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Here is the 2011 Cubs schedule (with tentative game times) broken down by ticket pricing level. Note that this is the schedule for bleachers; other seating areas may have different breakdowns of games. Link opens .pdf

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$72 for a marque bleacher ticket??

Wow. Hope that’s not a game I have to see.

Sandberg for manager!

by mrcubsfan on Oct 15, 2010 6:26 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

It's more than $72.

It’s $72 plus 12 percent. That’s about $81. I really think they need to get rid of that split out separate tax. It’s misleading. It’s like the airlines pricing tickets at $198, then when you get done paying taxes and fees your ticket is $300.

Just tell us what the prices are.

$80 may work for a Yankee series or a Cardinal series or a White Sox series.

But vs. the Astros or Marlins in July? They’re going to have trouble selling those.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Oct 15, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

And I was looking at the marlins series ...

that is the typical weekend when I go to a game in july. 80 dollars for the marlins…. unbelievable .

Sandberg for manager!

by mrcubsfan on Oct 15, 2010 7:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

They've seriously miscalculated the draw of a summer Saturday.

Sure, those games are popular — IF the team is doing well. But $80 for the Marlins? They will have a LOT of trouble selling those games out.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Oct 15, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

This "hide the ball" price increase is another discouraging datapoint for the Ricketts Era.

Obviously, the jury is still out, but in the last year, the Cubs have done very, very little to make me think that they know what they’re doing, on or off the field.

It’s disappointing. The Cubs are trying like heck to conceal the fact that they’re not lowering ticket prices, and in many cases, are increasing overall ticket prices.

I am not going to write Ricketts off in any fashion, yet. But the early returns have been consistently disappointing, and they continue to back the same management that makes these rather obvious errors.

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by D98 on Oct 16, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I looked more closely at the breakdown of bleacher prices.

Esssentially, they have lowered the price on about 2/3 of the games… but raised it on the other third, and on half of those, raised it by 25%.

Those 13 games cannot sustain a price level that high. They’re going to go into the season with some of the most desirable games not sold out.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Oct 16, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is that such a bad thing?

Not sure if this is what they intended, but it appears to me the Cubs are putting the squeeze on the secondary market. That’s a good thing in my book.

Folks here seem aghast at $80 bleacher tickets, but people have been paying at least that much from the scalpers for Saturday bleachers in the summer months for several years now. Yes, even the Marlins or Astros. Saturday in the bleachers is a bigger factor than who the opponent is. And if it’s Cardinals or White Sox, we’re talking at least a C-note a bleacher for Saturday, and usually Fridays as well.

I do acknowledge that by raising the face value on these games, the Cubs are affecting a much larger number of tickets than what had been in play in the secondary market. In other words, in 2010 only the bleacher tickets being scalped were going for the $80-$100 prices for those games. Next year, all the bleachers (5100) will be priced at the $80 level. That change in supply will be an interesting dynamic to watch.

It’s like the old saying – a Trixie/Chad and their money are soon parted…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 16, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

In 2010...

… tickets for those games weren’t going for anywhere close to that price. I understand the concept of putting the squeeze on the secondary market, but the way to do that (IMO) is having a dynamic pricing system like the one the Giants use.

That way, if the team doesn’t do well, they drop the price and sell out. If the team’s doing well, they could raise the price even higher than $80 and still sell them.

The “for several years now” argument doesn’t work any more. What you describe was the case from about 2004-2008. Things are very different now — besides the team not being as good, there’s an economic recession going on.

Selling “the Wrigley experience” alone isn’t enough, and I believe they have priced the tickets far beyond what the market will bear.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Oct 16, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Understand about the whole economic recession thing...

…but IMO, the biggest impact that has had is on the rest of the season – I saw plenty of free tickets for those Monday and Tuesday night games throughout the 2010 season. But the bleachers for the big games, the Saturday games (assuming good weather of course) still command the high prices.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 16, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually...

… they didn’t. At least not after the Reds series in early July. Even the Cardinal series in late July didn’t bring out the high prices.

They are treading dangerous ground trying to get $80 to see the Marlins.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Oct 17, 2010 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually they did in 2010 - at least along Waveland, Sheffield & Addison

which is prime scalping and brokering areas.

And the Cubs are not betting on folks paying $80 to see the Marlins. It’s $80 to sit in the bleachers on a beautiful Saturday afternoon in the summer. If it’s good weather and a 3:05 game, they’re probably going to get it. 12:05 game? That’s gonna be a tougher sell. Bad weather? No way.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 17, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't speak for waveland & sheffield

but I was lucky to get face for my extras for the Friday game and ate the fees.

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 17, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe for Cardinals games.

