolutely agreed...
I just found the justification in your write up to be a bit silly, especially since you realize the value of individual wins.
I was trying to be brief.
I figured people would look at his whole record and agree with my basic point.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
the last 2 pitchers to win 14 or more games for the Pirates...
14 Ian Snell in 2006
15 Todd Ritchie in 1999.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
15 Denny Neagle 1996
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
He won 14 games FOR THE PIRATES.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Lee got screwed for POTM in July...
Not sure if it’s been discussed, but I just read that Ludwick won the award. Boo!
And speaking of news out of St. Louis...
Jack Buck’s house burned down last night/early this morning. His wife escaped, fortunately.
In case you want details
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"
PHOTO CAPTION: "I said, DROP and give me 20- MAGGOTS!"
(In unison) “Sir, yes SIR!”
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
what are you going to do with 20 maggots?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Arrange them in a pleasing pattern...
Until they move…
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
Len says Blanco has "a left calf strain"...
Uh, huh…
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
Where's the first pitch thread?
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
I wondered that too...
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
Fuku-
Dome!
"This is a game to be savored, not gulped. There's time to discuss everything between pitches or between innings." -- Bill Veeck
FU-KU-DOME!!!!
lead off HR!! 1-0 Cubs!
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
Those idiot Reds announcers...
were talking about Kosuke’s lack of power… then the next pitch, BOOM! Love it!
Good way to start the game Dome!!!!
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
KOSUKE!
Watching on MLB.tv tonight, as I’m not listening to the Reds crew.
Visit bloggingthebracket.com, SBNation's bracketology/hoops rambling site!
by Chris Dobbertean on Aug 4, 2009 6:15 PM CDT reply actions
awesome
where’s the first pitch thread?
Let's get some runs!!!!
by Colorado Cubbies Fan on Aug 4, 2009 6:16 PM CDT reply actions
This thread is gonna be REAL slow by 7:15cdt...
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
I decide to join the game thread tonight and I can't find it.
What gives?! You all trying to tell me something?
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
well, it's your breath...
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
I thought the game thread
would post at 6:15 but nothing.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
should someone make an emergency FanShot gamethread?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Fine by me.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
anyone know how to create one?
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
Rami walks!
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
Emergency First Pitch Gamethread
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2009 6:21 PM CDT reply actions
I'll be back later. Can't do this right now.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
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