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The Tom Gorzelanny Era Begins: Cubs vs. Reds Preview, Tuesday 8/4, 6:10 CT

Tom Gorzelanny is a perfect example of a pitcher who could, possibly, return to his former good performance after recovering from injuries. He had a fine year in 2007, winning 14 games for the Pirates. In 2008, he was horrible -- I'm sure you all remember the game on May 16, 2008, where the Cubs hit four homers off him at Wrigley Field -- and he spent time on the DL and in the minors.

He's thrown well at Triple-A this year -- though I know there are some here who have seen him throw there and think his velocity is down -- and he will be given at least three starts in place of Ted Lilly to show what he's got.

Tomorrow, when Aaron Miles is activated (per tweet from Wittenmyer), Jeff Stevens or Jeff Samardzija. Me, I'd send the Shark down and stretch him out to start again. Bruce Miles agrees.

It will be more interesting to see who goes when Geovany Soto returns, which could happen as soon as tomorrow. As I have said before, I think it should be Micah Hoffpauir, who could use more regular at-bats. There is one distressing note in that link:

[Lou] Piniella also said Aaron Miles is almost ready to return from Iowa, which could mean a demotion for Andres Blanco.

Blanco has been placed on the DL, to make room for Gorzelanny. Honestly, how anyone could think that Aaron Miles could do more for this team than Blanco... all it is, apparently, is the contract they are paying to Miles, which I wish the team would just eat.

No lineup via Twittermyer yet -- he also tweeted that it's been pouring rain all day, so there's a good chance the game may be delayed.

Star-divide

Today's Starting Pitchers
Tom Gorzelanny
Tom Gorzelanny
Cubs
vs. Johnny Cueto
Johnny Cueto
Reds
3-1 W-L 8-8
5.19 ERA 4.06
7 SO 95
4 BB 43
0 HR 18
vs. Cin -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Tom Gorzelanny 3-1 9 0 0 0 0 1 8.2 6 5 5 0 4 7 5.19 1.15


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Johnny Cueto 8-8 21 21 0 0 0 0 126.1 126 63 57 18 43 95 4.06 1.34

Johnny Cueto has started twice against the Cubs this year, both at Wrigley Field. He threw very well and won on April 22, but the Cubs hit him pretty well, including homers by Aramis Ramirez and Alfonso Soriano, on July 25. Soriano, in fact, is 7-for-15 with 3 homers off Cueto.

Tom Gorzelanny made nine relief appearances for the Pirates in late May and early June. He managed to get four decisions (three wins) out of those appearances, a very high ratio. He allowed runs in only three of those games; now, he tries to recapture the success he had as a starter for the Pirates in 2007. The bad news: he has a 7.54 ERA lifetime vs. the Reds and an 18.69 ERA (two really horrendous starts) in Cincinnati. The good news: current Reds did almost none of that damage; no one who is on their active roster has ever homered off him.

TV is back on cable-only tonight, CSN Chicago and FSN Ohio. For other games today see the MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday

Baseball-reference.com game preview

SB Nation game preview

Please visit our SB Nation Reds site Red Reporter.

Overflow comment threads will post today at 7:15 pm, 8:15 pm and 9 pm CDT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Place!

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on Aug 4, 2009 4:00 PM CDT reply actions  

This made me puke in my mouth...
Aaron Miles is almost ready to return from Iowa, which could mean a demotion for Andres Blanco.

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on Aug 4, 2009 4:02 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I couldn't describe

the nausea I felt, but you hit it right on the head. Just disgusting.

by socalbob on Aug 4, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Present

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Aug 4, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Present

and pissed off

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Aug 4, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

here

pass the Scope, please

by socalbob on Aug 4, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll join.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here.

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by daver on Aug 4, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Count me in.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Aug 4, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

No to Aaron

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by tony412 on Aug 4, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Present

If the Cubs were an international soccer team they'd be called Scotland.

by mrtobby on Aug 4, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm in

how much are the dues?

"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg

by gwood on Aug 4, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

$20

If enough of us join, we can pay the salary, right?

I choose mine to go twoards Heilman. With Ramirez back, Miles should have less opportunity to, well, suck.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 4, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

No!

