A Few More Cubs Convention Photos
by Al Yellon on Jan 18, 2010 8:00 AM CST
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PrintOne month from today (February 18), pitchers and catchers will report for the first spring workouts in Mesa, Arizona.
While we wait for that and for the announcement of the final signings before arbitration (and maybe a couple of additions), here are some more photos from the convention.
The "Sarge", Gary Matthews
Left to right: WGN's Pat Hughes, Jay Johnstone, Jeff Baker
Micah Hoffpauir (in background, Dave Otto)
Left to right: Senior Director of Facility Management and Information Technology Carl Rice, Executive Vice President of Business Operations Mark McGuire, President Crane Kenney, Senior Vice President of Community Affairs Mike Lufrano and Chief Sales & Marketing Officer Wally Hayward
The patriarch of the Ricketts family, Joe Ricketts
All photos by David Sameshima
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Cool - Thanks!
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Not to mention the biggest ring ive ever seen.
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by cubswynn on Jan 18, 2010 10:29 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
When I got his autograph I told him I loved the hat.
He smiled and said thank you.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Jan 18, 2010 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry you did not have a great time
but I can’t get too upset on the autograph issues. If I get a few fine but it is not why I go. The sessions are really good and I find it ironic that DOWN ON THE FARM which is probably the most informative is the least attended.
A few notes . Yes Al should stay to meet the fan club. People need to remember this is a CHARITY event. The Hilton gives the Cubs $100,000 and I doubt the other suggested venues would top it . Think of the Hilton as the Wrigley Field of hotels, old, historic, cramped with somewhat outdated facilities but part of the tradition that works for the Cubs.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Jan 18, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
I couldn't stay.
Maybe next year.
Yes, it’s a charity event. I would imagine the Cubs could have such a donation from just about any hotel, given the business the convention brings in — the Hilton obviously makes far more than $100,000 on a weekend they’d normally be empty.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Does getting a pass require you to get a room?
What are the costs?
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie" -- Tony Montana
No. Passes were $60 plus handling fees. Around $66 total I think.
One catch is the passes sold out in about 15 minutes. So if you got shut out of that, then the hotel was another option.
If you booked a room at the Hilton, you could buy up to 4 passes per room booked for $20 each ($80 for 4).
The standard rooms ran nearly $215 per night when all the fees were totaled up. Suites were more. Parking was NOT included in that cost. So for anyone in town or close by, just buy the pass and forego the hotel; it’s cheaper.
Others have suggested buying the pass and staying at the Essex Hotel next door to the Hilton. Rooms were much cheaper apparently. And walking across the street wouldn’t be a big deal.
And there is always eBay, or other ticket services for the after market buyer.
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I think it's one of the least attended because it's the last event.
I don’t think it’s necessarily a reflection of interest. I would have gone had it been earlier in the weekend, but we needed to check out and get back on the road to Michigan.
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OOPS this was supposed to be response to musicdude
Post Fail.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Jan 18, 2010 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
Was not blown away by this year's convention
My first one in three years and I have to say I was not impressed. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed myself and had a good time. But there were some things I would change:
1. Al: STAY LONGER! The meet up on Saturday was cool (Hi to Jason, if you read this). Got to see Doggie Stalker again (got my passes from her, THANKS SO MUCH again) but it would have been cool to meet you. Hopefully I make it to Wrigley this summer and we’ll arrange something. I did see you with Doggie and another woman outside the hall where the opening ceremonies were but I was being lead into the waiting room for the opening ceremonies and didn’t get a chance to say hi. Oh well.
2. Everyone loves guys like wants autographs from guys like Derek Lee, Carlos Zambrano, Lou Piniella, etc. Every year I’ve been, it’s tradition to show up at two in the morning on Saturday to wait in line for autographs for that day. Usually those big names are the first to sign in the morning and then they’re gone. So I was really looking forward to that. This year they had all the big names as scratch off winners, so those who didn’t win didn’t get a chance. Convention managers: Do this for guys like the Hawk or Maddux. But for us regulars who just want a chance to see Z or Ramirez, I’m willing to go early for him. But I want that chance. As a result, I didn’t feel the need to show up that early and the only current Cub who I got was Soto. My list of autographs was ok. I’ve done much better in years where the team wasn’t as good
3. Bring back the autograph/photo booths outside the one room. In the memorabilia areas, you used to be able to get guys like Sean Marshall or Mike Fontenot or even Pat Hughes. This year, Fergie had his usual booth and brought along a couple of other former players. For $20 you could get them to sign anything and that money went to charity. I gladly paid. But I really would have liked to have come across some other photo lines (there was only ONE!? Usually theres 3-4). Those are really cool and one of my favorite parts.
