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It's The 47th Anniversary Of... Cubs vs. Pirates Doubleheader Preview, Wednesday 9/30, 1:05 & 7:05 CT

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A 47th anniversary? Of what? What's that all about?

This all started with an email exchange on a SABR mailing list to which I subscribe. (Yes, I got permission from both men to post their email here.) Josh Heit asked the list over this past weekend:

On Monday, the Mets and Nationals begin a series and the teams will have at least a combined 191 losses (Mets 89 going into Sunday, Nationals 102). Is this is a record? I have checked some obvious choices such as the 2003 Tigers and did not find a series that beat 191, although I was not working off of a comprehensive list.

To which John Pastier wrote the following definitive reply:

As a 1962 Mets fan, I am deeply shocked that Josh does not consider The Amazin's to be an obvious choice to be checked for this honor. This club was to losing what Rickey Henderson was to stealing or walking, what Barry Bonds was to splash hits, what Ichiro is to singles, what the Rockies are to thin air, what Joe Morgan is to baseball analysis, and what Pete Rose was to making outs. They are the undisputed gold standard of losing, and holding up a puny 191 combined losses before this juggernaut of defeat is like asking whether Babe Ruth ever hit more than 40 home runs.

The Mets and the Cubs played each other on Sept. 30, 1962, and at the close of business, they had combined for 223 losses, 120 of them by the Metropolitans. And they did this even though they were not allowed to complete their full schedule, falling two decisions short of the requisite 162.

I hope Pastier was being facetious about Joe Morgan (either that, or in an oblique way calling him a "loser"). Anyway, yes, the Sept. 30, 1962 game (which the Cubs won 5-3), holds the record for the game in which the two clubs began the day with the most combined losses (222; the Mets began the game with 119 defeats and the Cubs 103, which is the franchise record, tied in 1966). Another interesting note about that season-ending series at Wrigley Field 47 years ago: the first game of that series, a Friday afternoon game on September 28 also won by the Cubs 3-2, drew a paid "crowd" of 595 people. That number of people could fit comfortably in a couple of bleacher sections. It was one of nine games between 1959 and 1966 that drew paid attendance of less than 1000. How times change.

There will be a few more people than that in the seats during today's first game, a makeup of the postponement from August 16, but likely fewer than the estimated 15,000 who showed up last night.

Starting rotation note: Lou announced during last night's postgame news conference that Jeff Samardzija will start tomorrow vs. the Pirates, and Tom Gorzelanny on Friday vs. the Diamondbacks. (It was originally the other way around.)

Star-divide

Game One Starting Pitchers
Ted Lilly
Ted Lilly
Cubs
vs. Charlie Morton
Charlie Morton
Pirates
12-8 W-L 4-9
3.02 ERA 5.01
143 SO 54
34 BB 37
22 HR 7
vs. Pit -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Ted Lilly 12-8 26 26 0 0 0 0 170.0 146 62 57 22 34 143 3.02 1.06


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Charlie Morton 4-9 17 17 0 0 0 0 88.0 98 49 49 7 37 54 5.01 1.53

Game Two Starting Pitchers
Carlos Zambrano
Carlos Zambrano
Cubs
vs. Jeff Karstens
Jeff Karstens
Pirates
9-6 W-L 3-5
3.69 ERA 5.45
146 SO 49
74 BB 44
10 HR 12
vs. Pit -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Carlos Zambrano 9-6 34 27 1 1 0 0 163.1 149 74 67 10 74 146 3.69 1.37


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Jeff Karstens 3-5 36 11 0 0 0 0 100.2 106 62 61 12 44 49 5.45 1.49

I'm going to try to say nice things about the Pirates' starters today, Charlie Morton and Jeff Karstens, but geez, those records are pretty bad. Neither one strikes out many hitters, and both ERA's are north of 5.00. The last time Charlie Morton faced the Cubs, they scored ten earned runs off him in one-plus innings on August 14 at Wrigley Field before John Russell took pity on him and got him out of the game. Jeff Karstens had one shining moment as a Pirate, in the first game he threw for them after being acquired from the Yankees. On August 1, 2008, he threw six shutout innings against the Cubs at Wrigley Field. His next two outings against the Cubs, not so much -- five earned runs in three innings in a start on August 25, 2008 and two earned runs in two innings in relief on September 9 of this year.

