MLB Playoffs, ALCS Game One: Yankees vs. Rangers, Friday 10/15, 7 pm CT
by Al Yellon on Oct 15, 2010 8:30 AM CDT
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PrintOn paper, this looks like a mismatch. The Rangers' best pitcher, Cliff Lee, can't pitch until Game Three at Yankee Stadium. The Yankees played the same number of postseason games last year as the Rangers have in their entire team history (15). The Yankees swept the Twins as if they weren't even there; the Rangers had to win all three of their road games in the division series to get this far.
And yet... through much of baseball history, underdog teams have won playoff series. That is, as the cliche goes, why they play the games.
That said, I don't expect the Rangers to win this series. There's one more "never" for the Rangers in their limited postseason experience -- they have never won a home playoff game in six tries, including the two this year vs. the Rays. If they can do so tonight, that makes this a very different series.
TBS is covering the ALCS. When the NLCS begins tomorrow, it'll be on Fox. One thing I'd love to see MLB go back to is what they did in the 1950's and 1960's -- have announcers from the participating teams in a playoff series share duties. That way you'd get announcers who are actually familiar with the teams involved.
7 pm CDT, TBS: Yankees at Rangers. Announcers: Ernie Johnson, Ron Darling and John Smoltz.
SB Nation game preview for ALCS Game One
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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I would be in favor of team announcers doing playoff games.
At least the fans of those two teams would be happy. I wouldn’t have to listen to Dick Stockton either,
Sandberg for manager!
You say that now
Wait until the White Sox make it in…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Remember, the Cardinals' announcers aren't great.
Oh wait … they work for Fox. Scratch that idea.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Liked Bob Carpenter Better Than McLaughlin
I wish the Cardinals would get Bob Carpenter back from the Nationals. Dan McLaughlin is just deadly dull.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
Seems like Game 2 could be the crucial point of the series.
At least on paper. Gotta go with CC and the Yanks for Game 1 and then Lee and Rangers in Game 3. So whoever wins Game 2 will have a 2-1 lead going into Game 4. If it’s NY, then even if they lose Game 4, they still have CC again in Game 5 and would presumably take a 3-2 lead.
It should be noted though, that should this series go the full 7, Cliff Lee will be ready to go in Game 7 on regular rest. No way CC comes back on very short rest.
And on the slim chance this series starts badly for NY – say, CC pitches well but loses a close one tonight and Rangers blow them out tomorrow – it’ll be interesting to see if Girardi changes rotation by dropping Burnett and having CC go in Game 4 and a possible Game 7, both on short rest.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Why wouldn't CC come back on short rest?
That’s the way the Brewers used him at the end of 2008. 1.65 ERA and he was going every 4th game the last month of the season.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I would have thought that as well...
…but Yankees have already announced a 4 man rotation (CC, Hughes, Pettitte, and Burnett). So if that holds true, then CC pitches Game 5 and it would be insane to start him on Game 7, though a relief appearance, a la the Big Unit, is feasible.
If you want CC to be available for Game 7, you almost have to start him Game 4. And yeah, CC’s certainly capable of doing it – but Girardi would have to change the already announced rotation to do so. My guess is being down 0-2 would be a good enough reason to make that change.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Makes perfect sense to me
Although I’m having a hard time seeing how the Yanks will be down 0-2.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
after hearing about
their “Dry” celebration for the ALDS win I think the Rangers have a far better chance at winning – that, to me, shows they have a great team atmosphere and that can lead to teams playing far above their potential
by hansman1982 on Oct 15, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't put money on it
but I think I like the Rangers winning this series. CJ Wilson and Colby Lewis have had fantastic years. You could make the argument that 1-3, the Rangers rotation is better than the Yankees. A bit concerned about their pen, but there’s more than enough ability in there. I think Lee wins two, Wilson/Lewis/Hunter squeak out two, and they pull off a shocker.
I am hoping that
the Rangers win the pennant and that Wood comes here next year to win his ring
by hansman1982 on Oct 15, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope the Yankees lose...
… and Wood’s jewelry collection has nothing to do with it.
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by Gibbon Jockey on Oct 15, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, that's not really true....
I am not rooting against the Yankees…I’m too ambivalent about the entire affair to even go against another team.
One thing I can solidly pronounce, though, is I don’t give a rip about any individual getting some championship that any fan feels that player has earned because he played a long time for a team you like and yet when given the opportunity to make some history decided to crap on themselves even though a home run tied that game up and could have been the springboard for one of the greatest stories of all time that never got told because he failed and we’d never have to hear the name Bartman ever again.
Game 7.
Wood had his chance and he blew it.
I don’t care what he does or doesn’t collect.
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by Gibbon Jockey on Oct 15, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Pickin the Rangers, eh?
Might happen, ya never know at this point. Rangers are ridin’ high after that win over the Rays in Tampa but I just think the Yankees are too good.