4. Better line management. People were waiting in line once the convention opened 3-5 hours ahead of when the player they wanted was scheduled to appear (Ryan Theriot and The Shark). I had to deal with some rude ones and they blocked the aisles and made it hard just to get to the bathroom (there’s only one on the bottom floor) or to move to another room. Designate areas for where they should wait or give them another line somewhere.
5. The memorabilia area is always impressive but I felt like there weren’t as many booths as years past. This may be is probably because of the economy, which is a shame. I almost like the memorabilia stuff as much as the autographs
6. Is there any way to get Fukudome to come to the convention? He might have been there last year, I don’t know. But I would love to get a chance to get his autograph. He wasn’t here this year. Other no-shows include Aramis Ramirez and Alfonso Soriano (who might have been torn to shreds by fans if he did so maybe it was good that he didn’t).
7. Tim Stoddard? Jay Johnstone? Scott Sanderson? Steve Trout? Bob Dernier? The only good thing I can say about these guys being there is that they were scheduled around noon time so it was a perfect time to get lunch. Cmon Convention Management, there’s a huge list of guys we’d love to see there. This line up is not there.
Glen Beckert was an excellent find though. I don’t think he’s been there when I have been there. Hundley is a staple. Nice to see Milt Pappas again as well. And cool to see Dave Otto (has he been there before?)
I’ll post my pictures tonight. Nothing life altering but just some cool shots to see
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
Some comments.
A lot of your complaints — legitimate ones — are because the Hilton is, as I have said many times, too small a venue for an event this large. They’ve got to consider moving it to Rosemont or somewhere else where the lines would be more manageable, and more people could get into the opening ceremony. The opening ceremony in the grand ballroom can fit maybe 3,000 of the 15,000 who are there.
From what I hear, there were vendors priced out this year, so that’s why the memorabilia area may have been smaller than you expected.
I doubt you will ever see Fukudome at the convention. That’s a long way to travel for one weekend. Same for Soriano & Ramirez.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
vendors
I imagine that this is a trend at conventions and conferences everywhere. I know someone who has a vendor booth at the main conference in our industry and let me tell you, it is a fortune. They charge for the space, then added dollars for the table, chairs, and every little thing you need. This is passed down from the hotel. I expect the exhibit hall at our upcoming conference to be much smaller than last year.
I concur
I’ve done a convention once and numerous art shows and fairs. The booth fees can be pretty hefty sometimes. With the Cubs Convention I’d imagine they be enormous. There are tons of other expenses involved like all their display equipment and product- not to mention hotel fees, food, parking, etc. etc. If people aren’t buying, it’s very hard to cover those expenses. I don’t know about this convention, but my shows last year were brutal. I was quite a bit in the red and I’m considering dropping quite a few of them for next year until the economy picks up.
"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
Agreed!
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
by Musicdude10 on Jan 18, 2010 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
Hate hate hate the Rosemont
The Hyatt seems the best alternative, but I can see making a case for McCormick … however you need a segway to make your way around the place.
you can’t get much by that #$%@ ballhawk -- LT
The Hyatt Regency downtown would work.
There’s a lot more meeting space there, much larger hotel, closer to the loop and north Michigan avenue, too.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Rosemont
would be fine with me, I live ten minutes away! :D
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jan 18, 2010 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
me too I'd love that. better parking too
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."--Rogers Hornsby
by cooliogirl47 on Jan 18, 2010 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
Al, agreed on the Hilton
I never understood why the opening ceremonies were in a room where you couldn’t fit everyone. And even then, you can only fit about 10-20% of those who are going. This was the first year I made it in there and that welcome from Ricketts was really cool and I’m glad I got to see him and the players in person. The tv’s don’t really capture the excitement.
Doesn’t surprise me about the vendors. But I never knew the walls were white until I saw so much empty space there.
I hear you about Fukudome. Still would have been cool.
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
by Musicdude10 on Jan 18, 2010 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
Beckert was there when I went in 2007. It was easy to get his autograph.
Very nice man. Very humble.
Instead of signing the baseball I gave him on the sweet spot, he deferred to another location on the ball- perhaps he thought I was going to get others at the dais to sign the same ball. He was there with Rich Nye, Gene Oliver and Ron Santo. My guess is that he was leaving the sweet spot on the ball for his former roomie.
That baseball was only for his signature. As I said, humble.
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I met Glenn Beckert in the early 1980's.
I can confirm everything Zeke said. Friendly, nice and humble.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I met Beckert
on a flight to Florida one year ago today. He was heading home after the convention and sitting in the row in front of me. I was unbelievably nice. I didn’t recognize him from the back of his head, but another passenger struck up a conversation with him. As soon as I realized who it was, I joined in. He told baseball stories the entire way to Florida and signed autographs for anyone who asked. He was one of the friendliest people I’ve ever met.
Jose Cardenal was on the same flight and just as courteous to fans.
