Much-Maligned Bullpen & Fukudome Lead Cubs To 6-5 Win Over Rockies
by Al Yellon on Aug 9, 2009 7:32 AM CDT
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PrintSo if I had told you yesterday afternoon that:
- Aramis Ramirez would make a costly error and leave the game with shoulder soreness;
- The Cubs would cough up a lead by allowing three unearned runs;
- Lou would take Kosuke Fukudome out of the leadoff spot where he'd been successful;
- And, the Cubs would nearly lose a run when Milton Bradley would get thrown out trying to take an extra base while Ryan Theriot was racing to score...
You'd probably have thought that last night's game would be a 10-2 blowout loss, or something along those lines, right?
The Cubs overcame all that wackiness and beat the Rockies 6-5, behind Fukudome's RBI double and ninth homer of the year and some clutch pitching from a bullpen where "shaky" has been the operative word for the last couple of months.
Ryan Dempster threw well enough; he allowed the Rockies five runs, but only two of them were earned after Ramirez's miscue helped open the door to four Colorado runs (only one earned) in the fourth inning after the Cubs had taken a 2-0 lead in the top of the inning. I'm going to cut Aramis some slack, because after he had leaped to try to snag a line drive into left field earlier in the inning, his left shoulder appeared to visibly bother him and he eventually had to leave the game. Ramirez won't play today and hopefully, just needs a couple days of rest.
The Cubs started to pick away at the Rockies' 4-2 lead; Derrek Lee's 23rd homer of the year made it 4-3 in the fifth. D-Lee now has more homers than any full season since 2005, and there's still a third of this year left -- so he has an outside shot at 40 for only the second time in his career.
Another pair of runs gave the Cubs a 5-4 lead in the sixth; this was the inning in which Bradley hit a ball high off the wall in right field with Theriot on second. It came right back to Brad Hawpe, who gunned down Bradley trying to stretch this hit into a double. It wasn't an unreasonable chance, but the tag came down only a second or so after Theriot scored; had it been a little bit quicker the run wouldn't have counted.
Fukudome's homer made it 6-4 and then the bullpen took over. After Clint Barmes homered off Dempster with nobody out in the seventh to make it 6-5, Angel Guzman, Carlos Marmol and Kevin Gregg shut down the Rockies over the last three innings, giving them a pair of harmless singles and striking out four. Marmol, in particular, looked really good last night -- he threw 13 strikes in his 19 pitches and appeared, at least for one night, to have his command back. If he can keep throwing like this, that solidifies the entire rest of the bullpen.
One thing I haven't commented on before, but really noticed last night -- Guzman looks very strange in those glasses.
So the Cubs win despite Lou's wacky lineup and more injuries. Both Theriot and Fukudome produced in their new lineup spots, and Bradley raised his BA to a season-high .256 with his pair of hits. Let's keep it going this afternoon; the game preview thread will be up at 12 noon CDT.
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You forgot the Aaron Miles TRIPLE
THE play of the game! Just kidding, but where the Hell did that come from?
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
Aaron Miles
name is familiar, but I can’t remember why. He must have been horribly inconsequential. Like a Bears QB or a Bulls center. Or maybe Ozzie’s PR guy.
He still needs a HR
to have hit for the “season cycle”. Pretty typical performance: Over a 7-year career, Miles has 15 triples and 16 HRs. I’m pulling for him to hit another triple, balance the stats…and get put on waivers while his value is (relatively) high.
I dunno If it was just me...
But the way he was running I was laughing my ass off.
It wasn't just you
there was something about the way he was motoring around the bases that looked funny
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 9, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions
To say of nothing....
…of how awkward he looked on some double plays around 2nd base. Just weird.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 9, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Because he didn't expect they'd actually turn any!
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 9, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
My friend I was watching the game with
said that Miles looked like one of those old movies sped up as he was running the bases.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Aug 9, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
"I think I can I think I can I think I can!"
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 9, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Aaron who now?
Where does he play and for whom?
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
Get Aaron Miles off this team already.