These two clowns are making millions of—partly—our hard earned dollars. They can pay for their own tickets out of town. The dues will be used to cover our collective psych and vascular bill.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Aug 4, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

And the cleaning bills

for all the vomit this move has caused

"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg

by gwood on Aug 4, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here and fuming

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Aug 4, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

raising my hand

with two fingers showing. (quietly laughing at the irony of that….)

"This is a game to be savored, not gulped. There's time to discuss everything between pitches or between innings." -- Bill Veeck

by MOCubsfan on Aug 4, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm here!

I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.

The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 4, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I find it interesting that....

… last night, Lou said it would mean a “demotion” for Blanco, then suddenly he’s on the DL. Fishy.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

He came up

doesn’t that mean he can go back down?

I will NEVER understand how this works!

by Allie on Aug 4, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

no he never had options left

he was signed to a minor league deal. Once they brought him up they couldn’t send him down without a number of loopholes. His callup basically meant he would either finish the season here.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Aug 4, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

TWSS

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Aug 4, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

FTW

"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg

by gwood on Aug 4, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fishy indeed

Sounds like political backstabbing. I feel inclined to hold judgement until I hear a bit more, but this seems very Machine-like.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Aug 4, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blanco came in as a defensive sub last night, right?

Did anybody notice a limp or something?

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Aug 4, 2009 4:03 PM CDT reply actions  

So do I

and that’s why I wanted to ask the astute BCB collective if you saw something I didn’t. I feel nauseous.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Aug 4, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty amazing that the demotion of Andres Blanco

… is stirring such anger. I wonder if any Cubs fan will/can defend this move.

by elgato on Aug 4, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

he isn't

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Aug 4, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's got David Patton...

Disorder now. I hear it lasts until around September 1st.

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on Aug 4, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

On the contrary

was pretty giddy and pumped when Marmol finally got the 3rd out

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by tony412 on Aug 4, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

He hurt his ego...

Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...

Amen.

by Zeke on Aug 4, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Excuse my French, but Miles being actived and Blanco going on the "DL"...

….is BULLSHIT. Just when I think Management is actually putting together the right combination for this team, they fuck it up…..

Who’s our back up shortstop now?

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 4, 2009 4:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Why Aaron Miles, of course.

Which is…of course…total BS.

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by daver on Aug 4, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jim Hendry proved to me today that he isn't committed to putting together the best 25 man roster he can

Its pathetic really, still backup infielder is a pretty meaningless position and hopefully we don’t have to see Miles more than three times before September callups.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Aug 4, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Meaningless, probably so.....

So have a defensive standout for late innings instead of one who gives us nothing.

And, knowing Lou, Miles will be the first freaking guy in there to PH.

This really pisses me off.

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 4, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh I'm pissed off too

its a crime that Blanco gets pushed out of the way because a lesser player can’t be stashed in the minors and Hendry isn’t man enough to admit his mistake.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Aug 4, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never root for injuries.

Except now. Please get hurt again, Aaron.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Aug 4, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never thought I'd hear that from you Al

But then again I never thought BCB would be in total agreement on something either

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Miles to PH"...

Is an oxymoron.

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on Aug 4, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Miles to pinch make an out is more accurate

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Aug 4, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Usually 1-3...

Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...

Amen.

by Zeke on Aug 4, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cubs email addresses...

… generally have the form

firstinitallastname (at) cubs (dot) com

Just sayin’.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

stupid question

if BLou is right, and we are all living in a fantasy world about the cubs making it to the playoffs…..

and no one cares about your fantasy baseball team,

do you care about the cubs?

by tootle on Aug 4, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huh?

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 4, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Started a little early, huh?

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Aug 4, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's carry 25 pitchers!

/sarcasm

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 4, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

what exactly made you think management was putting together the right combination?

The team is playing well in spite of continued mismanagement by Lou and Jim. We are seeing Koyie Hill’s 25th consecutive start because of that continued mis management.

Jim and Lou need to be shown the door

by WanderingWanderer on Aug 4, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Our record without Aaron Miles

is no fluke. I really, really wish the team would rethink this decision.

"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly

by ambrosiadreams on Aug 4, 2009 4:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Miles must have inherited...

… the Complete Collection Of Compromising Photos of Jim Hendry And Lou Piniella.

