September Begins With Win: Bradley, Wells Lead Cubs To 4-1 Triumph
by Al on Sep 2, 2009 7:30 AM CDT
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Since I have been critical of Milton Bradley many times on this site, let me praise him this morning.
Bradley homered and singled and raised his batting average (.269) and OPS (.823) to season highs and helped lead the Cubs to a 4-1 win over the Astros on another chilly night at Wrigley Field. The announced crowd of 36,332 probably included 10,000 no-shows, and the season average dipped under 40,000 for the first time in a couple of months (now 39,982, if the Cubs maintain that average for the 16 remaining home games -- and they probably won't -- they'll draw about 100,000 fewer than they did in 2008).
Anyway, nice work, Milton -- and he continues his hot hitting, now 14-for-30 (.467) with three homers since the Cubs came home on August 25. He's also drawn five walks and scored 11 runs in the eight games so far on this homestand. Keep up the good work!
The other good story from last night's game belongs to Randy Wells, and in fact, that's the feel-good story for the entire season. I don't think a single one of us would have predicted, back in March, that Wells would start 21 games for the major league Cubs in 2009, much less win 10, rank eighth in the NL in ERA (2.90), or become a solid Rookie of the Year candidate (he likely won't win, as J.A. Happ of the Phillies has been better). Wells threw 6.2 solid innings, scattering seven hits -- all singles -- and allowed only an unearned run which wouldn't have scored at all if Jeff Baker had managed to hang on to Koyie Hill's throw trying to catch Kaz Matsui stealing in the seventh inning. It's too bad he can't face the Astros again, because he's thrown 20.2 innings against them, given them 17 hits -- all singles -- and just the one unearned run from last night.
Derrek Lee and Alfonso Soriano scored the other two runs last night; Lee should have had two doubles, but the first of the two times he reached base -- on a fly ball that Hunter Pence had go in and out of his glove -- was initially ruled a double, then changed to an error.
And, credit also to the bullpen, which, after starting the year very shaky, has suddenly allowed nothing at all the last few days. John Grabow, Kevin Gregg and Carlos Marmol allowed no runs and just a single walk in 2.1 innings. Marmol, in particular, looked like the lights-out Marmol of old. His mechanics seemed far better, and after a leadoff single to Pence, he struck out the side to end the game.
With 32 games remaining in the season, the Cubs' task to overtake four teams for the wild card is still daunting. They still trail the Rockies by six (five in the loss column), but are creeping up on moving ahead of one of those teams, the Marlins; with Florida's loss to the Braves last night, the Cubs are only one game behind the Marlins (and even with them in the loss column).
Just keep winning. That's all we can ask. Today's game preview will post at 11:30 am CDT.
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First?
Nice win last night.
Chicago
Cubs
We are the better CC.
by Zy Toro Young on Sep 2, 2009 7:33 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Yes!!!
My first ‘first’. I wanna thank… myself.
Chicago
Cubs
We are the better CC.
by Zy Toro Young on Sep 2, 2009 7:36 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Congratulations
Your life purpose is now fulfilled. You can die a happy man.
"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray
by Archie on Sep 2, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now put some thought into it.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Sep 2, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree Wells won't have enough for ROY.
Might have been interesting if he had won more of those hard-luck games when he first came up.
by the nth on Sep 2, 2009 7:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He might have a shot...
… but only if he has a lights-out September and Happ fails.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Sep 2, 2009 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 wins?
Is it possilbe for the Cubs to win 2 games in row before losing 3-4 games in row.And why is Fuku not leading off?
by dhouse on Sep 2, 2009 7:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If only
there was such a thing as a happy Milton. I like the work the bullpen has done lately.
If we could ever get a consistent offense, we might still have a chance. If its good enough for Mr. Christmas its good enough for me.
Chicago
Cubs
We are the better CC.
by Zy Toro Young on Sep 2, 2009 7:49 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Why do you have to start off this post with negative comments about Bradley?
He’s playing well and guys like you still can’t let it be. It’s obnoxious.
by smash! on Sep 2, 2009 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I can’t stand Bradley the player but that wasn’t warranted.
