Tom Gorzelanny, Not Only Is Your Table Ready, You Can Have The Whole Restaurant; Cubs Beat Reds 6-3
by Al on Aug 5, 2009 7:48 AM CDT
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Roy Halladay? Cliff Lee? Who needs 'em?
Over the course of several decades, the Cubs have made midseason acquisitions of starting pitchers in the hopes that hurler would help lead them to the postseason and glory beyond. From Milt Pappas to Dennis Eckersley to Rick Sutcliffe to Rich Harden, these pitchers have had varying degrees of success in accomplishing that goal.
But not since Hank Borowy, acquired from the Yankees on July 27, 1945, threw a 3-2 complete game victory over -- ironically -- the Cincinnati Reds two days later, has a Cubs pitching acquisition debuted with such a splash as Tom Gorzelanny did last night in Cincinnati. (Harden came close to doing what Borowy and Gorzelanny did in his first start with the Cubs on July 12, 2008, but he threw almost as many pitches -- 96 -- in 5.1 innings as Gorzelanny did in 7.1 last night, and that was the game where Carlos Marmol helped blow a 7-run lead; the Cubs eventually won in 11 innings.)
Gorzelanny was outstanding, throwing an efficient 98 pitches (66 strikes) in those 7.1 innings, and not allowing a run while he was in the game (the only run he was charged with scored on a Joey Votto single off Sean Marshall).
Can we expect this every time out from Gorzelanny? Of course not, but he showed the form that allowed him to have a fine season with the Pirates in 2007. His velocity was fine, touching 90-91 MPH; he located his breaking pitches well; and his pitch count in the middle innings had him on target for a possible complete game (and maybe even a shutout) until he ran out of gas in the eighth inning.
Meanwhile, the offense was carving up Johnny Cueto; Kosuke Fukudome hit his first career leadoff homer (and is now hitting .367/.479/.583 in the second half), but the game remained close until the sixth inning, when Koyie Hill's two-out, two-run double gave Gorzelanny some breathing room at 3-0, and then The Amazing Gorzelanny (it does sound like a lounge act or magician act, doesn't it?) helped himself with an RBI single.
Derrek Lee chipped in with his 22nd homer, which tied his 2007 season total for the most he's hit since his monster 2005 season. He's on pace to have a 34 HR, 110 RBI season -- any of you who were hollering for him to be dropped in the lineup, benched or DFA'd were obviously dead wrong. It may have taken this long -- three years -- for D-Lee to fully get over the effects of his 2006 wrist injury; he is on pace to get back to the offensive level he showed in 2003 and 2004.
I would have liked to see Jeff Stevens, rather than Angel Guzman, finish up last night. The Cubs had a 6-1 lead going into the ninth inning and that's a perfect time to not overuse one of your better relief pitchers. Guzman did not have a good outing, giving up a two-run homer to Wladimir Balentien (doesn't that name look misspelled to you? It's not) and putting another runner on base before ending it. Guzman threw 22 pitches -- many of them unnecessary -- so does that make him unavailable tonight? Once again, this points up the worthlessness of a 12-man pitching staff, because all year, Lou has had someone in the pen, whether it be David Patton or Stevens, that he simply won't use. Stevens now hasn't pitched in a week -- why bother having him on the staff at all?
In fact, with Gorzelanny being activated last night while Andres Blanco went on the DL with (yeah, right) a calf injury, the Cubs actually had 13 pitchers on the active roster for yesterday's game. What would they have done had Ryan Theriot not been able to continue after being hit on the inner arm near the elbow in the third inning? Play Mike Fontenot at SS and Alfonso Soriano at 2B the rest of the game? Tonight (unfortunately), Aaron Miles will be activated and either Stevens or Jeff Samardzija will be sent back to Iowa. You make the call on whether that's a good or bad thing. (I think we all agree on the answer to that one.)
Apologies to all here for forgetting the first pitch thread last night; I got busy during the day and had intended to schedule it as always, but forgot. Thanks to santoswoodenlegs for posting the "emergency" thread.
The complaint department is now closed. The Cubs maintain a first-place tie with the Cardinals after the woeful Mets bullpen blew another game and St. Louis beat them 12-7 in 10 innings; Albert Pujols hit a grand slam in the 10th to put that game away. Note to Cubs management: do not ever, ever, pitch to Pujols with the bases loaded. He now has 10 plate appearances with the bases loaded this year. Results: 7-for-9 with 5 HR and 24 RBI (the one non-AB plate appearance was a sac fly). The five grand slams ties him with Ernie Banks for the single-season NL record. Walking him with the bases loaded: better idea, you give up only one run instead of four. The Cubs will know before their game starts tonight whether they can pick up a full game on St. Louis, because the Cardinals and Mets play a day game in New York today. Onward.
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Great Cubs debut! Wow.
Now… Can our bullpen please finish up a game without giving up crooked numbers in the 9th? Geez.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Aug 5, 2009 7:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
John Kruk made a suggestion on Baseball Tonight
He thinks Demspter should go back to be the closer because we have Z, Wells, Harden, Lilly and Gorzo in the rotation. He said “I know he has an ERA over 4.00 and he walks a lot of guys, but still….” and then added “The Cubs would walk away with the division.”
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
by DKT on Aug 5, 2009 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting idea
but I don’t think Wells can pitch every 5th day the rest of the season
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by NashvilleBlue on Aug 5, 2009 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He already has been pitching every 5th day for 16 starts
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by SackMan on Aug 5, 2009 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We were discussing yesterday
His innings count is headed way above where he’s been at any point of his professional career. Might be better to let him skip a few starts down the line (if we can afford it) to protect a young arm.
by madcow256 on Aug 5, 2009 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they were discussing doing this...
… and once Ted Lilly comes back they could slot Gorzelanny in occasionally to give the other starters a break.
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by Al on Aug 5, 2009 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't be bad to give
both Wells and Harden some rest down the stretch here
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by gwood on Aug 5, 2009 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
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by Al on Aug 5, 2009 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Things by circumstance seem to be setting up for a different approach
First it is way to early to fundamentally change the roles of the core members of the team, but it might be good to start thinking about it.
Gorzelanny was a high return, little risk acquisition but could pay enormous dividends. The biggest question is when Lilly returns, healthy and whether he will be effective. If you presume he will and return within the next 10 days than that does set up an interesting item. Cubs have but 4 off days (including tomorrow) till the end of the season. Therefore a spot 6th starter could have huge implications.
As for Dempster in a closer role this would be something that Piniella and staff might be thinking as he has read John Wooden’s book about adjusting the team for a post season and changing regular season roles into playoff roles. Be it Dempster or Harden are natural thoughts.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Aug 5, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Makes sense
Especially since the rosters will expand soon too
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by SackMan on Aug 5, 2009 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"If we can afford it..."
Being the key phrase there.
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by carmen_fanzone on Aug 5, 2009 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because that wasn't a disaster the first time
Dempster is everything we don’t want in a closer- control issues, lots of walks, always making every AB harder than it should be.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah... I really disagree with this.
Dempster, if he can right himself, is one of our better starters.
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by Fishbone2 on Aug 5, 2009 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i disagree completely.
i’d take all of our other starters before him.
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by buckmulligan on Aug 5, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've just recently....
erased the memories of Dempster as our closer.
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by carmen_fanzone on Aug 5, 2009 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember now why Dempster might never be the closer again
First week or so of 2007 Lou had what was, IMO, his greatest trip to the mound ever. Demp was in full Dumpster mode with the walks, Lou goes out to the mound and just says to Dempster “throw the ball over the f’n plate”
For all his pacing with this years crop of closers, I still think Lou and Dempster would be a worse combo.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually...
… Dempster had a pretty good year closing after that.
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by Al on Aug 5, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And since then Dempster is in better shape and has
altered his delivery to include the glove waggle to avoid tipping pitchers.
Not sure it’s enough, but Dempster has improved as a pitcher.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing like a good scare
to wake a player up
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My favorite "Lou trip to the mound"
was Marquis in SD, I think it was. “Throw strikes you effer” and he did. It was like magic
by Allie on Aug 5, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But still?
He walks a lot of guys, that’s not what you want from your closer. That was Demp’s achilles heal as a closer… walks.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 5, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's my thought to it
Sean Marshall has the lowest ERA of any NL relieft pitcher. (or something to that effect) They showed during the game on CSN, Marshall’s ERA was 1.23. Next in line was Ryan Franklin with 1.33. Why don’t we give him a shot if needs be? I don’t agree with Kruk on this one at all.
by jthack on Aug 5, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because Marshall is a lefty
He cannot pitch if he’s facing a right handed batter.
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by Ace Venom on Aug 5, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was originally a starter
which is where I feel he belongs anyway. Therefore he would be facing right handed hitters. He’s more than capable of pitching to righties
by jthack on Aug 5, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ace Venom forgot this.
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by Al on Aug 5, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but Lou and Jim
Don’t think lefties can get righties out, nor can righties get lefties out.
Also we need a left handed power bat
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's an interesting suggestion...
…but somehow I doubt Lou views Sean as a potential closer.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one does
I’m just saying if he’s forced to do it, it’d probably less stressful than watching Marmol or Gregg throw 30+ pitches and cause more doubt about our bullpen
by jthack on Aug 5, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, looking closer at Sean's numbers, it may not be less stressful after all.
