Sheets: All but signed?
About halfway down,
"The Blue Jays will have a scout at tomorrow's workout by free-agent pitcher Ben Sheets, but he's all but signed by the Chicago Cubs."
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Well, this would be excellent news.
Let’s see if it happens.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I agree
Hendry kind of downplayed it, didn’t he?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
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by Shanghai Badger on Jan 18, 2010 8:54 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah.
A lot. But that’s Hendry’s usual MO — he rarely negotiates in public.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Agreed, but in the "sweetheart" session
He made it sound like they weren’t interested.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jan 18, 2010 10:00 AM CST up reply actions
LOL @ "sweetheart session".
Yeah, he made it sound like that — but I didn’t hear him specifically dismiss it completely, either.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I may have to change my sig line...
I told her I definitely would if Crane called her that.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jan 18, 2010 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
Doggie's FB status
“Back home after a weekend in chicago with mom and four legged brother”
My response: Glad you made it back ok…..sweetheart
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
Yeah, I dno't remember Hendry EVER negotiating in public.
That’s what I like about him.
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by Ryno Runner on Jan 18, 2010 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
yep - he much prefers the privacy of a hospital room... ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Hendry was all over the place
I could have talked to him for an hour. Good to see him out in the open and what not but I figured he wouldn’t have the time. Good and bad. Not sure if it’s good that he’s out there: he could be making deals (or should be). But good to know he’s not just a guy behind a desk and seems to care about the fans.
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
Very interesting
What are we going to do with all these starting pitchers?
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
You can never have too many starting pitchers.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Sheets was a top of the rotation pitcher
If healthy, and IF Lilly does return healthy and IF Zambrano is actually in shape and if Dempster does return to his ’08 level and if Wells is not one hit wonder than….
This is a real rotation to be reckoned with, and therefore rent a Silva through April and May is what appears to be part of the master plan…
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
We don't really need all those "ifs" to say the rotation will be good.
Dempster and Z were still good in 2010. But what you do is give yourself enough high ceiling options that you can have as many top of the line pitchers for the playoffs and if we’ve got three, we’ll be strong. Add Sheets and we’ve got a good chance of having three.
"We’re going to come back here next year healthy and do what we’re supposed to do, and we’re going to be all right. That’s not Hendry’s fault. He thought it was the right move. It didn’t work out. But at the same time, he’s the same guy that put back-to-back championship teams together." - Aramis Ramirez
Certainly a better problem to have than
“what are we going to do without enough starting pitchers?”
I’m sure you can find plenty of people who will tell you there’s no such thing as too many good starting pitchers. This is a problem worth having.
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by Schwa on Jan 18, 2010 9:23 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
"all these starting pitchers?"
Right now we have Dempster and Zambrano has the only “sure things” in the rotation. Wells is certainly in the rotation, but it remains to be seen if he is again solid in the rotation this year. After that, you have Lilly (who will likely miss April) and Gorzellany, Marshall, and Silva. None of those last three are guys who you’d start ahead of a potentially healthy Sheets.
If we do sign Sheets (and if Sheets is healthy enough to be a productive starter), then we have a stronger bullpen and Gorzellany either goes to the pen or goes to AAA to be the 6th starter. And if Sheets isn’t healthy, then either Marshall or Gorzellany (or Silva if he finds some magic) will jump into the 5th spot. It’s not like Sheets would be bumping a potential Cy Young winner to the bullpen here. It’s always nice to have options for the back end of the rotation.
I was being more facetious than anything
I know starting pitching is king and I would like to have him. This is an area where I think teams should deal from strength. I just don’t see Silva in the bullpen working out very well.
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
Sorry I missed the sarcasm...
And I agree that Silva isn’t likely to work out – either in the pen or the rotation. The good news is that if he doesn’t work out hopefully the team will just DL him or release him and not have him take meaningful innings from better pitchers just to “make the trade worthwhile.”
by SouthernCub on Jan 18, 2010 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
If Sheets signs with the Cubs and is healthy
I could see Silva being moved when Lilly returns. They won’t get much for him, but if he can get the occasional out, the Cubs could get some salary relief and the proverbial PTBNL.
No one's going to take Silva's contract....
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Jan 18, 2010 2:32 PM CST up reply actions
Probably trade 'em after rotation/bullpen is set.
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by Ryno Runner on Jan 18, 2010 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
My guess is that either Marshall or Gorzo would be traded ...
I know, I know — you can never have too much pitching, and I know that Silva is far from a safe bet. But think of it like this:
Rotation: Z, Sheets, Dempster, Wells, Lilly/Silva. Barring unforeseen injuries (or a slide by Wells), the only real question is whether Silva would be the fifth starter until Lilly’s return — and fifth starters aren’t that necessary in April.
The sure bets in the pen are Marmol, Guzman and Grabow, with Gray as very probable. I’d bet that either Caridad or Berg gets a spot, too, and the Cubs (from recent comments) seem intent on signing a free-agent righty to fill Heilman’s role.
So, Marmol, Guzman, Grabow, Gray, Free-agent righty, Caridad/Berg That leaves one spot for Marshall, Gorzo, Shark, Caridad/Berg, Parisi, Patton.
My guess is Shark starts the season in Iowa as a starter and either Marshall or Gorzo gets the final spot in the pen. I bet the Cubs end up trading Marshall to somebody like Kansas City, where he can get a chance to finally start for a full season. Gorzo stays as the long man in the pen AND as insurance in case Lilly/Silva causes problems.
I agree with this for the most part...
…though I still don’t get Hendry’s insistence on adding to the bullpen. Isn’t Gray essentially Heilman’s replacement?
And I just realized I’ve been completely forgetting about Samardzija. I hope you’re right and he starts the season at Triple A – assuming the Cubs intend to stick with him as a starter.
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Oh, I'm not saying I agree with it
I hate spending money on middle relievers. I’m just figuring in the stated strategy.
Frankly, I wouldn’t be surprised if Sheets ends up somewhere else (though I think he will be a Cub). The team’s comments recently seem to indicate that shopping for a starter isn’t top priority.
Exciting stuff if it's true.
I haven’t seen the Cubs portrayed as such a sure thing anywhere else, though.
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This would
be great news. I sure hope this comes to be. He gets healthy we could have a good rotation.
Even better rotation.
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by Ryno Runner on Jan 18, 2010 11:59 AM CST up reply actions
Sure would be nice
Add a healthy Sheets and a turnaround for Silva .. At one time he had to have been good to get that kind of contract .. i am trying to be positive here .
Bruce Miles contradicts this rumor
That report is not accurate at all. Even if Sheets’ price drops to $6-8 million, the Cubs are not doing that. He’s coming off an injury that cost him a year, and he is not throwing in a game situation. He’s also had a history of injury problems. The Cubs are busy today working on arbitration stuff. I’m not even sure which scout they’ll have in Arizona tomorrow. But that report is not accurate.
I still hope we manage to get Sheets.
"We’re going to come back here next year healthy and do what we’re supposed to do, and we’re going to be all right. That’s not Hendry’s fault. He thought it was the right move. It didn’t work out. But at the same time, he’s the same guy that put back-to-back championship teams together." - Aramis Ramirez
We will see
The longer the days go, Sheets prices will have to go down. To me Sheets is worth the risk.
Aww, you're no fun anymore.

Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.
I'd find a Sheets signing pretty exciting, too...
…but given Hendry’s comments about Harden at the Cubs Convention this weekend (something about never being sure when an injury would hit), I can see where Bruce is coming from. Maybe Jimbo has exhausted his risk tolerance for high-risk, high-reward starters and intends to stick with what he’s got. Not sure what to believe at this point.
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