Cards sign Rich Hill
Crap, Hill will probably be awesome after some of Duncan's dark magic.
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The Cardinals generally do better with our castoffs...
…than we do with theirs. I don’t see that happening this time.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Duncan can fix arms.
The problem with Hill isn’t his arm.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
exactly. See Ankiel for proof
Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou
Actually, Rich had shoulder surgery last August.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jan 26, 2010 4:46 PM CST up reply actions
Like I said.
The problem with Hill isn’t his arm.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Not always.
Gary Gaetti and Jim Edmonds both helped us make the playoffs in ’98 and ’08. Granted, from Ernie Broglio to Aaron Miles, there were quite a few that went the other way.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
I know he wasn't the greatest pitcher
but Marquis was a serviceable 5th starter while he was here.
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agreed 100%
Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou
So who do we get in '18 to continue the trend?
PUJOLS
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
Hey! Aaron Miles is a nice lady!
To eliminate exclusion, we cut out the differences to feel like we belong.
I would not doubt if Hill became an effective starter
With Duncan, I could see him improving greatly. Hill is the perfect case of a pitcher with great stuff who just has a couple things you need to tweek.
Start Sean Marshall!!
maybe they want Hill to play CF to replace ANkiel
Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou
He'll throw his big curveball from the outfield.
Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.
Right
Aim at 3B to hit home.
"I'd rather hit home runs you don't have to run as hard." -- Dave Kingman
by BucknerKongCardenal on Jan 26, 2010 11:20 PM CST up reply actions
Chuckle chuckle
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
OMG, that's it!
I can’t believe I didn’t see this angle. Look for Hill to hit 25 dingers this season and gun down 20 runners from right field platooning with Ryan Ludwick.
BOOK IT!
Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.
Really?
Are you saying his control problems had nothing to do with his torn labrum?
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
He'll go 20-3
with a 2.30 ERA, Damn you Dave Duncan!!!!
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
Not even Dave Duncan can resurrect a one pitch pitcher
I won’t lose sleep about this signing. More than likely the Cards just acquired Triple A roster filler.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
He probably will be, but it is just interesting because he was an ex-Cub.
Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.
I agree with most here
Second I read that I got a gut feeling that this will blow up in the Cubs face…
Rich Hill used to be the oldest...
… young pitching prospect in the Cubs system.
Rich Hill was often compared to Barry Zito. Hill is only two years younger than Zito.
"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009
Pitchers can't pitch when they're 30?
I’ll be sure to let like 50% of major league pitchers know that.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
Sure, but...
… most pitchers who are any good have made an impact by the time they’re 30.
Rich Hill had one good season, and that was three years ago.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
So, you're saying that, if healthy,
there’s no way in hell he could even be a 5th starter for the Cardinals behind Carpenter, Wainwright, Penny, and Lohse.
They aren’t looking for a top end guy. Just a 5th starter and since he’s only signed to a minor league contract, it’s pretty much a no-lose acquisition for the Cardinals.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
I suppose.
I just think Hill has more issues than whatever was wrong with his arm last year.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Some might think the labrum was a problem further back than just last year.
Kerry Wood had problems with velo and such for years. Same with Prior (who I know is no favorite around here) before an actual injury was found.
Nevertheless, who knows about Hill. He very well could be Mark Prior and prove to be worthless. But, I tend to think Hill has a little more internal desire (pride….gumption….whatever you want to call it) than Prior does, so maybe he gets it back on track now that (if…) he’s healthy.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
All I'm saying is
If he wasn’t signing in the NL Central I’d feel different…
Parisi
Payback?
Cards are thin at SP options, which might be one of the reasons Hendry drafted Parisi to begin with,
"I'd rather hit home runs you don't have to run as hard." -- Dave Kingman
by BucknerKongCardenal on Jan 26, 2010 11:24 PM CST reply actions
not exactly
after carpenter, wainwright, lohse, and penny, they have garcia, hawksworth, boggs, mcclellan, walters, ottavino and jukich on the 40 man. all have a chance to be the fifth starter or spot start this season. beyond that they also have options such as maclane, mortensen, and now hill.
a few possible high upside guys and a bunch of probably league average or worse guys. not an incredibly deep list of talent, but options nonetheless.
garcia, hawksworth, boggs, mcclellan, walters, ottavino, jukich, maclane, motensen...
And don’t forget maybe Ryan Franklin can re-invent himself as a starter.
With all those options I can see why they would sign Hill.
"I'd rather hit home runs you don't have to run as hard." -- Dave Kingman
by BucknerKongCardenal on Jan 27, 2010 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
You guys are missing the point...
we suck balls against soft-tossing lefthanders. Advantage St. Louis.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jan 27, 2010 1:06 AM CST reply actions
we got some new guys....maybe they can hit soft-tossing lefties.
baseball.........is Kool Aid the remedy, or the cause of my desire for it
by cooliogirl47 on Jan 27, 2010 7:21 PM CST up reply actions
Hope so.
Maybe Rudy Jaramillo can help, too.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh man this is great. Thanks for making the division that much more winnable for us.
Mechanics are one thing, but Hill has issues in his head. I don’t think you’re going to see Duncan be able to fix that
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
They didn't put him on the major league roster or install him as their #1 starter
I don’t think this affected our ability to win the division in any significant way.
If he is in their rotation
Then they did help us
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
Except, he's not
If he is, that would probably be because he had been playing well enough to earn the spot. I don’t think they’re going to try to force it just to try to stick it to the Cubs.
Exactly
as a Cub fan, you really don’t want to see him in the Cardinal rotation because that means he’s fixed whatever ailed him.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
I don't think they'd force it
But stupid baseball decisions have been made and the Cardinals are not an exception. It’s possible. I don’t know what the Cardinals have as far as depth
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
by Musicdude10 on Jan 27, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
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