He once again failed to make plays in the field last night that even Fontenot would have made… and Blanco certainly would’ve made. He’s garbage.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
Even the sun shines on a blind squirrel's ass every once in a while.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 9, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions
...and he also fins a "nut" or two while his ass is warming in the sun...
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
fins=finds
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
That is about
The strangest thing I’ve ever heard.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 9, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I've always heard
it said “a dogs ass” but I may be wrong too.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
It was a combination of the sun shining on a dog's ass
and a blind squirrel finding a nut every once in a while. I guess if I had thrown in the one about a broken clock being right twice a day I would have befuddled everyone.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 9, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought maybe
that’s what you were doing. :-)
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
Did you see how awkward he looked running that thing out?
I mean, far be it from me to make fun of someone for actually hustling around the bases (THERIOT!), but we were laughing hysterically at how funny Miles looked zipping around the bases.
Yeah, his arms were going one direction and his legs were going another. I thought he was going
to fall flat on his face as he rounded second.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 9, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
It was hilarious.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
Was it funnier than Lilly's triple ?
I was not watching ( too cowardly ) so I don’t know.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 9, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes.
He looked like a miniature Ron Cey with loaded drawers . . .
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 9, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh yes much funnier.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
hes not used to running around the bases
he was caught up in the moment, like a little kid
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Aug 9, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, FIRST
I’m here in Denver, but won’t catch any of the games this weekend. Long story, but I’m representing Cubbie blue when I’m out and about. Front page story in yesterday’s Denver Post about how well the Cubs fans travel on the road – it was called “Cub Level Seats.”
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
Was it
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 9, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Yup - thanks for finding the link
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
by DKT on Aug 9, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
If the Boston Red Sox have their own nation, that must mean the Chicago Cubs have their own continent.
I like that. Cubs Continent!
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 9, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I look forwar to representing the cubs contenent...
…this afternoon at Coors Field :) My sons first baseball game and m y first game (and probably only) game this season.
If the Cubs were an international soccer team they'd be called Scotland.
Have a great time and
I hope you get to see a Cubs victory.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
I love it
I despise de term “nation.” So I hope this new word gets adopted.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
So, let
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 9, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
So, let's be "Cubs Continent" from now on!
P.S.: Not sure how I ended up in preview in the other post.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 9, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
This 9th day of August...
Year 2009, the term Cub Continent was born.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 9, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Somebody should send a note of acknowledgement to Jim Armstrong of the Denver Post
He coined it, after all.
Volunteer? Anyone?
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
I guess it's better than
“Cubs Incontinent.”
"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.
Good win - recovering from a lot of sloppy play
The 4th inning was the worst that I’ve seen in a long time. Three botched double plays and a botched caught stealing on a wild pitch. Pretty tough to come back from that and they did it.
Theriot continues to show a lack of baseball smarts as he trotted around on Bradley’s hit, only hustling at the last minute. I had the Rockies’ announcers, so I can only imagine what Brenly said when Soriano got doubled off on a line drive right to the second baseman.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
I don't think it was all Soriano's fault on the line drive.
That hit was pretty much right up the middle to a shifted second baseman. If he’s being played straight up thats an RBI single.
Change is inevitable; progress is optional.
A runner needs to look at where the fielders are
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 9, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Still...
Soriano should have been aware of where the fielders were positioned. Maybe if he freezes on the line drive, and it gets through, then he doesn’t score. That would leave us with runners at the corners and one out, not a bad situation. As it was, I think he would have scored anyway. The ball was tailing back towards right, and the CF was playing him to pull.
This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains.
What did Brenly say, btw?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 9, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know, either.
I was stuck with the MLB Network broadcast, which used the Rockies feed like you had.
This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains.
Brenly didn't have a complaint...
As far of a lead as Fonzie had, and with the Rockies SS toward the 2nd place bag, I think he’s doubled off even if he froze.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 9, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions
When did he say that remark that we were commenting on in the game threads?
“Can we ever run hard,” or something like that?