Ted Lilly will be trying to lower his ERA below 3.00 and finish the year with a sub-three ERA for the first time in his major league career -- a worthy goal. A win today would also be his 45th as a Cub, giving him an average of 15 wins a year over the first three years of his four-year deal, one of Jim Hendry's best free-agent signings. Ted is 1-1 vs. the Pirates this year with a 2.77 ERA and he threw better in the June 30 loss, when the Cubs got shut out by Ross Ohlendorf (who the Cubs won't face in this series), than in the September 9 victory at PNC Park. Ted is also 8-1, 1.60 in 12 starts at Wrigley Field this year and 8-3, 2.55 in 14 starts in day games.

Carlos Zambrano is 1-0, 2.19 in two starts vs. the Pirates this year; he will be trying to follow up his shutout of the Giants with another strong performance to end the year on an up note, and also to get his 10th win. That would make seven straight years in double figures for Z and it would be his 106th career victory. Of the current Pirates, no one has more than 14 career AB against Z, and only Brandon Moss has homered off him.

Today's first game is on WGN and FSN Pittsburgh. Today's second game is on CSN Chicago Plus (CLTV in Chicago, "check local listings" elsewhere). For other games today see the MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday (game one)

MLB.com Gameday (game two)

Baseball-reference.com game preview (game one)

Baseball-reference.com game preview (game two)

SB Nation game preview (game one)

SB Nation game preview (game two)

Please visit our SB Nation Pirates site Bucs Dugout. They seem a little lonely over there.

There won't be a separate game preview thread for the second game; consider this a preview for both games (feel free to revisit this thread before the night game begins). Overflow comment threads will post today for game one at 2:15 and 3:15 pm CDT. The first pitch thread will post for game two at 7 pm CDT and overflows at 8:15 and 9:15 pm CDT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Question ... how do I get the gray bar?

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 30, 2009 11:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Coming around, are you?

@ type this @ without the spaces to get

type this

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 30, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

I’d actually forgotten how to do it since they fixed the glitch.

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 30, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Got it!

Arrrrgh, I be getting on board with ye!

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 30, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll do it for the games

but it seems too much work for the previews.

BTW, it’s Sue’s fault. It’s all Sue’s fault…

by chilango2 on Sep 30, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How is it her fault?

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 30, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

she suggested doing it for the game last night

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 30, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not blaming you.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 30, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know,

Go back to it and read how it REALLY happened…

by chilango2 on Sep 30, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I saw it.

You said, “Let’s do the entire game like this.”

Arrrgh, matey, ye shall walk the plank!

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 30, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I assign no blame. We're eliminated from the playoff race and bored. Why not salute the Dread Pirate Graybar?

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 30, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ARRRR

@ The rest of your comment walked the plank! ArrRRRRRR@

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 30, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh! Graybar fail!

The rest of your comment walked the plank! ArrRRRRRR

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 30, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

avast, it has sunk to Davey Jones' Locker!

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 30, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HAHA!

The graybar pirated your comment!

by chilango2 on Sep 30, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

TWHS

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 30, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um no it was

chilango who suggested that. I just started it in the game thread. :D

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Sep 30, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's the poopdeck for you matey

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Sep 30, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I ♥ you too. :-)

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Sep 30, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bet you say that to all the boys.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 30, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only the ones I like. :D

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Sep 30, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

::Sniff:: I want to be hearted, too. ::Sniff::

Arrr, even a pirate needs to be hearted!

Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?

by BleedsbluinMI on Sep 30, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aw....♥ there ya go buddy.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Sep 30, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

=)

Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?

by BleedsbluinMI on Sep 30, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Charrrlie Morton and Jeff Karrrstens? To victory!

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Sep 30, 2009 11:47 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Welcome to Charlie Morton's Steakhouse...