You know, the one that used to belong to Lenny Harris, Jose Macias and Neifi Perez.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought

Corey Patterson and Jason Dubois held those as well.

by socalbob on Aug 4, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

he has them

on DVD and jump drives with a mass mailing ready at a moments notice

by socalbob on Aug 4, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

and Hellman

If the Cubs were an international soccer team they'd be called Scotland.

by mrtobby on Aug 4, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

so neal cotts for awhile

Every time he came in, I ponder outloud that I am left handed and would play for league minimum.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep

but you don’t throw 92 with absolutely no command. You would have to be able to NOT throw strikes for that role.

by socalbob on Aug 4, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would walk a lot of batters

plus the whole being female thing would be a problem in this case

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or...

He’s just signed to a ridiculous contract through next year. But there are probably some photos involved too.

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on Aug 4, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

A flash flood watch has been issue for the greater Cincinnati area...

…so I’m really doubting whether this game will get played at all.

LINKY

The two teams do have a mutual off day on Thursday.

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by daver on Aug 4, 2009 4:07 PM CDT reply actions  

The rain

is already south and east of Cincy. Game will be played after a short delay. Nothing is to the west moving that way either.

by jthack on Aug 4, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, OK. Thanks.

That’s why my name isn’t Tom Skilling.

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by daver on Aug 4, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I haven't had

a thing to do today….work blows…probably going to be laid off soon. Needless to say, I’ve been checking the weather a lot…

by jthack on Aug 4, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bummer - well, you've given many of us something to be happy about.

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by daver on Aug 4, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm real sorry to hear this

Maybe you can strive to look like the guy on your profile pic. That’ll be a fun time, like when Homer gains 63 lbs. to go on disability.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Aug 4, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I tried adding

a pic of my wife and I at Wrigley, but it wouldn’t load up. Still searching for the “right one.” Maybe I’ll take a cute one of me with a Ryno Bobblehead next Tuesday!

by jthack on Aug 4, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe if the game gets rained out there should be a group showing of Bull Durham

we watched Bull Durham on Sunday and I have to admit that it really helped me feel better after a not so good weekend of baseball

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Ever been

to Dyersville, IA and the farmhouse where “Field of Dreams” was filmed? Amazing!! You can play pick-up games there everyday!

by jthack on Aug 4, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

I watched it w/ someone who never saw it…. so made it even more fun.

I use both the couldn’t hit water falling out of boat and million dollar arm and 5 cent head quite a bit.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who did you refer to with the $1,000,000 arm

and $0.10 head?

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 4, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just wonderin' . . . .

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 4, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was that on purpose?

Nicely done!

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Aug 4, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Summer Catch?

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on Aug 4, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is anyone here willing to defend the decision to bring back Miles?

We might actually have something that all BCBers agree on, Al!

by elgato on Aug 4, 2009 4:16 PM CDT reply actions  

I want Aaron Miles over Blanco

I mean come on, the dude is like 5 feet tall (MASSIVE I KNOW!!!!). Think of the range he can provide for SS, absolutely amazing. And with that freaking arm? holy cow, how can he throw that hard??

Don’t even get me started about his hitting. Absolute beast at the plate…better than Pujols…nuff said.

by desmoCubbie on Aug 4, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

ugh

dude!! you got the sarcasm all over my screen. Its going to take days to get that all out!

by Allie on Aug 4, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Aug 4, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

no

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Aug 4, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

LaTroy Hawkins would be my most hated

And I actually don’t think every Cubs fan hates Miles. He isn’t a jerk like Hawkins or Hundley. He’s just terrible.

by elgato on Aug 4, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right.

I don’t hate Miles. I don’t think he’s not trying (a la Hundley) or has an attitude (a la Hawkins). He just isn’t very good.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

I save my actual hatred for Braun. Slightly OT last night in the 1st or 2nd inning he made Sori look like a damn good left fielder.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Braun and Hart

are two guys that I just feel I would punch in the face if I had the chance. Thoughts?

by jthack on Aug 4, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd punch Miles in the face

Except I’d have to dig a hole in the ground first.

by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 4, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Corey Hart

yep and I’ll raise you a Jason Kendall too.

by socalbob on Aug 4, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hart I am rather indifferent about

But those Bug eyes just irrate me. Plus living in Madison there are girls who thinks he’s cute.