As Shanghai points out, his WHIP isn’t particularly impressive. What’s more, though Sean’s 3.65 ERA may look good, his FIP is far higher – 4.42. And neither his K/9 nor his K:BB really stands out either. I’ve always been a big Sean Marshall fan, but he relies a lot on ground ball outs, which could get a closer into trouble.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Closer that pitch to contact don’t last to long unless they have a wicked out pitch. Mariano Rivera probably is the exception to this rule. He just saws lefties off so bad that they can’t get the ball out of the infield. You really need to be a strikeout guy to be a successful closer.
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by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 5, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know a site where we can find his FIP only when he's coming out of the bullpen?
Baseball reference has those splits but doesn’t track FIP. I imagine it would be better than 4.42 as a reliever.
by madcow256 on Aug 5, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a good question...
…and, unfortunately, I don’t have an answer. I get FIP from Fangraphs, but I don’t believe they break it out into “as a starter” and “as a reliever.” And I guess it is possible that Marshall’s FIP could be inflated by the eight starts he’s made this year – particularly the 7 ER drubbing by the Dodgers on 5/31.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, if you know what goes into the FIP equation
could you get the splits from Baseball Reference and then do the math?
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by Trey2317 on Aug 5, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, one could probably do that.
But I don’t think you guys want to trust my math.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm no math major, either.
I’m only good for looking stuff up that can be found in media guides.
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by Trey2317 on Aug 5, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ERA isn't the best judge of a pitcher.
His 1.31 WHIP is pedestrian. He’d probably be serviceable, but I don’t think he’s the best option.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 5, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Shooter lives forever!
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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 5, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To back up short?
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 5, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wondered this yesterday for the playoffs, if made, considering the bounty of starters.
For the remainder of the season and possible playoffs who has the best stuff, mental makeup and would excel and not pout on being in the bullpend?
Lilly (healthy) has been the best, non wells, pitcher. Wells is basically a rookie, Z would be pissed, Demp wasn’t a great closer, Marshall is a ground ball pitcher, Gorz has one good outing, Can Harden handle the load?
Seems a waste to move a decent starter to the pen and only use in long relief when late innings are looking for support.
I’m assuming Gorz will shuttle back and forth between Iowa and be a fill in starter (if he doesn’t suck) and Marshall will stay in the pen. Maintains depth, but doesn’t improve anything.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see why we have to take a starter and make him "the closer".
We have seven guys (Z, Demp, Wells, Lilly, Harden, Gorzelanny, Marshall) who can go multiple innings. They are our best pitchers (relievers are, by definition, guys who can’t start). Why not use them all for multiple innings?
Eg:
Game 1: Z + Gorzo
Game 2: Lilly + Harden
Game 3: Wells + Demp
Game 4: Marshall + Guz + Marmol + Gregg
Or in whatever order. If Lilly happens to go 8, just go to a short reliever. If someone goes 5 or 6, bring in one of the other seven starters. It takes more micromanagement, but it makes sense that you put your best pitchers out there in the playoffs for as many innings as possible. It’s not like you have to be too worried about overworking their arms – the season’s almost over anyway.
by cubsforever on Aug 5, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've often wondered the same thing.
I think the specialization of pitchers these days is kind of a perverse ritual, that has little rational basis (ie it seems to me somewhat arbitrary that people decide that once you get to the 6th inning, the ideal is to have 3 pitchers go 1 inning each afterward).
I’d love to see how your idea above would play out. Though you’d want to match pitchers based on how disimilar they are in stuff, to throw off batters…
by CubsWin!Oregon on Aug 5, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tom Gorzelanny...
have we fleeced the Pirates again?
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by mondello58 on Aug 5, 2009 7:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No... we didn't convince them to take Aaron Miles.
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Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Aug 5, 2009 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Pray that Theriot doesn’t get hurt between now and September 1st.
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by mondello58 on Aug 5, 2009 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's answer that in the evening of October 4th
right after the regular season ended.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 5, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he's back to form
it’s a steal.
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by slcathena on Aug 5, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh... and the Mets friggin suck.
Thanks a lot… way to screw up… supposed to have one of the best closers in the friggin game.
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by SackMan on Aug 5, 2009 8:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There was talk on
New York radio this morning that Reyes may be out for the year. What a waste of a year for the Mets. Lets hope they are still struggling when we face them. No more 2004 please.
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by Grockcubs on Aug 5, 2009 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct according to
Also last night, Luis Castillo sprained his ankle walking down the steps into the dugout after grounding out. And we think we have it bad? Charlie Manuel’s days are counted.
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by tony412 on Aug 5, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Charlie Manuel?
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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 5, 2009 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha, my bad, Jerry Manuel
that was a Lou moment
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by tony412 on Aug 5, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you mean Jerry
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 5, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I mentioned this in another thread
Just nuts , he fill down and he ended basically having to be carried out of the dugout. Talk about your freak injuries. Castillo was one of only two ( the other being Wright) of the mets 8 starting position players who had NOT been injured this year.
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by Doggie Stalker on Aug 5, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a nightmare that team is. A spanking new stadium and a clunker
of a team. Has any team gotten less out of a bigger payroll recently? It couldn’t happen to a nicer organization.
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by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 5, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Minaya is on borrowed time, too, I'd think.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 5, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially with that fiasco with the reporter trolling for a job with the organization. What a
stinking mess.
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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 5, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd think so normally
but he just got something like a 3 or 4 year extension last year. I guess it depends on how much money the Mets are willing to eat.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 5, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, like WMHG says, the franchise is a mess
They may not give the architect a chance to fix it. Not all of it is Omar’s fault, but a lot of it is.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 5, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Their leader in HRs... has 5
5! Ryan Theriot has more than that!
by Allie on Aug 5, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, David Wright has seven...
…but that’s still pretty embarassing.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT?!?!
You’re kidding, right?
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 5, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what happens when you build a ballpark
without considering the strengths of your team.
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by Trey2317 on Aug 5, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps they were trying to overcompensate for not having good pitching
and also maximize the speed of Reyes and Wright.
Or perhaps they weren’t thinking.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's funny
is a year ago, the Mets were worried Citi Field might turn out to be a hitters park. Apparently David Wright and some other players took batting practice and balls were flying out.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 5, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and then they closed
the stadium doors. Pretty sick total, huh?
I wonder what the lowest total of HR’s by a player leading his team in the modern era is?
by socalbob on Aug 5, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I found is...
Tampa Bay - 19 3 times
by tootle on Aug 5, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they may very well break that number
it’s going to be tough for one of their hitters to get to 15-17 at the current pace.
by socalbob on Aug 5, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sheffield has 10 and Beltrán has 8
Channelling the great poet Borat Sagdiyev: “wa-wa-wee-wa.”
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 5, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I think it's 8 now - he hit one in today's game.
But, yeah. His OPS is still in the high .880s, though.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still doesn't beat Demps' toe last month
Or Woody’s hot tub fall a few years ago.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 5, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't overreact to this, but
Gorzy struke me last night as a very, very poor mans Greg Maddux. Certainly not overpowering, focused on location, movement, and manipulating his velocity. Well done for one game!!!
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by NashvilleBlue on Aug 5, 2009 8:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You could also say Randy Wells is the same...
and if we get that sort of production from Gorzelanny, I am okay with that!
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by mondello58 on Aug 5, 2009 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is amazing how guys (Wells, now Gorzelanny) keep stepping up when a starting pitcher goes on the DL.
If only the bullpen and hitters would have more consistency, we would be looking at a nice comfortable lead in the division right now.
But so be it! Let’s hope the pitching (Marmol) and hitting (Bradley, Fonzi, Soto) can hold together and pressure the DeadBirds the rest of the season. Onward.
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by LAcarl519 on Aug 5, 2009 8:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Every facet of this team seems to be clicking
except the bullpen at this time. Starting to remind me of the magic from last season.
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by NashvilleBlue on Aug 5, 2009 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hope not
cuz that magic ended in a 3 game sweep. just saying.
by desmoCubbie on Aug 5, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hats Off...
To ’Dome for absolutely tearing it up in the second half this year and solidifying the leadoff spot…what a turnaround from last season, huh?
And to Koyie Hill…an unsung hero for holding down Catchers spot this past month!
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by NashvilleBlue on Aug 5, 2009 8:05 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Hard not to root for Hill...
Guy has logged a ton of innings and he is what he is… plus I love his quote below.
''This should be the most important thing you've got going on, right? You physically and mentally prepare yourself to play every day, and if you're not physically or mentally ready to play every day as an every-day player, then you're letting the other guys down."
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by Fishbone2 on Aug 5, 2009 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
for those looking to buy their annual jersey
i’d recommend hill or wells
by tim815 on Aug 5, 2009 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed, this change in the lineup might be the most significant one...
…that doesnt seem to be getting much attention outside of BCB.
by JB 23 on Aug 5, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gorz great, but
didn’t Don Cardwell throw a no-hitter in his Cub Debut? (early sixties-ish).
by BatCubFan on Aug 5, 2009 8:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
That’s the best debut after a trade in baseball history.
The 1960 Cubs, who Cardwell joined, were not a contending team. That’s the distinction I was trying to make.
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by Al on Aug 5, 2009 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Sutcliffe's debut was a shade better
8 innings of shut out ball and house of horrors 9th in which he was charged with earned after Smith relieved walked three and allowed the inherited runners to score( though those runs were unearned due to an earlier error). Of course Sutcliffe was a star to
Gorzelanny was more an achievement in my view but stat wise I would rate Sutcliffe’s start higher.