Counting the days until 4/1/11...
my concern with the Yankees
is that starting pitching. I mean, in other areas, bullpen, offense, I’d give the Yankees the nod (slight nod offensively). That said, SP and defense make a big difference in the postseason. I wouldn’t put money on it, but since I like the Rangers SP and defense better than the Yankees, and I don’t think their offense is far behind, I think there is a reasonable case to pick the Rangers. I really don’t think, on paper, that it is a huge mismatch.
I would love it if they had knowledgeable announcers
Anything to get Buck out of the baseball booth and remain in the football booth where I couldn’t care less what he does/says.
However, I do thinkt that Brenley did more than a credible job woith TBS knowing the teams invovled. Buck provides nothing and McCarver only provids info that can easily be found.
by jerry morales rules on Oct 15, 2010 1:14 PM CDT reply actions
It helps that one of those teams was the Giants
Although BB seemed to have done his homework on the Braves, too. It was good to hear a familiar voice calling the games, and he did a fine job of it.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I'd be in favor of having the local announcers call the games or part of them.
The networks won’t do it, though. It would mean an additional set of paychecks.
I’d also like for MLB not to sell the broadcast rights to Puerto Rico separately from the rest of the US, as they do now. We got the TBS broadcasts during the regular season but not during the postseason. MLB sold the rights separately to a local station whose signal is not carried on the San Juan cable TV system. As a result, fans are mad and many missed the games. For a quick buck MLB lost the goodwill of a lot of fans. But of course, Bud won’t refuse that easy buck.
Announcers don't bother me much..
I could care less whose announcing in games like these. As long as they are fair to both teams, then all is well
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
Koss-kay Fukudomay would like a word with you.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Harry Caray on Game 1 of 1968 World Series
I loved watching and listening to Harry broadcast game 1 of the 1968 World Series with Curt Gowdy on NBC, when MLB Network ran that last year. It’s the only complete game I have heard Harry broadcast for the Cardinals. It was way back in 1981, but I do remember watching some White Sox games on WGN with Harry at the mic. Why were there some White Sox games on WGN in 1981? I have no idea. That was the only season between 1967 and 1990 that WGN had the Sox.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
In 1981...
.. WSNS, the Sox over-the-air station, went almost full-time to “ON-TV”, an over-the-air subscription movie service. They had no room for the mostly-night Sox schedule, which had been produced by WGN’s crews for airing on WSNS.
So, in 1981 WGN aired some Sox games. When the Sox changed ownership at the end of the 1981 season,
The Sox decided to make a deal with ON-TV for “SportsVision”, an over-the-air subscription service which would carry most of their games, with a few farmed out to WFLD (Ch. 32) for over-the-air broadcast. This was the precursor to SportsChannel, which carried Sox games later in the 1980’s.
Sox ownership, from New York, didn’t understand that Chicago fans were used to seeing almost all their team’s games on free over the air TV — this subscription/cable model worked in the east, but in Chicago, it helped relegate the Sox to 2nd-tier status.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
It would have been interesting if the game where in New York
They are expecting 40 plus mile an hour wins during game time here, but little or no rain.
That would a bizarre game to watch.
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry
40 mile an hour wins?
That’s a new one on me.
We’re getting winds, rain, and bitterly cold temperatures in the low 40s.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Ugh.
Current radar shows no rain in NYC, but plenty in upstate NY and New England. Imagine if the Red Sox had made it this year.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
There's snow in several areas up here.
Not in the valleys, but on the mountaintops. Remind me again why I’m supposed to like winter.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Builds character
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Here, I just showed up for a minute so you're not talking to yourself.
Rangers look good tonight.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
LOL
I’ll leave the rest of the thread to you.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
BOO!
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2010 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
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I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Possibly hiking up Mount Marcy during the weekend of October 23-24. State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2010 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Aaron Rodgers would like to have a word with you.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2010 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Listen, I don't wanna sound pissy here...
BUT I’M TELLIN’ AL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!
Only people with daily2b approval can comment on BCB!
So let me see. By your logic, if you don’t want me in tomorrow’s recap thread, I will either have to stay off BCB or spend my time in the FanPosts/FanShots.
I think you have spent enough time talking to yourself here.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2010 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Baileyography!
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I think I missed the sarcasm indicator.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
As one guy goes another guy arrives
Just got home and liking what I’m seeing, hopefully they don’t pull a Minnesota and choke the game away.
48 minutes of intensity
by dsenchi on Oct 15, 2010 8:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Not sure what CC's pitch count is but...
…if you’re Girardi, do you think about pulling him now and bringing him for Game 4?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Those were the good times, weren't they?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
You mean you don't see them every Sunday this time of year?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I realize it's just another example of Bud whoring himself out to Fox...
…but what’s with the chubby guy running onto the field of play with the camera? He’s not a player, he’s not a coach, and he’s not an umpire.
Too bad Nuke wasn’t pitching for Texas. Crash could tell him to put the next pitch in the camera guy’s ear.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
And for the sake of accuracy...