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Braun certainly thinks a lot of himself, doesn't he?

I’d guess he’d be a real jerk to date. Arrogance is not the best trait in a significant other.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Aug 4, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would agree that Hunter Pence

is the creepiest player in MLB.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Aug 4, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

those eyes man...

i think he is worse than braun

by desmoCubbie on Aug 4, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree.

Any way we can get him out of those socks he always wears way too high?

I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.

The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 4, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really.

He might be the most awkward looking player I’ve ever seen. Nothing he does looks normal.

"Whoever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" - Frank Chance

by STLCubFan on Aug 4, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Braun and Hart are annoying

but Pence & Berkman remain the worst in my mind.

by Allie on Aug 4, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know today's the one year anniversary of the infamous

“grab my necklace and run to the dugout” act by Berkman.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Aug 4, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

The thing that gets me about Berkman

is the way he runs. I don’t why the way he runs bugs me but it just does.

"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg

by gwood on Aug 4, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

He tore up his knee in the off-season

the winter before the Astro’s were in the World Series.

That may be why he runs differently now.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Aug 4, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know Braun would top my list...

But for some reason, Jayson Werth from the Phillies looks like he needs a good smack to me.

"Whoever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" - Frank Chance

by STLCubFan on Aug 4, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fielder

used to be at the top of my list until this year. His tip of the hat to Johnson and the story about his uniform being a tribute to the old Negro League players raised my respect for him immeasurably.

Braun has now assumed the top spot for me too, followed closely by Berkman.

"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg

by gwood on Aug 4, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

me too

I actually like Prince a lot. He is on my keeper team. I started loving this guy when he was a 14 year-old launching them into the upper deck at Old Tigers Stadium. It just sucks he’s a Brewer.

by socalbob on Aug 4, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm waiting................

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Aug 4, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Prince won me over

when he tipped his hat to Reed after he brought his grand slam back and made it an out.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Aug 4, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Al's recollection of this story also helped me to stop disliking him

“True Prince Fielder story, relayed to me by a friend who often waits outside Wrigley for autographs while visiting players are arriving. Fielder came in a taxi, got out and signed and posed for photos for about 20 minutes, by all accounts being friendly to everyone. Then one of the people who sells candy for fundraising purposes came up to him with the usual sales pitch. Fielder gave him a $100 bill and took the entire box. True story.”

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2009/7/3/937257/walk-off-walk-jake-fox-one-of-many

by madcow256 on Aug 4, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahaha
Fielder gave him a $100 bill and took the entire box

No offense, but I doubt Fielder carries much less than C notes in his pocket, who cares what it costs Me wants some CANDY!

"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"

by StevenABQ on Aug 5, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

To be fair, I think Miles is a better player than he's shown this year.

I think the reason he’s been so bad is he has been hurt for the entire season. He hurt his should back in ST and I think he’s tried to play through the injury.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Aug 4, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baseball is a business and Miles is signed for 2010.

It’s as simple as that.

The Cubs are without an owner who can make decisions for 2010 and I don’t think there is anyone who could authorize releasing Miles if they wanted to.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Aug 4, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

then DL him again

Send him and Chad Fox on a cross-country driving tour.

by elgato on Aug 4, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

The collective bargaining agreement

doesn’t allow them to do this. If a player is physically able to play, he has to be activated or a team has to release him.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Aug 4, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chad Fox is hurt,

he blew out his elbow, remember?

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Aug 4, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

the point is that the Cubs play fast and loose with the DL ...

all the time. I don’t see why Aaron Miles should get special treatment.

by elgato on Aug 4, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, he's been on the DL,

likely for much longer than his injury required.

You can only keep a player on the DL for a minor injury for so long. If a player is good enough to play, a team is required to activate them.

He’s been on a rehab assignment for quite a while and I suspect he must have gotten to the limit or was getting close to the max number of days allowed for a rehab assignment.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Aug 4, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's the loophole we need...
If a player is good enough to play, a team is required to activate them.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

He’s isn’t good enough to play healthy or otherwise :)

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe he could get hurt again tonight.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

man, you are really hoping he goes down....too funny

not that i completely disagree, he sucks….but ouch

Bob Brenly on Leo Nunez "Dan Uggla just saved Nunez’ life because Koyie would break him into a million pieces"

by Zakh on Aug 4, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just don't think he helps the team at all.