I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT
by cubsluver22 on Sep 2, 2009 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems we should never mention politics, religion or Milton Bradley in polite conversation.
At least not around here.
"Fasten your seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Sep 2, 2009 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Basically
I said I wish things were better. How is that unwarranted?
Chicago
Cubs
We are the better CC.
by Zy Toro Young on Sep 2, 2009 8:10 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Ive never said anything
Negative about Bradley, don’t throw me in that group. I’ve been supporting him all year just like any other player.
That statement was meant to bash him. I wish he didn’t have any problems so he can avoid all the conteversy and just play, which he does well.
Chicago
Cubs
We are the better CC.
by Zy Toro Young on Sep 2, 2009 8:07 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you know by now not to say his name unless you want people to jump all over you.
I think I know what you mean though. It seems he may thrive on controversy. Which I personally wish wasn’t the case. I’d rather not have all the sideshows and distractions.
"Fasten your seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Sep 2, 2009 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I cant say his name.
I thought I was safe though because I didn’t think I could obnoxious and negative while still throwing in a Dumb and Dumber reference in the same post.
Chicago
Cubs
We are the better CC.
by Zy Toro Young on Sep 2, 2009 8:22 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I think you should just refrain...
… from saying things like “I wish there was such a thing as a happy Milton” directly after a game where he played well and displayed no unhappiness. You got your wish last night!
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by AndrewJStone on Sep 2, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MB has been playin well of late, which is Great!!!
Increase that trade value for the off-season!
The sun will shine in '69
by gaclaudy on Sep 2, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad most people on here aren't GMs.
There’d be nobody left… we’d have ditched our entire outfield at some point during or just prior to this season, everybody who’s touched 2B or shortstop since DeRosa left, our first baseman in July, both of our catchers at some point, our entire bullpen, and everyone who has touched the starting rotation save for Lilly and Wells.
You are aware that there is only one Pujols, perfect both on and off the field, right? And that beyond that one dude, every team has its share of malcontents, slumpy hitters, redic contracts, and generally dumb individuals.
You are advocating ridding ourselves of one of the more productive players the team has. A dude who has been SHOWN here to be statistically playing at a level above his contract. A guy who may rub you the wrong way, but tries hard and seems to care.
I dare say if we had a team of MB’s, we’d be better off than we are right now… and i mean both in play and in contract situations.
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by AndrewJStone on Sep 2, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
Over-reacting is rewarded on the ol’ bulletin board. If they haven’t done anything for us lately, ship ’em out.
The same goes for reaction to Lou’s moves. I think that Lou has more patience than many here would like. He also has a boss to answer to that we don’t, and some of his moves might have longer-term goals than winning today’s game. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, because he is my personal Cubs MVP for 2007 and 2008. I think that he brought a winning attitude to this team that was sorely lacking, and in following the Cubs for forty years, I have only seen on rare occasions.
"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
by vonde6 on Sep 2, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure we want a happy Milton
Let the man be angry. He does better when he’s angry.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
by Worf on Sep 2, 2009 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure seems that way
"Fasten your seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Sep 2, 2009 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
new to this board
Been here alot reading and finally decided to post. cant stand the cubs.com board, too much bickering. anyway, I am not saying that Wells is the next Maddux, but he is that type of pitcher. relies on control and placement more than power or stuff. definitely THE bright spot for the cubs this year. I was at the game in ATL when he had a no-no in the 7th and we blew it a 6 run lead for him w/ errors and bullpen.
by imacubman on Sep 2, 2009 7:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Welcome aboard...
There isn’t much bickering here. o_0
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Sep 2, 2009 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree. :)
"Fasten your seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Sep 2, 2009 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Says who?
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Sep 2, 2009 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its all in good fun.
Beats work.
Chicago
Cubs
We are the better CC.
by Zy Toro Young on Sep 2, 2009 8:25 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome aboard, and I agree about Randy Wells.
But what is this “bickering” you speak of?
Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.
by dat cubfan daver on Sep 2, 2009 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shut up you fool.
"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray
by Archie on Sep 2, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am Inspector Closeau, yew fewl.
Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.
by dat cubfan daver on Sep 2, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
non!
Ieee hem Inspeeecour Clouseau!
"I’m not going to allow Al Yellon to flush this thing down the crapper without a fight." (BLOU)
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Sep 2, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome. Enjoy the site.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Sep 2, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
with a little offense
Wells could easily have be a 17-18 game winner this year.
I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT
by cubsluver22 on Sep 2, 2009 7:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
At least over a 13-game winner...
Which would make him the winningest Cub rookie pitcher? I believe Kerry had 13.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Sep 2, 2009 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wells games at the beginning of the year
5/8 no decision – 5IP 0ER
5/16 no decision – 6IP 0ER
5/23 L (0-1) – 7IP 3ER
5/28 L (0-2) – 7IP 2ER
6/2 ND – 7IP 1ER left game with 5-1 lead
6/7 ND – 6 2/3IP 2ER left game with 1 run lead
Then another tough luck outing a couple weeks ago:
8/21 L (9-6) – 6 2/3 IP 0ER (2R)
Arguably should have at least 5 more wins there. Interestingly, June 7th was the last no decision that Wells has had. He has picked up a win or a loss in every game that he has pitched since then.
Excluding his first start where he was pulled after 84 pitches having given up no runs, Wells has pitched at least 6 innings in all but 3 of his other 24 starts. He has given up less than 3 runs in these outings 19 of 24 times. That is giving your team a great chance to win when you take the ball. I have been VERY impressed with this guy this year. He arguably should be 15-7 or so instead of the 10-7 that he is so far. Let’s hope that his sophomore campaign is just as good.
"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray
by Archie on Sep 2, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, great research.
This team’s inability to plate runs has hurt Wells and, well, the team.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 2, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wasn't Baker
the one who missed the Throw by Koyie Hill? At least that’s what Len and Bob were saying, I wasn’t watching at the time, HW srry :/
"It doesn't matter what country someone's from, or what they look like, or the color of their skin. It doesn't matter what they smell like, or that they spell words slightly differently some would say more correctly. I'm a person. Bret's a person. You're a person. That person over there is a person. And each person deserves to be treated like a person. "
by Rhymenocerous on Sep 2, 2009 8:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You're right.
It was Baker. I’ll fix the post.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Sep 2, 2009 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm happy to have turned the calendar page from August to September.
Hoping this is the start of an exciting month.
"Fasten your seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Sep 2, 2009 8:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
cubs =
completely unbeatable by september
by doofus cubs guy on Sep 2, 2009 8:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hm, not sure that makes sense - but nice effort.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 2, 2009 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's just a better saying
than some of those Cardinals fans have on their shirts when we’re there.
by Fonzie2178 on Sep 2, 2009 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, naturally.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 2, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No kidding!
I just hope that doofus cubs guy is right…
by Fonzie2178 on Sep 2, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One down and 24 to go...
This I hope is the start of something good. Listening to the WGN radio archive of yesterday’s game via mlb.com here at work made me feel very optimistic about today’s game.
The sad thing is, I won’t be around over the weekend and between the 10th and 20th of Sept. and will not during this period have any internet access, so I’ll miss a lot of the (hopefully) upcoming streak.
Eamus Catuli
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Sep 2, 2009 8:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The bullpen
really has been impressive lately. Marmol did give up a single last night, but it seems he is doing a much better job of not panicking when someone gets on base. It’s nice to know the Carlos from last year is almost back.
by bamix1 on Sep 2, 2009 8:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can someone confirm something?
I believe I heard Pat and Ron mention last night that John Grabow’s 16 scoreless appearances sets a team record for a newly acquired relief pitcher. Did anyone else hear this?
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 2, 2009 8:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I did - I think they
mentioned it first when he came in – that 15 was a record – so he added to his own record last night
by doofus cubs guy on Sep 2, 2009 8:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wells
just continues to impress, who would of thought it?
Sori’s knee still seems to bother him. Running the bases gingerly, and the strikeout in the 7th he looked like he hardly put any pressure on his knee at all.
Last night Milton had great patience at the plate, when he takes a few pitches he really gets zoned in.
Theriot needs a day off or two, hope Blanco is in the lineup today.
by Grockcubs on Sep 2, 2009 9:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
When are the Cardinals gonna lose?
Anybody know a good witch or a Santero? This is getting pretty ridiculous.
I understand there’s little to no chance to fight for the division, but still…
by chilango2 on Sep 2, 2009 9:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe in the NLDS.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 2, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weltuntergangsstimmung as well...
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Sep 2, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about "nomesteschingandocontualemancabron"?
by chilango2 on Sep 2, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Rechtsschutzversicherungsgesellschaftsbevollmächtigtenvertrauensperson will visit you
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Sep 2, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry
The Phillies are waiting. Cole Hamels is superman again.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Sep 2, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lineup
Funny you mention the Cubs high water mark when they beat Cincinatti on August 4th to go 57-49, that is also the day Soto came off of the DL and also the day in which Lou changed the lineup around moving Fukudome from leadoff to 5 and letting Theriot 2 (is it me or does he always have an 0-2 count against him). Yes Bradley has raked from the 2 spot, but I would rather him toil down in the lineup and have the Cubs winning games. They were 13-5 after the all star break with the lineup being
Fukudome
Theriot
Lee
Ramirez
Bradley
Soriano
Baker/Fontenot
Hill
Soto comes back and he puts Bradley in the 2 hole drops Kosuke to the 5 spot, and moves Theriot to the leadoff spot, and since then it has been a struggle to score runs. It is not coincidence that was when the slide happened, hey I am even up for putting Bradley in the 3 spot and dropping everyone down a notch with whoever plays 2B batting 7th and C batting 8th. But the above lineup and good pitching is why the Cubs were the hottest team coming out of the gate ion the 2nd half, and i do not know why they have not gone back to it,
by victophine on Sep 2, 2009 9:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
good point.
interesting
"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray
by Archie on Sep 2, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theriot sucks
Lots of first pitch swinging and lots of strikeouts. Of course nobody cares because he isn’t Bradley, Soriano, or Zambrano.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Sep 2, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What you say about my scrappy?!!!
"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray
by Archie on Sep 2, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I’m not going to allow Al Yellon to flush this thing down the crapper without a fight." (BLOU)
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Sep 2, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lower expectations, too.
Plus, I think he’s just hitting the wall in terms of endurance.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 2, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that endurance thing is true
That marks the second time in three seasons Theriot hasn’t been able to handle a full MLB season. Shouldn’t that be addressed?
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Sep 2, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It could/should have been addressed by having a real backup shortstop.
And that’ brings us back to Aaron Miles…
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 2, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sigh.
Well, I’d like to see Andres Blanco starting a few games in the next week or so, give Theriot a breather.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Sep 2, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 2, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Count me in
"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
by vonde6 on Sep 2, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That gets my vote.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Sep 2, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny how all bad things end up in his lap deservedly so in my book
But I agree to an extent. Theriot needs some days off, but his fitness level should be where he can handle the rigors of a 162 game season.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Sep 2, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And it hasn't even been that hot this summer!
I’m sure Ryan would deny the theory. I mean, who knows, maybe he’s more mentally exhausted than physically. But if that’s the case,batting him in the leadoff spot is all that much worse of a move.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 2, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Riot at the top of the order is the chief reason why we are struggling.
Hacking away constantly, low pitch/ab and the OBP is pretty bad too. And yet, as the sun is out today, he will still be leading off today and tomorrow and etc…
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
by KaliCub on Sep 2, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't think Bradley was a 3-hitter
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
by Worf on Sep 2, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you were at the game last night...
As lame as I initially thought it was….did anyone else even bother with the baseball bingo cards that were handed out?
Although I figure most were virtually impossible to get all 24 requirements, it actually helped move along on otherwise uneventful game save for a few Cubs runs.