Go Cubs Go and SKOL Vikings!!!
by HectorVillanueva on Jan 18, 2010 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
He seems like a guy who misses the game
There wasn’t a huge line for him which surprised me. I know he’s not a HOF’er but still a good Cub and played well. Seemed like a guy who truly appreciated anyone who came up and said hi. He talked to me for a minute too, with people behind me, so that was nice
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
by Musicdude10 on Jan 18, 2010 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
Some players
won’t sign on the sweet spot unless asked. I have told that the spot is normally reserved for managers. Also, I believe a sweet spot autograph is worth more so I assume some to do it out of spite for all the dealers (can’t necessarily blame them).
I have a beckert from a couple of years and it is on the sweet spot…can’t remember if I asked him to do it or he just did it.
When I got Cashner’s autograph in the lobby this weekend, he asked me what I prefered.
"All I want is food and creative love" - Rusted Root
by TheRiot Police on Jan 18, 2010 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
Cashner and Jackson both did that
They were the ones I was most excited about. Incredibly nice guys too
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
by Musicdude10 on Jan 18, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I have heard that too.
Funny story: when the Lansing Lugnuts were the Cubs Low A affiliate in 1999, I took my 6 year old daughter to the “Meet the Team” event prior to the start of the new season. The heralded player that year was Corey Patterson. My daughter took a baseball around for all the players to sign. Her first stop was C-Pat. He signed right on the ’ole sweet spot.
There was another lesser-known player on the Lugnuts team that year who went on to play for the Cubs and also signed the ball: Carlos Zambrano.
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Do you/does she still have that ball?
Probably worth a couple bucks, although you might have to take a few off if Patterson signed it (sarcasm….sorta)
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
Yes, my daughter has ALL the signed baseballs from the Lugnuts teams. starting from when she was about 3.
She and I went every year as a father-daughter thing until 2004. She kind of lost the interest after we went to the NLCS Game 6 in 2003. Can’t say as I blame her…
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Understandable
Still very cool that she has all of those
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
are you kidding me?....I love your #7 bunch!
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."--Rogers Hornsby
by cooliogirl47 on Jan 18, 2010 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
I absolutely agree on #4. Line management was horrible.
Getting in line at noon for a 2pm photo op with Ernie Banks, a line nazi came over and told everyone that if they we’re in the line for Rick Sutcliffe (who was the noon photo op) to get out. She then started another line that wound back and forth in a holding pattern.
On the surface this seems fine, except that:
1. she did a poor job of clearing the original line of those people wanting to get Banks’ signature
2. no other lines were being managed in this way
3. she failed to tell anyone else of her new line management method and
4. (worst of all) then she LEFT to go off shift before allowing this separate Banks-only line to move into the roped off cue.
The next staffer was bewildered by the mess this woman had left and just told everyone to go ahead and get in line, no matter if they were there for Sutcliffe, Koyie Hill (who signed before Ernie) or Banks.
About 60 people who refused to follow the directive to form a new Banks-only line and who had seeped into the line feigning interest in getting Hill’s signature (and then NOT going up) effectively line-jumped before those who did as we were asked. When I asked to talk with a supervisor and explained what had happened (with about 20 people around me all nodding in agreement) they said there was nothing they could do. Great.
I’m sure there were a lot of very upset folks after me who didn’t get a photo op with Ernie because they were aced out to the end of the line, when at worst they should have been somewhere in the middle.
And here was poor Koyie Hill, who after taking photos with some people in line for about 15 minutes, looked out to a monstrous line of people- none of who were coming forward to get their picture taken with him. He got up and left. I didn’t blame him at all.
Very, very poorly handled.
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I think I saw you guys
that was pretty silly how they handled that. Were you able to get your picture with Ernie?
Just a general comment that a lot of other people have already made: The convention has outgrown that location. They need to find a bigger space for it. I don’t care where they do it, but they need more space.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
Yes I did. He was great. I even brought a copy of his book "Mr. Cub." I've had it since I was 15.
Ernie looked at it and said “Wow”, and then turned and showed it to a couple of people off to the side that were there with him. It was pretty neat. Here’s the photo:
What also ticked me off was the inconsistency of the staff. Ernie likes to briefly chat up people. They let him do that and also let people bring things up with them to Ernie for the photo, many items of which Ernie signed. All this despite several loud announcements directly to the contrary before Ernie got there. They set up rules and then promptly ignored them- for about 60 people.
THEN about the time the gentleman who SHOULD have been first in line to get his photo with Ernie got to the front of the line, the staff realized how slow things were going and basically gave everyone else the bums rush. “Hurry, hurry, hurry…NEXT!”
I mean come on. Just be consistent, is all I ask. If you set up rules, clearly communicate them to everyone and then follow them. It’s like what players want from umpires. Just be consistent, we’ll adapt.
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Nice picture!
"People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-Rogers Hornsby-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jan 18, 2010 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
Yea those people who worked were not so bright
Just the way the lines were arranged and their locations and moving people around. Those who were there first deserve those autographs. Then you have people in the actual lines saying they were waiting for the same players. Pretty odd. I wasn’t sure how all that would work out.