There doesn’t seem to be another way of getting him off of it.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

true. but with all of our injuries,

i just hate to wish for someone to be hurt, it puts that bad karma out there…just don’t want to see anyone of our guys get hurt…if we are going to pay his salary one way or the other, release him, i don’t see the big deal. it isn’t like it will cost us anything in the long run (i am assuming someone would give him the min, so we can keep Blanco at the min.)

Bob Brenly on Leo Nunez "Dan Uggla just saved Nunez’ life because Koyie would break him into a million pieces"

by Zakh on Aug 4, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it possible for this team to have worse karma this season?

Do I even want the answer to that?

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Aug 4, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

see Cubs 2004 for that answer

Bob Brenly on Leo Nunez "Dan Uggla just saved Nunez’ life because Koyie would break him into a million pieces"

by Zakh on Aug 4, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

You've been a Cub fan for a while now

You should know that “yes, it can always be worse” unfortunately.

by Allie on Aug 4, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I should know better than

tempting the levels of Cubbie occurrences.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Aug 4, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's Milton's excuse?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep

he’s diving into the ball and locking himself up. Fastballs in are easy outs versus Miltie.

by socalbob on Aug 4, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah ...

I haven’t seen him pull a fastball from the left side in months.

by elgato on Aug 4, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather he turn

into a little leaguer and “step in the bucket” opening up and driving hte ball to RF making the pitcher adjust to him. Make a drastic change.

by socalbob on Aug 4, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe

but his career year, last year, still had him posting an OPS of .753

Isn’t the league average .749ish? Wow. He peaked at average!

by Allie on Aug 4, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Correction

His OPS+ last year was 99 – in his career year he was actually below average.

This year his OPS+ is 30 (Rich Harden’s is 33)

by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 4, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

that’s just sad

"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg

by gwood on Aug 4, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

so what you are saying is

he is less valuable than a former AL pitcher who is in his first full season hitting in the NL. Right?

That’s so awesome.

by socalbob on Aug 4, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

But on the plus side

Joey Gathright’s OPS+ with the Cubs was 27. So Miles has that going for him.

by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 4, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

true

but Gathright could jump over a car

by socalbob on Aug 4, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Miles can too

Don’t matchbox count?

by Allie on Aug 4, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

got me there

are we sure he has the hops to get over one?

by socalbob on Aug 4, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know

lets have him try again… maybe he can go on the DL b/c of soreness after a tetnus shot?

by Allie on Aug 4, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Matchboxes don't count...

I’ve got a real car we can use.

"Whoever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" - Frank Chance

by STLCubFan on Aug 4, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Aug 4, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

I really don’t get all the Miles hate. It probably is a very bad contract like several others I can think of but he has hit very well the
last two seasons and is decent fielder. Blanco has a better glove but I think Miles has more potential as a hitter.

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 4, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has an OPS of .503.

You could hit better than that.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's also 32 (almost 33)

Without the help of David Ortiz and Manny Ramirez’s buddies, he’s only going to get worse.

by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 4, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is about 70 points under his 7 year career BA

I am willing to assume that like a lot of Cub players who struggled badly he might be able to come back closer to his norms.

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 4, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blanco is a plus plus fielder at two postions......

….Miles is at best an average defensive player and is at best an equal to Blanco at the plate (this season)

by JB 23 on Aug 4, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please, I don't want Miles back.

Andres Blanco takes pitches, at least.

Anyone know what Miles’ pitches per plate appearance is this year?

I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.

The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 4, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

3.61

Blanco… 3.38

You’re killin’ me Smalls!

by dtc0405 on Aug 4, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay ... as usual, I don't know what I'm talking about.

But I’d still take Blanco over Miles.

I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.

The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 4, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

For their careers:

3.82, the same…

You’re killin’ me Smalls!

by dtc0405 on Aug 4, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

***crickets****

…uh, apparently not…

Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...

