Marlins Make Offer To Ex-Cub Kevin Gregg
Via another tweet from Ken Rosenthal. Some teams never learn.
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3 years, $60 Mil backloaded?
SARCASM
I wish him well, he was not great, but we have had much worse before
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on and off the field
he acted professional and I hope he does well. No hard feelings from me
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by Cubbie-Tim on Jan 31, 2010 6:26 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Alfonseca, Rojas, Hawkins ...
Gregg was better than all of them (depending on the criteria). He actually pitched quite well from May to August.
It’s interesting that Gregg turned into a pumpkin in the Florida series RIGHT after the trade deadline. The timing was bad, because I bet if he had blown up a month earlier, the Cubs would have tried to get somebody to replace him before the deadline.
well, maybe
In that scenario, they could have tried to acquire a righty setup guy to take Marmol’s job.
Or a lefty
Like…Grabow?
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
I liked him.
I didn’t think he was awful. You didn’t know what you’d get but he wasn’t terrible. I certainly wish him the best of luck.
in many ways it is like Glendon Rusch
nothing to write home about, but a class act
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Yes, he was a decent guy.
Just didn’t pitch well.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Don't let your memory deceive you - he really was terrible.
When your closer allows 13 HR, there are going to be serious problems. Especially when he’s allowing 60 hits and 32 walks in less than 70 innings, and throws 7 wild pitches.
The 7 blown saves in 30 tries don’t even seem that out of the ordinary when you look at how terribly he got pounded.
That said, of course we wish him the best of luck, except when he’s pitching against the Cubs! (In which case we’d like some of the 1.7 HR he allowed per 9 last year, please.)
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Noooo, you fools!
He was gone, vanished, out of your life for good. You were free.
What are you thinking?!?
"Only a mediocre person is always at his best." ~W. Somerset Maugham
Gregg is now working backwards back to the Angels
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Does that mean he finishes his career at Corvallis High School?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
as a coach, maybe
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Towel boy.
Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.
He wasn't that bad of a pitcher for the Marlins
He did have 61 saves in two years for them. He had a high ERA and WHIP for a closer, but he seemed relatively effective for them.
My only complaint about Gregg (and perhaps this is like asking Ms. Lincoln “Other than that how the play?”) was his location. He had some pretty good pitches, but when he was a bit off and getting into deep counts he’d lay one right down the middle that would get crushed. IMHO, he was very close to being a very good closer, but close doesn’t count.
by jerry morales rules on Feb 1, 2010 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
my guess?
Gregg didn’t allow as many HRs in Florida because he pitched in a bigger park for half of his games. Also, the NL East parks in general (Citi and Shea, Turner, Miami) are more forgiving than those in the NL Central (Wrigley, Great American, Minute Maid).
Just nitpicking
But while Gregg was on the Marlins, Citi field was not in use yet.
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
yeah, I knew that
I was talking about the East parks being more forgiving going forward. But Shea was a cavern, too.
He had 9 blown saves in 2008.
Even though his ERA stats looked alright in 2007-08, 29 saves and 9 blown saves is not effective.
In fact, it resulted in him losing the closer role for the 2008 Marlins.
Frankly, when a guy is blowing 1/4 save opps for his career, it’s kind of remarkable that he managed to hold down closing roles over three straight seasons.
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how many blown saves were his fault?
this is like using fielding percentage for defensive comparisions.
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The Daryle Ward one certainly was.
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by D98 on Feb 2, 2010 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
Some teams never learn
I don’t know, I think they learned that they can trade away some guy for a year and get young talent back, then just resign the guy they traded away the next year.
Which team is the fool now?
"You’re playing a baseball game. You’re not playing Tiddlywinks. There is competition, for God’s sake."— Lou Piniella
in the Marlins organization
not in ours…
the Marlins got good production out of Gregg when he was there, in fact Gregg’s been a better reliever his entire career than John Grabow until last year
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Jan 31, 2010 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
those 9 blown saves in 2008 is really good production
by jesus christos on Jan 31, 2010 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
terrific metric
Jonathan Broxton blew 8 saves in 2008, KRod 7 saves in 2009. I suppose you’d be ready to throw these guys to the curb as well based on a simplistic evaluation that references just blown saves to discuss value
well done
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Feb 1, 2010 7:55 AM CST up reply actions
He stunk in 2008. They removed him from the closer role.
Gregg started walking tons of people, striking out fewer people, and blowing a sizeable percentage of the leads he was handed.
The Marlins had had enough, but the Cubs were intrigued by Gregg’s ability to give up that 500+ foot HR to Daryle Ward in a gigantic stadium.
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yet
he was infinitely better than John Grabow
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1793&position=P#value
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1848&position=P#value
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Feb 2, 2010 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
Well in that case, I recant my argument that Grabow was better than Gregg in 2008
Wait, what? What does that have to do with anything?
