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Winning Streak At Four: Cubs Defeat Reds 6-4 Despite Harden's Struggles

Summer arrived at Wrigley Field today, a couple of months late. Didn't anyone tell the weather folks that this is the weather we should have had in July?

Rich Harden apparently wanted to make summer last forever, as he threw an alarming 103 pitches in four innings before Lou had seen enough and sent Aaron Miles up to bat for him in the last of the fourth. Miles actually saw four pitches before grounding to second. (Harden probably could have done that, and then been lifted anyway.) It got so bad with Harden's lack of control that Lou actually had David Patton warming up in the first inning, despite the fact that Harden hadn't allowed a hit. Instead, Harden had walked the bases loaded and thrown 39 pitches to get the first three outs.

Thankfully, the Cubs had enough offense off Justin Lehr, who had shut them out in Cincinnati in August. Aramis Ramirez drove in three runs -- he now has 54 RBI, and with two more will move into second place on the 2009 Cub team list behind Derrek Lee. Think about that. 56 RBI is 2nd on the team, and Ramirez has about half the at-bats of the people he's passing. That's how difficult offense has been to come by at times for this team. Geovany Soto homered -- his first since August 10 -- and the Cubs hung on for a 6-4 win. Their playoff hopes with 23 games remaining and an 8.5 game deficit may be very slim (0.7% by Baseball Prospectus' estimate), but all you can do is go out there every day and win your game and see what happens.

Star-divide

Lou apparently decided to use the middle innings, with the Cubs leading 4-1 after Soto's homer, to audition pitchers for next year's bullpen. Perhaps we can cross Jeff Stevens off the list. Stevens gave up two singles and a three-run homer to Jonny Gomes, tying the game. For that performance, Stevens got his first major league win, because he was the pitcher of record when Kosuke Fukudome walked for the second time in the game, went to second on a wild pitch, and scored on Ramirez's single. This is proof positive that wins for relief pitchers are virtually meaningless. The official scorer does have the discretion to award the victory to someone other than the pitcher of record if he pitches "briefly and ineffectively", as the official rules state. Today was a perfect example of a game where that could have been the case. Aaron Heilman -- who's actually thrown better lately -- came in after Stevens and threw two shutdown innings, striking out the side in the seventh and throwing 22 strikes in his 34 pitches. Heilman deserved the win.

Also auditioning for next year was Esmailin Caridad, who has a good arm and also threw a good scoreless inning. He needs to develop a breaking pitch; perhaps the Cubs will send him to winter ball so he can work on one. Caridad, who will be 26 next month, could be an important part of the 2010 bullpen.

Carlos Marmol will definitely be the anchor of that pen -- it appears he has finally settled down now that he's been officially named closer. Despite a walk and single (which wouldn't have been a single if Andres Blanco had been inserted for defense in the 9th, as Koyie Hill was), Marmol stayed within himself and finished off the Reds for his 12th save.

As I said -- the chances are slim. But the Cubs are setting themselves up to have one of the better Septembers in recent memory; they're 7-3 and riding a four-game winning streak. Let's keep riding it. Keep the faith and go Cubs.

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Maybe Today Will Be The Day

that the Cubs actually gain ground on St. Louis. Not that it matters, but the Cubs have not won on the same day that St. Louis lost since July 30th. That’s the entire month of August and 1/3 of September without ever having a day where the Cubs gained a game against the Cards. Unreal.

One day, the dream will come true.

by brianp88 on Sep 11, 2009 5:00 PM CDT reply actions  

I said this before and I'll say it again: The Cardinals will wind up with the best record in the NL...

And the way the Rockies are playing, the Dodgers better be worried…

Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...

Amen.

by Zeke on Sep 11, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

makes me a little sick to read that

Seeing the Cardinals succeed makes the Cubs’ struggles this year much worse.

by elgato on Sep 11, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

It makes me a little sick to type it, but hey, facts is facts...

Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...

Amen.

by Zeke on Sep 11, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

AND SAD TO SAY

you are right. When we left Detroit in June ( After 3 days of agony , my wife said the Cubs are going to have to play much better . They have not this is the end result.

by cubs north on Sep 11, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

They've been mediocre all year. 18-18 in ST and barely above .500 during the season. You have to give them points for consistency.

No, we really don’t…

Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...

Amen.

by Zeke on Sep 12, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

That is just an incredible stat.

MLBMilestone.com - following the numbers to Cooperstown

by D98 on Sep 11, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Finally!

We gained a game! The annoying streak is over!

One day, the dream will come true.

by brianp88 on Sep 12, 2009 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090911&content_id=6904754&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc


“I like [Fukudome] at the top part of the lineup,” Piniella said. “I don’t know about specifically the leadoff spot. The way we’re put together here, he and Theriot are basically our best options. Depending on what happens over the winter, we could stay that way. But if we got somebody who … was capable of stealing 30 or 40 bases, that would change, obviously.”
right…

people who swing at the first pitch should get punched in the face

by jesus christos on Sep 11, 2009 5:09 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought

Lou liked Dome at the leadoff spot when he put him there before. Then for some reason put Theriot there and struggled. Goodness Lou.

by Grockcubs on Sep 11, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, "Theriot is one of our best options to leadoff..."

….just boggles the mind.

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on Sep 11, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

what

you mean someone who rarely takes 3 pitches and has a .350ish OBP isnt a good lead off hitter?

people who swing at the first pitch should get punched in the face

by jesus christos on Sep 11, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holy Alfonso Soriano batman

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Sep 11, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

good point

lou has a thing for putting our best power hitters in the leadoff spot…

people who swing at the first pitch should get punched in the face

by jesus christos on Sep 11, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we don't have Theriot, we have no SS

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Sep 11, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

we have

AARON MILES

people who swing at the first pitch should get punched in the face

by jesus christos on Sep 11, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

aaron miles

i dont know why that didnt show up

people who swing at the first pitch should get punched in the face

by jesus christos on Sep 11, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

No love for Andy White?

Jerry’s been so distant lately and Lovie barely calls.- Just Dave

by Allie on Sep 11, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

almost as odd as Dusty loving Neifi Perez and Corey Patterson at leadoff

what is it with us hiring managers who can’t put an effing lineup together?

by Illicat on Sep 11, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Soriano wants surgery!

Not sure if this has been covered yet, but here you go…

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=4465322

Chicago Cubs outfielder Alfonso Soriano said he wants to get an operation on his left knee “sooner than later,” which likely means he’s done for the season.

“I’m very disappointed, but I have to do what I have to do,” Soriano told ESPN 1000’s Bryan Dolgin on Friday. “I’m battling. Now I think I want to get an operation sooner than later … to get ready for next year. I have to play with one leg now.”

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on Sep 11, 2009 5:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Contradiction?
Cubs LF Alfonso Soriano is to get a second opinion on the left knee injury that has sidelined him since Sept. 4, and manager Lou Piniella said it was ’’doubtful’’ Soriano will play again this season. Piniella also said Soriano’s days of batting leadoff were ‘’over with.’’

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/gameflash/2009/09/11/26758_recap.html#ixzz0Qq88IyPl

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by carmen_fanzone on Sep 11, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is this an Octavio Dotel situation?

Remember when Dotel was demanding (and received) a TJ surgery, despite the fact that the team physicians said it was unnecessary?

According to the Cubs’ docs, Soriano’s knee is “inflamed”, but not seriously injured.

Soriano wants an operation immediately, and he’s going to get a second opinion. I hope that he isn’t just looking for someone to tell him that he needs an operation.

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by D98 on Sep 11, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

If it's inflamed

It’s because there’s some type of structural damage on the inside. More than likely, his knees just need to be scoped. It’s nothing major, but if they can clean up his cariledge (not sure if I spelled that right), he should be fine.

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by Craig in South Bend on Sep 11, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Inflamed...

…does not at all mean that there is structural damage in his knee. They gave him a cortisone shot before, which coincides with inflamation (similar to tendinitis) and this would not require a scope unless he had damaged meniscus or stuff floating around loose in his knee.

The thing about knees is they are very straight forward (unlike shoulders). This whole thing still smells very fishy that they let it go this long.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 11, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

According to the Cubs’ docs, Soriano’s knee is "inflamed", but not seriously injured.

its the same thing TRL had, and he had surgery on it too

people who swing at the first pitch should get punched in the face

by jesus christos on Sep 11, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lilly had a torn meniscus

The only thing I’ve heard reported about Soriano is tendinitis.

Case studies quote patients reporting a sensation of "giving way," a "bursting noise" or "sudden explosion."

by Caledonia on Sep 11, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

i thought lilly just had inflammation

meh

people who swing at the first pitch should get punched in the face

by jesus christos on Sep 11, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Torn menisucs is a tear in the cartilage around the kneecap.