Amen.

by Zeke on Aug 4, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I read Soto

did well in TN last night. Any word on if he’s been laying off the Krispy Kremes?

by jthack on Aug 4, 2009 4:16 PM CDT reply actions  

you wanna throw a weed joke in there as well?

it’s all the rage these days

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 4, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know whats sad?

When a major league organization thinks its okay to activate a player with a .566 OPS in AAA.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Aug 4, 2009 4:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Very sad.

All we can do is hope he’s never needed to actually play.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, Blanco didn't play much

so I doubt this will matter much.

Poor Riot, somebody seems to always get hurt when Lou tries to give him a day off.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Aug 4, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, let's turn the page

C’mon Gorzelanny!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pay some early divdends!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I actually think he was brought in next year for the 5 spot, but he could be huge for this year.

by socalbob on Aug 4, 2009 4:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Back to roster back log

Blanco now to DL, and when Soto returns one of the pitchers that start with ‘S’ goes. Then when Lilly returns does the other go back to Iowa as well?

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Aug 4, 2009 4:20 PM CDT reply actions  

wouldn't that leave us

with 11 pitchers?

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Aug 4, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

or if he plays well

could be slide into the bullpen and knock heilman out? Wishful thinking I know

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Aug 4, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd assume he'd

stay just to keep another healthy lefty in the pen. Get Headache-Home Run- Hurling- Heilman outta there!

by jthack on Aug 4, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good luck tonight Tom.

I hope he does well and the Cub bats are on fire.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Aug 4, 2009 4:21 PM CDT reply actions  

that's disturbing

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 4, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

not a fan of gore and horror...

I prefer that part of my mind to remain closed, thank you.

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on Aug 4, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

that is

just wrong. Aaron Miles wrong.

by socalbob on Aug 4, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

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by tony412 on Aug 4, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Marriotti

on ATH just said Randy Wells is the biggest suprise in MLB this year. Adande said Mark Reynolds was and that punk Reale gave the point to Adande. Damn!

Well actually I don’t mind that Jay got punked, but just wanted to love for Wells.

by socalbob on Aug 4, 2009 4:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Alright, here we go!

Pulling big time for Gorzy tonight, I’m hoping he gives us a good performance.

Please tell me Aaron Miles isn’t coming back and I just had a very disturbing hallucination…

by ZachenFoot on Aug 4, 2009 4:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Seriously, who is really the Reds' pitcher today?

You posted a picture of an 11-year-old.

As for Miles, didn’t we speculate at one point that he could be hurt? If so, he deserves a chance to show us he’s better.

Two at-bats ought to do it.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Aug 4, 2009 4:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Lineup

fuky, riot, lee, rami, fox, sori, font, hill, gorz

"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg

by gwood on Aug 4, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks.......

was wondering if maybe it wasn’t going to get tweeted (?)

by Madison Cub Fan on Aug 4, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

We have a lineup!
cst_cubs Bradley ’’rest’’ day against nasty-stuff RHP. Lineup: fuky, riot, lee, rami, fox, sori, font, hill, gorz.

by Allie on Aug 4, 2009 4:51 PM CDT reply actions  

I like it...

A little bit of Fox, not too much Bradley…

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on Aug 4, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like it too

Lets hope they get the game in tonight! and that Johan Santana throws a No-No!

by desmoCubbie on Aug 4, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

pretty amazing ...

Lou is sitting two lefty bats (Bradley and Hoff) in favor of Fox.

by elgato on Aug 4, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

fly balls

seem to go out in Cincy—maybe playing a hunch with Fox?

by socalbob on Aug 4, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I like the decision

I’m tired of lefty-righty crap taking priority over the hot hand.

by elgato on Aug 4, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

not surprising...

Hoff 156 AB = 8 HR
Milton 184 AB = 8 HR
Fox 80 AB = 7 HR

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

He hits righties...

Better than both of them.

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on Aug 4, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

why

jake fox is better suited for the middle of the order.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Aug 4, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

CTL is favoring sending Fuld down over

Hoffpauir, thoughts?

You’re killin’ me Smalls!

by dtc0405 on Aug 4, 2009 5:33 PM CDT reply actions  

That would be stupid

so thats probably what’ll happen.

by Allie on Aug 4, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

apparently tribune guy feels, “you can’t send him down at this point in the season, can you?”