Personally, it wasn’t worth it for me for guys like Theriot or the Shark. For Lee or Ramirez, etc not an issue at all.
I have a story about what happened with a woman in line for Theriot but she used language and it was harsh. I’ll post it as a new topic in this thread.
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
by Musicdude10 on Jan 18, 2010 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe she encountered the same line matron we had in our line...
I thought about using some harsh language to try and get through to her, but there were kids around and that approach rarely gets the desired effect.
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Sorry you did not have a great time.
but I can’t get too upset on the autograph issues. If I get a few fine but it is not why I go. The sessions are really good and I find it ironic that DOWN ON THE FARM which is probably the most informative is the least attended.
A few notes . Yes Al should stay to meet the fan club. People need to remember this is a CHARITY event. The Hilton gives the Cubs $100,000 and I doubt the other suggested venues would top it . Think of the Hilton as the Wrigley Field of hotels, old, historic, cramped with somewhat outdated facilities but part of the tradition that works for the Cubs.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Jan 18, 2010 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
Don't get me wrong DS, I did have a good time.
And I know the size of thew crowd is just too large to manage effectively all the time over three days. But if they just communicate clearly, stick to their own rules and are consistent in that approach, things will likely go as well as they can under the circumstances.
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Regarding # 3 above
Friday night Ryan Dempster was at his foundation booth signing autographs. He had the longest line, but there were a few others, like Keith Moreland. Fergie was there Friday night, too.
Regarding #2 – My son got a D. Lee scratch card. He was immediately offered $20 for it. Then another guy offered him $40. He was surprised and so hesitated. The guy upped it to $50. As we are not autograph collectors, or dealers, he took the $50 which paid for our food and beer for the evening, plus a short cab ride after. My son, who lived across from the ballpark on Waveland Ave. for a couple of years, is used to scalpers, but was taken aback by this new “market,” as he called it. He speculated that he could have gotten more, but didn’t want to waste any more time shopping it around. We had to get in line to meet Ryan Dempster.
fesullivan
by waiting4cubs on Jan 18, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
I saw Dempster
I thought he was part of the autograph hunt. My friend and I went to the main room for autographs. That’s where we got Beckert. I thought it was rude that when people found out it was him they left for others. The guy was a great Cubs player for a lot of years.
I would have paid that for a big name autograph. If you have one of those cards are you guaranteed the autograph though? If not, no way.
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
by Musicdude10 on Jan 18, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I agree. If you encounter a player that may not be your #1 choice, the polite thing to do is ask for the autograph, not turn tail and run.
If you want to keep the intended autograph baseball clean for another opportunity, you can always have the player sign your convention pass or a hat or something. I mean, these guys are human beings, and former Chicago Cubs. They wore the uni, folks!
Put yourself in their position. How would you feel? “Oh, it’s just YOU. Nevermind then…” Geez.
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by Zeke on Jan 18, 2010 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Agreed
Rec’d as well
I felt bad for Hoff or a few other guys, who had big names after them and there were HUGE lines for the guy after them and had about 15 people ask for their sig. These are guys who are currently on the team. Show support.
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
by Musicdude10 on Jan 18, 2010 2:39 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
And rec'd
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
Yes, that is very disrespectful.
It’s like when people leave early from a school recital or program when THEIR kid is done with his/her part-incredibly rude.
"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Jan 19, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
Disagree on #2
The only people that having them available helps is the shameless autograph dealers who have line jumping down to a science.
At least with the scratch-offs, every attendee has a chance to win someone. I’d be fine with them doing more scratch-offs, especially given what a disaster the Soto, Dempster, and Lily lines were.
If they did that...
… they’d have to have more sessions with the more popular players — obviously, you wouldn’t want the lines to be LONGER.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Exactly
The lines were more under control this year, due simply to the fact that there weren’t that many “hot” autographs to get, unless you got a scratch-off. Plus adding a second set of stages in the International Ballroom spread out the mess a bit.
Putting popular starters back in the general stages would be a step backwards in my opinion.
I was bored with the autographs
Soto was the big name. I only had two passes and neither won. I think you should be guaranteed ONE big name guy if you do it that way
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
by Musicdude10 on Jan 18, 2010 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
I was in the Lilly Line...
It appeared that everyone who wanted Dempster got him…but the line protocol was a mess.
I did fanfest this summer in STL and there method for autograph lines works better. They put your name on a list and they only take so many names. Then, as you get your autograph they mark your name off. This system is not perfect but it would be better than what they have.
I would like to see something like this or a color coded wristband system. Wristband is cut off after the autograph and stagger the colors in some way to prevent a player getting a koyie hill wristband and then jumping in a Soto line.
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by TheRiot Police on Jan 18, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
What? No love for the '84 team?