It’s perfectly possible to play through a torn meniscus (once you’ve recovered from the initial trauma); it’s just that there will be random cartilage flapping around in your knee, and possibly the knee will be less stable. This could easily cause tendinitis and swelling in the knee. But you don’t really know whether there’s a structural problem or not until you check. My understanding is that MRIs can sometimes determine whether there’s a tear in cartilage or ligaments and sometimes they’re inconclusive.

by aldimond on Sep 11, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is what I'm suffering from in both knees

And I knew when my knees would always get sore at night, or if I was sitting funny. The other thing that would happen is my knee would lock up, or just give out. My doctor called it a bucket handle for the way the cartilage would flap over. I can only speak for myself, but mine was initially diagnosed by my doctor, and then confirmed via MRI.

www.facebook.com/craighudak

by Craig in South Bend on Sep 12, 2009 7:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sin-kissed?

I know there’s a joke here somewhere:

Wearing red caps to commemorate lives lost on Sept. 11, 2001, the Cubs kept alive their dwindling playoff hopes in front of 39,881 sin-kissed fans.

Is that a new brand of orange juice?

Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...

Amen.

by Zeke on Sep 11, 2009 5:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Sin-kissed?

Hmmm. I didn’t see anyone like that. But then, maybe they were all in RF.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 11, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

This why signing

Harden is a tough spot. The guy can have starts like this to many times. Then can look like Koufax the next start.
 With Lee and Ramy in the middle of the lineup, the importance of Sori getting healthy and making adjustments for next year is huge.
 I wonder if the Nationals would trade Dunn for Bradley?
 I like the red caps Al, hey its for 9-11, and I think its just fine.

by Grockcubs on Sep 11, 2009 5:24 PM CDT reply actions  

First, Blue caps for such commerations

and holidays. Now, it’s red caos.

Obviously, white caps are in the future.

I think white caps would be much better and would cause minimal color conflict. Those Philly A’s caps that Oakland wore this year looked quite sharp. Sorry, I don’t have the time to post a pix right now….

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 11, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

A storms a'brewin!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 11, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

These?

I agree… white would be nice, and would clash with far fewer jerseys.

Follow me on twitter @andrewjstone.

by AndrewJStone on Sep 11, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Quite nice, and the 20’s unis were clean and sharp.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 11, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would be MUCH nicer looking.

The red caps… are just no good.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 11, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've had...

too many nightmares of players that are wearing red caps. They have to go.

by montecarlo on Sep 12, 2009 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I applaud this victory.

And I wish you all a pleasant evening.

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by daver on Sep 11, 2009 5:26 PM CDT reply actions  

My teenage son can wear

his Marmol jersey with pride yet another day :-)

by Cubbiefaithful on Sep 11, 2009 5:26 PM CDT reply actions  

is this winning streak

what we needed, or too little too late?

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 11, 2009 5:29 PM CDT reply actions  

It was the 10 game stretch

in LA, COL, and home to PHI…that destroyed us. If they had played even .500 during that stretch, these games would mean a lot.

Scott Bora$ is satan.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Sep 11, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats my concern

we had so many bad stretches, we are lucky to be able to sniff post season play right now. winning now is beyond important, and cannot afford any WTF-type loses

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 11, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know man

So many teams would have to suffer a complete collapse, and the Cubs would have to get their shit straight from now until the end of the season for them to sniff the WC. Whoever it was that said we should just go down fighting is right, and maybe that’s what this is. After such a long and arduous season, if we’re going to miss the post season, than I’d rather do so winning just to give us all something to look forward to next year.

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by Craig in South Bend on Sep 11, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, there isn't a realistic chance...

If we go 18-5 the rest of the way (which would be a ridiculous finish), the Rockies wouldn’t even need to play .500 ball to eliminate us.

Coolstandings has us at a 1/100 chance. That sounds about right. Technically it could happen, but it’d take a phenomenal run down the stretch AND several other things playing out just right.

It’s just frustrating to have been up a half game in the division in late July and then play sub-.500 ball from that point on. The playoffs were very obtainable, even with the poor first half.

by SouthernCub on Sep 11, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

That just added insult to injury.

The season really ended in SD, on that Monday night Gregg served up 4 runs with two outs in the 9th to the Padres.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 11, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree...

and i turned down tickets to the Padre game tonight (box seats with free food) because I can’t go back to PetCo this year. Too painful.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 11, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Free food is free food, after all.

There will only be about 20K, after all. EZ In N’ Out. Take the food.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 11, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never see wins in LA or SD

so, I’d have to completely stop going to ball games.

Take the food.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 11, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good God, don't remind me.

I agree with you. That has to be the most painful ball game I’ve ever been to.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 12, 2009 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Clarification:

I agree with you that that game is when our season ended.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 12, 2009 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dodgers Fading

Looks like that’s who everyone will be chasing in the wild card race…after a strong first 2 months, they’ve been very average.

I hate Manny, and Coletti for his horrible signings, and hope the Rockies chase them down.

Scott Bora$ is satan.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Sep 11, 2009 5:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Always nice to watch a win

Harden really making a case to be on a different team next season. I think his arm is just dead at this point from all the starts in a row- he isn’t exactly built for that.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Sep 11, 2009 5:44 PM CDT reply actions  

A little early to cross Stevens off the list.

He gave up two bloop singles and a homerun. It happens. He hasn’t been all that good in his first 10 big-league innings, but he was very good this year at Iowa (probably quite lucky, too: his ERA is 2.03; FIP takes out the boost from a low BABIP and high-ish strand rate and calls it 2.73; but even then his HR rate is unsustainably low) and has a good track record in the minors. That’s no guarantee of big-league success, but I wouldn’t cross him off the list just yet. He’ll have a chance to make the team next year.

by aldimond on Sep 11, 2009 6:04 PM CDT reply actions  

So will Aaron Miles.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 11, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

He sure will.

He’ll have a spot unless the Cubs find some way to get rid of him. I guess they’ve cut players making more money than Miles, so if he shows absolutely nothing in Spring Training maybe they’ll just cut him.

Stevens is different; he will have a chance to make the team, but he’ll have to perform. If he continues to struggle for the rest of this year and in Spring Training he’ll probably spend most of 2010 in Iowa.

by aldimond on Sep 11, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll be fairly surprised if Miles is back next year...

I suspect the Cubs will eat his salary at worst. With Baker providing solid offense and Blanco providing solid defense and the possibility that the team may still go after a 2B in free agency, that roster spot will be needed.

by SouthernCub on Sep 11, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have to agree...

They’ll eat a couple of million, and make this mistake go away.

by Damen Jackson on Sep 11, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

i just like the fact that he got his first

big league win today – went harden went out and he came in I was thinking he could give up two runs and still get the win – but I was wrong – did he get the shaving cream face pie after the game???

by doofus cubs guy on Sep 11, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stolen base

Got a kick out of Ramirez’s stolen base. It was his first this year; he was caught once.

by AboutTheCubs on Sep 11, 2009 7:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Sad.
with two more will move into second place on the 2009 Cub team list behind Derrek Lee. Think about that. 56 RBI is 2nd on the team, and Ramirez has about half the at-bats of the people he’s passing.

Where would we be if Rami hadn’t dislocated that shoulder… Sigh.

Just hope he gets whatever he needs this offseason (therapy, surgery whatever) and comes back on fire next year.

Jerry’s been so distant lately and Lovie barely calls.- Just Dave

by Allie on Sep 11, 2009 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Where would we be if Rami hadn’t dislocated that shoulder… Sigh.

i was thinking about that today, and got a little depressed

people who swing at the first pitch should get punched in the face

by jesus christos on Sep 11, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

He may have fallen into a slump at some point too

but I would imagine that a slumping Ramirez batting cleanup would have earned us some runs, which would have put us close to contention given how many 1 run losses we suffered this year.

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by Craig in South Bend on Sep 12, 2009 7:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Four in a row feels good - maybe it's happening?

Eamus Catuli from Bangkok

You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein

by eths on Sep 11, 2009 10:03 PM CDT reply actions  

How mant Baht for another Cubs win?

Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?

by BleedsbluinMI on Sep 12, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

cubs

lets hope the cubs keep beating up the lesser teams to secure a 2nd place finish.too late for the playoffs but 2 titles and a 2nd place finish will look good on anyones resume. want a good leadoff guy???? how about akinori from the rays. this guy would look good at second for the cubs. dont know if the rays will keep him or not.the rays dont draw 40thousand a day so they do have to watch their payroll.

by NOMAR on Sep 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT reply actions  

oh yeah

and what did fox do to piss pinella off? when your putting bobby scales in left something is up. if the defense issues are going to be a problem trade the guy to an a.l. team so he can dh.dont ruin the guys career

by NOMAR on Sep 12, 2009 7:31 AM CDT reply actions  

How's this for a birthday gift?

I never thought to get this for myself.

My aunt from Pittsburgh got me one of those street signs, and it reads “CHICAGO CUBS AVE”. I guess everyone knows where I live!

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 12, 2009 9:50 AM CDT reply actions  

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