(I’m pretty sure that I have not mentioned John Grabow in any respect.)
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by D98 on Feb 2, 2010 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
follow the thread you hopped in on
my original argument was that gregg > grabow, and that the Marlins got good production out of Gregg while he was there
jesus christos responded with a snarky comment citing a poor metric. I responded with a snary comment and an example of how poor the metric was
you then hopped in explaining how he stunk in ’08, with a poor anecdote acting as your evidence
i then pointed to the numbers indicating his worth in ’08 and tied it up referring back to the original point vs. grabow
0.7 WAR in 2008 isn’t a bad reliever
do you understand now?
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Feb 2, 2010 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
You seem to be the only person who has brought up Grabow at all.
And rather incongrously. And only once.
This entire page is pretty clearly a discussion of Gregg’s merit. A comparison to John Grabow is completely irrelevant. One is a righty closer, the other a lefty setup man.
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by D98 on Feb 2, 2010 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
Just keep in mind that Dartmouth has a bug up his butt about Grabow.
All the rest will make sense.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
additionally
i have a bug up my butt about the seeming arrogant attitude this site take towards other organizations.
We ridicule the Royals organization for their incompetence
We ridicule the Reds for trading for Aaron Miles
We ridicule the Marlins for showing interest in Kevin Gregg
All the while we largely turn a blind eye towards mistakes made internally. Often times ridiculing another organization for a mistake that we’ve ALREADY made or are in the process of making. We conveniently ignore that these organizations have largely had much more successful histories than we have.
The hypocrisy and arrogance bothers me.
If you’re a Cubs fan you have enough issues within your own front office to pay attention to, you shouldn’t need to wax rhapsodic about other organization’s potential mistakes.
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Feb 2, 2010 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
Often times ridiculing another organization for a mistake that we’ve ALREADY made
Which puts us in a unique position of experience to be able to point out the folly of certain moves. None of us is Jim Hendry, thus, none of us has actually made any of these moves. The fact that we cheer for the team in the blue pinstripes does not make us blind to mistakes other organizations also make, or the ones that our favorite organization makes, for that matter. Why shouldn’t we be able to comment when we sense folly?
"Only a mediocre person is always at his best." ~W. Somerset Maugham
i just think its hypocritical
to ridicule the Royals for signing Podsednik when we signed Marlon Byrd for 3 years
I think its hypocritical to ridicule any teams pursuit of Kevin Gregg when we gave John Grabow 2 years
Not only that but in the Marlins we’re ridiculing a franchise that has been superior to us in every way outside of fan support.
Plus this is something we often complain about other teams or other broadcasts. We get frustrated with other teams/broadcasts that pepper us with images of the Goat or the Curse or so on so forth. We get upset for other networks or franchises (the Marlins marketing stunts, etc) for feeling the need to rub our faces in it. For them not focusing on current storylines or celebrating their own history, but having to focus on the negatives associated with our squad
so why the heck do we need to do the same? We’ve got enough of our own problems, why don’t we keep the focus here.
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Feb 2, 2010 9:00 PM CST up reply actions
Marlon Byrd provides 41 more points of SLG, and more than 10 more points of OPS+ for his career. Over the last three years, Byrd has had an OPS+ of 113, whereas Pods has 79.
Career in center field, Pods has an UZR of -12.7. Byrd has an UZR of 0.2.
In 2010, Pods is projected to have a WAR of 0.45, Byrd a WAR of 2.5.
Scott Posednik =/= Marlon Byrd.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Feb 2, 2010 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
you're right
they don’t equal one another, but the mistakes are from the same concept.
The Cubs have signed mid level FA OF year after year with largely failed results. Meanwhile they’ve eschewed the few OF’s they’ve developed after limited stints (Pie, Patterson), by trying to make them something they’re not. Trying to turn Pie/Patterson into disciplined top of the order hitters and not appreciating what they are (great defensive CFs with some pop)
Now this will ultimately diverge into an argument about the merits of Pie/Patterson, which again is besides the point.
The point is: We’re ridiculing another franchise for making poor FA signings and not developing from within
Really? What kind of glass house are we living in?
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Feb 3, 2010 8:48 AM CST up reply actions
except
you’re comparing Byrd to Posednik and saying “look, two terrible signings” when Byrd is CLEARLY better than Posednik, and has been for some time.
You know I wish the Cubs had kept Pie and used him properly. But they didn’t. Someone has to play center, Byrd is not bad at it. Furthermore, you’re equating the way the Royals operate with the way the Cubs do. The Royals are far more akin to the Pirates.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Feb 3, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
again
you’re missing the forest for the trees
i can argue reasons against the Byrd signing comparatively to the Podsednik signing, specifically the difference in cost and years but that dilutes the overall point
the point is we haven’t won a world series in over 100 years. We haven’t been to a world series in over 60 years. We’ve only been to the playoffs 6 times in the last 60 years
We’re not a model franchise, we should stop thumbing our nose at other organizations and acting like we are. We’ve got our own issues as an organization, why don’t we keep the focus here.