Not for other games. Tickets after July were going for half face value.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Oct 18, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

It will be a very interesting dynamic

I think the brokers are going to cut back dramatically on the sales. I think the Yankees series is a no brainer but not sure about the rest even the White Sox & Cardinals other than the Saturday games. I also assume some of those will be Sunday night games which generally are much less desirable than a Sunday day game. I was proponent of this type of pricing ( charging more for biggest games & less for others) but I think $80 for 13 bleacher games is too much unless the Cubs are playing very good baseball. It will be interesting to watch. I can tell you one less ticket they will sell is the one I would have bought for the Friday Cardinal game. I would normally buy that one but this year I will stick to my season tickets which are $20 cheaper. I am sure they won’t miss me, but they might miss the revenue if a lot of people decide they can skip more games.

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 17, 2010 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Guess what?

I think you’re absolutely correct here. Surprise! Jessica & I agree on a ticket issue.

I also think you won’t be alone in deciding not to buy certain games — and you have other tickets that you will use. Other people will simply not go.

A dynamic pricing system like the Giants use might wind up pricing certain bleacher games at $80… but only if the team is doing well.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Oct 17, 2010 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

...

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Oct 19, 2010 7:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

how much does the annual payment stop them from making some moves we wish to see?

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by Cubbie-Tim on Oct 17, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can sympathize with your complaint about not showing the final price - That would be illegal over here.

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Oct 19, 2010 6:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

You sure about that last statement

Closest 2010 games I could get to the Marlins’ weekend in 2011 are the Reds visits here the weekend of Independence Day and 1st full August weekend.

StL Memorial Day and end July, plus Philly in mid-July are easily highest tier, along with the ChiSox and Angels.

So those 2 games I cite: attendance was 40,677 on Jul 3rd and 41,227 on Aug 7th. The question now remains is how much was the secondary market and could they expand it.

I think the Cubs’ issue could lie in charging the same for a Sunday as a Saturday. IMHO I believe the secondary market could be stronger for a Friday than a Sunday.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Oct 25, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree, Al.

I opened my ticket email and thought they’d actually reduced the price of my seats until I scrolled down. Breaking up the price on the actual tickets is b.s. too. Especially the way they put the price in dark murky coloring that you could barely make out. This stinks of the kind of stuff pushed by rotten marketing consultants who talk a lot about “perceptions” and “initial as opposed to secondary impacts” etc.

by the nth on Oct 15, 2010 6:53 PM CDT reply actions  

I just think it's wrong...

… for you to say a bleacher ticket is $72 — which is high enough as it is — then when you get to actually paying for it, it’s over $80.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Oct 15, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ouch !!!

Gotta get another job just to afford my Cubs tickets . Did anyone see what the ticket brokers in Boston want for the series in May ?? It will scare you about even thinking of going . Not to mention Boston is expensive anyway .

by cubs north on Oct 15, 2010 7:01 PM CDT reply actions  

IM GOING!

2 tix at 180 per, not including airfare (I live in wisco)!!!

by chicago030 on Oct 15, 2010 10:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Plus lodging and meals

comes out to a small fortune . Our plan B was to head to Kansas City for the June series . Gotta check out the K and see at least 2 games that weekend . Amtrak still has some real good rates going west .

by cubs north on Oct 15, 2010 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's true.

But it will be worth it :)

by chicago030 on Oct 16, 2010 9:01 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I will take the Chinatown bus and crash with a friend

IF i can get a ticket.

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 16, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

"The Chinatown bus"?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Oct 16, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

There a bunch of cheap bus companies run by Chinese people.

That run to DC, Boston, Philly etc. There are also some non Chinese ones like Bolt
by I prefer the Chinese ones. While they all do pick ups in midtown for some buses they are still called the Chinatown buses. They nearly all drop off in the Chinatown areas of the cities they go to. Cheaper & better service than Greyhound/Trailways. Round trip to DC is $35 to $40.

They actually started as a cheap way for Chinese to go to a few major cities from New York but when us Caucasians caught on that it was a great deal, they expanded and lead to other cheap bus companies.

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 17, 2010 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

There are still

tickets showing up on e-bay for the Boston weekend . Wonder if Ricketts helped price them ??

by cubs north on Oct 17, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow...

I’m usually plum full of snark, but that pricing index is a laugher.

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by Gibbon Jockey on Oct 15, 2010 7:13 PM CDT reply actions  

thay used just about every color you can think of on it

AMAZING

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by Cubbie-Tim on Oct 15, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had a 3.1% increase

That’s for my combo plan in terrace reserved infield.
Kind of hard to swallow any increase at all after such a terrible season.

Eamus Catuli!

by wrigley_boy on Oct 15, 2010 7:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks Yet Again

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by memphiscub on Oct 17, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

By section?

No. The two charts are by area, not specific section.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Oct 15, 2010 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

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