…where we serve big fat meatballs right down the middle of the plate! (We hope.)

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 30, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought that was what Jeff Karstens' Steakhouse served.

"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 30, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, ever since the Cubs got the review of Karstens', it has been.

But last year, no one knew what he served.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 30, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

with Aaron Miles as the shrimp appetizer, arghhhhh....

"Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts." - Leslie Nielson

by LAcarl519 on Sep 30, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We (my brother and I) bought these one time. I don't think they ever hatched.

how the heck did you come up with this? Hilarious.

Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?

by BleedsbluinMI on Sep 30, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look up "brine shrimp" on Google Images.

I had some and they hatched. They lasted for a whole entire week!

by chilango2 on Sep 30, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did find some info on them.

They are used in labs for experiments sometimes. They can live for a year, but must be in a filteres saline aquarium or have the water changed daily. At least you got a whole week!

Some people grow them as fish food as well.

Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?

by BleedsbluinMI on Sep 30, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

talk about inflation!

they are now $9.65 on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001CBZXEE

a better investment than gold!!

but the upkeep seems a tad more difficult. :-)

"Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts." - Leslie Nielson

by LAcarl519 on Sep 30, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am a bit concerned about the

sea monkey fossils and EZ Lube banners on that web site. Some one has a twisted sense of cross-over marketing.

"Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts." - Leslie Nielson

by LAcarl519 on Sep 30, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope they respect his...well you know

Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?

by BleedsbluinMI on Sep 30, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rami

Anyone thing Aramis plays at all today? It doesn’t sound like he’ll play much the rest of the year from what I’m reading.

by bungle on Sep 30, 2009 12:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Where are you reading that?

Just curious. Maybe we’ll see him in Game 2, though it does sound like Lou is winding down his playing time.

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 30, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Muskat has a quoite from Lou

in here

Says he might not play anymore this year.

Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?

by BleedsbluinMI on Sep 30, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, thanks!

Didn’t catch that. Well, it appears Jeff Baker plays a pretty decent third base, so I’m pretty comfortable with him there. I’m guessing the cooler temps probably make it harder for Aramis to loosen up his shoulder. He still managed to have a hell of a year.

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 30, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh well, that'll just give Fox a few more starts I guess.

/sarcasm

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 30, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Arghhhh A verrry fine eventime or day, as it may beeee, ye swabbies

You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein

by eths on Sep 30, 2009 12:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nope, got the evening off.

Right now my main project at work is a new German TV channel by Disney.

You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein

by eths on Sep 30, 2009 12:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Upps...

Shivvverrr me timbers, the reply failure strikes again

You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein

by eths on Sep 30, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK cool.

I was looking for live updates. The Spanish Web sites are very slow.

by chilango2 on Sep 30, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

中国海盗

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 30, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

why it's me ol' friend the BABIP cat, keep a litter of 'em down in the hold

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 30, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

'tis her sisterrr, if thou wish to meet the wench, arghhh, arr need only a gulden doubloon

You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein

by eths on Sep 30, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

♪For a ballgame, today♫

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 30, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

let's play 2

"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Sep 30, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

♪♫ the fans are out to buy a ticket or two ♪♫

"Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts." - Leslie Nielson

by LAcarl519 on Sep 30, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boo Len

[To Judd Sirott] “You did a fantastic job this year and I look forward to many many more,” said Kasper on WGN Radio.

by chilango2 on Sep 30, 2009 12:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Len then added...

“But for chrissakes, dude, could you stop freakin’ yelling? I can hear you all the way over the TV booth. Hell, I think the guys in the scoreboard can hear you. It’s really annoying. You know these microphones work, right? You don’t have to freakin’ yell every freakin’ thing. Goddamnit, Judd, just STFU!!”

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 30, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's the laughing that drives me nuts

"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Sep 30, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obviously he's not listening to him since

he’s on the air at the same time.