Randy Wells’ outstanding performance helped the bingo sponser of Kimberly Clark get quite a bit of action. Everyone I saw in my section seemed to be paying attention to the bingo game.
I’m interested to know if anyone got all the requirements…we fell just 4 short on one card.
by AGC on Sep 2, 2009 9:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bingo Cards at a Ball Game?
::shudder::
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Sep 2, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW... they were a constant theme...
…of Len and Bob’s broadcast.
Bob had “fair ball gets stuck in the ivy” on his card.
by fsuapollo on Sep 2, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I did it.
There was at least one space on each card (I had three of them) which, as said above, was nearly impossible to get.
I’m guessing they had very few winners.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Sep 2, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that one was brutal
but the card we only missed 4 on were run and hit related.. 12 or more runs.. 3 or more runs in an inning, 20 or more hits
I think the other was sacrifice fly or intentional BB, I forget.
by AGC on Sep 2, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pat & Ron never mentioned them
I think…
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Sep 2, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way to go Milton!
Now that the pressure is off.
Now how ‘bout doing that starting in, say, I don’t know…April?!
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Sep 2, 2009 9:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If he had a great April
and a terrible August/September people would complain about him “fading when the games matter most.”
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Sep 2, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tune in next season - same Cubs time, same Cubs channel.
Uh, assuming he’s not traded.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 2, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh wait April, May, and June don't count
Just ask around the board, those months don’t count because those aren’t near his Career Norm so those can be thrown out.
The sun will shine in '69
by gaclaudy on Sep 2, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone actually said this?
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 2, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
but straw men arguments are SO MUCH EASIER to defeat…
"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray
by Archie on Sep 2, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 2, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Image fail?
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Sep 2, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Works on my screen.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 2, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here, I think this is what you were trying to do.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Sep 2, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the image I posted.
It doesn’t show up for you?
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 2, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
I found it at another site.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Sep 2, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha ha - I just got pwned.
Now that I’ve refreshed my screen, I get one of those “image linked without permission” messages. Clearly, there are many dangers to a strawman argument.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 2, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe it has been stated several times by
Kalicub and drewisddrewid, along with others, that if you take out April his numbers are close to his Career Norm. Same people have said that his numbers after the all-star break are in line with his Career Norm and that is what we should expect from him, so we need to stop making such a big deal about his cold start.
Are you telling me you didn’t read statement to that effect?
Of course not, and now you will want a link to those statements, and I’m too lazy to actually search for them so please disregard my statements.
The sun will shine in '69
by gaclaudy on Sep 2, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But in saying that
no one is saying that those numbers don’t count. What is being said is that you can’t judge a 3 year contract by numbers in one or two months. Don’t judge the player’s worth by looking at a couple of months; particularly where those months (good or bad) are far out of line with his normal production. Yes they count. Yes, they hurt the team. No, they don’t indicate the value of Milton Bradley over the next 2 1/2 (at the time) years of his contract. What we are seeing from him right now is precisely why you don’t judge a player on two months. Water almost always returns to its level.
Incidentally, I have a concern with Wells on precisely this basis. Is his career in the minors a better indicator of what to expect in the future, or his one really good (and out of line with expectations) year this year. Maybe he just figured something out mentally. He’s to hoping.
"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray
by Archie on Sep 2, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no one
has suggested that his april was not good. What has been suggested is that if you look at his performance this year, he has consistently improved.
You are ascribing intent where there is none.
Here’s what coversations with you are like:
You: BRADLEY SUCKS!
Us: Well, he had a bad April and a mediocre May/June, but July and August have been pretty good, especially the end of august.
You: IT DOESN’T MATTER, HE SUCKS! HE WAS BROUGHT HERE TO DRIVE IN RUNS!
Us: Look at his OBP. He’s getting on base at a huge rate, which means he’s there to be driven in by other players, and isn’t scoring runs the most important thing?
You: IT DOESN’T MATTER! HE SUCKS! HE’S A WIFE ABUSER!
Us: He was never arrested, and both parties made calls to the police. They’re divorced now. Why does that matter anyway?
You: IT DOESN’T MATTER, HE SUCKS! HE’S A BRAWLER AND MAKES TOO MANY SCENES ON THE FIELD!
Us: He’s been kicked out of one game, arguably on a call he got jobbed on, and the suspension was reduced to a single game.
You: IT DOESN’T MATTER, HE SUCKS! LOU CALLED HIM A SH!T HEAD!
Us: And apologized for it.
You: IT DOESN’T MATTER, HE SUCKS! HIS DEFENSE IS CRAPPY!
Us: Actually, he’s just into negative territory on his UZR, he’s pretty close to average, and his career numbers are pretty good.
You: IT DOESN’T MATTER< HE SUCKS! UHHHHH!! HE SUCKS!
"I’m not going to allow Al Yellon to flush this thing down the crapper without a fight." (BLOU)
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Sep 2, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 9 recs
Rec'd.
And i wish i could do it twice.
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by AndrewJStone on Sep 2, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll pitch in
"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
by vonde6 on Sep 2, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets turn that green
since I have been ignoring gaclaudy all morning and yet get called out on something I NEVER said.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
by KaliCub on Sep 2, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I apologize for stating my opinion, I will ensure not to do it agree
Please delete all posts that I have made since I am an idiot and don’t understand baseball.
I am a lousy fan and will not voice anything again.
Please enjoy website and I did not mean to cause you problems by having a opinion that was different than you.
I now understand that all TRUE FANS most like all players on the team, unless stated otherwise by select indiviual. You may not dislike anyone player, unless it is approved by the correct personnel.
Once again Al, please delete all my post as they were inapporiate.
Thank you
The sun will shine in '69
by gaclaudy on Sep 2, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where is that unrec button you wanted?
Just kidding!!! :)
Although you can lump me in that “doesn’t matter” category if you want to.
"Fasten your seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Sep 2, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's not up to me
to lump you into a category. I just think that it’s possible to have a nuanced conversation about Bradley. Yes, he allows himself to get baited into arguments with the press. Yes, his april stunk on ice. Yes, he needs to control his temper.
But, he’s also been quite productive for the Cubs this year, especially after the all-star break. But, his relationship with his ex-wife has nothing to do with his play on the field. But, it doesn’t matter if the RBIs are produced by his bat, or by someone else’s bat driving him in.
Personally, I like him. I like people who stand up for themselves. It’s one reason I like Z so much. That doesn’t mean I don’t like Lee or Rami or Sori or Dome, who are less… voluble.
"I’m not going to allow Al Yellon to flush this thing down the crapper without a fight." (BLOU)
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Sep 2, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well personally, I don't like him.
I prefer those less …voluble (actually I think the word volatile is more accuarate) guys like Lee and Rami. And there isn’t much anyone can say to change that opinion. So I guess that means I somewhat agree with what you said above. However, just because I don’t personally like a player doesn’t mean I am not rooting for him.
"Fasten your seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Sep 2, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally, I don't care one way or the other
if he’s the Albert Schweitzer of baseball or if he spends all day chasing kids off his front lawn. If he can play, that’s OK by me.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 2, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't matter as long as his OBP is up
Whatever, I will no longer post anything about Bradley, as I am not worthy to comment about him or have an impressions on a player.
Please provide of subjects that are acceptable for me to comment on.
The sun will shine in '69
by gaclaudy on Sep 2, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He will do
that for us next April.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Sep 2, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been waiting for Wells to blow up since he got here
and he has taken his beatings a couple of time but he has shown a great ability to bounce back. He isn’t taking batters off any longer and he’s certainly one of the few bright spots on this Cubs team.
Anybody else see Dome and Milton joking around right when the game ended? I would love to know what those two talk about.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Sep 2, 2009 9:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Muppet conversations
"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
by vonde6 on Sep 2, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Inside Scoop
Dome’s favorite is cookie monster, Milton’s is Elmo.
"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
by vonde6 on Sep 2, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have guessed Oscar for Milton.
"Fasten your seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Sep 2, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There you go
Going negative
"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
by vonde6 on Sep 2, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
couldn't resist
"Fasten your seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Sep 2, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I saw that too.
