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Cubs Historic Photos: 19th In A Series

There are two Hall of Famers in this photo. One should be fairly easy to identify. The other, perhaps not... but give it some thought and you should be able to make the connection. Answers after the jump.

The identity of the catcher should give you a clue, too.

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There are almost no clues in this photo as to the date it was taken, particularly if you have identified the two Hall of Famers. I figured it would be pretty easy for you to ID Willie Mays, who is sliding in safe at the plate as the ball arrives late to Randy Hundley.

Looking at the other man in the photo, he's wearing a jacket -- that likely makes him a pitcher, and that should have given you the obvious clue, even though his number is only partially visible. It's Gaylord Perry; he and Mays were Giants teammates from 1962-1971.

That fact would have made it nearly impossible to sleuth it out, so let's use other clues. The presence of Randy Hundley at catcher narrows it down to 1966-71. Gaylord Perry started 10 games at Wrigley Field in those six seasons. The shadows and the short sleeves worn by Hundley eliminate two early-season games; Mays didn't play in two of the other eight, and of the six now remaining, Mays didn't score a run in two of them.

Now, we eliminate June 6, 1970, because the run Mays scored that day was on a two-run homer, no reason to slide. Same for his run on September 20, 1967; scored from first on a triple. Mays could have made a slide to score on July 22, 1967 -- but his run was in the top of the eighth inning and Perry didn't start that game, he came in the game in relief in the last of the eighth, so he'd have been in the bullpen at the time.

That leaves one game and two possible runs scored, both on sacrifice flies, on July 29, 1968. The Giants won the game 4-1. The first run Mays scored in the second inning tied the game at 1; the second was the fourth and final run of the game. I'm going to go with the latter; it's a late-July game and the angle of the sun appears to make it a bit later than the then-1:35 pm game time. Perry threw a two-hitter that day; Don Kessinger got both hits.

Remember, you can buy this original photo and many other Cubs and Chicago-related photos from Leo Bauby on eBay -- search for seller "suntimesphotoarchive".

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I correctly ID'd Hundley, but not Mays....nor Perry.

Mr. Casey says that he thinks it’s earlier in the game because he thinks the shadows would be longer if it was later. I’m trying to get him interested in BCB although he still mainly rolls his eyes at me for spending so much time here.

"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Jan 24, 2010 9:45 AM CST reply actions  

Oh and thanks Al for continuing to post these wonderful photos.

Your take on them is more fun to read than Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.

"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Jan 24, 2010 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks!

Remember, the date was July 29 — still midsummer. Game length was 2:17, so it would have been over before 4:00. Even at 3 pm (say) in the sixth inning, the shadows wouldn’t have been that long, but the angle indicates slightly to the west.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jan 24, 2010 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

LOL

Got my hands full already!

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jan 24, 2010 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

.....

"Only a mediocre person is always at his best." ~W. Somerset Maugham

by Goodie1969 on Jan 24, 2010 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

great work as always, Al

Good sleuthing. Last time I tried using Clues like this I came up with Barry Bonds with the needle at the Candlestick!

"I showed him the cheese then punched him out with the yakker." -- Eck

by kentmeister on Jan 24, 2010 11:05 AM CST reply actions  

I agree it is the second run

When Mays scored the first run, the batter was Bob Barton, the 7th place hitter. So if it was that run, Perry would have still been in the dugout. I doubt he ran out to home plate.

For the second run, the batter was 8th place hitter Hal Lanier. Perry would have been in the on-deck circle and much more likely to have been in the picture.

by rlpete on Jan 24, 2010 11:41 AM CST reply actions  

brilliant deduction!!!

"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Jan 24, 2010 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

That essentially proves that it was the second run that Mays scored.

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-Rogers Hornsby-

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jan 24, 2010 8:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep.

Thanks for the backup.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jan 25, 2010 7:33 AM CST up reply actions  

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