Mark DeRosa open to returning to Chicago...

Just thought it was interesting... No matter what you think of the DeRosa trade, I think we can all agree it'd be nice if he didn't sign an extension with St. Louis.

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Ahh, Paul Sullivan

The very first sentence talks about Bradley. Glad he got it out of the way quickly.

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by Clutch16 on Sep 19, 2009 1:21 PM CDT reply actions

I'll stick with Jeff Baker, thanks.

The DeRo ship has sailed. He’s done a nice job of maintaining his home run swing this season, but his OBP has plummeted rather shockingly. Still seems like a great guy, but I don’t see him as a big threat.

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by daver on Sep 19, 2009 1:29 PM CDT reply actions

DeRosa has been hurt since he got to St. Louis.

He’s hit fairly well even with that.

That said, and I’m a big DeRo fan, 2009 was the year to have him in the last year of his contract here. He’ll be 35 next year. Unless he’s willing to take a two-year deal for not much more than he’s making now, I’d say let him go elsewhere.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 19, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions

I think that the odds of Penn beating Penn State in football

are better than the odds of DeRo re-signing with the Cubs.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 19, 2009 1:40 PM CDT reply actions

We need you to be on board with us. It's VITAL!

"It's hard to win 97 games, it's hard to win the division. Our attitude is if you get in every year, you get in most of the time, sooner or later you are going to knock that door down." -- Jim Hendry

by EJThunder on Sep 19, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions

I think I've made my position pretty clear...

I believe that the Cubs traded DeRo because Lou wanted him gone. (That also explains why they made no effort to get him back in mid-May when the Indians first dangled him and Ramy was on the DL.) Since it seems that Lou will be back next year, DeRo won’t be.

Right now, I’d say it’s 50-50 that DeRo is a Cardinal next year because I think they will try to sign him before other teams can talk to him.

If he makes it to the “open season”, I think he will be a Phillie next year.

The FA 3B class this year is pretty pathetic; that’s why I think the Cards will re-sign him early.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 20, 2009 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions

Man

Lou sure did play DeRo quite often considering he didn’t like him. I figured he’d get no playing time (like Fox, who many assume Lou doesn’t like), but I guess he begrudgingly inserted him in the lineup practically every day. Poor Lou had to go against his instincts pretty much everyday. I feel bad for the old man.

by shoemile on Sep 20, 2009 3:34 AM CDT up reply actions

I think Hendry ordered Lou to play DeRo...

Lou tried to bench DeRo for Riot in game #2 of the 2007 season. (The original lineup had Riot, but was changed.) I think that Hendry intervened. After that, Lou decided that — even if he had to play DeRo every day — he didn’t have to abide by the promise that DeRo would be the “everyday 2B”. That’s why DeRo was a nomad the last two seasons. (cf. TLR’s use of DeRo.)

Lou was willing to take Kaz Matsui (remember that?) if it meant that Hendry would trade DeRo. After the Matsui and Roberts acquisitions fell through, he had to keep him for 2008 — but maintaining his nomad status.

Lou got his wish last winter.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 20, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions

I dunno.

DeRo’s moving around with the Cubs was mostly due to injuries (primarily, to Soriano). WIth the Cardinals, their need was for a 3B, so that’s where he’s played most of his games.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 20, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions

Lou is willing to play Scales in LF,

a 2B with a rag arm. Why wasn’t he willing to play LBR, a 2B with a rag arm, in LF?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 20, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions

Or Baker...

… who probably has a better arm than either one of those two.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 21, 2009 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions

I don't see him with the Phillies.

Where would he play for them?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 20, 2009 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions

Pedro Feliz has a club option for 2010

I think the Phillies will pick up the option if DeRo re-signs with the Cards before FA; if DeRo is available, they will turn it down and go after DeRo. (They would prefer Feliz to someone like Crede, and they have too much money in other contracts to go after Figgins.)

The Phils wanted DeRo in 2006, but wouldn’t guarantee the third year. (They offered 2/$6.5M and ended up with the ghost of Wes Helms.) In 2007, they waited until the Brian Roberts trade fell through at the Winter Meetings before signing Feliz — they were hoping that DeRo would be available. In 2008, they offered a good pitching prospect (Happ?) for DeRo as part of the Peavy trade. They have been after him for a while.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 20, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions

What, exactly, do you base that theory on?

by kanderber on Sep 20, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions

I don't understand why this is even a story.

What free agent to be is going to say he wouldn’t be open to a team?
Just more garbage by the lazy Chicago writers.

by cubswin on Sep 19, 2009 1:49 PM CDT reply actions

well there are some cases where an FA might but not this one

Hell as soon as Mauddux was traded in 06 he said he was open to returning to the Cubs and there is zero chance
he would but most players know enough to just pretend. I imagine DeRo is sincere but that does not make it a good move.

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Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Sep 19, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions

There will be a player who went to Cleveland last off season returning to the Cubs.

Let me be the first to predict the Cubs get Kerry Wood back. Cleveland wants to get rid of the contract and the Cubs need a closer. Cleveland might eat quite a bit and the Cubs wouldn’t have to give up much.

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by puckishcubsfan on Sep 19, 2009 2:18 PM CDT reply actions

Carlos Marmol is our closer.