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Feb 3, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
Again with the 100 years.
I repeat what I’ve posted before: the current ownership has been in charge for three months, the current field manager for three years, the current GM for a little less than eight years.
Now, if you want to compare the Cubs’ success over those time periods with the Royals or Pirates, I’m right there with you.
“6 times in 60 years”. How about six times in the last 25 years? Sound a little better? How about three of the last seven?
Let the ignorant national media do the 100-year bashing. Amongst ourselves, we should know better.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
we should know better
which is why we shouldn’t harp on other teams potential mistakes
we should know what it feels like when people are piling on for no good reason.
Why don’t we act like we know it and stop ridiculing other organizations for bad moves and take a look at some of our own with the same scope.
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Feb 3, 2010 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
funny, I think the same thing in return. You see this vast group of free agents and say “they all suck!” when clearly, Byrd is better than Pods.
I don’t think anyone is losing focus on the Cubs’ problems. We simply differ from you in how the Cubs should fix them.
No one on the team was on the team 100 or even 60 years ago. Forget about those times. They don’t matter. This team has ONE guy on it from 2003.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Feb 3, 2010 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
sigh
“I don’t think anyone is losing focus on the Cubs’ problems. We simply differ from you in how the Cubs should fix them.”
NOT THE POINT
unless you think ridiculing other teams is how to fix the Cubs. Then yes it would be relevant how you and I think the Cubs should approach things.
The point is why do we carry this air of superiority when judging other teams moves?
Furthermore why when teams make similar mistakes or moves to ones we’ve just made why are we critical of them after having just lauded the same move on our end?
This is the point I think you’re getting at that you disagree with. We’re not making the same mistakes. Fine I’ll agree to disagree. Even so what is the point of hammering on other organizations and carrying this air of superiority?
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Feb 3, 2010 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
All I know is, there’s a difference between signing Marlon Byrd, who is competent at his job, and Scott Posednick, who is not.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Feb 3, 2010 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
incongruous perhaps
but as a comparison point it makes sense when responding specifically to someone who lauded the Grabow signing and is now laughing at the Gregg inquiries
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Feb 2, 2010 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
It seems like he didn't pitch in '09
I didn’t realize he was hurt.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
Yep
in the Marlins organization
Along with the guy they traded away for him.
Don’t get me wrong, I won’t miss Gopherball Gregg, but I seem to remember giving up good talent for a general flop while pushing Kerry Wood out the door. Al, I seem to remember you expressing your unhappiness in trading Ceda away that day.
And yes, I am playing devil’s advocate of sorts.
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I was unhappy about trading Ceda at the time.
Doesn’t look like Ceda’s going to amount to much, though.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
paying Wood $20 million
Probably wouldn’t have been a good idea, either.
Paying him near the minimum
Which is what he said he would sign for, would have been
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
Kerry Wood ...
would NOT have signed for $400k to return. Sorry.
Paying him near the minimum
Which is what he said he would sign for, would have been a decent one though
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
Do you have a link with Wood saying that?
He admitted during the season that he had been seeking a multi-year deal.
No way would he have signed for $400,000. Not a chance.
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by Shanghai Badger on Feb 1, 2010 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
it was less about $$$ and more about the years
While Wood was understanding about the Cubs’ decision, which Hendry said was made in the best interests of Wood and his family, he did say he would’ve been amenable to staying and “would have done anything” to stay a Cub. The Cubs told him to go get a three- or four-year deal for more money, but Wood said he would’ve agreed to a one-year deal to stay.
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That's true.
But it doesn’t say anything abut “minimum salary”.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Not only that
But I have to beleive the union would have thrown a fit if someone with Wood’s service time, at age 31, had signed for the minimum. Especially after coming off a very good 2008 season.
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by Shanghai Badger on Feb 2, 2010 9:01 AM CST up reply actions
Given what we paid for Gregg (both money and prospect)
And given the year Wood had in 2008, I would have retained Wood. You could have backloaded a 2 year deal
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I wouldn't have.
Wood did not have a good 2009 and the Cubs did NOT need another backloaded contract (one more and Sam Fuld would have been our CF on Opening Day). Gregg was acquired, I believe, to give Marmol one more year as a setup guy. Gregg wasn’t a good fit, but the idea of only needing one more year — as opposed to two from Wood — made sense.
As for the one-year deal comments … I kinda think Wood was trying to show his appreciation for Chicago and Cubs fans by exaggerating. That’s just my opinion, though.