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by Doggie Stalker on Aug 5, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A four-hit shutout after eight innings.
And then a near disaster in the ninth inning.
Not sure which one I would rate higher, though I don’t have pitch counts for Sutcliffe’s debut.
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The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but given pre-game expectations...
Gorzelanny delivered a better surprise (versus Sutcliffe’s arrival in ’84). We need positive surprises. It helps to make up for the blood-pressure situations from the bullpen.
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by LAcarl519 on Aug 5, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although, Sutcliffe had been pretty bad with Cleveland before his arrival.
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by Al on Aug 5, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had a bad start in 1984
but he’d won 17 games in 1983 and was the AL ERA champion in 1982.
by Josh77 on Aug 5, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but wasn't it bad team support for Sutcliffe in '84?
I personally remember being very pumped about the pick up. the guy had a good track record and more of a track record than Gorzelanny had/has. I thought he had more bad luck than bad stuff on Cleveland—kind of like Cliff Lee’s losing record in Cleveland this year (though Sutcliffe’s ’84 #s were not in that league).
Lee’s actual #s were still lights out, when you back out his first two starts of this year. I think Sutcliffe, on a relative basis, got tainted with the same kind of bad team problems. The Cubs picked up a guy who was throwing in AAA this year for a perpetual loser. So of course, expectations were lower.
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by LAcarl519 on Aug 5, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
B-side
on top of which, Gorzelanny was the B-side throw in, the Matt Murton, in the Grabow trade. Sutcliffe was the guy the Cubs actually traded for. So now matter how you cut it, Gorzelanny had low, low expectations in his first start.
If Lilly did not get hurt, who knows if he even ends up playing here?
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by LAcarl519 on Aug 5, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As an Indians fan, I remember being very POed when that deal went down.
Of course I was still living in Cleveland at the time and had not yet nor been afflicted with Cub fever. I was thinking Joe who? Mel who? Grrr….
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by ballhawk on Aug 5, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, he did.
Here’s a link to the box score.
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The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our luck with starting pitching has been unreal this season
Z, Ted, Demp, Harden,Marshall and now Wells, Hart, and Gorzelanny. All these injuries and we still haven’t had many bad starts, and hardly any from the replacements.
Thanks for another win Dusty.
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by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 8:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We lead the league in quality starts
Now, if they only had a stat for quality closes
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Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
by SackMan on Aug 5, 2009 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good thing they don't.
Team doesn’t need us bemoaning them last in the league in another stat.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of quality closes
when was the last 1-2-3 9th inning? Been so long I forget.
by JFCubFan on Aug 5, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell, could have been last week.
Problem is the memories of those aren’t the ones that haunt.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
aren't those called
holds and saves?
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 5, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"holds" is the most bogus stat ever
completely worthless
by Allie on Aug 5, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
followed closely by "quality start"
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by ballhawk on Aug 5, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
QS's require six innings.
Holds don’t even require an out.
by cubsforever on Aug 5, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
really, I didn't realize that about holds
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by KaliCub on Aug 5, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as long as you exit without giving
up a lead, you get a hold.
by Allie on Aug 5, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay then, I agree a hold is a worthless stat then
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by KaliCub on Aug 5, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no outs?
That’s pretty silly. Should be something meaningful like require a pitcher to:
Enter and make final out in same inning (after 6th) where team in lead, or
Inherrit runners and make final out in same inning where team in lead or tied (after 6th).
All where not a save situation.
I really like the idea of a useful stat to measure the effectiveness of the bullpen roles for the 7th and 8th inning.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
6 innings
and post a 4.50 ERA.
I think the Braves changed a quality start in their terms to 7 IP with 3 or fewer ER.
by socalbob on Aug 5, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get that worked up
on “quality start”.. you should be able to survive anything below a 4.50 ERA.
by Allie on Aug 5, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only thing that drove me NUTS last night
Why in gods name did Lou have Marmol warming up in the 9th??? It was potentially a rerun of the Gregg overuse (throw 36 pitches and then go back out the next day) all over again.
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by AndHart120 on Aug 5, 2009 8:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know that...
that is crazy!
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by NashvilleBlue on Aug 5, 2009 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
The only thing worse was watching Soriano in LF
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by redivycubs on Aug 5, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am kind of surprised they scored that a triple.
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by Fishbone2 on Aug 5, 2009 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the expectations game,
Not even the scorekeeper expects Sori to catch that one.
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by KaliCub on Aug 5, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It did. Bounced off the thumb.
''This should be the most important thing you've got going on, right? You physically and mentally prepare yourself to play every day, and if you're not physically or mentally ready to play every day as an every-day player, then you're letting the other guys down."
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by Fishbone2 on Aug 5, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, the scorekeeper just couldn't see Sori.
You’re killin’ me Smalls!
by dtc0405 on Aug 5, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he even has problems with that too.
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by KaliCub on Aug 5, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if it hits, you must acquit!
sorry but it needed to be said
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by ballhawk on Aug 5, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Len's call was something like -
“Fly ball to left, and Soriano’s gonna… NOT make the catch.” followed by no comment on Soriano.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else hear
Bob on “The Afternoon Saloon” yesterday? They asked if Soriano was lazy or just not very good… and Bob … well it was funny exchange if you heard it.
by Allie on Aug 5, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't hear it. I assume he ducked the question?
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Check out the podcast
He didn’t really duck it… b/c its obvious he has an opinion. It was kinda funny, at least, I thought it was.
Hopefully, this link works. it was yesterday’s show.
by Allie on Aug 5, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Breanly sure made a comment.
He hemmed and hawed a bit, but it was clear HE though it should have been caught…
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Amen.
by Zeke on Aug 5, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed as well.
Seeing Marmol warming up only made me MORE nervous.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was prepared to shut off the TV...
if Marmol came in. Was actually cheering for Guzman to get out of his jam so we wouldn’t see Marmol, not necessarily just to end the game. LOL.
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by carmen_fanzone on Aug 5, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and we still have people wondering
why Marmol’s command is gone….
amazes me
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 5, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think you're simplifying things a bit too much
by claiming that the lack of command is purely a result of overwork. still, i do agree with you that it’s not helping.
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by buckmulligan on Aug 5, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because
Lou didn’t know if Guzman was going to implode. He didn’t want to wait too long in case Guzman let another guy or 2 one base. He hadn’t been in that role before with the Cubs.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 5, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't there someone else available, though?
Marmol threw 36 pitches the night before.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stevens
No wait, you can’t use him for whatever reason…
You’re killin’ me Smalls!
by dtc0405 on Aug 5, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, his name crossed my mind, too.
Honestly, I need to take a look at the Cubs roster – with all the comings and goings, I’ve kinda lost track of exactly who’s in the frickin’ bullpen.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, now that look at...
…the depth chart, Samardzija was presumably available. He hasn’t pitched since Aug. 1. But the fact that we didn’t see him speaks volumes about Lou’s confidence in the Shark.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, now that look at...
…the depth chart, Samardzija was presumably available. He hasn’t pitched since Aug. 1. But the fact that we didn’t see him speaks volumes about Lou’s confidence in the Shark.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But, but it's shark week.
I’ll refrain from posting the response twice.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is only a misdirection and used to warm up next
to the pitcher Lou intends to use.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and 91 pitches
in 4 days
warming him up last night should’ve been an arrestable offense
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 5, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Marmol pitched 30+ pitches the night before...
I would have taken my chance with Grabow
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by carmen_fanzone on Aug 5, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why he took Marshall was the thing that drove me NUTS
Best rested guy in the BP ( Save Stevens who probably is in Iowa but the forgot to tell us for a week). He gives up ONE hit and the Cubs
still have 5 run lead but you take him out because he is a lefty. He used to be a starter, he can pitch against righties. Guzman had not pitched on Monday but he had pitched a lot over the weekend. This is how Lou overworks the pen when it is totally uncalled for. Instead of using Marshall and Stevens with a decent lead , he blows out Guzman who won’t be available today.
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by Doggie Stalker on Aug 5, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Completely agree.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rosales
I enjoyed watching Reds 3B Rosales go crashing into the Cubs dugout railing in the 6th innning as he was going after a foul ball that landed about 15 rows back! That guy seems a little off-center.
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by NashvilleBlue on Aug 5, 2009 8:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He runs kinda funny
but seems to play hard
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by tony412 on Aug 5, 2009 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Sabo-ish.
''This should be the most important thing you've got going on, right? You physically and mentally prepare yourself to play every day, and if you're not physically or mentally ready to play every day as an every-day player, then you're letting the other guys down."
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by Fishbone2 on Aug 5, 2009 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aaron Rowand crazy. That guys is going to kill himself.
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by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 5, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of 3B
How come Rolen hasn’t played in the last two games? He is hitting .323 and Rosales is hitting something like .213. Just seems weird that the Reds wouldn’t go with their best hitting lineup.
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by CubFanSince1970 on Aug 5, 2009 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marquis beaned him in the head the last game of the Rox series...
must not be right yet.
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by Fishbone2 on Aug 5, 2009 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate doing this to you, Fish, but . . . pet peeve alert!
“Beaned in the head” is actually redundant. The head is the “bean”; you can’t get beaned anywhere else.
At least you didn’t say “beemed” or “beamed” . . . .
:)
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 5, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like he might be out for a few more games.
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by Al on Aug 5, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess Marquis was pretty upset about it
Might be in the article (can’t open it here . . . ) but it was mentioned during Monday’s broadcast that he slammed his glove down and was really upset about hitting his old teammate, and Rolen motioned to him that he was ok.