Those are my guys! I was nine years old that summer and that team will always be my favorite one (at least until the team that finally wins a World Series replaces them). I have a lot of the ‘84 team (including most of the guys you mentioned) and they’re some of the most cherished ones in my collection.
"I've never taken for granted what we've had, not for one single game, not one single practice, ... I've truly been blessed." - Peyton Manning
mcCormick is better than Rosemont
Can’t move this event out of the city limits. Part of the convention is seeing Chicago, the city. Not lame-o Chicago suburbs.
You're not going to see much of the city from McCormick Place.
It’s pretty isolated.
Eventually, I think they will build enough meeting space in the Triangle Building to hold it there.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
My main complaint about the Hilton
besides its small size, is the feeling of being in a sewer when you’re in the halls in the basement, especially the autograph stages and the vendor browsing area, where the aisles are also much too narrow. In its favor, the Grand Ballroom and the grand staircases are great, historic, Chicago spaces, dating from its creation in 1927 as the Stevens Hotel. In that sense, its consistent with the ballpark as a Chicago landmark. But underneath, just like underneath the stands at Wrigley Field, it can be dingy.
fesullivan
by waiting4cubs on Jan 18, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
Further...
…. cell service is spotty in the hotel, making it difficult to plan meetups with friends.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Third that
Still the clock in the lobby is the best place to meetup or get back to people.
When it was just my best friend and me if we got seperated and lost we’d always just go on our merry way figuring out we’d meet up later so we wouldn’t miss out on anything.
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by puckishcubsfan on Jan 18, 2010 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
True
Although MUCH better than in years past. Once you went downstairs it was a deadzone in years past
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
by Musicdude10 on Jan 18, 2010 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
really?
building enough space even to hold the current Cubs convention would be a ton of space. Outside the Cubs convention, what other purpose would this serve? Further, wouldn’t it make much more sense to utilize such space in the triangle building for retail and parking?
by dmlichte on Jan 18, 2010 11:41 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
cute pic of Ricketts :)
you know the more I see/hear of the Ricketts, the more I can distance myself with the Wrigley name. I am so excited :D
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."--Rogers Hornsby
Hi Emelie, yeah like a cuddly grandfather :)
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."--Rogers Hornsby
by cooliogirl47 on Jan 18, 2010 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
Daddy Ricketts
Got a chance to talk to the patriarch. If the term busting buttons with pride was literal there would be buttons all over the Hilton.
My Dad has done business with these people. He is very excited as a Cubs fan to see them take over the team.
2/18/2010 B&B become a We
by puckishcubsfan on Jan 18, 2010 11:29 AM CST reply actions
Hyatt
The first few years were at the Hyatt. It moved in 1991.
2/18/2010 B&B become a We
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Cubs Con Makes NY Times
I wassurprised to see that the Convention made the New York Times this year. The article manages to mention both curses and 1908, so it may not be worth umping the link.
AlaskaFan
"Year after year after year after year . . . . . after year after year after year . . ." - Steve Goodman, "Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
Interesting article
From an out of town paper, not a bad read. I feel like if it was written from by a Chicago writer, it would have been more sympathetic. Still a good read
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
by Musicdude10 on Jan 18, 2010 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
Good god. I thought it was a reasonable article until they let HWSNBN end it.
I did like this prior passage in the article:
Gilbert Graber, an 84-year-old pig farmer in Mineral Point, Wis., remembered the euphoria he felt in 1945, the last time the Cubs made it to the World Series."I was in the Navy, we were on a destroyer near Okinawa, and we were chipping paint off the ship, and someone said, ‘the Cubs are going to the World Series,’ and I threw my arms around him, and my chipper went overboard," he said. "I got three days of nothing but bread and water for wasting government property."
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by Zeke on Jan 18, 2010 12:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That was a good graf
but the ending of the piece spoiled it. Was HWSNBN allowed make a racket during the convention?
Unfortunately, yes. Comcast even interviewed him on camera apparently...
Further reinforcing to some the “buffoonery” aspect of the Cub Fan image.
Sigh…
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The only thing I saw
of him on CSN was him in a room doing his woo woo’s.
OK I don't know shit about basketball.
by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST
I saw him being interviewed (or doing his act) for the cameras in the main lobby.
It was more than just the usual “woos”, but perhaps that was all Comcast used…
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Maybe they decided to
not go with the interview. Wise choice. ;-)
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by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST
The interview wasn't aired on TV
but it’s on their website.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jan 18, 2010 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, good. Worldwide and forever instead of local and limited time.
;P
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Three stories
Esmalin Caridad is a guy who I think has some promise. Maybe a 4-5 starter. But I remember his debut in Colorado. Z was supposed to start and was scratched so Marshall started and got beaten around pretty bad. Caridad came in and threw a few incredible innings and only gave up one run in his ML debut. I remembered that and was blown away. On Saturday, he was with Wellington Castillo and I brought up the game to him and told him I was excited to see him get another chance this year at showing his stuff. He seemed to really appreciate that, especially when most people were saying “who’s that?” or were in line for whoever was after them. It’s stuff like this, getting to meet and share appreciation with the players that really makes the conventions special.