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 9, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Riot on Bradley's double attempt?
That really was a brain fart by Riot. Or Quade. Or both.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 9, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Wasn't Quade's fault. The replay showed him yelling at Theriot. He was waving
his arms to try to get Theriot to speed up but Theriot was watching the ball. The basball I.Q. of this team is unbelieveable.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 9, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
This...
Theriot slowed up expecting to score easily, but Bradley was running hard and Theriot was in “oh shit” mode trying to score.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 9, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
It really is - and that's an organizational issue
There are teams like the Twins that always seem to do the little things right, including players that come up from their system.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 9, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Sori
had no chance to get back to the bag. The shift killed it.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 9, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
I can see that
That’s just bad luck. If it was not knowing where the fielder was, that would’ve been inexcusable.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 9, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Brenley did go-off on Theriot for not running on that Bradley hit...
“Is it too much to ask for major league players to RUN during the few times they’re on base during each game?!” Something along the lines of that, and they replayed him jogging at least 4 times. He didn’t get on Bradley at all since he was apparently running the whole time he was trying to stretch it out.
BB no longer feels it necessary to sugar coat bad play.
He tread lightly his first couple of years doing color commentary often giving excuses for bad play- but no more. And I’m glad of that. Call it what it is. Good play or bad.
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
I also like it when he calls out other teams' players for something bad they do.
See Dan Uggla, Leo Nunez, and Koyie Hill about a week ago.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 9, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not sure.....
…..if he just hasn’t had more opportunities to be blunt this year. You can justify some poor play if your team is scoring bunches of runs like 2008.
When you struggle to score runs, waste good starting pitching, have players having down years, not playing fundamental baseball…..I think BB’s frustration level is about the same as ours.
I’m trying to think back to the first couple of months or ’07 when we were playing like crap if BB was just as outspoken. Not sure.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 9, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't believe he was. I thought less of him as a color guy
because he came off as a “company” man then. Pulling his punches, so to speak…
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
I for one love it...
He doesn’t harp on things all game, but he points out what needs to be pointed out and then moves on.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 9, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
And he doesn't constantly whine about the umpires like Hawk does.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 9, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Bradley
was running as hard as ever. Riot was doing what we always tell the little league kids to not do — watch the ball.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 9, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Bradley was not
running hard down to 1st. You could tell the difference in his pace when he noticed that there was about to be a play on him at 2nd. Theriot was just plain stargazing. Brenly ripped him time and again.
If you like Selig's handling of the steroid issue, you'll love his choice for next Cub owner.
I think you are mistaken. Bradley ran hard right out of the box. They had the camera on him and
he never slowed up after he hit the ball. It was a good play for the RF to catch the ball and turn and fire it to second like he did. The ball was a rocket that never got high in the air. I was surprised that the play was as close as it ended up being.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Aug 9, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Absolutely
Can’t rip MB for that one- Riot was flat trotting. Got lucky on that one
"I still don't know what happened"- Fergie Jenkins on '69
by tommy veryzer on Aug 9, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed. Bradley really did nothing wrong.
Sometimes you have to give the other guy credit – it was a good play.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 9, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep, Milton
gave it all he had.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
He's been doing that the whole season
That’s why it gets me so mad when people rip on him. He try’s to hard.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 9, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Soriano
and 99% of any other runners would have been doubled off on that play. Take a look at the replay and you’ll see it was just one of those plays. As for Theriot, he was starwatching. It was a terrible decision on his part and should never have occurred. However, to suggest this reinforces Theriot’s lack of baseball smarts is outrageous.
Brenly said nothing about Soriano on the DP. It was a play that almost every other ballplayer would have been doubled on.
If you like Selig's handling of the steroid issue, you'll love his choice for next Cub owner.
Fair enough on Soriano
Theriot was flat out sleeping
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 9, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
reminded me of game 2 of the 2008 NLDS...
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Aug 9, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Bradley, Fox & Dome need to step up
While aRam is on the mend. Let’s hope it is only a minor tweak.