At any rate, I hope he’s better, but off against the Cubs is ok.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 5, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saw it BBTN
Marquis was really upset about it. Rolen tipped his cap as he walked off to let him know he was okay.
by Allie on Aug 5, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew that... my fingers are working faster than my "bean" this morning.
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by Fishbone2 on Aug 5, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's all good
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 5, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer my beans baked, thank you very much
I prefer my beans baked, thank you very much
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by eths on Aug 5, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm, you may be right
but in baseball we say beaned as the act of getting hit, not that he was hit in the head. At least thats how I always used the word beaned in relation to baseball growing up.
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by tony412 on Aug 5, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but if you think about it, it makes sense.
Plus, here’s a link for you:
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 5, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Beam" used to be popular slang
for check out with great interest.
As in: “Dude, that chick over there is beamin’ you hard.”
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by Goodie1969 on Aug 5, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rolen walks too much for Dusty Baker's taste.
You just can’t have him out there clogging the bases every night!
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by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, Rolen is in Dusty's lab being reprogrammed to
Corey the hell out of the ball?
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't realize how deceptive Gorzo was.
He’s a pretty big guy, hides the ball well and his wind up is really fast. Hats off. Great start!
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by Fishbone2 on Aug 5, 2009 8:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great game for Gorzo, but...
But not since Hank Borowy, acquired from the Yankees on July 27, 1945, threw a 3-2 complete game victory over — ironically — the Cincinnati Reds two days later, has a Cubs pitching acquisition debuted with such a splash as Tom Gorzelanny did last night in Cincinnati.
Uh, you have heard of Don Cardwell, right?
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by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 8:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Uh, already covered in thread above
Boy oh boy oh boy
by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 5, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, didn't see that in there.
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by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right.
Like I said, Cardwell’s no-hitter was the best debut after a trade than anyone.
But the ‘60 Cubs were not a contending team. That’s the difference. Last night’s game meant more than the no-hitter.
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by Al on Aug 5, 2009 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gorzelanny should pull up a seat next to Ted Lilly every night the rest of the season
They have similar stuff IMO, and Ted has mastered being a flyball pitcher at Wrigley Field, we all know of Teds great teaching ability (its Ted), and I think Gorzelanny could really benefit from the whole thing.
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by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 8:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
No man is an island. And no man can be Ted. But Gorzo could be Ted’s apprentice – he certainly looked Lilly-esque last night.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I listened to last night's game this morning in central Europe , and ...
… I just hope that Gorzelanny is not just a flash in the pan. It sounded like he had the speed, the control, the mechanics and the intelligence to be a real sensation. It looks like Hendry may have made a very smart and/or very lucky trade.
by eths on Aug 5, 2009 8:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gorz
has had some success in the past so it’s not totally out of nowhere….it’s just a matter of being healthy and putting everything together, for one night he did, let’s hope he can do it again, and again.
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by tony412 on Aug 5, 2009 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The new guy
I like him. This could be a steal.
As far as the closer goes, everytime I observe Gregg seems to be okay he blows a save or two.
I actually think how bad Gregg is has been greatly exaggerated.
But if we changed I wouldn’t mind kicking around Sean Marshall.
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by cubstoseriesby100 on Aug 5, 2009 8:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was listening to a podcast today
and heard an interesting stat. All 5 of Gregg’s blown saves have been on the road. He’s been perfect at Wrigley.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 5, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Further Gregg home/road splits.
Hitters are hitting .213 vs. him at Wrigley, and he has a 2.92 ERA there.
On the road hitters are hitting .260 and he has a 5.40 ERA on the road.
3 HR allowed at Wrigley, 7 on the road.
The innings pitched and batters faced are nearly identical home and road, so the sample sizes are the same.
Inexplicable.
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by Al on Aug 5, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is freakish.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the fear of the walkoff is too much for him. At home the team has an opportunity to cover
for his screwup.
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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 5, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sort of the inverse of Harden this season
until his last couple starts…
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 5, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's not promising, considering our schedule.
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by buckmulligan on Aug 5, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just outta curiousity - which podcast was it?
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was an interview from the Score
with Todd Hollandsworh on Mully and Hanley
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 5, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, OK - thanks.
I’m always on the lookout for decent baseball podcasts.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, that's a good idea for a Fan Post.
When I get some time, I’ll post a discussion of the best available baseball podcasts. (Or if someone else has time now, be my guest).
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 5, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better yet, when you find a great Cubs podcast link it as a
fanshot.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I've thought about doing that, too.
It would be a good topic – especially considering how podcasts seem to come and go.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did, however, blow a big lead in a non-save situation at home vs. Houston
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 5, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And then made the excuse that it wasn't a save situation
I think people have been rough on Gregg in the sense that he is performing basically at the level you’d expect him to be.
However, I have started to notice a pattern where he makes comments that can be construed as excuses when he doesn’t do well.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 5, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good solid win.
Lets get that sweep today. I don’t expect Gorzo to throw this well every start, however if he can get the Cubs into the 7th with 3 runs or less I think we will take it.
A big “IF”, getting anything consistent from Soriano and Bradley this team could really finish strong and stay on this pace.
I know we all scoreboard watch, however the Cubs need to take care ot themselves. We can see getting help from others can be aggravating. Mets have Johan going and they still can’t get a win. Just keep winning Cubs.
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by Grockcubs on Aug 5, 2009 8:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If Gorzelanny keeps being successful until Ted returns
I would think the cubs would put him in the bullpen right? We all know Lou and Jim love lefties, and he has to be more capable of getting outs than some people.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 8:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This would definitely be a good problem to have!
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 5, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 lefties in the bullpen!?
That’s unpossible!
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by Trey2317 on Aug 5, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bring up BJ Ryan
and all the sudden we have 4 lefties, plus Marmol, Guzman, Gregg. Lou’s dream come true
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy moley.
To go from 1 LHP to 4 in 2-3 weeks – Lou’s head may explode.
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by Trey2317 on Aug 5, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something tells me he would just ask for more right handed pitching then
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or more lefthanded hitters.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 5, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We could always use more left handed hitters
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Until the Cubs see the Phillies next week.
Then the mantra will be “we need to get more right-handed.”
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by Trey2317 on Aug 5, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can any of them swing a bat? :-)
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
by LAcarl519 on Aug 5, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Lou has
left hand envy
"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg
by gwood on Aug 5, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harden
I still like the idea of Harden as a closer. He has that combo of great fastball & straight change that makes a dominating closer (see Hoffman).
"It's a funny old world. Man's lucky if he gets out of it alive." W.C. Fields
by KedzieKid on Aug 5, 2009 9:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
has the fact that Harden isn't always Mr. Control out there crossed anyones mind
when we think of moving him to closer?
I maintain that Kevin Gregg will be fine, Lou needs to use Marmol no more than 3 times a week. Marshall, Guzman, and Grabow can all handle the eighth if needed. The bullpen is going through a “thing” right now, but I think it comes out okay.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's Kerry Wood's fault
Ever since he sloughed off injury and control issues and became an effective 9th inning guy, I believe Harden can do the same.
by CaliCub on Aug 5, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harden is still too valuable as a starter to put in the closer's role.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And IIRC,
it has been discussed that Harden would be too suseptible to injury being used more often than every 5 days.
You’re killin’ me Smalls!
by dtc0405 on Aug 5, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only every other day when someone suggests we make Harden a closer
Remember everyone, this is the guy that we give extra days of rest to in order to preserve his arm?
by madcow256 on Aug 5, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not advocating
Harden for closer because I agree with Daver that Harden is still too valuable as a starter, but the injury argument is the same one everyone made when considering Wood as closer. Wood overcame that concern admirably IMO
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by gwood on Aug 5, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And in any case
It won’t happen this late in the season. Seems this comes up every few days. Not sure why.
by rlpete on Aug 5, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Harden's been a victim of the long ball every bit as much as Kevin Gregg.
I agree – don’t panic. Stick with Gregg.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I forgot about that
Even more reason why I’m against it.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The return of Miles..
I hadn’t given up on the guy before he went on the DL – I am not so certain it will be a bad thing. I realize I’m in the minority, but he’s another one of those guys whose numbers so far this year are way, way below what he’s done the rest of his career. To me, this points to a high likelihood that he’s got more to offer than what we’ve seen so far.
by DisCUBbobulated on Aug 5, 2009 9:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Take a deep breath
go outside for a moment, when you come back you will realize that Miles had a .566 OPS in significant playing time at AAA, at AAA. He isn’t a major league baseball player anymore. He is a way worse fielder and equal hitter to Andres Blanco.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
Miles is a worse hitter than Blanco (at least this year). Blanco has posted a .600+ OPS so far this year.
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by gwood on Aug 5, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How freaking pathetic is it that somebody with a OPS barely over .600
is the better hitter in a comparison.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
very pathetic
although, I think it was SWL that pointed out the other day that when Miles went down he had accumulated a .500 OPS, so he is improving.
"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg
by gwood on Aug 5, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AAA numbers
In 21 games, .253/.267/.566, .299 SLG, 14 SO, 8 RBI, 0HR
You’re killin’ me Smalls!
by dtc0405 on Aug 5, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe someone said yesterday that he has made 5 errors in those 21 games as well.