Meeting Cashner and Jackson was almost unreal. My Saturday experience wasn’t as good as years past but I saw who was on tap for Sunday and made sure to get there early. My brother, a Cubs fan but not nearly as diehard as me, didn’t get it. I’m not an expert by any means for our farm system but I know the big names and I know a lot about them (mostly from guys like Josh77 and toonsterwu, so thank you guys and anyone else who provides info on the kids). We got there at six and got to get both of them. Both were very nice and like Caridad, seemed to really appreciate that I had said stuff like “excited to see you in pinstripes” or “can’t wait to see you at Wrigley”, etc. Jackson talked to me for a few minutes (small line, so sad) and shook my hand and took a picture with me. Really cool stuff. You don’t get that from the big name players. I’m sure they were excited just to be there but I was just as excited to meet them.
Finally, on Saturday, Ryan Theriot was signing at three. Having just gotten out of the line for Caridad and Castillo (slotted at 1 PM), I saw the lines for both Theriot and Byrd and realized that I probably should have gotten in line right after I got Soto at 10 AM. Oh well. I saw that Hoffpauir was at the stage over from Caridad/Castillo and there was a short line. As an autograph hawk, I started moving towards that line. The exit from the C/C line was right next to the Hoff line and nobody was there, so I jumped over the rope figuring that nobody would care because nobody was inline for Hoff (they wanted Theriot). And suddenly a woman yells out at me “WHAT THE F*CK ARE YOU DOING?!?!”. Pretty loudly too. I said “Hoffpauir” and pointed towards the line and she said “GET THE F*CK IN LINE LIKE THE REST OF US!!!” to which I responded with “I want Hoffpauir” to no avail. So I got out of the line, went around the pole to the proper entrance to the line and went in….without a problem. The staff member said “Hoffpauir or Theriot” and I said Hoff and she let me in. So I asked why I couldn’t do that over there and the woman said “Because that woman is not very nice”. I had some other descriptions for “not nice”. Listen folks: I am not a Theriot hater but just because you have a crush on him doesn’t mean you have a right to yell at me. I’m not an idiot. People know what lines are and how to follow them.
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
As the old saying goes when someone shoots their yap off like that:
“Nice mouth. You kiss your spouse with THAT?”
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I like that
Never heard it before. Made me chuckle though
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
Esmalin Caridad
When I was in line for Trammell on Sunday Caridad was at the stage next to him. There weren’t a whole lot of people going up and they had him up there by himself. I was tempted to hop over to get his autograph but by the time I realized what was going on I had already committed a lot of time to Trammell.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
Saw the same thing
And saw it with Hoffpauir as well. If I hadn’t gotten both of them the day before I would have gotten them for sure
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
Oh and Trammel is really cool
Bunch of people had his card and everything. Nice to see people know and respect HOF’ers who may not have been on the Cubs or even in the same league. That’s why I think Cubs fans are up there for best in baseball
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
Tram isn't an HOFer- yet. He and Lou Whitaker SHOULD be in the HOF IMHO.
Tram was the essence of the Tigers in the 1980s and 1990s. Sparky Anderson taught him well.
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Really?
Why did I think he was? That’s a shame though, he was a good player
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
He was a great player, able to adapt to whatever the Tigers needed from him.
Some years it was leadoff, some years it was RBIs and HRs. And his glove work speaks for itself. He and Lou W. hold the MLB record for longest serving DP combo (18 years) that in this day and age, will never be broken.
Read all about why BOTH should be in the HOF
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You just ruined any credibility for your case by citing a Bleacher Report article.
I won’t even give them the click-through.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Aw c'mon Al.
I saw Tram and Lou play their entire careers with the Tigers. I know it’s a biased opinion, but I really feel they do belong. If they had played 18 years side by side in NY, they’d be a shoo-in.
As for bleacherreport, even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in awhile…
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I think Whitaker and Trammell...
… were very good players for a long time. To me, they’re in the Hall of Very Good, not HoF quality.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Well, I did say I was biased ;)
Where IS the Hall of Very Good by the way? I’d like to visit it someday when I retire…
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definitely.
He was a really nice guy. He definitely seemed to be enjoying himself.
I gotta find a case for his ball. that was my last autograph of a weekend that featured: Trammell, Zambrano and Sutcliffe, and also included guys like Randy Wells, Micah Hoffpauir, Marlon Byrd, Steve Trout, and Andrew Cashner
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
Yeah, several of us have been asking that for a while.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-Rogers Hornsby-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jan 18, 2010 11:48 PM CST up reply actions
Pitchers & catchers report four weeks from Thursday!