"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Sep 30, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Todd Walker is, though

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Sep 30, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ye swabbies, ye shallt walketh the plank an' jump argghhhhh

You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein

by eths on Sep 30, 2009 1:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Welp, Game 1 stunk

Hopefully, Lee and Rami will be playing in the nightcap.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Sep 30, 2009 3:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That was a sucky game.

Hill should catch the nightcap. Lee ought to be back. Zambrano brings a nice bat. Other than that, I hope they dust off some of the scrappy.

by chilango2 on Sep 30, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

An attempt at Game 2's lineup

Theriot, SS
Fukudome, RF
Lee, 1B
Hoffpauir, LF (because Fox went 0-for-3 and clearly can’t hit /sarcasm)
Baker, 3B
Fontenot, 2B
Hill, C
Fuld, CF
Zambrano, P

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Sep 30, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fox needs more time in the line-up to hit at the major league level

Trot him out there again.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Sep 30, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miles 2B
Scales LF
Lee 1B
Hoffpauir RF
Baker 3B
Blanco SS
Colvin CF
Hill C
Z P

by chilango2 on Sep 30, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miles SS
Scales LF
Hoffpauir 1B
Baker 3B
Fukudome RF
Fontenot 2B
Hill C
Colvin CF

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 30, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes,

as Wittenmyer is reporting Lee is questionable for the nightcap.

by chilango2 on Sep 30, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So now we return to here, how very confusing all this hopping around is...

I shall go to bed now – it’s 20 to 11 here…

Guten Nacht and better luck in the second game!

You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. - Albert Einstein

by eths on Sep 30, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice:

cst_cubs Lilly stumps for Johnson to re-sign. T-shirt: WITH REED WE WILL SUCCEED. ‘I believe that’-Lilly.

by chilango2 on Sep 30, 2009 4:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And some more news:

cst_cubs Rami done for ‘09 w/ sore shoulder? ’’I’m not going to say that but we’ll see,’’ says Lou.

by chilango2 on Sep 30, 2009 4:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I may be speculating, but there's nothing to be gained

by playing him the remainder, why not sit him and start his offseason rest now?

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Sep 30, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not gonna argue with that notion.

But you could say the same about Lee, Fukudome, Johnson, Soto, Theriot, and Zambrano.

by chilango2 on Sep 30, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True, but it's appeared to me his shoulder injury hasn't fully healed.

I’ve seen Rami occasionally swing at a ball, cringe and rub his shoulder. If there’s still possibility of aggrevating the capsule or cuff, let someone else play.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Sep 30, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perfect, Marshall can back up the play from LF.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Sep 30, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does that mean we'll move Z to 1B after the 7th?

To keep his bat in the lineup, of course…

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Sep 30, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hell no, he's the DH.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Sep 30, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Game 2 line-up via Twittermeyer

fuld (cf), riot, lee, hoff (lf), baker (3b), rejo (rf), font, hill, Z.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Sep 30, 2009 5:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

DLee and the AAA's

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Sep 30, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Batteries or auto club?

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Sep 30, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gee, can we get off the "schneid" for game 2 and score some runs this time?

How does a pitcher give up 10 hits in one inning against a team and then shut them out in the next game against them?

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Sep 30, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Failure to suck again, probably

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Sep 30, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How rude of him...

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Sep 30, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I blame it on Miles

"Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts." - Leslie Nielson

by LAcarl519 on Sep 30, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd say, "let's play two"

but the bats were on vacation in game one.

Let’s get the split and get #83 tonight.

"Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts." - Leslie Nielson

by LAcarl519 on Sep 30, 2009 6:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hello?

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Sep 30, 2009 6:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yo

"Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts." - Leslie Nielson

by LAcarl519 on Sep 30, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where is everybody?

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Sep 30, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

good question.

first pitch thread must be up soon

"Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts." - Leslie Nielson

by LAcarl519 on Sep 30, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You didn't get

an invitation?

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Sep 30, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, what the hell Sue?

Don’t like me anymore?

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Sep 30, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL....Clutch

just posted it below.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Sep 30, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There it is.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Sep 30, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Sep 30, 2009 7:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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