And the Indians have money troubles, so I doubt they’d eat much of anything.

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by daver on Sep 19, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions

Does anyone think....

… Wood could be a starter again, a la Smoltz? Granted, he doesn’t have Smoltz’s talent, but Smoltz did close for a couple years and then return to starting.

Wood has, at least, been 100% healthy this year.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 19, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions

Seems doubtful to me.

I thought the general consensus on Kerry was that his arm/shoulder would never support him being a starter again. It’s hard to picture him throwing anywhere near 100 pitches in a game.

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by daver on Sep 19, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions

Would Wood even want to?

I doubt it. But who knows.

"It's hard to win 97 games, it's hard to win the division. Our attitude is if you get in every year, you get in most of the time, sooner or later you are going to knock that door down." -- Jim Hendry

by EJThunder on Sep 19, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions

i guarantee you he'd want to

but he may not so he can lengthen his career.

It's not about money. It's about winning and getting over the hump. We've had the appetizer now, but we left the main course on the table.
-rod beck

by laidbackliam on Sep 19, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions

Unless...

… he could learn to retool himself as a finesse pitcher.

Here’s a real good example of a guy who did that in the 1960’s. And helped his team win a World Series in 1964.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 19, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions

Im not sold on marmol...

not enough control and “mental stability” to be the closer. I would be very nervous going into 2010 with marmol as the closer, especially if there isn’t a backup plan.

by cubsmania on Sep 19, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

I have said that about him

for months, and continue to agree with you about him

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 19, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't see...

Rachel Phelps being willing to take on any of the contract.

But given Soto’s struggles, I’d take Parkman in a heartbeat.

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by Kansas25 on Sep 19, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs

Parkman is a clubhouse cancer

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Sep 22, 2009 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions

Don't see Wood

Cleveland isn’t going to eat much … and the Cubs probably don’t have the room right now to fit Kerry’s contract and fill other needs. Now … when Kerry’s a FA again, a couple years down the line, maybe he finishes his career here. For now … no, don’t see it, but who knows.

by toonsterwu on Sep 19, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions

I can bet the farm Kerry will be back

But not this year.

I truly believe he will sign with the Cubs in 5 years (let’s hope he’s healthy in 5) and will finish his career in Chicago.

Maybe more of a dream but I hope that can happen.

by ak123 on Sep 19, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions

Well, he'll be 37 in five years.

I guess he could have a couple/few years of David Weathers-esque performances in the bullpen before retiring.

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by daver on Sep 19, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions

I can only hope so!

by ak123 on Sep 19, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions

wood for bradley?

by cubsmania on Sep 19, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions

I've heard stranger ideas.

Bradley played for the Indians before, so they know what they’d be getting. It might be a way to exchange contracts.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 19, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions

thats what I was thinking..

we don’t cut payroll at all but atleast we get a good clubhouse guy and a closer (I’m not sold on marmol).

by cubsmania on Sep 19, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions

wedge hated bradley

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Why?

by jesus christos on Sep 19, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions

Wedge could be fired when this season is over.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 20, 2009 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions

Wedge and Gameboard nearly came to blows in ST...

Gameboard was traded soon after.

Probably the best bet is Gameboard for Castillo, or Zito if the Giants remain desperate for offense.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 20, 2009 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions

gulp

Zito is pitching well this year, but…taking on that contract?

"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill

by vonde6 on Sep 20, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions

If Zito keeps pitching like this...

… the Giants will probably keep him.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 20, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions

He's a good lookin' guy, but I wouldn't go this far.

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by daver on Sep 20, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions

Largely no

I loved DeRosa here and wans’t big on the trade when it happened (although it wasn’t bad). Thing is, if Jeff Baker isn’t the starting 2nd baseman, he’ll fill, along with Jake Fox, utility/righty bat off the bench roles. There just isn’t a huge need for DeRosa.

I’ll leave out a tiny, tiny chance if

a) DeRosa can’t find a quality deal in the market

AND

b) Baker and/or Fox are dealt away.

In that situation, there may be a tiny chance, but it’s an awfully tiny chance.

by toonsterwu on Sep 19, 2009 3:37 PM CDT reply actions

Baker does, I would think, have some trade value.

"It's hard to win 97 games, it's hard to win the division. Our attitude is if you get in every year, you get in most of the time, sooner or later you are going to knock that door down." -- Jim Hendry

by EJThunder on Sep 19, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions

sure

but dealing Baker (or Fox) doesn’t really clear money … so you would only move them if it’s for a valuable asset that can start (obviously, as a package) because otherwise they are more useful to us as backups.

by toonsterwu on Sep 19, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions

Does St. Louis want Bradley?

by Matt Geiger on Sep 19, 2009 4:06 PM CDT reply actions

I doubt it

They are going to go all-out in trying to resign Holliday, which will eat up most of their funds. If they get Holliday resigned, look for them to maybe bring back DeRosa and hope the system can provide some bats (Allen Craig for example) that can be useful, akin to how Jake Fox was useful for us this year.

Even if they fail to sign Holliday … I’m not sure Bradley is the type of guy they’d go after.

by toonsterwu on Sep 19, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions