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A column by one of the managing editors at the Daily Herald praising Bruce for the professional way he broke the Milton Bradley story over the weekend.

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That's a little self-referential, don't you think?

I thought this comment was particularly insightful:

The Milton Bradley story reminds me of Don Henley’s great little shot at newspaper writers, “Dirty Laundry.” “Kick em when they’re up, kick em when their down.”A moody and petulant sports star like Milton Bradley who is having a bad year and works for a dysfunctional organization that has no clue how to deal with either his funk or his slump is an easy target for today’s sports journalists.

No matter what question is asked in the locker room, it’s probably a losing proposition for Bradley. If he says “no comment,” he’s lambasted for being uncooperative and unfriendly. If he tells the truth as he sees it, which in this case reeks of the chip on his shoulder, he’s lambasted in the press and suspended by his general manager. Bradley is just not a happy guy, even when he’s playing well, so why expect him to be anything different than what he is, an overpaid man playing a kids game having an embarrassing season. And he knows that journalists are not friends or trusted confidantes; just hired guns who have stories to write that entertain the masses who live otherwise dull or problem-ridden lives and welcome reading about the dumb things that millionaire ballplayers say or do.

"I’m not going to allow Al Yellon to flush this thing down the crapper without a fight." (BLOU)
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Sep 24, 2009 4:56 PM CDT reply actions  

So now you're blasting Bruce Miles for doing his job well?

Geez, Drew, who are you, Bradley’s agent? I just cannot see how you can continue to defend this man.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 24, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT

by cubsluver22 on Sep 24, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

no. I’m suggesting that having Miles’ editor write a column praising him is… incestuous at best. Being a professional reporter means making sure you have a story that sells papers. that’s it.

"I’m not going to allow Al Yellon to flush this thing down the crapper without a fight." (BLOU)
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Sep 24, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

You rarely see a piece like that.

Thus, I’d say it’s justified, especially regarding a standup guy like Bruce.

Wow, Drew, you’ll really blast ANYTHING criticizing Milton Bradley, won’t you?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 24, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

you are

projecting.

There’s a reason you rarely see a piece like it.

"I’m not going to allow Al Yellon to flush this thing down the crapper without a fight." (BLOU)
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Sep 24, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is no different than an omsbudman for a newspaper.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Sep 24, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess you don't read much

Because papers do this type of thing all the time.

As for Bradley, the war’s over man. You lost. Bradley’s getting kicked out of Chicago. He didn’t just throw up in front of the team and fans, he threw up ON the team and fans.

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Sep 24, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Al, have you not been paying attention this year?

Drew doesn’t like anyone criticizing ANYTHING Cub.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 24, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only thing different Here is...

All her little supporters are chiming in. They don;t have much to say when they can’t gang up on 1 poster for saying anything negative about the Cubs or their performance.

I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT

by cubsluver22 on Sep 25, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aren't I meant to type

I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT

by cubsluver22 on Sep 25, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Miles is a good writer and good for him for breaking this story.

I think you are just irritatied because you have been proven completely wrong in your support for Bradley.

by TJ11 on Sep 24, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dear Drew,

I’ve tried not to take your bait for a while now, but I can’t contain myself any more.

You have no clue on how a newspaper is run. This is pretty common in every paper in every market, be it the New York Times or the Dubuque Telegraph-Herald. Journalists commenting on other journalist’s work is part of the trade. Especially if the paper is instrumental in breaking a story.

I’ll reserve any other commentary pertaining to your opinion toward [name redacted] to myself. Before you bash a profession, make sure you know what you’re talking about.

Signed,
Jose M. Hernandez-Lagunes
Master of Arts, 2005, Public Affairs Reporting
Columbia College Chicago

by chilango2 on Sep 24, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

so is Al right

or are you? Is it rare? Or is it “pretty common”?

Either way, I think I hope that the editor didn’t break his arm, patting his own staff on the back.

"I’m not going to allow Al Yellon to flush this thing down the crapper without a fight." (BLOU)
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Sep 24, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've been an MB defender to a degree

But c2 is absolutely correct. Stories like this are pretty common in newspapers.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 24, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, they are.

And in any case, how could anyone object to an article like this, praising a class act like Bruce Miles?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 24, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, did you actually read that?
I think I hope that the editor didn’t break his arm, patting his own staff on the back.

That is so laughable, the word “laughable” doesn’t even begin to describe how laughable it is.

Patting his “own staff” is not analogous to patting “himself” on the back. If you can’t see that . . . wow.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 24, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

So if your boss praises you in public, is that innapropriate?

Doing your job means making sure you add value to your company so it makes money. That’s it.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 24, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

And no, that's not how your comment reads. At all.
I’m suggesting that having Miles’ editor write a column praising him is… incestuous at best.

It reads as Bruce is just one of the big, bad media out to get poor Milton.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 24, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

considering how long he fought for Soriano to stay in the starting lineup

after everyone else knew he should sit, does this really surprise you?

I give Drew his props for consistency, when he “adopts” a player, he fights tooth and nail like an angry mama bear for that player, but his blindspots are….at best, laughable.

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Sep 24, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

But its gotten sickening

I’m too the point where I believe Drew does what he does for attention!

I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT

by cubsluver22 on Sep 24, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

you know

I wasn’t on this site for days. I’d hoped you’d figured it out. It’s past flattering, and in to creepy.

"I’m not going to allow Al Yellon to flush this thing down the crapper without a fight." (BLOU)
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Sep 24, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those...

Were some great days!

I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT

by cubsluver22 on Sep 24, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

He's been wrong before?

I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT

by cubsluver22 on Sep 25, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I read this differently

This was an opportunity for an editor to give a writer public praise for not only a good story, but for handling in a particularly professional way. Miles could have easily buried Bradley, and although he didn’t go out of his way to defend him, he let the story carry itself. There’s nothing wrong with the way Miles handled the story, and nothing wrong with the editor praising him publicly.

"Enough foreplay- let's get crackin'"- Fred Garvin

by davidalanu on Sep 24, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holy shit drew, give it a f-in rest.

You’re the lone soldier in a war. Not a battle, a war. Give up.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Sep 24, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait, wouldn't that make it a conspiracy?

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 24, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I got the sense that the columnist is insinuating other beat writers aren't doing their job with "class"

Which I figured would be something you’d rally around, instead of finding fault with it.

by shoemile on Sep 25, 2009 1:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, please.

All he was doing was praising one of his own staff.

You can take your tinfoil hat off now.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 25, 2009 7:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think shoemile is actually in the same camp that the rest of us are, Al

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2009 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm.

Maybe so, but I didn’t take the column as a slam at other writers, simply praise for his own guy.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 25, 2009 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I don't agree entirely with his/her comment, either

But it wasn’t Oliver Stone-like.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think the point of the column is to slam other writers

I just got the sense that he was stating Miles is doing the job right, and a few others possibly might not be, but that’s just my opinion. I had no problems with the article.

by shoemile on Sep 25, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

And he posts on BCB!!

Weeee!

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Sep 24, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree and I'm

glad his company appreciates him.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Sep 25, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

too much hyperbole

he could get over himself with the “bad year” and “overpaid man playing a kids game having an embarassing season” crap.

Bruce did a professional job. Something which has lacked from the Sun Times and Tribune this season covering MB. There could be nothing else said about the job Bruce did—very commendable work.

by socalbob on Sep 24, 2009 5:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Precisely.

Rec’d.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 24, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe because

of how well-repsected Bruce is and how fair he has been, that Milton actually trusted him as someone he would talk to.

And I am not insinuating that Bruce baited him and then burned him. They peobably had a candid conversation and Bruce did his job.

Maybe Bruce could come on here and tell us how this transpired after MB leaves CHC.

by socalbob on Sep 25, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's also possible

that the team’s PR staff attempted to steer Bradley to Miles for just that same reason.

And then the team’s logic is that, “Look, we sent you to the reporter we trust most and you still botched it.”

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Sep 25, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well...

If that was the case, wouldn’t they send him to Muskat?

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's a good point

I always forget about her

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Sep 25, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Because she is NOT a reporter

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Sep 25, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's where they would send anyone if they wanted the company line spouted, though

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know someone who would do that job well

I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT

by cubsluver22 on Sep 25, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep

I’d buy that possibility

by socalbob on Sep 25, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno.

Seems to me like Bruce was just doing his job as a beat reporter, trying to ask some reasonable questions of one of the players. I doubt there was any “steering” here.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 25, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought this was a one-on-one interview

where all this shook out.

I’m saying I could see a Cubs PR guy telling Bradley, “Miles is a pretty fair guy.”

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Sep 25, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was a one-on-one.

But I don’t think Bruce works that way, nor do the Cubs PR staff “steer” players to certain reporters.

If Bruce sees this thread, perhaps he can illuminate.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Sep 25, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

If Bruce sees this thread

He’s running away. I suspect he reads a lot of stuff on here and says, “No way am I going there.”

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

As he should

Anyway, if he does read this – nice job.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

So did you like the movie then?

I hadn’t seen it before now because I’m not really interested in the Yankees. We just rented it for a little insight on Lou. I thought it was very well done and enlightening. I highly recommend it. Besides the baseball story they intertwine other things that are going on in New York at the time. We found the Son of Sam stuff disturbing to say the least since we just sent our daughter away to college for the first time. Scary. On a lighter note it made us wonder if some of Lou’s more off the wall line ups may have been picked out of a hat.

"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Sep 25, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, a bathtub
it made us wonder if some of Lou’s more off the wall line ups may have been picked out of a hat

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

A couple of years ago at the Cubs Convention.....

Lou was asked if he had seen “The Bronx is Burning” and when he said that he had seen it, the questioner asked him about the incident where he and another player (forget who the other one was) were talking to Steinbrenner in his hotel room, then hid in the bathtub behind the shower curtain when a drunken Billy Martin showed up. Lou almost, although not entirely, confirmed that this incident actually happened and the movie more or less portrayed it fairly accurately. You could tell he was walking on eggshells and choosing his words very carefully while talking about this, but to hear him talk about it was worth the price of admission to the convention all by itself.

"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004

by ctcoff99 on Sep 25, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you want some great Lou stories

read “Damned Yankees” by Bill Madden and Moss Klein. It covers 1976 (First Billy stint, when he had his fastball) to 1989 (the last place team and the year Martin was killed)

Lou comes off pretty good in a couple of places and hilarious in others. He filled in for Martin when Martin was in the hospital. Billy got drunk and was calling in lineup and bullpen moves from the hospital.

Apparently, Lou would threaten to retire a lot and he’d tell reporters, who would ignore it until he got a chance to go home and talk to his wife, who would talk him out of it. Lou was incredulous one day when Moss Klein refused to write the story (it was past deadline already and Moss didn’t believe him)

Sure enough, Anita talked him out of it. (You get the impression that the Pinellas’ marriage not only has survived his years on the road, but kinda depends on it…)

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Sep 25, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

The other player was Thurman Munson

“The Bronx Is Burning” was originally a best selling book by Jonathan Mahler, and the minseries closely followed the book, which was widely acclaimed when it came out. The reportage was solid, so it is safe to assume that the incidents portrayed in the book and the miniseries were accurate.

by azjazzman on Sep 25, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I did like "Bronx"

Like you, my interest in the Yankees is minimal. The baseball stuff seemed authentic, with a few glaring exceptions. As much as I like and admire John Turturro, he whiffed on Billy Martin big time. He played him as this meek guy who barely speaks above a whisper 90% of the time and then has these brief outbursts of anger.

I met Billy Martin in Scottsdale a couple of times when he was managing the A’s and he was not like that at all. He was exactly like the popular image of Billy Martin.

I wonder if George Steinbrenner is always primping his hair like that. Seemed a little over the top.

by azjazzman on Sep 25, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bruce Miles did a wonderful job making the story run itself

Bound to be read, not inserted by force, not making himself a story. Although I’m happy reporters like Selena Roberts did their job well enough to get us information we “needed”, I couldn’t stand to see her being interviewed about her story over and over and over again.

For some reason it irritates the holy hell out of me to see reporters interviewed about their reporting.

I agree with Drew that this seems a bit “incestuous”, but I also don’t see any harm in it. As Dan said, it was very much like an ombudsman piece… albeit a very concise and limited one. If nothing else, there is nothing wrong with a boss giving his employee a public pat on the back.

<devil’s advocate, slightly tongue in cheek>Though I DO enjoy the irony of a piece written about a reporter not making himself the news by doing it the right way ;) </devil’s advocate, slightly tongue in cheek>

"This next song... it's about the White Sox. It's called: F*** Em'." - Eddie Vedder

by PacificCub on Sep 24, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

and I realize there are dozens of "TWSS" opportunities in that post

Fire away!

"This next song... it's about the White Sox. It's called: F*** Em'." - Eddie Vedder

by PacificCub on Sep 24, 2009 8:14 PM CDT reply actions  

I think a response from the managing editor or some one else in management

was absolutely necessary.

Remember, Hendry pointed to this story as the final straw for suspending Bradley.

One of the only Bradley defenses that has held water in the last few days has been that Bradley was suspended (or at least, finally suspended) for comments made to the media That IS fairly rare.

It also puts a spotlight on Miles and the Daily Herald. Fans, players, managers, sponsors, advertisers, subscribers all could look at Miles and say, “Wow, you did that?”

I think an official word from the newspaper defending their guy is appropriate.

As for drew, he has entered the Shrill Drew Zone, where he will defend a position no matter how ludicrous it is. I have some experience with this guy and it’s best just to let him flounder.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Sep 24, 2009 9:42 PM CDT reply actions  

It's unbelieveable that anybody would find this

piece offensive. Mind-blowing. All season long, people here are carping about this Chicago announcer, that Chicago columnist, that Chicago writer, this Chicago talkshow host — and the comments are generally negative. Many times, the opinion is justified.

So, here’s one Chicago writer that breaks a story with the utmost in professionalism — a quality, that many here don’t seem to be able to find in Chicago sports journalism, whether it be TV, newspapers, or talk shows….

And Bruce Miles and his editor get ripped? I give up. There’s no hope.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 25, 2009 1:11 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm with you, SDSJM

Bruce probably is the most down-the-middle guy covering the Cubs for any newspaper right now. If he and his boss are getting ripped, you’re right … it’s hopeless.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 25, 2009 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Guys, only one person is doing the ripping.

The overwhelming majority of comments support Miles and the referenced story.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 25, 2009 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

You could not find a fairer guy than MIles

He has no axe to grind and just wants to be a good old fashioned beat reporter. As a matter of full disclosure. he once told me a great Maddux story when I met him in Spring Training. It was nothing private or off the record just one you would not likely know if Bruce had not been kind enough to share. Alas these days just being a “reporter” and not offering wacky opinions and inside dirt seems to no longer be of interest to many papers ( and I guess readers). That may be why his editor wanted to give him kudos for his work.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Sep 25, 2009 11:53 AM CDT reply actions  

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