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Mrs. Zeke is already asking me to get Opening Day tickets...
…and this was after saying prior to the convention that she didn’t want to sit though another cold, miserable OD.
She said “Of course, if we don’t get tickets, it’ll be sunny and 75!”
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Attended Convention for the first time this year
and perhaps it was the company or maybe it was just because I had no expectations going in but I really enjoyed myself. I attended a lot of the panels over going for autographs, although I was lucky enough to get a Derrek Lee autograph due to a generous friend giving me her scratch off winner. The line moved plenty fast (probably because photos weren’t really allowed) so I was out of there in plenty of time to see the next session I wanted but the disappointing thing was that they allowed people to line up much earlier than the ticket said was allowed. You weren’t supposed to be able to line up any earlier than 10:30 am and when I headed up around 10:10 hoping to get a peek at Andre Dawson as he was leaving his signing, the line was already out of the ballroom door. Don’t know why they bothered posting a line up time if they weren’t going to enforce it.
Just out of curiosity, anyone here know a final head count for attendance over the weekend? I agree that the Hilton seems to be a little bit too small to host the event, especially after I witnessed the atrocity that was the line for Dempster/Lilly autographs.
by cubbiebluekdawg on Jan 18, 2010 3:33 PM CST reply actions
I had the same problem with the Zambrano scratch off. I got to the room about 1:30 cause I wasn't sure how the set up was.
and there were already about 150 people there. That being said, it did move fast.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
Yeah, same thing for me and Ernie.
The voucher said the line will START at 3:30pm. At 3:15pm, there had to be a hundred people already in line. It was nuts. They stopped letting people in the ballroom immediately after Mrs. Zeke and I got in there.
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15,000 is the ballpark. I don't think the Cubs revealed an actual "turnstile" (if you will) count.
Glad you enjoyed the Convention. I did too. It’s just a very tiring experience with the sensory & people overload.
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Hey Drew-Steve Rosenbloom's new Blog is out. Does it sound familiar?
Cubs manager Loon Piniella is back to showing why he’s stealing $4 million a year.
Last season, it was June when he said he was out of answers for his team’s struggling offense and was threatening to pull his lineup out of a hat. Nice. The guy in charge of leadership was done before the All-Star break.
This season, Piniella sounds like he’s useless before the end of the Cubs Convention. Get a load of Piniella’s answer when a fan asked why it took so long for a failing Alfonso Soriano to be moved from the leadoff spot:
“He was signed here for a lot of money because of the success he had out of the leadoff spot. When he got here, Alfonso was stealing 40-45 bases a year. But he didn’t anymore, and we made a decision, with Soriano’s consent, to move him to the sixth spot. Now we’re not looking at him as a leadoff hitter anymore. Now he’s more of a tail-end of the middle lineup kind of hitter. Hopefully he can hit fifth for us. We’ll see.”
The operative phrase there - the one that indicts Piniella - is "with Soriano’s consent.’’ This is as bad, as enabling, as pathetic as Dusty Baker, Sammy Sosa, and the three-spot.
"With Soriano’s consent.’’ Really? That’s just embarrassing. Do the Ricketts kids know they’re paying $4 million for a cruise director?
And another thing: Piniella said he hoped Soriano could bat fifth this season. Piniella also said he hoped Marlon Byrd could bat fifth. Lots of guys batting fifth there. I guess the first one to give Piniella his consent gets to hit fifth.
He gets what the normal Cub fans were thinking about that comment. Unlike you who was more worried about the usage of a word.
Does he need an English lesson too?
by TJ11 on Jan 18, 2010 3:45 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I can't decide if your desperate trolling of Drew is sad or hilarious
I think I’ll go with tragicomic.
by Wreckard on Jan 18, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I knew this would happen, very predictable.....I expect a few more
He can pull weird stats out of his ass to try and prove his points but when I pull in some backup its trolling….Can you tell me where I was wrong in my opinion? Of course that fact is ignored.
The double standard is outstanding……
I honestly don't really know or care what you're arguing about
So don’t play like I’m taking sides in your internet meltdown here dude.
An unsolicited posts in a new thread where you beg for a response from another poster about an argument that’s already run its course is textbook trolling.
Your persecution complex is hilariously misplaced if you think Drew is defended unfairly around here. He’s one of the most picked-on posters on the site.
I will ask you.....
Does Lou need Soriano’s consent to move him in the lineup?
That was the simple question that could not be handled…..
See this is exactly what
I was referring to in my post to you last night. You are trolling.
OK I don't know shit about basketball.
by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST
the argument is about WORDS dude....
use them wisely, understand their meaning and maybe you’ll be less likely to get into an argument over nothing at ALL.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."--Rogers Hornsby
by cooliogirl47 on Jan 18, 2010 6:39 PM CST up reply actions
What you are doing
is called baiting. It needs to stop.
OK I don't know shit about basketball.
by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST
sue, is it my imagination? but TJ seems to be vanishing and Bl** is appearing.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."--Rogers Hornsby
by cooliogirl47 on Jan 18, 2010 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
I think the only
thing they have in common is both are annoying.
OK I don't know shit about basketball.
by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST
true that!
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."--Rogers Hornsby
by cooliogirl47 on Jan 18, 2010 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
Hah.
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by AndrewJStone on Jan 19, 2010 5:29 PM CST up reply actions
wow, you just kicked yourself in the a$$
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."--Rogers Hornsby
by cooliogirl47 on Jan 18, 2010 6:34 PM CST up reply actions
You really need to drop the subject.
That argument should have ended yesterday, and not brought into this thread, too.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-Rogers Hornsby-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jan 18, 2010 11:49 PM CST up reply actions
The original question I asked has yet to be answered.....
It wasn’t about words. That was part of his stupid response.
I guess I will just take it as all of you think Lou has to get permission ( I am sorry, get their “consent” ) to move people, especially Soriano, in the lineup.
in your mind it will never BE answered....it is beyond your realm of thinking now...just drop it my son.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."--Rogers Hornsby
by cooliogirl47 on Jan 18, 2010 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
Nobody is answering...
… because nobody cares anymore.
Except you.
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by AndrewJStone on Jan 19, 2010 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
On this site it will never be answered.....
I am asking you and sue, not Drew…He can’t ever answer anything straight.
What is YOUR opinion on the question?
Do YOU believe Lou should have to ask permission to move a player in the line up?
Here's my answer -
I don’t give a shit about it.
OK I don't know shit about basketball.
by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST
by sue369 on Jan 18, 2010 9:03 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
LOL...you go girl
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."--Rogers Hornsby
by cooliogirl47 on Jan 18, 2010 9:05 PM CST up reply actions
Nice....
You guys are kool aid drinkers like Drew.
The Cubs and Lou can do no wrong.
He might as well just ask everyone where they want to play and bat.
ooooo you're so mean
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."--Rogers Hornsby
by cooliogirl47 on Jan 18, 2010 9:07 PM CST up reply actions
:D
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."--Rogers Hornsby
by cooliogirl47 on Jan 18, 2010 9:07 PM CST up reply actions
TJ11...would you rec'd sue's post above so it will turn green?
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."--Rogers Hornsby
by cooliogirl47 on Jan 18, 2010 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
Hello, BLou.
How are your Cardinals shaping up for 2010?
"People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-Rogers Hornsby-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jan 18, 2010 11:51 PM CST up reply actions
I guess it does not matter
I can ask a simple question but if you don’t like the messenger you ignore it.
I put up a post that shows that the Tribune writer agrees with me and of course people feel the need to defend their own instead of seeing that I may have a point.
Very predictable…..
its the I dont give a shit post
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."--Rogers Hornsby
by cooliogirl47 on Jan 18, 2010 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
Which has been deleted...
"People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-Rogers Hornsby-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jan 19, 2010 9:38 AM CST up reply actions
Regardless of whether you're right or wrong
Using Steve Rosenbloom to back up your claim isn’t going to help your cause
he's wrong
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."--Rogers Hornsby
by cooliogirl47 on Jan 18, 2010 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
Finally an answer
You disagree with me and Rosenbloom that Lou should not have to ask permission to move players.
Was that so hard?
I disagree with you that Lou never asked Soriano for his PERMISSION to bat him elsewhere,
he had Soriano’s CONSENT to play him elsewhere in the line-up…that means he did not order him, he did not ask him if it was ok, he discussed it and they both agreed it was the right thing to do.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."--Rogers Hornsby
by cooliogirl47 on Jan 18, 2010 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
My point is that it does not matter where Soriano wants to hit. Its up to the manager.
Who cares what Soriano wants or any other player for that matter. It boggles the mind that there needed to be a discussion at all.
really? TJ if that was your point this thing would not have carried on this far....lets just call time out on this.
if it ends here we’ll all be good tomorrow…and we can all move on together. OK? :)
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."--Rogers Hornsby
by cooliogirl47 on Jan 18, 2010 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
I really hope...
…you don’t now, nor ever will, manage other human beings for a living.
Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.
by daver on Jan 19, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rosenbloom? its just us here....BCB...you, me, BCB...I dont give a shit about Rosenbloom
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."--Rogers Hornsby
by cooliogirl47 on Jan 18, 2010 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
BLouthering BLoudiot
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze
Very OT:
If you have a red shirt, WEAR IT TOMORROW to show support for the people of Haiti.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-Rogers Hornsby-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jan 18, 2010 11:56 PM CST reply actions
Thanks Al and everyone else
for your excellent detailed posts/comments on the Convention. It was the next best thing to being there.
"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
Does anyone else
want to just give Joe Ricketts a biiiig hug?
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