They were both smiling and I would love to know what was said.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Sep 2, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some contradiction in the recap above.
John Grabow, Kevin Gregg and Carlos Marmol allowed no hits…
…and after a leadoff single to Pence, [Marmol] struck out the side to end the game.
Good pitching beats good hitting, and vice versa.
by tibbelkrunk on Sep 2, 2009 9:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd guess Al meant "runs" not "hits."
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 2, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that's what I meant.
Man, I’m tired. I’ll fix the post.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Sep 2, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Al
You do a great job here and we all really do appreciate the work. There are FAR less errors like this than most of us (I know I speak for myself) would have if we ran the site.
Thanks again for your work.
"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray
by Archie on Sep 2, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT
Anyone see the Dodger/DBack game last night? A fan flew a remote control airplane around the stadium for about 30 seconds b4 it finally crashed. No one knew who was doing it. Our ol’ buddy Augie Ojeda tore the plane up after it crashed.
I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT
by cubsluver22 on Sep 2, 2009 9:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LMAO - that's a new one.
Look, I am in no way condoning this outrageous and disrespectful stunt, but…well…I laughed.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 2, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love how Vin Scully mentions at the end that it could become a "bad habit" at the ballpark
Bc I could see a legion of remote control airplanes flying around Dodger Stadium one night (wonder what Marty Brenneman would think).
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Sep 2, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm surprised it hasn't happened before (assuming it hasn't).
It could definitely be dangerous if the plane is up in the air when a player is trying to catch a fly ball, so I’m seriously not condoning the stunt. Just the image of that thing buzzing around while the game is going on struck me as funny. It would’ve been even funnier had it been a D’Backs-Pirates game or something.
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 2, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What would have happened if a ball had actually hit that little plane?
What would the umpires have ruled?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Sep 2, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fan interference by proxy?
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by dat cubfan daver on Sep 2, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet that the reason it hasn't happened
is the difficulty in getting something like that into the ballpark. You have to think that it would be confiscated if anyone tried to bring it in. And where would you hide something that big? I can’t believe that whoever it was actually got it through the gate. I’ll bet that the gate agents are read the riot act this morning and that NOTHING gets in for a few days at least.
"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray
by Archie on Sep 2, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It seems like it would be easy
You just need to get the controller through the gate. One guy launches the plane out in the parking lot with a remote control. His buddy with another remote gets into the park and takes over as it flies over the right field bleachers.
"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
by vonde6 on Sep 2, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that I am condoning this sort of behavior
"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
by vonde6 on Sep 2, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marty would find a way to blame Cub fans
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Sep 2, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I found it pretty funny! It will tried again and again though I’d bet, at which time it will get annoying.
I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT
by cubsluver22 on Sep 2, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Geovany Soto's Sophomore Jinx
Courtesy of Fangraphs…
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/geovany-sotos-sophomore-jinx
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Sep 2, 2009 10:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It was a fun game.
Nice to get the win. Keep doing that, and good things will happen.
"I’m not going to allow Al Yellon to flush this thing down the crapper without a fight." (BLOU)
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Sep 2, 2009 10:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I had to...
… scroll up and down and compare a few times (like that trashy bar game!) to determine that the Randy Wells picture on this post wasn’t the same picture as the one on the first pitch thread directly below it.
Same face, teeth, uni, pose… Uncanny! Eventually realized his long sleeve shirt was pulled up to the elbows in one and not the other.
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by AndrewJStone on Sep 2, 2009 11:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Preview for today's game is up
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2009/9/2/1011953/ricketts-shark-and-what-else-peavy
You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein
by eths on Sep 2, 2009 11:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice game last night.
Wells has been a pleasant surprise in an otherwise disappointing year so far.
Keep up the goood work Milton. I think he will be a major contributor for us next year.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Sep 2, 2009 11:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Have to win today and then...
go 12-3 up to the StL series in order to have a realistic shot b/c those games at SF later in the month will be rough.
by EamuCanoli on Sep 2, 2009 12:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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