And kudos to the cardiac bullpen!
"I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix."
-- Dan Quayle
by LAcarl519 on Aug 9, 2009 8:30 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
glasses
>One thing I haven’t commented on before, but really noticed last night — Guzman looks very strange in those glasses.<
Guzman = Erkle.
I watched opening day in bar in NYC
with a group of other Cub fans and the thing I remember most is when Gregg started warming up some guy shouts out
" Our closer wears googles ?". Maybe you had to be there but it was pretty damn funny.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 9, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe we need to start calling Gregg "Barney Google"
…with the goo-goo googley eyes…
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
Someone else already has googly eyes.
I won’t say who, but he plays for Milwaukee and has a huge ego.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 9, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
A few things.
Milton is hitting fairly well recently, I like him hitting second.
Kosuke, the deal isn’t looking so bad as it was in July last year.
Oh and Al, typo, D Lee’s solo shot made it 4-3.
The Cubs started to pick away at the Rockies’ 4-2 lead; Derrek Lee’s 23rd homer of the year made it 4-2 in the fifth.
Change is inevitable; progress is optional.
A win is a win!! Thankfully there was no" quit" in the cubbies, last night
In spite of fact that some bumbling defense made the hill steeper!…… I heard the end w/laptop in the sack, and fell asleep to wrapup! :P ……….followed by sweet dreams!
lets get’em again today!
by CubfaninRaleigh(869milestoWrigley) on Aug 9, 2009 8:43 AM CDT reply actions
I like our chances today with Randy Wells...
If we split the next two games, the road trip ends 5-5.
If we win the next two games, the road trip ends 6-4.
Big difference. It would be nice to take 3 of 4 against the Rockies…
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
by DKT on Aug 9, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions
lineup
Regarding the discussion I had with a few yesterday. With the exception of the sac, Milton is on his way back and the #2 spot is where he should be for now. I am very happy with the Riot Dome change. These two can be flip flopped if needed. Now if we can get really really good news on the Aram front..The future looks good. Must hit the road, no responses from me today.
There goes one over the fence...a Tru-Link fence.
Agreed...
Milton should stay in that #2 spot.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 9, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
One thing that hasn't been mentioned...
Milton Bradley had a pretty clutch catch at the wall.
...sounded clutch on the radio when Pat called it...
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
And, the Cubs would nearly lose a run when Milton Bradley would get thrown out trying to take an extra base while Ryan Theriot was racing to score…
Was Ryan really “racing to score”? I was quite upset about this play because he was trotting at best, until the last few steps. He made that play a lot closer than it needed to be (and could have been called out).
If Bradley hadn't gone for second, Theriot would probably still be at third base (or gunned down at home)
I don’t fault MB for running hard in to second there anyway. He hit that ball off the wall in Coors field – it took a great bounce right to the OF who made a spectacular throw. 99 times out of 100 he makes it into second easily there
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. -- Bruce Bartlett
This is the first game all year
That I can remember the Cubs making a costly error and not blowing their lead.
Had they lost last night I really think it would have been detrimental to their seasons success.
Slightly OT: Missed most of last night's Cubs game watching the Dayton Dragons
beat the living crap out of a terrible Lansing Lugnuts team at Olds Park 18-5. And believe me when I tell you, the game wasn’t THAT close. The Lugs had 3 errors, and should have had six. The Dragons had 21 hits and went on cruise control after the 7th inning.
It was so bad mid-game that Dayton quit trying to score. With the Dragons up 18-2 and runners on the corners and one out, the Dayton batter hit a deep fly ball to the warning track in left and the runner at third DIDN’T tag up and score on the “gimmie” sac fly to make it 19-2.