The 2009 Cubs failed because of Aramis got hurt and the Cubs didn’t have a suitable backup at third. They failed because Bradley (setting aside the off-field stuff) wasn’t a No. 5 hitter/lefty basher. They failed because their top four starters all spent time on the DL. They failed because Soto, Soriano and Fontenot were all major disappointments.
After all of those reasons, I’d put Kerry’s departure and the acquisition of Gregg.
Letting Wood go wasn't a bad baseball decision
Given his likely demands and his injury history.
I hope he’s a lights-out closer this year, but I can’t fault Hendry for that.
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by Shanghai Badger on Feb 2, 2010 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
i agree that he wanted more than 400k
it just seems that the money was not the main issue, but the legnth of the contract
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Better numbers for playing in a pitchers park
And in a low pressure situation in Florida. Not the same as Chicago
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He had some kind of arm surgery last year.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jan 31, 2010 9:33 PM CST up reply actions
Wasn't it knee surgery?
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shoulder
he’s supposed to be ready to go in spring training
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Feb 1, 2010 7:57 AM CST up reply actions
Ah. I see.
Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.
I wish he was going to a team in the Central Division.
It would be like getting Alfonseca back a year after we got rid of him. WHY?
Enjoy, Marlins!
Kevin Gregg's biggest mistake really wasn't his fault.
He simply tried to follow Kerry Wood. In retrospect, he never had a chance.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
what?
His numerous gopher balls had nothing to do with “following Kerry Wood” that’s utter nonsense. The guy wasn’t good. He just wasnt.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Feb 1, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
What CTCoff is trying to say
Is that Gregg was stepping into a position held by fan favorite Kerry Wood, and unless he was perfect, personally performed open heart surgery on Zambrano, and saved Soriano’s kitten from a tree, he was doomed to be a failure in Cubs fans’ eyes
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
throwing gopher balls
didnt help either
by jesus christos on Feb 1, 2010 5:55 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
Good riddance. Just trying to clarify what CTCoff was saying
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
You're right, he wasn't good.
If he was, the Cubs would be bringing him back. I’m just saying that he was stepping into a very difficult situation in which the fans did not want him here to begin with. But I don’t care how much a fan base doesn’t want you, if you play well, you will eventually win them over. Gregg always seemed like a good guy, a stand-up guy. He just didn’t pitch well. But I was pointing ot that he was stepping into a very difficult situation from the git-go.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
I'm not sure . . .
That I agree he was a stand-up guy. I can remember reading comments after more than one sub-par outing about it not being a save situation, as if it were an explanation for poor performance.
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by Shanghai Badger on Feb 2, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
I don't remember that....
but if that’s true, then that’s bad. Very bad. In any case, I’m sure Marmol will do much better in the closer role.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
I guess they figure
he’s in his bounceback year. Maybe only 7-8 blown saves this season.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
I wish I had a mirror
Because I’m wondering if it looks like I give a crap about Kevin Gregg?
Gregg will benefit from playing in Miami
He pitches better in cavernous stadiums, especially ones with high walls.
except for Petco apparently
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Feb 1, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
If I remember correctly, Gregg gave up homers in...
….parks such as Petco, 3 at Dolphin-Shark-Life-Robby Stadium, Comerica, Turner, Nationals Park, and PNC. Not all of those are exactly hitter’s ballparks.
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DISASTER IN DETROIT....
Last I saw him pitch was in Detroit last June . First game of the series he gave up a walkoff . The other two games could have been won . Poor offense and defense led to the Cubs demise .
good riddance
thats pretty much all i have to say.
I wish him all the best.
His time in Chicago may not have been his best, but he was a Cub, and that makes him a tiny bit special.
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I don't find him as special
After how he blew the save in the first-ever Cub loss I attended in San Diego in August.
Padres fans are going to talk about that one for years. I guess, when your team is eternally doomed to stink….
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Feb 2, 2010 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
And now, it appears he is going to sign with the Blue Jays.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
wow ...
Gregg is gonna have fun against the Yankees and the Red Sox.
Against all those LH hitters in Yankee Stadium?
Yep. Good luck, Kevin.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Rays, Red Sox and Yankees, oh my!
His ERA is going to be VERY high this coming year…
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Feb 2, 2010 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
lets not sell the Orioles short
hell, maybe Toronto just wants him to throw pregame BP?
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Either that, or late-game BP.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Feb 2, 2010 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
Kevin Gregg is an okay bullpen arm
A guy like him is always going to find work. I wish him well. Part of me wishes he were back with the Cubs given all the job vacancies in this bullpen.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
To be honest,
And I’m not trying to cause anything here, I would prefer not to have him. That’s largely because you can’t give up 13 home runs as a closer and expect to keep your job.
Could he have stayed? It’s likely. But I’m not sure the fan base would have accepted him returning in a Cubs uniform next year.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Feb 2, 2010 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
you forgot to say SARCASM
Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou
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