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over 1 year ago Alyellontoppscard_tiny Al Yellon 23 comments 0 recs  | 

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It's not slam dunk to say he'll stay in Texas

Such a thing is bad PR, but by no means a certainty that Cliff Lee won’t succumb to the allure of money like so many of us do. That is by no means a certainty that Lee wouldn’t take money from a franchise other than the Yankees who could offer him a better deal than what the Rangers will offer him. Outside of the Yankees, that list grows short. The Rangers would probably be the best option for him if that team can capitalize and become a perennial playoff contender, something the Red Sox, White Sox, Mets or Cubs could not promise him. The Yankees have an aging core and problems that exist outside their starting rotation.

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by Ace Venom on Oct 26, 2010 9:55 AM CDT reply actions  

My guess is...

… that the Rangers offer him enough money that leaving for a place his wife doesn’t like won’t be an option.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Oct 26, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

That could be

If the Red Sox owners hadn’t bent over backwards to acquire Liverpool F.C., I’d say they’d be in a pretty good position to try to land Cliff Lee. I have no doubt that they’re going to bid for Lee because he is a Yankee killer.

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by Ace Venom on Oct 26, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Possibly so.

Boston’s a lot farther from Arkansas than Dallas is. You know, sometimes family considerations do trump other factors.

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by Al Yellon on Oct 26, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

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by memphiscub on Oct 26, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

nonsense

Al, you put way to much stock into those things…loyalty, family, your hometown…geez, makes one think you dont know what your talking about

now that that is out of the way

by hansman1982 on Oct 26, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK I have mentioned this a lot

but this would be similar to Maddux in 92 who took 5 million less ( when that was a LOT of money) to sign with the Braves over the Yankees. It was clear after, that Maddux had simply allowed Boras to use the Yankees to drive up the price from the Braves and never really wanted to play there.

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by Doggie Stalker on Oct 26, 2010 10:31 AM CDT reply actions  

That's a very possible scenario.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Oct 26, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

OT, but Rangers related

I didn’t realize that they severed ties with Josh Lewin. As I’ve said before, he’s not my cup of tea when it comes to broadcasters, but he is a sincerely nice person. Assuming he gets another full time job, it will be his fifth team.

by dmlichte on Oct 26, 2010 10:44 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm with you on Lewin.

I really don’t like him as a broadcaster. However, I’ve met him and as dmlichte says, he is a genuinely nice guy.

I assume he’ll get another fulltime gig as he has quite a bit of both local and national experience.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Oct 26, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

I think that Lee will be a Ranger next year, especially considering he will get similar money (state tax free) and will be on a team that is coming off of a WS appearance (and my money is on them winning it)

by hansman1982 on Oct 26, 2010 4:35 PM CDT reply actions  

fyi

per CNN Money:
Comparable salary in
New York (Manhattan), NY
$48,017,621
Comparable salary in
New York (Brooklyn), NY
$40,264,317
Comparable salary in
New York (Queens), NY
$35,132,158

granted he wouldnt be living full time in any of these cities (nor Dallas which is where I used for comparison) but it does show that he will have to pay out the wazoo to stay in NYC during the season.

by hansman1982 on Oct 26, 2010 5:08 PM CDT reply actions  

I predict he'll be a Yankee

I think that the Lee signing will go well into mid-December and he might not become signed until shortly before Christmas. It’s going to be like the Texeira signing. Just when it seemed like Tex was going to Baltimore or Boston, he goes to New York. I think the same thing will happen with Lee. I wouldn’t count out Philadelphia making a move either.

by jeffmills1972 on Oct 26, 2010 7:50 PM CDT reply actions  

My guess is Lee stays in Texas.

Which would leave the Yankees desperate to trade for a high end starting pitcher.

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by BucknerKongCardenal on Oct 26, 2010 9:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Zambrano and Fukudome for Granderson and Joba!

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by ballhawk on Oct 26, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would be an awful trade.

Joba, like many Yankee prospects, is way overrated.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Oct 27, 2010 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Zambrano and Soriano for Granderson and Joba!

Better? ;-)

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by ballhawk on Oct 27, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, sure.

But the Yankees aren’t crazy.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Oct 27, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Neither am I - those were obviously offered up in jest

However, if Yankees do sign Crawford, it wouldn’t surprise me if they deal Granderson. Obviously we already have a crowded outfield and a lot of things would have to happen before adding one more starting OFer to the mix. Still… Just something to file away for future reference – Granderson would fit in nicely here.

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by ballhawk on Oct 27, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Curtis Granderson has at least $20m left on his contract.

$8.25m in 2011, $10m in 2012, a $2m buyout for 2013.

I was all in favor of trading for him last offseason. But he had another mediocre year. The Cubs got better performance out of Marlon Byrd for a lot less money.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Oct 27, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

what if we threw in Silva

and offered to eat $1 of the contract?

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by Cubbie-Tim on Oct 27, 2010 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Silva will be back next year in Chicago and Lee will be in Texas .. since

Silva is the gift that may keep on giving .. but how much of the bounce back remains to be seen.

I don’t know if the Cubs need to revisit Ted Lilly once more. They should never have let him go. I’d be happy to see him resigned .. and maybe Kerry Wood will give us an inside angle once again.

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by cubnational on Nov 1, 2010 10:53 AM CDT reply actions  

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