Too bad there isn’t a “mercy” rule in minor league ball. It would have gotten the post game fireworks started an hour earlier…
Can the Lugnuts “re-affiliate” with the Cubs please? This relationship with the Toronto Blue Jays ’ain’t workin’…
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
And, the Cubs would nearly lose a run when Milton Bradley would get thrown out trying to take an extra base while Ryan Theriot was racing to score…
Ryan Theriot was NOT racing to score. He was… wait for it… lollygagging. Bradley was doing the right thing — forcing the play to come to him, and not go home, and Ryan should have scored easily, rather than having to stretch out at the last second.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 9, 2009 9:59 AM CDT reply actions 5 recs
Agreed 100%
that was entirely on Theriot, not Bradley
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Aug 9, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
LSA
Rec’d
NAMBLA
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. -- Bruce Bartlett
NAMBLA?
"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.
Not Actually Milton Bradly Loping Around?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 9, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
totally agree
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
This.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 9, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I was listening on WGN radio, so I'm basing this on Pat's call...
but isn’t worth mentioning that Bradley twice just missed HR’s? (ie two shots off the top portion of the wall?). He had an excellent game both at the plate and in the field (that running play notwithstanding…and which didn’t bother me that much since it was a hustle play, and the fact that the closeness of the run scoring was Theriot’s fault). His catch in right was excellent as well.
I mention this ’cause I was a little surprised that about the only thing said about Bradley in the recap was his running mistake…even though he had an excellent game and was essential to the win.
I’m not Bradley’s agent or anything, but give credit where credit is due and all that…
Did say he had two hits and raised his BA to a season high.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Seriously?
That’s your response? Multiple posters have pointed out how dead wrong your description of the Bradley/Theriot play is and this is your defense?
What happened to acknowledging you’re wrong when presented with a reasonable argument?
Going to turn this into a witch-hunt with your second post?
Sure, I got it wrong. You could have been more pleasant. Guess that’s not within you.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Or...you could have corrected it rather than grudgingly saying that he had two hits
Or by sweeping Theriot’s lollygagging under the rug.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. -- Bruce Bartlett
You are correct.
I did NOT mean to imply anything wrong with Bradley’s play. My mistake, and I apologize.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Al, I have to say, this does come across as anti-Bradley bias
And that play was 100% on Theriot
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 9, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Man- lighten up, Francis
"I still don't know what happened"- Fergie Jenkins on '69
by tommy veryzer on Aug 9, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the problem is
that this:
And, the Cubs would nearly lose a run when Milton Bradley would get thrown out trying to take an extra base while Ryan Theriot was racing to score…
Seems to put the blame for nearly losing the run on Bradley, not on Riot, when it’s exactly the opposite.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Aug 9, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
To be honest,
I had actaully missed that you said that. So I guess that counts a little.
Though, respectfully, I’m not sure that still quite captures that it was solid shots twice off the top of the wall. They weren’t cheap, Aaron Miles-esque hits for example…(well, I’m imagining what it would be like if Miles ever GOT a hit….) :)
by CubsWin!Oregon on Aug 9, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Ugh... Miles.
This guy isn’t even making routine plays out there. Disgusting.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
Actually...
given that he had a triple yesterday, I probably should withhold making fun of him for a day. I’m not willing him to be a failure or anything…(and for all I know that was the first of a 30 game hitting streak). :)
by CubsWin!Oregon on Aug 9, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
(dying laughing)
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. -- Bruce Bartlett
Bradley in the #2 spot
I don’t know what took so long for that to happen. We’ve been discussing that around here for a while. He’s an OBP guy… not an RBI guy.
The only downfall from it is… Dome moves out of the lead-off spot… where he’s really turned it on. But, at least Dome moved back to the 5th spot, where he’s also done very well in his career splits so far.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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I was wondering why that necessitated Dome's move in Lou's mind?
Is it because of the obsession of never having a 2 lefties in a row?
by CubsWin!Oregon on Aug 9, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Probably
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
I don't get Piniella's lefty-righty obsession!
Or his determination to play the percentages with the bullpen, either. If someone’s pitching well, let him pitch to more than one batter, for cryin’ out loud!
by Blue Heron on Aug 9, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
It was trying....
To fit a square peg in a round hole all year. He was signed to be a big RBI guy in the middle of the order. However, he hasn’t been that this year (not saying he can’t be), so I’m glad the staff finally decided to use the strengths he does have this year (OBP) and put him in the appropriate spot.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 9, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Stat of the day
David Aardsma: 26 saves, 1.58 ERA, 62 Ks in 51.1 Innings
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
You're tellin me. Unreal.
This is the kind of surprise we need to happen for us at closer.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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The White Sox...
Essentially gave up on him as well.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 9, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
That's because they should have
Here’s a season from another player the Cubs let ‘slip away’
728 PA, 57 HR, 142 RBI, .325/.429/.688, 174 OPS +
The player? Luis Gonzalez in 2001. Doesn’t change the fact that releasing him in 1996 was the right move for the Cubs, just like getting rid of Aardsma after 2006 was the right move for the Cubs. You just can’t expect these things
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. -- Bruce Bartlett
Exactly...
He just wasn’t very good here. Things like this happen.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Aug 9, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Same with McGehee, really
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 9, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Right, that's an even better example
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. -- Bruce Bartlett
See? We can get along. ;)
Actually, I wasn’t all that upset yesterday, just surprised by how heated the thread became . . . and got defensive.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 9, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
The universe is against us.
This almost cinches it.
"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.
Great
Let’s make a fanpost on how the Cubs should have kept him.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 9, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I was very surprised
when Lou chose to pitch to the #8 man in the 4 run inning. Even though Marquis is a decent hitting pitcher, he is a pitcher. Add to that the #8 hitter already had a hit off Dempster.
If you like Selig's handling of the steroid issue, you'll love his choice for next Cub owner.
Though wasn't that #8 man...
batting something like .158? (I’m going off memory).
by CubsWin!Oregon on Aug 9, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah he's blanco-esque
all glove no bat
It's shocking what you can miss sometimes. The amazing color changing card trick.
by shake n bake on Aug 9, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
A great win even
though there were many blunders in the game. I am really happy with MB’s play last night. I have always wanted him to do well in a Cub uniform and I hope he can keep this going. I was worried about Dome not being in the leadoff spot but it worked out well anyway.
I love that BB isn’t afraid to criticize when it is warranted. I really love the sense of humor that he and Len both have. They do a great job.
I am worried about Aramis. I hope it is only a few days rest thing but my fear is he will end up needing surgery on his shoulder. I felt so bad for him when they showed him sitting on the bench after he reinjured his shoulder.
After we lost the lead last night the game thread was infested with BLou. All he did was bait people and call them names. Of course as soon as we took the lead back he disappeared. He relishes Cub losses and I have no clue why he is still here.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
Maybe he's actually a Cardinals fan, who gets his jollies out of depressing the Cub's fanbase...
I can’t say I’ve never wondered that.
As for the rest of your post, I think I agree with everything there. :)
by CubsWin!Oregon on Aug 9, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
You may be onto
something there. When I first joined this site he did talk about being in St. Louis a lot.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
Did you hear Brenly
When Sori wasn’t hustling on Friday? “Are you suprised,” was his line.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 9, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes I did. I love
that he calls out lazy, sloppy, dumb, etc. plays.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
Snagglepuss even
-The Len and Bob show is outstanding. And they get exponentially more fun when the team is losing. Case in point, Friday night. They were off in their little world, talking about randomness. And it made the game bearable, mostly.
-Ramirez should have the surgery in November, no matter if he feels good the rest of the season. It’ll alleviate any lingering pain and will have him swinging hard by January. I’ve gone through the process myself and the rehab is more painful than the surgery.
-I understand BLou’s role here. I just wish you all would stop answering. Treat him as a n00b even.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Sound advice
-I understand BLou’s role here. I just wish you all would stop answering.
And, if people really, really feel the need to respond, perhaps killing him with kindness.
He really does live for this. I suspected it several times last year, and yesterday’s game thread clinched it for me.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 9, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Makes sense. Rabblerousers often have thin skins.
by Blue Heron on Aug 9, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know if it's a thin skin, though
I think he loves those reactions. I really do.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 9, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
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