There Is, Apparently, Life After The Cubs: Cubs vs. Rockies Preview, Saturday 8/8, 7:10 CT
The Jason Marquis trade was controversial at the time it was made. Many here disliked Marquis for providing fifth-starter performance for more than fifth-starter money. There's something to that, but especially last year, Marquis did as he was asked. The deal wound up being a bad one, in my opinion, because it was made for salary reasons (in part, to afford Milton Bradley's deal) and the player acquired -- Luis Vizcaino -- turned out to be useless and was released.
Marquis, who somehow always pitched well in Coors Field, has prospered there, making the All-Star team and keeping his ERA under 4.00. He's even pitched well after the All-Star break, something he has never done before in his career. His sinker works in Denver; this is something other breaking-ball pitchers have gone to Coors with and failed.
It's time to pay back Marquis -- and the Rockies -- for this deal.
Speaking of deals, will the Cubs acquire anyone via a waiver deal this month? Jim Hendry says "maybe":
"It's hard to say," general manager Jim Hendry said of whether the Cubs will be able to add another player. "We're not in the upper echelons, but our record's good enough where we don't get first cracks at some guys. We'll see. If we find something that makes us better, we'll try."
Right now, I don't see anyone out there who would be available by waiver deal -- and who wouldn't cost a lot in terms of players or money -- who could really help the Cubs. I don't want John Smoltz -- I think he's done -- and with Ted Lilly due to return in 10 days or so, the Cubs are going to be OK for starting pitching even with Carlos Zambrano going on the disabled list, given the apparent revival of Tom Gorzelanny. Fortunately, Z's DL move is retroactive to August 2, so he will be eligible to return on the 17th, and Lilly should be back by then as well.
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Jason Marquis... well, what can you say. He was the guy many here loved to hate, but he's been rejuvenated as a Rockie. He handcuffed the Cubs on April 15 at Wrigley Field and has a 3.79 ERA in nine starts at Coors Field this year. However, several Cubs used to light him up as a Cardinal -- maybe they can pick that up tonight. Derrek Lee (16-for-33, 2 doubles, 4 HR) and Aramis Ramirez (9-for-21, 2 HR) lead the hit parade.
Ryan Dempster threw very well in his last start last Sunday in Miami -- that's what we need from him tonight, the guy who pitched so well last year. He has not had much success in Coors Field -- a 15.23 ERA in seven appearances (three starts, 13 total IP), but most of that came from two horrific starts he made in 2001 and 2003, comprising six of those innings and 16 of the 22 earned runs allowed. Against players currently on the Rockies he's done much better -- a .211 BAA. Only Todd Helton has hit him well -- .389 (7-for-18) with 3 HR.
TV tonight is, for the third game in a row, cable-only, CSN Chicago and FSN Rocky Mountain. If you are outside of Bud's Idiotic Blackout Zones, you should be able to see the game on the MLB Network. For other games today see the MLB.com Mediacenter.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Please visit our SB Nation Rockies site Purple Row.
Overflow comment threads will post today at 8:15 pm, 9:15 pm and 10 pm CDT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Vincent Padilla is available
Also I think Ponson
( now ducking)
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 8, 2009 5:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A resounding "no" to Sir Sidney
Let him beat up people on Caribbean beaches for the rest of his life.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 8, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Padilla?
Attitude problems, from what I hear. Oh, and a 4.92 ERA and 1.50 WHIP. No thanks.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 8, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't look at me
Anyone who can’t get along with and take advise from a Maddux does not deserve to pitch in the MLB let alone for the Cubs.
Just pointing out what is out there.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 8, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CC's no-no no more
Elsbury got a hit.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 8, 2009 5:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good luck Ryan.
I hope the Cubs bats are on fire tonight.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Aug 8, 2009 5:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
caption = waddup baby bradley
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 8, 2009 5:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
......

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 5:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
echo
echo…
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saturday game threads are always pretty slow
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Aug 8, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll get our quota of ledge-jumpers and sunshine-pumpers
Once the game actually starts. Probably.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Aug 8, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
and i’ll go find dinner instead when that happens (leaning toward turkey pot pie!)…
its starting to pick up finally, though.
by Allie on Aug 8, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had brats
Mmm…brats.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Aug 8, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm having chicken
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had deep fried pork from the Mexi-hood.
To. Die. For.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 8, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna miss Mexican food even more
Up here in the frozen North.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Aug 8, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
For good this time, or something approximating it…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Aug 8, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good thing
Until November, anyway – we’ll see how I feel then…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Aug 8, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fargo?
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 8, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
“Authentic Mexican” here means Taco Johns. Oh, the humanity!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Aug 8, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHA
The horror. Their tater tots, or “Potato Olés” are yummy though. However, not a single cuisine in Mexico has fried potatoes…
It’s easy to fake a Mexican meal with ingredients found anywhere. If you’re interested in some ideas, let me know.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 8, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Went to high school 30 miles from the border :D
I can whip up my own stuff, it’s just that all the ingredients are canned. Canned green chile sucks dead gophers through McDonald’s soda straws.
At least Atlanta had a big enough Mexican population to support a lot of markets (and taquerias). Fargo – not so much…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Aug 8, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paradiso, baby!
Had an excellent meal there while in Bismarck last month. Mexican Village is another choice.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 8, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paradiso looks like its always packed out
I may check it out on a Sunday afternoon. Kinda doubt they’ll have menudo, though.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Aug 8, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yuck
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 8, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True story
During high school, I worked in a kitchen with a little old Mexican grandmother. She was counting the days until she could get her Social Security, but she could still crank out the food. But if you got Carmen mad, even just a little, she’d grab the biggest knife she could find, point it at your belly, and say, “I’ll take your menudo out!”
Funny every single time…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Aug 8, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
I never thought of “it” that way. Very clever.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 8, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the slowest game thread
I’ve ever been in. I’ve been in my fair share too. I look in a lot also. Very slow. It is getting better though.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only 1:15 to game time!
And I think a lot of people are tired from all that typing in the Recap thread
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Aug 8, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still shellshocked from last night
The vitriol was a bit much.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 8, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't that bad when I joined
but that wasn’t until overflow 2…
by Allie on Aug 8, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said something like
“This is a pivotal series. I have this feeling in my stomach…” and got jumped. I’m in a frail state of mind.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 8, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, lucky I went to bed when I did.
Sounds like things got ugly in here again.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 8, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad I wasn't in here
Heck, I barely watched the game. I watched 2 innings, and got frustrated.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't watch the game
(stupid csn) so i checked gameday and saw z hadn’t started… so i logged in here.
by the time I got here, it was close enough of “over” no one was really upset anymore.
by Allie on Aug 8, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Had to work this morning at 7 AM.
Another morning shift tomorrow, so again, I won’t be on here much.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 8, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've had the same feeling though
Especially before we left for FLA, this stretch is tough.
by Allie on Aug 8, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
After this and the Philly series
We only have 10 more games against winning teams.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless Milwaukee and/or Houston go over .500 again.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 8, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
11, actually.
3 @ St. Louis
4 @ LA Dodgers
4 @ San Francisco
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 8, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And how many of the other teams
are within a game or two of .500?
by Allie on Aug 8, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
12 actually
we still have that one game with the White Sox to make up at some point. Although I don’t believe a date has been set so we may not have to play it.
by burncruisin on Aug 9, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree you got jumped
and I did defend you. I hope it doesn’t happen tonight.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Aug 8, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I <3 you sue
Thanks!
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 8, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got your back.
You’re a good guy.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Aug 8, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you girls
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 8, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I apologize
for leading the jump. If Sue says you’re a good guy, that’s good enough for me.
A victory tonight will make things at least a bit less edgy around here.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 8, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting stat
Stats_MLB: The #Rockies lead #MLB with 68 quality starts this season. Four different Rockie starters have at least 12 quality starts this year.
by Allie on Aug 8, 2009 5:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cubs are 2nd with 67, in fewer games.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 8, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks!
I wondered where we were on the list… but wasn’t quite sure how to figure that one out.
Hopefully this doesn’t pull us into a “quality start is a bogus stat” discussion. Again.
by Allie on Aug 8, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quality Start is a Bogus Stat is a bogus argument?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Aug 8, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
After the game...
Cubs and rocks will be tied.
Chicago
Cubs
We are the better CC.
by Zy Toro Young on Aug 8, 2009 5:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
oh HELL NAH!
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 8, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need to win today
If we can split this series and pull out 2 of 3 against Philly, I will feel good about this team.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 5:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Splitting this series
is exactly what I wanted going into it. Of course, winning the next three would be great, but winning two games in any four-game series is realistic.
Two out of three against the Phils would be nice, and it’s realistic because the Cubs are playing at home, where they’ve been exceptionally tough. I thought the Cubs-Phils series in Philly was pretty even. Phils blow out Cubs one game, Cubs do the same another game, and the third went 14 innings (or was it 15?).
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 8, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought
13
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
13 it was
Good recollection.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 8, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
......

You think you notice most everything around you, but in reality you're nearly blind to everything outside of your current focus. Hilarious example.
Another
by shake n bake on Aug 8, 2009 5:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
HELL YEAH!
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 8, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heilman and Miles for him
G ETI TDO NEJ IM
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO NOT MILES
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Aug 8, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
SORRY HE'S TO VALUABLE
SORIANO DOES NOTHING, TRADE HIM!!!
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+ADAM LIND
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Aug 8, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 TEAM DEAL
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
omg
his face exudes confidence.
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 8, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can have whatever look on his face he wants
if he keeps hitting .310/.346/.495 while playing average defense at 2nd
You think you notice most everything around you, but in reality you're nearly blind to everything outside of your current focus. Hilarious example.
Another
by shake n bake on Aug 8, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HELL YEAH!
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 8, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guarentee a win, and I'll tell you why.
I just moved into a new apartment, and just a few hours ago I hung my W flag in the living room.
PUT IT ON THE BOAAAAARRRDDDDDD
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Aug 8, 2009 5:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
PUT IT ON THE BOAAAAARRRDDDDDD
never say that again
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Aug 8, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah man, he's channeling his inner hawk. Everybody has an inner hawk.
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 8, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Aug 8, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
search deep inside and you will find it. STRETCH!
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 8, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh hell no.
That’s just wrong.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Aug 8, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 8, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the only inner Hawk I have
finds its way into the porcelain pool every morning.
bombs away!!
"I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix."
-- Dan Quayle
by LAcarl519 on Aug 8, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
....

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Aug 8, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aw you are forgiven. :D
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Aug 8, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ee-YES!!!!
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 8, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why aren't
Bradley and Miles on waivers? This could be addition by subtraction
by ChicagoRobb on Aug 8, 2009 5:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bradley is useful in the 2 spot and great against LHP
Miles knows where Hendry buried the bodies
You think you notice most everything around you, but in reality you're nearly blind to everything outside of your current focus. Hilarious example.
Another
by shake n bake on Aug 8, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They probably were both on waivers.
And not claimed.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Aug 8, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? Isn't that made public and we would've found out?
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 8, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no they don't make it public.
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 8, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least not on purpose.
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 8, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
waiving your two big offseason acquisitions
while you’re tied for first?
GITITDONE, JIMBO!
by Allie on Aug 8, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hr to game times..... let's go! let's go! let's go!
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 8, 2009 6:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Watching this Yankee/BoSox series
is fascinating… earlier in the year Boston was on fire and looked awesome. Now, they look like hot garbage.
by Allie on Aug 8, 2009 6:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
thats what happens when your RF, DH, and catcher players are offensive blackholes
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Aug 8, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
VMart?
Is a black hole?
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
varitek
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Aug 8, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know
But catcher isn’t a black hole anymore.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Backe is available
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 8, 2009 6:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
not that he's good or anything..... actually he's terrible
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 8, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Astros cut a pitcher
You know he ain’t good…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Aug 8, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one who reads his name as
Back’ne?
by Allie on Aug 8, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like this:

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 8, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woah
Just… woah.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh. My. Gosh.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 8, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
holy hell
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 8, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry for the nightmares...
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 8, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
scarred me for life …. lol
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 8, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep... and you aren't gonna like it
theriot
bradley
lee
rami
fukudome
soriano
soto
miles
dempster
by Allie on Aug 8, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What the...
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
really?
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Aug 8, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
gameday says.
i really really wish i could tell a story that horrible.
by Allie on Aug 8, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what the hell is lou smoking?
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Aug 8, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steroids?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Aug 8, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He calls it "the reefer."
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 8, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know, but I think I'll pass on it.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 8, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm kinda hoping for you to say
August fools or something
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aaron Miles
might be the worst Jim Hendry signing ever.
Tamia Lynn Davis:
Born: August 18, 2008
by Unique on Aug 8, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked it when it first happened
He was always a 300+ hitter. Now, it’s terrible. Plus the fact that Lou keeps running him out there.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
.300 hitter with on OBP, Power or defense
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by shake n bake on Aug 8, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no OBP, Power or defense
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by shake n bake on Aug 8, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's had
A decent OBP
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just from the average
a .300 hitter with no power, sub par D and didn’t walk much.
better?
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by shake n bake on Aug 8, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hated it when it happened. continue to hate it.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
by buckmulligan on Aug 8, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm.
this is his career line:
.284/.324/.358/.682
Season:
.197/.233/.252/.485
by Allie on Aug 8, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only quarrel I had with the Miles signing
was that it was for two years, not one.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 8, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At the time, me too
but now I see even the first year was a big mistake. The fact that Fontenot has stunk most of the year has only opened the door for Miles to play more.
by Harry Pavlidis on Aug 8, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wish
truly i do.
this may be my least favorite lineup ever. dome was doing awesome in leadoff… riot leading off means he’s going to try to steal the second he gets on base, miles is playing…
ugh, lou. just UGH!
by Allie on Aug 8, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How long until Blanco is "healed", again?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Aug 8, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miles is at 2nd right?
why not Baker or even Fonte?
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by shake n bake on Aug 8, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
apparently lou felt that fukudomes .300+ BA and .400+ OBP wasnt enough for a leadoff man
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Aug 8, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well sadly he also has the 4th best SLG and ISO of the regulars (Lee, Rami, Sori)
so they could kinda use him in the middle of the order.
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by shake n bake on Aug 8, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why mess with something thats working?
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Aug 8, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said above it's not what I would do
but it is justifiable, unlike Miles’ being allowed to play anything but bat boy.
You think you notice most everything around you, but in reality you're nearly blind to everything outside of your current focus. Hilarious example.
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by shake n bake on Aug 8, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
unlike Miles’ being allowed to play anything but bat boy.
i agree
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Aug 8, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no kidding
dome and bradley were the only ones doing anything last night… and now they’re all shuffled.
i’ve defended lou for lots of things (except his bullpen habits)… but this is stupid.
by Allie on Aug 8, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lou makes me want to cry.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Aug 8, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bright side?
this is just crazy/stupid enough to work?
yeah. i got nuthin.
by Allie on Aug 8, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
even though i despise the bradley signing and his lack of anything that resembles a big bat, if hes playing like a leadoff man or #2 guy, put him there. if fukudomes playing like a leadoff guy or #2 guy, put him there, no need to put them in spots they arent capable of playing
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Aug 8, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
eeww Miles
besides that I guess I’m ok with it.
Dome
Bradley
Lee
Rami
Sori
Soto
any other 2nd baseman
Demps
would be my preference
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by shake n bake on Aug 8, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm bad at writing full lineups
Dome
Bradley
Lee
Rami
Sori
Soto
Riot
any other 2nd baseman
Demps
You think you notice most everything around you, but in reality you're nearly blind to everything outside of your current focus. Hilarious example.
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by shake n bake on Aug 8, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone needs to
take Lou’s pencil away from him. Why can’t Dome be in the leadoff?
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Aug 8, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And
why is Miles still playing on this team.
Tamia Lynn Davis:
Born: August 18, 2008
by Unique on Aug 8, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'd be pretty good...
on the Pirates.
Any high school baseball team named the Pirates that is.
Tamia Lynn Davis:
Born: August 18, 2008
by Unique on Aug 8, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drew's son's team should sign him!!!!
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
These guys are pretty sharp, IIRC

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 8, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lotta great football
in Galena.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 8, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, they wiped the floor with everyone in sight when I lived in Dubuque and kept up with that stuff
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 8, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, i was shocked to see Galena Pirates
I’m also from Dubuque. I’ve covered Galena athletics for the Telegraph Herald. They indeed have a great football program, but they lost some key guys to graduation so I wouldn’t expect as much out of them this year, but Ed Freed is a pretty good coach so I wouldn’t out it past them.
by burncruisin on Aug 9, 2009 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he resembles a backup SS
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Aug 8, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That seems to be
the million dollar question. I wish I could answer it for you.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Aug 8, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
o.0
seriously? Ew.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 8, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
omgggggggggggggg
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 8, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh boy Lou panicked
I knew either Dome or Bradley were going to the five hole eventually. Lou’s desire for the lefty in the five spot to produce runs isn’t going away.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Aug 8, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Loved your frustrated Tweet last night.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Aug 8, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miles??? WTH???
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
by Invalid User on Aug 8, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so Miles walked in on Lou watching Spanktravision at the hotel, right?
what else explains his ability to get back into the starting line up?
"I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix."
-- Dan Quayle
by LAcarl519 on Aug 8, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Before condemning the lineup
why don’t we wait to see how it produces? How’s that for an original thought?
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 8, 2009 6:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If it works
great.
but its not one i want to see ever again.
by Allie on Aug 8, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're not going to believe this..But I agree
I did like Dome leading off, though. Theriot has been good there at times, so let’s see.
Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?
by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 8, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well maybe ;-)
I really do like Dome in the leadoff spot though but Miles should never be in the lineup. IMO
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Aug 8, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was hoping if I just ignored the Miles thing, it would just go away.
Really, I was hoping after the injury the stint in the minors would get him going even a little bit. I think he takes a little too much flak, but he really hasn’t contributed much in any way. Make me eat my words tonigt, Aaron!
Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?
by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 8, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're not going to believe this ... but I agree
on all counts.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 8, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gettin scary.
I’m out, bring home a win. Marquis is due for a cruddy outing.
Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?
by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 8, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want all the
players to do well when they play but it seems some guys get more chances than they should and some who do well when given the chance don’t get another chance. I don’t always understand Lou’s logic.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Aug 8, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
alright but
can you give me a good reason Fukudome is hitting fifth when he hits .325 with an obp of .436 in the leadoff spot? Isn’t that what a good leadoff hitter should do?
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 8, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lou would rather have his top 4 SLG/ISO guys hitting 3-6
that’s my best guess.
You think you notice most everything around you, but in reality you're nearly blind to everything outside of your current focus. Hilarious example.
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by shake n bake on Aug 8, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sadly, you're probably right.
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 8, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just don't get it
when soriano was tearing it up in leadoff, lou refused to move him down.
when fukudome is tearing up in leadoff, he finds the first opportunity to move him down.
by Allie on Aug 8, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Allie, Allie, Allie
There you go with the logic and Lou’s lineups…=)
Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?
by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 8, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some things can be condemmed on theory alone
Even if Theriot goes 3-for-4 tonight, putting him in the leadoff spot because Fontenot is sitting (which has to be why Fukodome is going to the 5 spot) is just poor tactically.
It’s like Dusty starting Jose Macias because, well, he was on the 25-man roster so Dusty felt like he should start some games.
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
by Invalid User on Aug 8, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never mind people commenting before the game.
usually the more they hate the lineup the better it does (except for Miles, he usually lives up to expectations)
"I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix."
-- Dan Quayle
by LAcarl519 on Aug 8, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cards threatening .... and pujols grounds out to third
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 8, 2009 6:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
call the world .... wainwright has a no hitter through 3
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 8, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dialing
Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?
by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 8, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ronny's up! Let's go Ronny!
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 8, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh oh
Why don’t we just give the game to the Cards.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CALL YOUR SONS CALL YOUR DAUGHTERS CALL YOUR FRIENDS CALL YOUR NEIGHBORS
ADAM WAINRIGHT HAS A NO HITTER GOING INTO THE 4TH
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Aug 8, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
pujols grounds out to third, there were no survivors.
FTFY
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by shake n bake on Aug 8, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 8, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Going to miss most of the game, maybe catch evryone in the this game is boring b/c we are winning by 10 runs thread
Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?
by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 8, 2009 6:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You'll be missed.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Aug 8, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks, Sue! Go Cubs!!
Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?
by BleedsbluinMI on Aug 8, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I won't be able to chat with you.
Gotta work again tomorrow morning, will be here for some of the game.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 8, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Back from dinner.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 6:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Miles starting again.
What the hell, man? I mean, seriously, what kind of logic does Lou give for this? Chicago is a big ass city; surely one of the reporters has asked him this by now. And if not, they are all failing at their jobs.
Just the sight of his name in the lineup alone really pisses me off.
by kanderber on Aug 8, 2009 6:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
neifi gave miles his personal blackmail on hendry
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Aug 8, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I miss Nefi
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damnit, Rockies announcers again...
It’s been forever since I’ve heard Len and Bob. The Reds crew were all three games, and now the Rockies for the first two. WTF??
by kanderber on Aug 8, 2009 7:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is the comment box
Kinda messed up for anyone else too?
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 7:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
just refresh
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Aug 8, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still wierd
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 8, 2009 7:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
marquis
yes this was a bad trade. obviously marquis would not have won 12 games the way the cubs have played but he still pitched some good games for us. hendry basically gutted this team to pick up bradley and now everyone is paying for it. imagine if we still had wood,marquis, and derosa instead of bradley. i would be thinking playoffs in oct instead of a golf date.
by NOMAR on Aug 9, 2009 7:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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