…it has just occurred to me that TBS aired this game, not Fox. So replace Fox with TBS and the sentiment still stands. And I sincerely apologize to Fox – never fear though, they’ll get their opportunity to further desecrate this great game tomorrow.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I imagine they will treat it as a frat boy does the tree in the backyard
After his sixth beer bong.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Are you sure?
That “deeper problem” remark was very annoying.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
And I am not being sarcastic at all.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
It's okay.
So shall there be two of us in this thread?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
It appears so..
J?K!! I am just bored and half buzzed! Tryin to have some fun… I always enjoy your posts, VCF.
I was wondering about that.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2010 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
What did you call me?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Didn't those myth buster guys conclude that sliding into first is NOT quicker than running through?
I was always told you only slide to avoid the tag if 1B is pulled off the bag. Similar comments online, by media, analysts, etc. So why do players still do it?
Because it looks good, I imagine…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
How about diving into the bag?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Diving is sliding.
Look, what kind of baseball do you play?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I ran track in high school
I know – not as glamorous as football. Or basketball. Or, hell, even baseball (those dweebs), but I did it anyway. While I was perfecting the art and muscle to be as fast as I could possibly be in whatever situation arose at 400 meters or under, I was taught one thing consistently:
“Run through the tape.”
It doesn’t matter if your nearest competitor is 15 yards behind you or 15 yards in front of you – that finish line is where the tape is and you run through that. A step past that line? Fall over in joy or disgust – no one cares. But that line is your entire world for the few seconds where you are giving pure effort, and you will not stop until you have put it behind you. If you didn’t win that heat, maybe the jackass that beat you will cramp up before the finals, so you finish your run.
If all I did while running through the tape (instead of diving over the finish line) was shave .1 seconds off my time, it was well worth it. These guys who have to hit a ball first should be able to figure that out, too. Hell, Marlon Byrd seems to get it.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
they still claim momentum is lost
It would seem to make sense, and I would do it unless i were avoiding a tag….
Still buzzed?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Everything's bigger in Texas...
…even the chokes.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
someone restrain me so i dont hurt someone
freaking yankees
I Like Mike
by jesus christos on Oct 15, 2010 10:06 PM CDT reply actions
Have I seen this before?
Such as in the ALDS?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2010 10:10 PM CDT reply actions
Gosh I hate the Yankees.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2010 10:11 PM CDT reply actions
I'm OK with the team
but it’s the obsessive shoving-down-our-throats of the Yankees that I hate. Of course I understand the whole dollar-driven reasoning behind it – “if we don’t promote the Yankees, then nobody will watch and we’ll lose money!” But I’ll wager that the World Series ratings won’t be that significantly higher if New York gets in.
Yeah.
I wonder how many people won’t watch the World Series, simply because they hate the Yankees and don’t want to see them win.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
YAY!!!!!! TEXAS RECORDED AN OUT!!!!!
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2010 10:16 PM CDT reply actions
Wow I just got home
It was 5-0 when I got on a bus. 4 pitchers and not a single out. Yikes.
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 15, 2010 10:18 PM CDT reply actions
Um I think they scored all 6 runs while I was on the bus.
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 15, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
...issue a four-pitch walk to the first batter he faces.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2010 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
TOOTBLAN.
That was Theriot-esque.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 15, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
When did the Dodgers trade Theriot to the Rangers....
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I would have tried to pull that ball and hit it as hard as I can.
Send Mr. ARod a little wakeup call…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Those damn Yankees...
…NO FEAR…even when they were 5 runs down…they just seemed like it was no big deal.
Joe Girardi...2011 Chicago Cubs Manager...Maybe...50/50?
Adam Dunn..2011 Chicago Cubs First Baseman - 3 yrs/$42 mill with a club option for a 4th.
Wow.
I was so tired I went to bed after they pulled Wilson in the 8th (7th?). He was just owning the Yankees. What a turn of events! Yankees’ ace CC completely craps the bed, team still gets W. Can Cliff Lee pitch 3 games (sarcasm)? Wilson looked fantastic, but now rather than stealing game 1 we’re back to the same ol’ same ol’. How disappointing.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Hah,
I went to bed also with runners at the corners and 1 out 5-5, freaking exhausted. The Rangers had definitely blown it by then :( Pity after Wilson tossed a great game.
The worst of it is, in my eyes anyway, the Rangers kinda needed that win to get a foothold in the series. I hope I’m wrong but I wouldn’t be surprised to see the yankees cruise to a sweep now :S
by English Cub Fan on Oct 16, 2010 7:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Agree...
blowing a 5-0 lead in an ALCS game against the defending AND 27 time world champs, is NOT something I’d recommend. The Rangers might win game 3 with Cliff Lee, but, I think the Rangers’ bullpen pretty much sealed their fate last night.
Joe Girardi...2011 Chicago Cubs Manager...Maybe...50/50?
Adam Dunn..2011 Chicago Cubs First Baseman - 3 yrs/$42 mill with a club option for a 4th.
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