You’re killin’ me Smalls!
by dtc0405 on Aug 5, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dr. Strangeglove
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is this man still on this team? What can he possibly do to help
the Cubs down the stretch? Please, someone convince me why he is in a major league uniform. I would think that Hendy would release him just to get rid of the reminder of how bad a signing this guy was. Simply amazing.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 5, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My best guess...
…is that, right or wrong, Hendry wants to give Miles a few weeks to redeem himself. If he’s still playing horribly (which is likely), he gets buried on the depth chart in September when rosters expand, left off the playoff roster, and released in the offseason. This isn’t really about Miles being the best available option on the roster, it’s about Cubs management making sure he’s finished before they cut him loose… I don’t particularly like it, but I understand it.
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by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a news flash for Cubs Management - He's done.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 5, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, this makes a lot of sense.
I just hope he doesn’t hurt the team too much in the next four weeks.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 5, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Out of curiousity...
While Blanco “injury” seems highly dubious to me, is it possible that it’s actually real and that, because they knew he would need to go to the DL, it allowed them the opportunity to try out Miles for a bit? In other words, let’s assume for argument’s sake that Blanco really was hurt. They decide to use it as an opportunity to give Miles that last chance that they otherwise wouldn’t give him?
In which case, once Blanco is healthy again—and assuming that Miles still sucks—we cut ties in some manner…
Is that possible? I’m just trying to think of reasons for why they would’ve brought Miles up. I find it hard to believe that Hendry thinks that Miles is going to contribute more than Blanco…
by CubsWin!Oregon on Aug 5, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they brought Miles up
because you’re not allowed to leave a major league player to rot in AAA after he’s out of options.
Now, your scenario may be what they’re hoping happens, but I expect Miles to be on the roster till the end of baseball in 2009, however long that goes.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miles could only be on rehab assignment for 20 days.
After that, he had to be recalled or DFA’d or released.
I would have voted for “released”, but my vote doesn’t count.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 5, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It makes sense
But a division race isn’t time to give a nice guy one last chance.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
redeem himself? Were in a divsional race, we need the best players possible..
…and we essentialy just gave up our best defensive IF for a guy who is done with the game!!!
by JB 23 on Aug 5, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just another in what has been a long line of poor roster decisions by
Jim and Lou
by WanderingWanderer on Aug 5, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poor roster decisions
that have lead to us competing for our 3rd straight division title…not to say they have not made mistakes (who doesn’t) but they must be making a few correct calls
"Cub fans like to think of things in catastrophic terms." - Crane Kenney
by NashvilleBlue on Aug 5, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the only role I see for Aaron Miles
is to place the ball on the hitting tee for Milton Bradley in batting practice in the cage and if there is no hitting tee—he can be the hitting tee, by standing up and putting the ball on his head (hoping Milton is hitting the ball square that day).
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
by LAcarl519 on Aug 5, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I about wet myself..
Laughing at those last two comments. Nice…I’ll make sure I footnote them when I use em.
by TeddyThunder on Aug 5, 2009 10:51 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
You're a brave man to take this stance...
…and I guess we don’t have any choice but to see if Miles can give this team something, anything this season. Bottom line for me remains that Aaron Miles’ has little to nothing to offer the Cubs right now. I think Baker offers more vs. LHP at the plate and Blanco is far, far better in the field (though, apparently, injured at the moment).
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather see Kosuke Fukudome play shortstop than have Aaron Miles there.
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by Al on Aug 5, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That bad?
Perhaps Soriano can be the backup SS until Blanco gets back. I know he would love that chance.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dome started as shortstop, then 3rd baseman as a Dragon
and he made very critical, game and season deciding awful errors in 1999 Japan Series against Sadaharu Oh and Fukuoka Daiei Hawks, and that disappointed all Dragons fans…
The conversion to outfield worked just great for Dome.
by dragonsfanatic on Aug 5, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet he could play SS in an emergency.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 5, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Having to play Miles at shortstop is clearly an emergency.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 5, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's a disaster.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
by buckmulligan on Aug 5, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or when Lou decides to pull off another one of his patented...
…late game positional switcheroos.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't remind me of that. That was like clowns playing baseball.
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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 5, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's just hope Sean Marshall doesn't wind up at SS one day.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 5, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we may need him at first if Theriot's arm continues to hurt.
Isn’t Marshall taller than DLee?
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
by LAcarl519 on Aug 5, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes by 2 inches. He is six foot seven
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 5, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would make headlines on Chunichi Sports Newspaper...
by dragonsfanatic on Aug 5, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Out of curiosity
and I may have asked you this before, how much coverage does a former Japanese league player like Soriano get in Japan. I realize he played there a long time ago, just wondering if he is still news back in Japan.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes back in talk
Because Sori was not a big star player when he was with Hiroshima Carp, his Japanese career is referred only sometimes when people are talking about Dome (and Hideki Matsui when Sori was at Yankees) in TV and radio commentary. I don’t think many fans know he was in Japan other than serious baseball maniac. He sometimes jumping in Dome interview by Japanese media as he’s talking some funny Japanese (I guess he forgot most of the language…)
Derrek Lee is also referred as the son of Leon, a 10-year star player in NPB, and Derrek was a hyper kid running around in Kawasaki Stadium in early 80’s.
by dragonsfanatic on Aug 5, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cool, thanks
Derrek sounds like what Ken Griffey Jr. was here in the US.
I’ll bet if Bobby Valentine ever manages in the US again he will be watched closely by Japan.
Also typical Soriano forgetting Japanese but trying to speak it anyway, he really is a character.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bobby Valentine
He officially announced he won’t renew his contract with Chiba Lotte Marines so he will leave Japan right after this season.
His unmotivated Marines are having awful season (37-52-3) even they added former a Whitesox Tadahito Iguchi this year.
by dragonsfanatic on Aug 5, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have tied games over there?
I did not know that.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 5, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
J-league games don't go past 10 innings
I’m not sure where that rule came from, but it’s been around for quite some time.
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by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, it's 12 innings.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 5, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They must have changed that recently, then
When I was in Japan a few years back it was still 10.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
recent history of tied game rule in CL
1974-1982: no extra inning beyond 3 hours
1983-1987: no extra inning beyond 3 hours and 20 minutes
1988-1989: no extra inning beyond 12 innings (no time limit)
1990-2000: no extra inning beyond 15 innings plus make up game if tied
2001-current: no extra inning beyond 12 innings, no make up game
by dragonsfanatic on Aug 5, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I certainly can't argue with that!
I don’t know why I was remembering the limit being 10 innings, especially since the current rule was in place when I was there in 2001.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True...
…but how many Americans baseball fans know what “NPB” means?
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by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not sure
but I sometimes find NPB or Japanese Legue or something else in US media when they talk about Japanese player’s career….
by dragonsfanatic on Aug 5, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I usually see something like:
“Chunichi Dragons of the Japanese Central League” or “Nippon Ham Fighters of Japan’s Pacific League”
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by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mexico's Summer and Winter Leagues also have ties
FWIW.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 5, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Fontenot may be the second-best SS on the roster right now.
Ick.
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by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't Lou try Fontenot at SS in 2007
and pull the plug in like the third inning?
Its possible that just happened in my head, but I thought I remember it.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that was kind of a disaster.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 5, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More like a pending disaster
since Lou pulled the plug very early, before much damage could be done.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 5, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe - I'm pretty sure Fontenot played SS in at least one spring training game this year.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 starts there in '07, 1 inning there in '08
It wasn’t pretty but it’s probably better than Miles could do right now…
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by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.. it's kind of like sticking up for that kid everyone picks on in Junior High...
It’s cool. I’ve held a consistent opinion all year that slumps for people like Lee, Soriano, and Bradley would ease as, given time, they would likely return to their career averages. I included Freel and Miles in this as well when I brought it up, so it would really be dishonest for my to not stick by Miles now.
by DisCUBbobulated on Aug 5, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he has little upside.
at best he can hit a few dying quails and play suspect defense. he’s not fast. he’s pretty useless.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
by buckmulligan on Aug 5, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs winning, Dragons winning
Good day…
Cubs is now tied with Cards at 1st place, and my Dragons is coming back all the way from far away and now only 1-game behind archrival Tokyo Giants… (Dragons is 13-4 in June and 17-7 in July, now 15 games above .500). Now we are ready to grab 1st place!
by dragonsfanatic on Aug 5, 2009 9:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Congrats to the Dragons!
May they and the Cubs both win championships this year.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 5, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, let's hope both teams stay hot.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can have the table
but not the restaurant until he gets the Cubs into the playoffs.
If he helps them win the WS, then he can have the entire franchise.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 5, 2009 9:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
like Da Coach
Da Gorz
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by tony412 on Aug 5, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
now
THAT is a good nickname.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've said it before, and I'll say it again
as often as Dusty gets flack for his misuse of starting pitchers, Lou’s use of the bullpen this season has been equally atrocious.
by WanderingWanderer on Aug 5, 2009 9:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A would rate Lou's bullpen management this year as...
a notch above horrific.
You’re killin’ me Smalls!
by dtc0405 on Aug 5, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not even close
Abusing SP’s will cost a team big time. RP’s are more interchangeable than SP’s. Even though their value is relatively high, it’s not nearly as high as SP’s.
I’ve never heard “relief pitching win’s world series”.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 5, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have heard of
relief pitching loses world series. Which means you do need a good bullpen
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pujols with bags loaded
Al,
Are you advocating intentionally walking him with the bases loaded? I’m not saying it’s a bad idea, but it is a novel one, and has only been done a few times in MLB history. I think it happened once to Ted Williams, but does anyone remember who else? I feel like it happened sometime in the last decade or two. It’s a pretty gutsy move.