You’re killin’ me Smalls!

by dtc0405 on Aug 4, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course you can.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ya, I'm not exactly sure what he was supposed to mean by that

cause it didn’t make much sense.

You’re killin’ me Smalls!

by dtc0405 on Aug 4, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd prefer to

see Hoff get sent down. Unfortunately Hendry no longer take smy calls. ;-)

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Aug 4, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK...

… he also had a decent 3.88 ERA and 1.39 WHIP, and threw one shutout. It wasn’t fabulous, but it was a solid first full season for a 24-year-old lefthander.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, absolutely agreed...

I just found the justification in your write up to be a bit silly, especially since you realize the value of individual wins.

by kanderber on Aug 4, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was trying to be brief.

I figured people would look at his whole record and agree with my basic point.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

the last 2 pitchers to win 14 or more games for the Pirates...

14 Ian Snell in 2006
15 Todd Ritchie in 1999.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

15 Denny Neagle 1996

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

He won 14 games FOR THE PIRATES.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lee got screwed for POTM in July...

Not sure if it’s been discussed, but I just read that Ludwick won the award. Boo!

by kanderber on Aug 4, 2009 5:50 PM CDT reply actions  

And speaking of news out of St. Louis...

Jack Buck’s house burned down last night/early this morning. His wife escaped, fortunately.

by kanderber on Aug 4, 2009 5:52 PM CDT reply actions  

In case you want details

Link

"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"

by StevenABQ on Aug 4, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

PHOTO CAPTION: "I said, DROP and give me 20- MAGGOTS!"

(In unison) “Sir, yes SIR!”

Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...

Amen.

by Zeke on Aug 4, 2009 6:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Arrange them in a pleasing pattern...

Until they move…

Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...

Amen.

by Zeke on Aug 4, 2009 6:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Len says Blanco has "a left calf strain"...

Uh, huh…

Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...

Amen.

by Zeke on Aug 4, 2009 6:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Where's the first pitch thread?

I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...

by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 4, 2009 6:12 PM CDT reply actions  

I wondered that too...

Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...

Amen.

by Zeke on Aug 4, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

ouch...

Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...

Amen.

by Zeke on Aug 4, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuku-

Dome!

"This is a game to be savored, not gulped. There's time to discuss everything between pitches or between innings." -- Bill Veeck

by MOCubsfan on Aug 4, 2009 6:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Soriano!

Wait… Fukudome!

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on Aug 4, 2009 6:14 PM CDT reply actions  

FU-KU-DOME!!!!

lead off HR!! 1-0 Cubs!

I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...

by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 4, 2009 6:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Boo-YAH!

Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...

Amen.

by Zeke on Aug 4, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those idiot Reds announcers...

were talking about Kosuke’s lack of power… then the next pitch, BOOM! Love it!

by kanderber on Aug 4, 2009 6:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Good way to start the game Dome!!!!

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Aug 4, 2009 6:15 PM CDT reply actions  

KOSUKE!

Watching on MLB.tv tonight, as I’m not listening to the Reds crew.

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by Chris Dobbertean on Aug 4, 2009 6:15 PM CDT reply actions  

awesome

where’s the first pitch thread?

Let's get some runs!!!!

by Colorado Cubbies Fan on Aug 4, 2009 6:16 PM CDT reply actions  

This thread is gonna be REAL slow by 7:15cdt...

Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...

Amen.

by Zeke on Aug 4, 2009 6:16 PM CDT reply actions  

I decide to join the game thread tonight and I can't find it.

What gives?! You all trying to tell me something?

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Aug 4, 2009 6:17 PM CDT reply actions  

well, it's your breath...

Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...

Amen.

by Zeke on Aug 4, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought the game thread

would post at 6:15 but nothing.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Aug 4, 2009 6:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Fine by me.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Aug 4, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

anyone know how to create one?

Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...

Amen.

by Zeke on Aug 4, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

STAT!

Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...

Amen.

by Zeke on Aug 4, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rami walks!

Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...

Amen.

by Zeke on Aug 4, 2009 6:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Emergency First Pitch Gamethread

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2009 6:21 PM CDT reply actions  

I'll be back later. Can't do this right now.

I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...

by Jimmyeatworld on Aug 4, 2009 6:22 PM CDT reply actions  

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