"They found a delivery in my flaw." - Dan Quisenberry
by danimal15 on Aug 5, 2009 9:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It would depend on the situation.
If you’re ahead by a couple of runs and he comes up with the bases loaded, I’d seriously consider it.
Barry Bonds was the other guy.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 5, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So far this season he's had 2.4 RBI per bases loaded appearance
Walking him would obviously only lead to 1 RBI . . . the question then becomes, does the next hitter average 1.4 RBI in his AB?
by madcow256 on Aug 5, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah hard to do that now
when you still have to face Holliday and Ludwick
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by tony412 on Aug 5, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Maddon walked Josh Hamilton
last year with the bases loaded.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 5, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"The" other?
Al, I’m disappointed! I didn’t realize Nap Lajolie was, but how could you forget Swish?
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 5, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had forgotten that.
You’re right.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 5, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get the emotive rationale for that...
But has anyone looked at the statistical basis for walking him there? His performance so far notwithstanding (and really, it seems almost impossible that he’d continute to hit at that rate), don’t long term statistical trends suggest it’s more likely he’ll make an out without an RBI?
by CubsWin!Oregon on Aug 5, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Josh Hamilton got the IBB last season with the bases loaded
Its a smart move, unless Holliday beats you. Still you have to make Holliday beat you not Pujols.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barry Bonds, at least once
And the one I’m thinking of was actually in his pre-steroids days.
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by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
in his steroid days
I don’t know that I would ever pitch to Bonds.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's true.
The game was on May 28, 1998. The Diamondbacks were leading 8-6, bases loaded, last of the 9th. Bonds was intentionally walked to make it 8-7.
Brent Mayne, the next hitter, lined to right field to end the game.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 5, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't Brenly managing the Snakes then? He looked like a genuis after that move.
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by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 5, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, that was Buck Showalter.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 5, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope - it was still Buck Showalter
And if the Giants had their “normal” lineup that day (Bonds hitting 3rd, Kent hitting cleanup) it might not have worked out very well – in fact they probably wouldn’t have tried it at all.
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by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Williams
Guess I was wrong about Williams being one of them. Thanks for reminding me about the Bonds walk. I knew it had been done relatively recently.
Hard to advocate doing it to Pujols if Holliday or Ludwick is up next.
"They found a delivery in my flaw." - Dan Quisenberry
by danimal15 on Aug 5, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looking at Da Gorz's mechanics on mlb.tv...
The difference in his and marmol’s follow through is like night and day. Gorz has incredible balance on the mound and he looks immovable. Reminds me almost exactly of maddux (I know someone else made the same comparison) and how maddux was able to recover after the pitch and be ready to field anything that came his way.
by cubsonWGN4ever on Aug 5, 2009 10:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Was BCB really slow for anyone else this morning?
Anyway, remember the first fanshot about how the Cubs acquired Gorzy and Grabow, and me and Blou were really excited about Gorzy, and saying he has potential to be good, and everyone else was making fun of us, and telling us we were stupid idiots?
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 5, 2009 11:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's been acting a little funky with me for the last 10 to 20 minutes or so.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It seems better now.
It was actually down for a couple of minutes.
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by Al on Aug 5, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought you were just trying to make sure you got your point across
I thought you were just trying to make sure you got your point across
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 5, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His were to different posts.
Not the KOW duplicate the heading in the body error.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know. I'm just tweaking one of my other selves.
I know. I’m just tweaking one of my other selves.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 5, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, so you're using Twikker now?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Aug 5, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did I double post
Did I double post somewhere?
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It looks like that.
On my computer, it appears you double-posted a comment titled “Well, now that look at”.
I was having trouble posting comments earlier today as well. I’d hit “post,” and it said the comment couldn’t post. The preview was also down.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's been happening
on and off all year.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think there's an echo in the thread today!
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 5, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: DLee - "any of you who were hollering for him to be dropped in the lineup, benched or DFA'd were obviously dead wrong."
I take small issue with lumping in those that wanted to drop him in the lineup or bench him with the DFA crowd
Obviously DFAing Lee would have been dead wrong. Morbidly, ashes to ashes, six feet under, on the road to Valhalla and Elysium dead wrong. But given the extended slump Derrek was in at the time, would dropping him in the lineup or even sitting him down for a few games been that horribly wrong?
Or are you of the notion that the only way he was going to be able to turn things around was to trudge out there every single day and play through it until things start clicking again.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Aug 5, 2009 11:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As I recall, there were three camps -
DFA
Bench him and start Hoffpaiuir
Move him out of the #3 spot
I don’t recall any sentiment to leave him at #3. I thought he had to play every day, but thought his slump was crushing the team in the 3 spot.
The biggest problem were people still calling for all of those things 30+ days after he turned it around.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think there were a few of us...
Who prefered for him to stay in the #3 position b/c it’s statistically the least significant slot in the top 6….(which is counter-intuitive, I realize). And also because there is really little importance to batting order, all things considered anyway.
But I’m mostly picking nits at that point…
by CubsWin!Oregon on Aug 5, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which was, of course, exactly what happened.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 5, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just because something ended up well doesn't mean the route to get there was the best one or the only one.
I’m guessing there were more than a few games earlier in the season where Lee didn’t do so well at the plate at very critical moments. I can’t say he specifically cost ‘X’ number of games because I don’t think you can measure such things. But I don’t think it’s beyond reason to suggest that sitting him out a few days or dropping him in the order might have relaxed him and/or cleared his head enough to enable him to become productive again that much sooner.
That approach seemed to work with Soriano – and is anyone here going to argue that it shouldn’t have happened earlier?
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by ballhawk on Aug 5, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gorz did a great
job last night. Hope he can keep up the good work. Nice to see Dome get a leadoff homerun. I never gave up on him.
What are the odds that just because he’s available tonight Lou will start Miles?
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Aug 5, 2009 11:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't even THINK that!
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 5, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is Lou's tendancy with guys who were everyday or platoon players.
Further, whatever ding Theriot experienced last night will increase the odds of a Miles sighting.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll wager a good amount he'll start tonight
Miles was used far too often before he got hurt.
by WanderingWanderer on Aug 5, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lou has been trying to give Riot a day off
but other people keep getting hurt. It wouldn’t surprise me if he sits Riot tonight and plays Miles at short.
The good thing is Harden is a strikeout pitcher and doesn’t use his defense as much.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 5, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very, very high
Fukudome, Theriot (hoping his forearm is doing good), Lee, Ramirez, Bradley, Soriano, Miles, Hill, Z.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 5, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least Fontenot and Baker are capable of running into
a solid extra base hit every once in a while. Miles up with Soriano and Bradley on base would be rally suicide by Lou.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOOOOOOO!
Please, no…………
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Aug 5, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can Miles close? ;)
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by bobby h on Aug 5, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the doors on his way out?
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by KaliCub on Aug 5, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
after we drop 30 on the Reds… Miles can get a save by pitching the last 3 innings
by Allie on Aug 5, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deceptively low release point...
…tricky pitches
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by bobby h on Aug 5, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the book on his ML career?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 5, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Career Pitching Stats in 3.0 IP
6.00 ERA, 1.00 WHIP, 1 HR, 0 BB, 0 SO, 1 HBP, .375 BAA
You’re killin’ me Smalls!
by dtc0405 on Aug 5, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, i had no idea he'd ever actually pitched...
…and oddly, that’s a step up from his batting line.
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by bobby h on Aug 5, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe that's what Hendry was looking at when he signed him.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not a LHP, though.
So we can’t use him there, either.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 5, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In that case...
…can we just make him the never-used 7th man in the Bullpen then?
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by bobby h on Aug 5, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That position is already filled.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2-0 Mets in the first
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 5, 2009 11:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mets lead 2-0 in the second, and have second and third with one out.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 11:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nelson Figueroa ... TRIPLES?!?
Mets 4, Cardinals 0
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The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 11:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry I'm sure they will find some way to screw it up
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They really did last night.
But they just extended the lead to 5-0.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
specially if they're already into the bullpen
what happened to Niese?
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by tony412 on Aug 5, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leg injury.
I was going to say what they are saying at MLB.Com, but the website is not giving me anything right now.
Gameday also crashed.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"John Niese collapsed in the second with a leg injury."
Would be nice if MLB.Com started working again … I’d know more, for instance.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another injury,
Mets just really can’t catch a break can they.
You’re killin’ me Smalls!
by dtc0405 on Aug 5, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can send Heilman back to them
Along with a deep dish pizza, a Mr. Beef sammich and a case of Goose Island.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 5, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if I want to give up the Goose Island.
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by Trey2317 on Aug 5, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have to sweeten it somehow
Pizza and Italian beef can’t possibly be enough.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 5, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We could send The Region.
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by Trey2317 on Aug 5, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'll love New York.
No, no, The Region can stay – it just has to act like it’s part of Indiana from now on.
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by Trey2317 on Aug 5, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Act like you want us as part of the state
and we might.
by Allie on Aug 5, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the Region. Lots of friendly people up there
And the Dunes are great.
I think the Region gets a bad rap down here, personally, but hearing things like “I’m from the suburbs of Chicago.” “Oh, really, what suburb?” “Umm, Valparaiso.” doesn’t help.
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by Trey2317 on Aug 5, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most of feel closer to Chicago than
anything else. We get all the benefits without the taxes, usually.
We only get Chicago stations. I can’t even FIND a current Indy Star anywhere.
And the only time we’re claimed by IN is when someoen is running for office.
by Allie on Aug 5, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
Hell, we’re even in a different time zone than the rest of Indiana.
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by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can understand that.
Sometimes, given the choice between Chicago and Indy, I’d take Chicago, too.
From my perspective, I know it seems silly when someone from Indiana tries to claim Chicago as their own, but I get what you’re saying.
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by Trey2317 on Aug 5, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I usually just say
“I’m from the LAND part of Chicagoland”
by Allie on Aug 5, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As opposed to the water part, which would be Lake Michigan, I guess. :-P
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by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As in I'm blub blub blup part blub Chicablub
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Aug 5, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's an excellent explanation.
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by Trey2317 on Aug 5, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounded like he pulled something when stretching for a throw at 1st.
Then when he went to throw a warmup pitch, he fell on the mound.
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by Trey2317 on Aug 5, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Much as I hate the Mets, I almost feel sorry for them.
Almost.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Few things...
-Didn’t like Kruk’s (his suit was worse than his idea) idea at all of moving Dempster to closer. Right now the starting rotation is the strength of this team, why weaken an area to try to improve elsewhere?
-Why not put Marshall in the 8th and let him finish the game last night? There was a 6 run lead when he came in.
-Pujols is a machine, when he knows he is going to get good pitches to hit, it is unfair.
Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air...
by slocs55 on Aug 5, 2009 12:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree with you about Marshall.
I was a little confused when Lou played “Musical Bullpen” yet again.
He didn’t need to waste Guzman last night.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or, let Stevens throw the 9th.
Isn’t that why we have a 12-man pitching staff? So one of them can throw with a 5-run lead in the 9th?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 5, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL @ "Musical Bullpen"
the perfect description!
by CaliCub on Aug 5, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mets have
bases loaded, two outs.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 12:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Cardinals just yanked Kyle Lohse after he walked the bases loaded.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 12:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and Pagan
hits a dribbler back to the mound. Three outs.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 12:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Angel Pagan.....
He only got on base twice because Ankiel dropped what would have been a sac fly.
His other base hit was a single.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's channeling his Cubness.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 5, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some things never change.
You can take the player out of the Cubs, but you can’t take the Cubness out of the player.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with that theory is Pagan
is a product of the Mets farm system.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 5, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Figeuroa
hits Ludwick with a pitch.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 12:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yadier Molina hits into a double play.
Going to bottom 4 in New York, the Mets lead St. Louis 5-0.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 12:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cardinals
going through another pitching change. Both sides are blowing their bullpen. It’s the bottom of the 4th, and the Cards are on their third, Mets on their second.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 12:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cards threatening
with runners on 2nd, 3rd with 2 outs.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 12:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and Pujols
to the plate.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the unintentional intentional walk is next
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
by LAcarl519 on Aug 5, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They did.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 5, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the plunk is more efficient
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
by LAcarl519 on Aug 5, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pujols
HBP! LOL!
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 12:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bases loaded
Holliday to the plate
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 12:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
♪ ♫ Holliday! Is gonna K! ♪ ♫
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well done
young padawan.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH YEAH! I CALLED IT! I CALLED IT!
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess he couldn't hit .650 forever.
Change is inevitable; progress is optional.
by Devin B on Aug 5, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, if he hit a HR you would Blou and vanish for day?
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
Either that or I’d tell someone to pound sand. It’s a toss up, really.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF?
I just got an email inviting me to join the AARP! I’m 38!!!!!
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 12:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I get mailers from them all the time.
And I’m 27.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 5, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
38 going on 72 :)
''This should be the most important thing you've got going on, right? You physically and mentally prepare yourself to play every day, and if you're not physically or mentally ready to play every day as an every-day player, then you're letting the other guys down."
''That's how it works in every aspect of life. It's no different than construction work or anything else. That's how you should be as a person.'' - Koyie Hill 8-3-09
by Fishbone2 on Aug 5, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Their numbers are dwindling...
so they must have lowered the qualifying age a bit.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 5, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not true
the cohort at 45-50 entering is much larger than the rate at which people are “dropping out”
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
by LAcarl519 on Aug 5, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And God help us...
because of it. I’m so very excited to be financing all of their retirement benefits….
by CubsWin!Oregon on Aug 5, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I joined...but I am 52
(feel like I am 72 on many mornings)
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
by LAcarl519 on Aug 5, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should go ahead and join...
Discounted movie tickets and all-you-can-eat buffet at Sizzler if you get there before 5.
by hokie316 on Aug 5, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They must have gotten 38 confused with some other age.
Possibly 83?
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they read your posts and assumed you were some old fogey. :)
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
by KaliCub on Aug 5, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hah
Get offa my lawn!
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it's for the Aaron Association of Rotten Players
Aaron Miles, Founder and CEO…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Aug 5, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and that is why you walk Albert Pujols
at all times
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 12:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Holliday
Ks. Three outs, 3 LOB again.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 12:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
like a Macy's Day blimp, he will come back to earth
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
by LAcarl519 on Aug 5, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is
the stupidest thing I have ever seen somebody do.
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2009/8/5/978424/vote-message-on-2008-cubs-page
by CalCalender on Aug 5, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 5, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why
on earth would anyone waste 65 dollars to write snarky comments on a team from a year ago that was better than the team you root for?
by CalCalender on Aug 5, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because you think it will help you score with the chicks
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 5, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
unfortunately, the only chicks he scores with are the small fury ones that
crap all over the place
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
by LAcarl519 on Aug 5, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Puerto Rico and Guam, haha! Well done, swl
Boy oh boy oh boy
by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 5, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being an idiot may play a significant role in the decision.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a Cardinals fan.
That should explain it all.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finally - I can put a name with the face... ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Aug 5, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I just spent $65 and I still had murney left over to buy these signs!"
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 5, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
took me a second
but I see what you did there, very nice
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No photoshop necessary.
Google image search of “get a brain morans” brings this up in many places.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
look in the back
you will see an old friend who may or may not have the same name as our beloved right fielder
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no no
look more carefully.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
too subtle for me. The original photo has the guy in a dark shirt there too, missed that
by him being a moran, CUBS WIN!
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a classic.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I finally saw it, it took me forever.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
by KaliCub on Aug 5, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think his "plan" goes something like:
1. Annoy Cubs fans
2. ???
3. PROFIT!
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
you knows whats great about Cardinal fans
They try and pretend like they are really proud of all their championships and history, while mocking the Cubs for never winning, yet when it comes down to it they care more about us than they do about their own success.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They really are the greatest fans in baseball
You’re killin’ me Smalls!
by dtc0405 on Aug 5, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He spent $65 just to amuse himself and sort of mildly annoy a few Cubs fans?
I can think of worse ways to spend that money… but not many.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't.
It goes to show just how “great” the Cardinals fans are.
Forget the fact that:
(A), we finished way ahead of them in the final standings,
(B), we clinched the division against them,
©, we scored the most runs and won the most games of anyone in the NL, or
(D), we made the playoffs while they didn’t.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the best fans in baseball don't care about the facts
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cardinals fans ...
Or Red Sox fans … sounds like both.
Like their team regardless of the facts other teams’ fans say, even if the facts are completely true.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked the comment a buddy
made to me around 2000 and 2001—the Red Sox are about as much a rival to the Yankess as a nail is to a hammer—26 titles to 1.
Obviously recent times have changed that a bit. But the point is stil the same.
by socalbob on Aug 5, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm,worse ways to spend money...
Giving Clutche $65 to buy a jersey from Tim.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
by KaliCub on Aug 5, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHA!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 5, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
at least Tim would get his money that way…
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually no
Really stupid would be to ask for positive comments about the birdies. Or is maybe a fan of the other kind of cardinal?
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Aug 5, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His Holiness La Russa?
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Aug 5, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Aug 5, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your comment probably works best:
“You paid money to do this?”
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish I could comment over there, but I think I'm less offended that the guy wants to
punk Cub fans and pretty steamed he is desecrating BR to do it.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wanted to suggest:
Pater noster, qui es in caelis, sanctificetur nomen tuum. Adveniat regnum tuum. Fiat voluntas tua, sicut in caelo et in terra. Panem nostrum quotidianum da nobis hodie, et dimitte nobis debita nostra sicut et nos dimittimus debitoribus nostris. Et ne nos inducas in tentationem, sed libera nos a malo.
But they did not want me: Your Viva El Birdos membership will be fully active in 2 days, on Aug 7, 2009 8:23 PM CEST. Until then, you won’t be able to post comments, FanPosts, or FanShots.
sniffle sniffle sniffle whine sniffle sniffle
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Aug 5, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dare I ask what that means?
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the Our Father
You’re killin’ me Smalls!
by dtc0405 on Aug 5, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Completely in Latin.
You, eths, are the true foreign language master on this site!
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oldhay onay ustjay a ottncay ickenpay econdsay heretay istermay!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 5, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pig-Latin
Very nice!
How long is one of those seconds?
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got two languages German and Latin apart from a smattering of American & English
I grew up on the north side and have been in Germany since 1977.
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Aug 5, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Y yo que guey? Que ojete de tu parte.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 5, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yo hablo espanol tambien,
Pero no hablo Latin.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry about that.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know I was joking, right?
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 5, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had to go to work ... didn't have time to translate it in my head.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope the irony is obvious... Other wise it is the Lord's Prayer in Latin
Our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Aug 5, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He seems to have forgotten the last part
“As we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.”
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice
of course St. Louis has probably never heard of latin
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't Pujols latin?
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
by KaliCub on Aug 5, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deliver us from weevils?
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Always choose the lesser of two weevils!
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Catholic Church ripped off "Our Ted's Prayer"! Heathens! (man, is THIS former altar boy goin' to hell...)
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2009/7/6/939219/our-teds-prayer
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
by Zeke on Aug 5, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice...
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Aug 5, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In nomine patri, et filii, et spiritus sancti.
Amen.
You’re killin’ me Smalls!
by dtc0405 on Aug 5, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
most of my latin is religious too
hahaha, but we should pray for our Cubbies in all languages
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by tony412 on Aug 5, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Benni selli alla hiss dominoes...
amen…
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
by Zeke on Aug 6, 2009 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mets do nothing
5-0, on to the 6th.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
concerns with Guzman?
He doesn’t seem nearly as sharp post-injury
4 HR allowed (most on pitches right down the middle) in 13+ innings post injury
2 HR allowed in 32+ innings before the injury.
His stuff still looks high caliber but his location has been way off as far as locating pitches within the strike zone. You really have to give Rothschild credit for the starting pitchers but at some point he’s got to earn some keep and come up with solutions on why Marmol and Guzman’s mechanics and location are regressing.
by BeltwayCubsFan on Aug 5, 2009 1:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Some of Guzman's problems could have to do with fatigue
He hasn’t thrown this much since 2006. He might need a couple days to rest the arm.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 5, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not a Rothschild fan
and will acknowledge he is respected. But I see too many issues with Cubs pitchers commanding the fastball and it doesn’t seem to get any better. Our guys are too wild with the fastball—Marmol, Guzman, Dempster, Z, Heilman, Harden, Marshall—all these guys struggle with consistent command.
Maybe he is over-coaching these guys or just failing to come up with solutions. Paralysis by Analysis perhaps?
I’m not sure, but i owuld liek to see our pitchers throw quality fastball strikes.
What do you see in Guzman’s mechanics—they look pretty flawless to me? His 2-seamer is getting away from him as he has fallen in love with his cutter—now resembling a mini-slider.
by socalbob on Aug 5, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Greene
just pinch hit for the Cards pitcher, which means they’re about to have their FOURTH pitcher of the day come out.
Greene struck out, too.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 1:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, they've got the day off tomorrow.
So if they wear out their bullpen today, they’ll have a day of rest before facing the PIRATES.
by mykalmorgan on Aug 5, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im not sure there is anything better than waking up at 9am to baseball/
especially when its the cardinals losing.
by AzCubfan24 on Aug 5, 2009 1:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A hearty "aloha" to you!
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, well it's 9 AM in Hawaii right now...
that’s what I thought you meant.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thompson in to pitch
for the cards, Figeueroa out for the Mets.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 1:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So apparently the reason Lohse struggled today
was that his cousin passed away from brain injuries today.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 1:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
forgot link
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 5, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
19 years old, just tragic
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
by KaliCub on Aug 5, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's really sad.
I just lost several family members for various reasons over the past few months … I feel sorry for him and his family.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that is sad.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Angel Pagan with a run scoring triple
6-0 Mets.
by mykalmorgan on Aug 5, 2009 1:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Alex Cora bloop single to score Pagan
7-0 Mets. C’mon, even their bullpen can’t blow it again, right? RIGHT?
by mykalmorgan on Aug 5, 2009 1:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
they're still
only two Pujols grand slams away from losing.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sheff doubles with 2 out.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 5, 2009 1:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wait...wut?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 5, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sheff lines one to the gap in left-center...
and pulls up lame at first…..he’s out for a Pinch Runner.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 5, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure just putting on a Mets uniform...
…causes an anvil to fall on your head at this point.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Mets are a pathetic disappointment...
hopefully the Cubs can sweep them when they come to town in a few weeks.
You’re killin’ me Smalls!
by dtc0405 on Aug 5, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, they've had just a ridiculous number of injuries.
But, uh, yeah – I could definitely go for that sweep. No mercy!
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is a drive to the wall a single?
There’s also somebody hurt.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jon Niese, now Gary Sheffield.
Both left today’s game due to injuries.
As if the Mets needed any help with players hurt.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they're so needy, they'll trade for Miles?
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually... it's a possibility.
Their ONLY middle infielders right now are Alex Cora and Angel Berroa.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm aware, he says with hope.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please let Jim Hendry be on the phone right now...
….Please let Jim Hendry be on the phone right now….Please let Jim Hendry be on the phone right now…Please let Jim Hendry be on the phone right now…Please let Jim Hendry be on the phone right now…
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can hear it now -
Jim – “Uh, hey Omar, we’ll trade you our really valuable bacup middle IF”
Omar – “Oh man Jim, how much do I have to give up for him?”
Jim – “We’d love that David Wright guy, but would settle for that one legged catcher you have down in rookie ball”
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Aug 5, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sadly, that one-legged catcher started the '09 season with two legs.
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by dat cubfan daver on Aug 5, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty soon...
…the only way the Mets will be able to field a team will be to sew together the healthy body parts of various injured players, a la Frankenstein’s monster.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought
they already TRADED for Gary Sheffield?
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would you have to ask for that?
I’d take a bag of used baseballs.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 5, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but remember, we're talking about OMAR MINAYA here.
The guy who, not that long ago, traded Ryan Church for Jeff Francouer. You might as well ask for something semi-valuable – he could actually be dumb enough to say yes.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's like selling used cars
You have to at least pretend like there’s value there…
I traded my last Aaron Miles for Beltran level, but since I like your look, I’m willing to give him to you for that there sack of peanut shells… This deal won’t last forever though…
"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens
by bobby h on Aug 5, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget to mention he's played the OF in the past...
“He’s a super utility man, excelling wherever you put him on the field.”
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Aug 5, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but wait there's more
he can pitch too!!
You’re killin’ me Smalls!
by dtc0405 on Aug 5, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and don't forget...
…he plays for a FIRST PLACE team, so he must be good!
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Aug 5, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can hope.
It would also upgrade the Cubs, no matter who they sent to us.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
singled
and then is replaced by a pinch runner. hmm.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
three outs
7-0 Mets. On to the 7th.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cards do nothing.
7-0 Mets, mid 7.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mets do nothing
etcetera etcetera
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 1:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I really don't care what either team does,
As long as the Mets and Cubs both win today.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fifth pitcher for the Cards
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 1:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pagan
racking up the RBIs. 2-run home run makes it 10-0.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 1:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oh, you're right.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy Cow..!
Sole possession of first place tonight…I hope.
by jdb-44 on Aug 5, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
half game in front .... maybe?
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 5, 2009 1:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So.
Are we rooting for Houston or San Fran?
Change is inevitable; progress is optional.
by Devin B on Aug 5, 2009 1:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
tough question .... probably houston
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 5, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alex Cora just struck out.
He’s the first Met to strike out today.
by mykalmorgan on Aug 5, 2009 1:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
End of the 8th
9-0 Mets.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 1:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I dunno about you,
but I thoroughly enjoy watching the Mets collpase. That’s one grudge (that happened well before I was born but told about it by my grandfather) that I don’t mind keeping.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Aug 5, 2009 1:55 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
GAME OVAH!
Cardinals lose! FIRST PLACE!
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 5, 2009 2:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
woohoo, hope we can say that tomorrow too.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
by KaliCub on Aug 5, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We will
One way or the other.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." ~Alvin Dark
by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Aug 5, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ALONE in 1st Place. We were already IN 1st Place.
Me likey…
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
by Zeke on Aug 5, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
big game tonight.
it would be really nice to pick up a victory before the colorado series. i also like that the backend of the cardinals’ rotation is coming back to earth.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
by buckmulligan on Aug 5, 2009 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So let’s win tonight and make it a full game up in first!
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 2:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Also,
I want to see me some Bill Murray tonight!
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 5, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes! Way to go Mets! Too bad you f'd royaly last night
Time to see if Aaron Miles clears waivers:)
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
by SackMan on Aug 5, 2009 3:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If he doesn't clear...
…I think 2/3 of this city is ready to pack his bags for him and deliver him to whatever team was dumb enough to claim him (and his salary).
"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens
by bobby h on Aug 5, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A tad OT, I know, but they ever announce a make-up date...
…for that rained-out Tuesday, June 16th game? :)
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Aug 5, 2009 3:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thursday, September 3 at 1:20.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 5, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet. Thanks, Al!
Wait a minute... who am I here?
by malicedoom on Aug 5, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a ticket in the Terrace Reserved Aisle 216, Row 10
if you are interested. I’m not able to go to the game (bummer for me) and was going to just get a refund. Let me know if you wanted to buy it instead, face value is $45.00. No fees, I stood in the Feb. cold to buy it the old fashioned way, at the ticket window.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 5, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That surprises me, I thought Shark would be optioned.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Aug 5, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So we're basically bringing up a useless player...
for a player that was never used. We break even?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 5, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, the 12th man in the Cub bullpen takes the Hippocratic Oath
If Piniella never lets you see the mound, you’re guaranteed to do no harm.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 5, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now, like I said before...
We can just make Miles the (never used) 12th pitcher, rather than pretending he’s a middle infielder.
That way he’ll never see the field…
"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens
by bobby h on Aug 5, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs