How Did They Do? 2010 Cubs Report Card
With the regular season over and the playoffs yet to begin, I thought today I'd take a look at the 44 players who spent time in a Cubs uniform this year, give a brief summary of what they did (or didn't) do and assign them a letter grade. I'll also do this for significant people on the management side (Jim Hendry, Mike Quade and Lou Piniella).
I'm going to include the players that were traded away in July and August, because they did spend most of the season in a Cubs uniform and all four of them were significant contributors to the two Cubs playoff teams in 2007 and 2008.
You may agree or disagree with my gradings -- in fact, I'd be surprised if you didn't disagree with some of them.
Overall grade for the team: C- . There was some hope given by the better performance at the end of the season and some of the individual performances; otherwise the overall grade would have been a D. After the jump, the individual grades; players are listed in no particular order.
Jim Hendry, general manager: C-. This grade also would have been lower, but Hendry did manage to turn his mistake of the previous offseason ([name redacted]) into a serviceable starting pitcher. Hendry also traded four players away and in return received a useful major league second baseman and six prospects. Even if only one or two of those prospects turns into a major league contributor, Hendry managed to get a decent return -- and sent two of the major leaguers to the playoffs.
Lou Piniella, manager: D-. We now know that much of Lou's disengagement during the season was because of his mother's illness. In hindsight, he probably should have not returned for 2010, but I can understand him not wanting to go out after 2009's disappointment. Unfortunately, it got worse, and Lou didn't help with his constant mantra: "Look, what do you want me to do?" That's not leadership. That said, I do give Lou credit for the 2007 NL Central title -- he helped right the ship that sank in 2006.
Mike Quade, manager: B+. The man who got very little note as a third base coach was the surprise choice to replace Lou on his retirement. The team played well, going 24-13, and more importantly, they seemed to play with more interest and enthusiasm. Quade's public statements showed he was involved and paid attention to detail. Despite a few curious lineup selections, his in-game management style was at least competent. He's made himself a strong candidate for the fulltime managing job.
Geovany Soto, catcher: B+. Soto worked hard in the offseason, dropped 40 pounds, and returned to the level he had set for himself in his Rookie of the Year season in 2008. His OPS and OPS+, in fact, were higher this year than in 2008. Unfortunately, Soto was unable to stay healthy for large chunks of the year, appearing in only 105 games, starting just 97. That ranked 14th among all major league catchers; obviously, no catcher needs to catch 150 games, but 120-125 would be nice.
Derrek Lee, first base: C. The way D-Lee exited from the Cubs wasn't what any of us would have wanted. After an excellent 2009, Lee ... well, just never got going, until his last few games with the Cubs. That, apparently, was what got him traded, as Braves scouts saw his two-homer game in St. Louis and he agreed to the deal. After a very slow start with the Braves, he hit .333/.430/.560 in his last 100 plate appearances. I salute him for his classy demeanor for six-plus years in a Cubs uniform and wish him well in the postseason.
Xavier Nady, 1B/OF: C-. Nady played first base in the minor leagues, but very little of it in the majors until this year, when he was pressed into service as Lee's replacement. As the more-or-less regular 1B in August and September he hit .283/.314/.361; as you can see, with little power. I go back and forth on whether the Cubs should bring him back; Adam Dunn is the flavor-of-the-month, but may be too expensive. Nady did have a pretty good hitting season in 2008; by next year, totally healthy, he could be an inexpensive alternative.
Ryan Theriot, second base/shortstop: C-. Theriot did not have a very good year, and that's not even including all the TOOTBLANs. As a Cub he hit .284/.320/.327 -- that's right, a .327 slugging percentage. Amazingly enough, that got worse in Los Angeles, where he hit .242/.323/.283. I'd be surprised if the Dodgers brought him back; he was a prime candidate for non-tendering had the Cubs kept him. Despite leaving on July 31, he led the Cubs in stolen bases with 16; no one else had more than 10. It's the lowest team-leading total since 2005, when Derrek Lee and Corey Patterson had 15.
Blake DeWitt, second base: C. DeWitt's numbers weren't much better than Theriot's: .250/.314/.375 as a Cub. However, against RHP he hit (combined between Dodgers and Cubs) .263/.342/.377, suggesting he could be a decent platoon partner with Jeff Baker at second base next year. At age 25 he still has a chance to improve.
Jeff Baker, second base: C. Baker really can't hit RHP at all: a .106 BA in 66 at-bats. However, he rakes against LHP: .350/.395/.550 in 140 AB with four home runs. Combine that with DeWitt and you have a productive platoon; both players can play third base, too, making them useful backups to Aramis Ramirez.
Mike Fontenot, second base: B-. Fontenot actually hit pretty well as a Cub: .284/.332/.402. Lou Piniella seemed to forget he was even on the team; Fontenot spent long stretches without playing. He hit a little worse (.282/.329/.310) after the trade, but he is heading to the playoffs for the third time in his career.
Starlin Castro, shortstop: B. Castro made 27 errors this season. Errors, of course, are not the best way to rate fielders; Castro's range helped him get to balls that Theriot would have waved at as they went by. He had a few mental lapses as well -- but then, remind yourself he is only 20 years old. He needs to work on these things, and I believe he will improve. His hitting was outstanding for a rookie, especially at that age. How good was it? He hit .300 in 506 plate appearances. Here's the list of all other players in major league history who have done that at age 20 (seven of them): Alex Rodriguez, Al Kaline, Vada Pinson, Claudell Washington, Orlando Cepeda, Ken Griffey Jr., and Mickey Mantle -- a pretty impressive bunch.
Aramis Ramirez, third base: B-. Once again, Ramirez could not stay healthy. In his seven full years as a Cub, he has played in 150 games only once. Whoever the next manager is, one thing he must do is insist that if a veteran player is injured, that player go on the DL and fix the problem rather than try to play through it. That likely gave Ramirez a month of bad play, playing hurt. When he finally did go on the DL, the problem was fixed: from his return on June 25 to the end of the season, Ramirez hit .287/.333/.556 in 77 games (309 PA) with 20 HR and 61 RBI. That's a pace for 40 HR and 120 RBI in a full season -- if he could ever play one. The .889 OPS he put up in those 77 games is above his career average.
Alfonso Soriano, left field: B-. I don't understand the complaints about and criticism of Soriano. Yes, he is overpaid. Yes, we know the reasons for that overpayment, and we are stuck with him for four more years. But he had a good -- not outstanding, but good -- offensive season, playing in his most games since 2007 and hitting a solid .258/.322/.496 with 24 home runs, and drawing his most walks in a season since he came to the Cubs. His outfield defense was... well, it wasn't awful. He stopped hopping and made most plays he could get to, although his outfield assist total was his lowest as a Cub (only six).
Marlon Byrd, center field: B. Byrd became a fan favorite with his hustle and diving plays in center field, not to mention his tremendous throw that helped the NL win the All-Star Game (Giants, Phillies, Reds, Braves: whichever one of you makes the World Series, thank Marlon Byrd for your extra home game). Offensively, his .293/.346/.429 numbers were down a little from his last two years in Texas, but he still contributed. That OBA was increased by his 17 HBP, which tied a 105-year-old team record set by Frank Chance.
Kosuke Fukudome, right field: B-. Fukudome had his best offensive season since becoming a Cub, likely because he was finally used properly, being platooned most of the season. The rest probably did him good. It would be nice if Hendry could move Fukudome's contract during the offseason -- even having to eat half of it could save the Cubs some money.
Tyler Colvin, right field: B. Colvin showed good power with a .500 slugging percentage and 20 HR, fourth-most ever by a Cubs rookie. Defensively the results were mixed; at times he looked solid, with a good throwing arm; at other times he took bad routes to balls and dropped some that should have been easily caught. These things can be fixed; Colvin is now home recuperating from the bizarre broken-bat injury he suffered in Florida. Presuming Fukudome is traded, right field belongs to Colvin next year and hopefully, for many years to come.
Koyie Hill, catcher: D. In 2009, Hill hit well enough to be -- just barely -- a decent backup catcher, and his defense was strong. This year? Not so much, and it's still puzzling why Mike Quade wouldn't give Welington Castillo more playing time. Give Hill credit from coming back from nearly losing fingers to his table saw to play major league baseball, but I think it's time for the Cubs to find another backup catcher.
Darwin Barney, infield: B. Barney seems the perfect utility infielder. He's outstanding defensively, can hit a little bit and seems fundamentally sound. He can play second base and shortstop well and likely will be a decent 3B backup as well. Pencil him in as the Cubs' #1 backup infielder in 2011.
Sam Fuld, outfield: D. After playing well in limited duty in 2009, Fuld never got a chance this year. He didn't hit and didn't run into any walls going after fly balls. Though I think there's room for someone like this who can bunt and pinch-run and play outfield defense, I suspect Fuld will be elsewhere next season.
Micah Hoffpauir, 1B/OF: D-. Hoffpauir has 394 major league plate appearances, which is 394 more than he probably would have had if he hadn't had the strong spring training in 2008 and impressed Lou. A natural 1B, the Cubs tried him in the outfield, where he wasn't very good. He will be 31 next March. As I have said before, he'd probably be best suited to investigating joining his former teammate Matt Murton in Japan next year.
Welington Castillo, catcher: incomplete. We didn't see enough of him to judge; perhaps he'll be in the mix for backup next year.
Brad Snyder, outfield: C. Even if Snyder never plays another major league game, he'll have a place in Cub lore -- he drove in the only run in a 1-0 win over the Padres in the season's final week, helping knock San Diego out of the postseason. Most likely, Snyder's 28 major league plate appearances are it for him.
Chad Tracy, infield/outfield: D-. Yes, that was this year. Tracy's main contribution to the Cubs was his striking resemblance to Ryan Dempster. Maybe that's why the Marlins picked him up -- they thought they were getting Dempster.
Bobby Scales, infield/outfield: D-. Seriously, isn't it time to give this guy his gold watch? He's 32 and really can't play major league defense any more. I understand he's a great guy and it's wonderful that he persevered for so many years, but maybe it's time for him to get into coaching.
Ryan Dempster, RHP: B+. Dempster had another solid year. He threw the Cubs' only complete game of 2010 (in a loss at Seattle on June 22). His ERA was up a little, but the rest of his numbers were in line with last year's. He continues to be a good #2 starter.
Carlos Zambrano, RHP: B. Z's season has been well chronicled here and elsewhere, so we don't need to rehash it. All there is to say is this: if he can even come close to the pitcher he has been since his return August 9 -- and I don't think anyone would expect him to sustain that level -- the Cubs could have the "ace" that everyone thought Z would be.
Randy Wells, RHP: C. Wells had some stretches this year when he was outstanding (from June 28-July 28, a 1.79 ERA in six starts). And he had some outings when he couldn't get anyone out (in one case, literally, on May 28 vs. the Cardinals). If he can figure out how to avoid first-inning blowups, he could become a good #3 starter.
Carlos Silva, RHP: C. Silva was outstanding most of the first half, then had various health and injury issues that left him 2-4, 8.20 from July 1 to the end of the year. He really doesn't have a spot with the 2011 Cubs -- I imagine Jim Hendry will try to move him. The Mariners are paying about half the $11.5 million left on his deal, so he may be moveable.
Ted Lilly, LHP: B. Everyone here loved Ted for his bulldog demeanor and fine pitching. He gave the Cubs three and a half good years. Now, you can buy his Wrigleyville house. Expected landing point: Angels, or maybe Yankees.
Tom Gorzelanny, LHP: B-. Gorz did everything he was asked, moving from the rotation to the bullpen, and giving the Cubs eleven quality starts despite being a target of two batted balls during the year, one hitting him in the shoulder, the other in his pitching hand. Lefties sometimes mature later than other pitchers -- just ask Ted Lilly, who didn't have his first full year as a starter till he was 27. Gorzelanny just turned 28. He could be a solid #5 starter for the 2011 Cubs.
Carlos Marmol, RHP: A-. The minus is for the walks and HBP. Otherwise, Marmol had one of the best seasons for any reliever in major league history, setting a record for K per nine innings. If he can cut down the walks, he could be the best closer in the major leagues next year.
Sean Marshall, LHP: A-. Marshall seems to have finally found his niche as a solid setup man for Marmol.
Andrew Cashner, RHP: C+. At times, Cashner was lights-out -- sometimes getting an inning done in six or seven pitches. At other times -- not so much, like the night in Colorado where the Rockies kept hitting... and hitting... and hitting... Until and unless Cashner gets an expanded repertoire, I think he's best suited to relief pitching and with experience, he could make a good righty/lefty setup tandem with Marshall.
Casey Coleman, RHP: B-. After a couple of bad relief appearances, Coleman was moved into the rotation and improved with every start, finishing with a 3.33 ERA in eight starts. He's kind of a poor man's Randy Wells; without great velocity he is going to have to learn to locate (maybe some time with Greg Maddux would help). He seems to be the kind of young pitcher (only 23) who could do that; if so, the Cubs have another rotation candidate for next year.
Justin Berg, RHP: C-. Well, geez. The guy looks like a pitcher -- big (6-3, 230) and bearded. But 14 strikeouts and 20 walks in 40 innings? See you in Des Moines. Or on the waiver list.
James Russell, LHP: C+. Russell showed flashes of being a solid middle reliever, and other flashes that were awful. He's got a shot at being a good lefty specialist (lefties hit .238 off him). He's got to cut down on the HR allowed (11 in 49 innings). Like Coleman, he has major league bloodlines -- his father is former major league closer Jeff Russell.
Scott Maine, LHP: C. Well... I dunno. He was acquired in the Aaron Heilman deal, which in and of itself makes him worthwhile. He pitched fairly well, and as a lefthander probably will get several more chances. But... the reports here that he wouldn't sign autographs for about 12 people outside Wrigley because it was an "off day" (resulting in a new nickname) and his unusual reaction to people asking him how he felt about surviving a serious car accident... I dunno. Strange dude.
John Grabow, LHP: incomplete. Spent most of the year injured with knee problems. Presuming he's healthy next year, he will be in the bullpen because the Cubs owe him $4.8 million. Yes, I know that's too much money. If he can be anywhere close to the guy he was with the Pirates, he will be a decent contributor, though expensive. He gets an "F" for the pitching he DID do in 2010.
Thomas Diamond, RHP: D. Diamond, along with John Danks and Edinson Volquez, was part of a great young crop of Texas Rangers prospects several years ago. The Rangers traded Danks and Volquez and Diamond got hurt. He's really only with the Cubs because Randy Bush, his former college coach, told him he'd give him a shot. He's really not very good at either starting or relieving, although he did have 36 strikeouts in 29.2 innings. The Cubs can do better.
Marcos Mateo, RHP: D. Same as Diamond -- a minor-league lifer who got a cuppa coffee with the Cubs. He didn't seem to have much mound presence; he struck out a lot of hitters (26 in 21.2 innings) but also gave up six home runs. I don't expect him back.
Jeff Samardzija, RHP: D-. Enough already.
Jeff Gray, RHP: incomplete. Spent most of the year injured and rehabbing in Mesa. He'll be 29 next year and is a strong candidate for... being released.
Brian Schlitter, RHP: D-. Would have been an F, but his name was enough for comic relief as the season was going down, um, the toilet. A 2.875 WHIP and 12.38 ERA probably sends him to the DFA list.
Mitch Atkins, RHP: F. Pitched poorly and now DFA'd.
Jeff Stevens, RHP: F. Pitched poorly and should be DFA'd.
Esmailin Caridad, RHP: incomplete. Spent most of the year injured. With the Cubs having many bullpen candidates, and also looking for someone else with experience, I don't see him as having much of a chance to make the team.
Bob Howry, RHP: D-. Was brought back, presumably, for his clubhouse presence. Didn't pitch well and was released.
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Good to see
Geo and Tyler Colvin get decent scores, i was pleased to see Geo working hard last offseason to get in better shape and lose weight to turn on the ball quicker. I hope to see some good years from those two.
~Ronald Reagan has held the two most demeaning jobs in the country; President of the United States and radio broadcaster for the Chicago Cubs~ George F. Will
A for Quade, F For Hill
For Quade, I can’t argue with 24-13 for a team that looked like it was destined to lose at least 95 games.
Koyie Hill gets an F because the guy simply doesn’t hit well enough to warrant being on an MLB roster.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
Find most pretty fair
except Hill. Koyie did what I expected him to do: handle the pitching staff well and be a hole in the lineup.
Not his call that the manager kept playing him and playing him and playing him.
Used like a proper “backup catcher”? And Koyie’s fine.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Oct 5, 2010 12:48 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
+1
Anyone who suffered through the days of Jody Davis should never worry about a catcher’s offensive stats. For that matter, I can’t think of too many catchers in my lifetime who weren’t holes in the lineup.
He calls a decent game, is ok defensively, relatively cheap, and the staff seems to not have a problem with him. That’s an ideal backup catcher to me. I wonder if they feel Castillo doesn’t need one more half-year to a year in the minors before giving him a shot at the major league roster.
[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."
by NobodySpecial on Oct 5, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
If i am remembering correctly
I believe Soto has around 120 games, considering he was shut down for the last 3 weeks that is a fair number of games – I would say Hill was used ok
Soto started 97 games...
… probably about 20-25 less than he would have if healthy.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Yes.
120-125 is optimal for a starting catcher.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I think you pointed to a problem/opportunity
Ramirez heads the list as essentially being a platoon player by injury status. Fukudome by MLB fatigue factor, second base by production and Soto again by injury.
Given that Ramirez & Fukudome are contracted and until further notice Cubs should find a solution. A 3B platoon so that Ramirez is not injured would be good, is that DeWitt or someone else like a Hinske or someone else.
Fukudome should be the rotating OF so that Soriano and Byrd get some time off where Colvin can move to CF but a regular platoon.
Catcher, I think this is an opportunity for Castillo or Chirinos to come up and catch 1/3 of the games, leaving a stronger Soto.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Koyie is Koyie.
We knew what we were getting and steady has value if there’s no one else available. I wouldn’t be upset knowing he was all we could afford after spending money on more important positions than the backup catcher. He was overrated by Lou and Quade both, both wanted seemingly to reward him for years of service and overcoming injury. He wasn’t more than average defensively, couldn’t throw out runners very well and yes a black hole hitting. Koyie is fine. Fine playing for us if that’s all we can afford, and even better playing for someone else so our next manager doesn’t get tempted to reward him for playing through an injury as a reason to play him instead of Geo or a rookie. It’s not an urgent need like other positions but definitely an example of a position that was incorrectly used this year.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
good call
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Me: Q: I can run but not walk. Wherever I go, thought follows close behind. What am I?
Wrigster A: Theriot
Nice.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
The league average batting average was .257, in this the year of the pitcher.
With that in mind, I bump Byrd up to an A. I think he becomes the 2011 leader of the Cubs.
Agreed on DeWitt but in his short time doesn’t he have a better knack for getting key hits with runners on instead of Theriot who got on when it really didn’t count?
Silva, I bump up also. Never saw his first half coming and it wasn’t his fault his heart gave out. Zambrano should have 2 grades. F and an A. What a train wreck that turned up great. That move to the bullpen alone should drop Lou’s grade and whoever agreed with him this was the right thing.
You didn’t grade Rothchild, I give him an A for putting up with Z, Silva, Marmol and the kiddie corp bullpen. the man must have patience coming out of his Arsss.
I also bump up Lilly because he is a stud. If we score more runs for him his record would have been much better and after the trade he delivered for the Dodgers too. A- for Ted.
Agreed on the rest. DLee, too bad it ended this way, you’re a class act and one heck of a defensive 1st baseman. Good luck in the playoffs. And to Lou, Look, you gave us some good memories but what do you want me to say now?
Sandberg for manager!
I would give Byrd an A as well
I can’t tell you how happy I am to have that hustling all out play on the team from a veteran when we have a bit of a youth movement going on. I want Castro to be Byrd’s roommate, locker mate and shadow for the next year.
Wonderful to see the game played the right way. No hot dogging, just good, hard work.
My new favorite Cub.
"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray
Byrd was not nearly as good after the ASB as he was before it
I’d give Byrd an A in the 1st half and a C for the 2nd half, B for the whole season. His 2nd half was pretty brutal offensively….
I could see production...
…from both Byrd and Castro declining next year, which will make Ramirez very important, as all as adding another bat.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Well, he was a 120-130 game/year guy before 2010
Byrd may have run out of gas a little. Soriano may have, too. One of the jobs of the 2011 manager will be to set up a real outfield rotation.
Amen to that
Colvin sitting the first half of the year (for Nady, no less!) was puzzling, but when he was finally inserted into an outfield rotation, it was seemingly at random. If he can play all three positions, then move him between all three and spell your aging CF and LF and have him hit against lefties for your sinister-clueless RF.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
being left-handed myself, I object to your use of the word 'sinister'...
…and the unflattering connotations that come with it.
At the same time however, I applaud your use of the word ‘sinister’ in its purest and original form. A tip of the olive leaf garland to you, my amicus…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
byrd's
huge offensive collapse in the 2nd half makes it hard for me to give him an A. If you go off his first half, sure. But he struggled the 2nd half.
You were very generous pretty much across the board.
But then, you saw much more of them in person than anybody else.
Do you think Nady will be cheap? I don’t think he’ll go for less than what he made this year, and that’s pricey for his production and projected playing time.
Writing quality posts since 1931.
Cheaper than Dunn
That’s all I care about. It’d be nice to get some pop out of Nady, but I’d be happy with the numbers he put up this year if it means we get a chance to go after Gonzalez/Pujols
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
It's sad that I read this list...
…and said to myself “Oh yeah, I forgot he was on the team…”
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Every time we passed it we looked for the For Sale sign!
There was (maybe still is) a big urn on the front stoop (if you can call any part of that house a stoop) with a leafy plant that we watched wilt from inattention. Kinda symbolic in a trite kinda way.
The listing brags about it being steps away from Southport, but doesn’t mention the ballpark. Hmmmm.
$2.4? Woulda been a lot more before the crash. It’s a steal! I say we pool all our dollar and set up a BCB clubhouse!
One of Lee Elia's 15%
You are
right it is a steal. I here the owner relocated and HAS TO SELL. Great idea making it a BCB clubhouse. Al, get your check book out.
Go Cubs!
I've already committed $100 to this project.
Anyone else?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I'm in for $100.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
All we need are 12,000 more people to pledge $100 and we're in!
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
LOL
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
I pledge 100 Euros
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
I could probably talk my husband into $400 easily.
Living so far we really could use a place to crash, especially after those night games. If we go to 16 games again that’s only $25 a night! Subtract the $6 we pay for DeVry parking and it’s only $19 a night. We would save more than that just by eating in over there. Hec, if we add how much we’d save on beer…we might even make money on this deal.
Look into my eyes!
We're getting there.
We have $600 plus 100 euros.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Your grading curve is too generous, Al
This was a D season (was headed to F before Piniella left), and that should really lead to more Ds and Fs in the grades.
In particular, B- is way too generous for Ramirez’s season – he really played good ball for 5 weeks, and for the rest of the year was terrible (before the break) or mediocre (after Piniella left) – for a #4 hitter a season-long split of .241/.294/.452 is really well below avearge.
Soriano is also an average to below average corner outfielder. While his season long stats are in C territory, he was at .301/.368/.589 at the end of May and skidded his way into mediocrity from there. He really is down to being a 1-tool player (power), with little else on offer.
agree on Aramis
and this is what frustrates me and why I’ve never been a big fan of his. He’s able to put up the numbers by the end of the season, but there needs to be some context. This year, when it counted, he simply was absent. When the team needed him to step up, when Lee was struggling and the team couldn’t score runs, he was a big part of that. Injury or not, he was an active player at that time and a poor one. You need to bring expectations into this equation and Ramirez was expected to be one of the players to help carry this offense, and he did not do this very well.
Injury or not, he was an active player at that time and a poor one.
If he was hurt, he shouldn’t have been an active player. I split the blame for that between Aramis himself (who didn’t report it) and Lou and the coaching staff who either didn’t see it or ignored it until it was way too late. Considering the way he hit after his stint on the DL, what would his numbers have looked like had he been shut down a month earlier?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Mostly OK in my eyes, but Z wouldn't get more than a D+ from me and Byrd and Castro are more like A- than B.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Zambrano had about as good an 11-start run as anyone in baseball.
That has to qualify for more than a D+.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I base my poor grade upon his extra-pitching behavior and its timing.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Give some of that markdown to Piniella for yanking him around
Pulling the opening day pitcher to the bullpen and then pushing him back would even upset most unflappable pitchers – which Z is not.
Put any 7-year starter into middle relief for no reason whatsoever 4 starts into the season....
….and see how they react. Do you think that, say, CC Sabathia would have taken a May demotion to “7th inning guy” like a happy trooper?
“But CC, Joba isn’t getting the job done and we have guys like AJ Burnett and Javier Vasquez and Sergio Mitre and Phil Hughes ready to go for the rotation!”
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by D98 on Oct 6, 2010 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Sabathia?
The perennial Cy Young award candidate that actually has deserved and earned his big contract? Not really a fair comparison.
No reason? Did you watch the first four starts? The Cubs couldn’t afford a pitcher that could barely make it out of the fifth inning with their bullpen problems. I wasn’t in favor of moving him to the bullpen, but his poor attitude and inconsistent performance warranted punishment of some kind. I hope he’s put that behind him, but we’ve went through those hopes before.
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by jameslcrockett on Oct 7, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
His selfishness had a major impact on hurting the team this season.
11 starts with most of them out of contention does not change his overall season. I don’t know he deserves a D but he surely doesn’t deserve a B…my gosh you have him right next to Dempster. Have you forgotten you saying you wanted him off the team and didn’t care how they accomplished that? You are doing what management has done since he joined the team…letting him perform well for awhile and forgetting he always melts down in time. I’m glad he went on a tear and turned things around for a little while, but let’s not continue to give him a pass year after year after year. We are stuck with him I realize, but a little perspective would help. Demp B+. Z …B…don’t understand. We had a horrible year and you need to hand out Fs for some of these players as well.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
His "selfishness"?
His “Selfishness” did NOT stick him in the bullpen after 4 starts in which he got increaslingly better. By the time he had his meltdown the damage was done. It was the Hendry/Lou/Rothschild brilliant decision to move him to the bullpen that killed his season.
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by Doggie Stalker on Oct 5, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Z was quite unselfish
For going to the bullpen in the first place. But I wouldn’t look at the Hendry/Lou/Rothschild decision so negatively. Consider it the first step, in a series of events, that led to Zambrano finally turning things around. Let’s not also forget how dreadful the bullpen was in April.
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by BucknerKongCardenal on Oct 5, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Z was steadily improving
It was without a doubt the dumbest move of the season to take an 18 mllion dollar effective starter and stick him in the bullpen. He was totally unsuited for the bullpen.
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by Doggie Stalker on Oct 6, 2010 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's some pretty serious revisionist history.
It was a historically poor decision. The fact that Z rattled off 11 Cy Young-level starts to finish the year doesn’t change the fact that it was an epic, epic blunder that made no sense at the time or in retrospect.
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by D98 on Oct 6, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Revisionist history or whole picture?
And which of the six starting pitchers that the Cubs had did you want moving to the bullpen with the hopes of saving it? The lowest salaried one?
And as long as you get to decide what the facts are, it’s only fair that I get to at least change them.
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by BucknerKongCardenal on Oct 6, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
We're all on the record here.
I thought that Gorzellany or Silva should be moved to the bullpen.
Neither had any kind of history that indicated that their success through 4 starts would be long-lasting, and there were, in fact, several peripheral stats studies that demonstrated that Z was remarkably unlucky through 4 starts, while Silva was remarkably lucky.
And for the record, I didn’t think that moving starting pitchers to the bullpen “with the hopes of saving it” was ever a good plan.
It’s the equivalent of Hendry’s 2009 plan that the only backup 3B was the starting 2B, and then the backup 2B was Aaron Miles, who was also the only backup SS…. it is just remarkably bad planning.
Still, “Hendry massively screwed up the 2010 pen” isn’t a solution, it’s an observation. So, what could Hendry have done as of April 25 or whenever to fix what was broken?
He could have traded for an overpaid reliever who was being shopped, like Kerry Wood, Brian Fuentes, or Matt Capps. The last 2 would have taken prospects – the first would have taken only money. (Probably about $3M.)
He could have suggested to his manager that his 7th inning guy, Marshall, was his best relief arm after Marmol, and could probably handle 8th inning duties – and probably shouldn’t be used solely as a situational lefty for 1 or 2 batters.
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Cross Capps off your list
No way Nats trade him late April/early May. Wood maybe, but few trades ever take place in early May. Fuentes? Remember they are trying to improve the bullpen.
Not many people are in favor of starting pitchers moving to the bullpen to save it, but unfortunately that is where the Cubs were in early May, with six starters and gaping holes in the bullpen. To think Gorzelanny or Silva could be the plug the bullpen craved seems way more far-fetched to me than moving Zambrano there for a spell. The pen needed a late inning guy, not early inning eaters. Who would you rather have pitching with the game on the line late? Silva, Gorzelanny or Zambrano?
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by BucknerKongCardenal on Oct 7, 2010 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Right...Lou made him do it.
He would have melted down anyway, apologizing for his behavior is what enabled him to keep doing it over the years. Lou was to blame for that as well many times, but putting him in the bullpen…advised or not was just a delay in his volatile behavior. It gave him an excuse for poor performance.
Any adult who continues to act childish like he does and hurts the team is perfectly capable of finding help for his actions, and with the way those actions hurt the team yes it was indeed selfish to do so.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
It was decision by Hendry, Lou & Rothschild
It certainly was NOT Z’s choice. Putting him the bullpen was massive waste and misuse of talent. I agree he has behaved very badly but putting him the bullpen was NOT the solution and one more indication that both Lou and Hendry made bad roster decisions.
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by Doggie Stalker on Oct 6, 2010 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions
imagine what he'd have done without
the briliant move to the pen,.
11 starts out of the 20 he was allowed? Not bad.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Imagine what he'd have done without being unstable.
He’s always had the potential to be a good pitcher, but he proves year after year he can’t maintain control of himself when the pressure is on him. It seems very naive of me to think the brilliant move to the pen did anything more than give him an excuse for awhile that he wasn’t doing as expected.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
+1 !!
That’s what Doggie and other Z-defenders simply do not understand.
Z is a whack job, a total loon. That IMO is a significant part that drives his selfishness. He has almost never listened to his coaching staff. That is selfish. Even stupid shit like proper hydration is a reflection of his selfishness.
Culpability is not exactly in the Cubs’ dictionary. It’s really sad since Z has the stuff to be a high-teens win count every season.
Just win the next game...!
What had he done when he was moved to the pen? Nothing.
You poke and prod at a man like Z, screw with his career for arbitrary and stupid reasons, and then call him a total loon when he eventually blows up? Lovely way to run your baseball team.
And “win count”? Cripes. Have we learned nothing around here?
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by D98 on Oct 6, 2010 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Strength of schedule...
Before you crow about those 11 games… maybe you should take a look at the teams he was facing. Not exactly offensive powerhouses. Even with that, his pitch counts were still ridiculously high. He won’t be worth what he gets paid until he economizes his pitches better and lasts longer into games.
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by jameslcrockett on Oct 7, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Too generous to Ramirez ...
not quite generous enough to Byrd and Castro or Quade. Otherwise, very solid, Mr. Yellon.
Yeah, thinking about it again...
… Byrd probably deserved a B+ from me. Biggest flaw = too many strikeouts.
Castro, hopefully, gets an A next year.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I think I would grade more based on expectations.
Byrd, Castro and Quade all exceeded mine, whereas Ramirez really fell flat. I know he was hurt early on, but he wasn’t even really that good late in the year, when he was presumably healthy.
Also, I think Gorzo has more upside than Wells, though I don’t disagree with the grades you gave either of them.
Byrd deserved a B+.
Yeah that is too many strikeouts, it is troubling to think this could be the beginning of him going downhill for us next year…but for awhile he was about our only hitter that hit consistently. Not only is good and bad hitting contagious, but he wasn’t seeing a lot of good pitches to begin with as pitchers realized the next guy was gonna make an out. I was amazed at how well he did. I’d actually say A-….great defense and great offense this year. I don’t think you could have asked for more from him and he’s relatively cheap to boot.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup, his D was great.
He could win a GG.
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He'd be a lock if he played on a contender.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Um ... a lock?
Michael Bourn would like a word.
Can't steal from the bench.
Can’t steal first either.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep and both had same amount of errors.
I’m biased, I saw daily how he caught a lot of balls no one else could get to I’ve seen before. Perhaps you could tell me one of those sabermetrics stats that addresses that since I rarely saw Bourn play. I do know he wasn’t close to being the hitter Marlon was for at least the first half of the season. And perhaps some stats will prove me wrong but I don’t see how Bourn or anyone else could have been the fielder Marlon was. Hitters frequently gave up or stopped running with shallow balls. He played this year like no center fielder for the Cubs I’ve ever seen before.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Byrd's hitting shouldn't factor into the GG argument.
Although I’m not sure that’s precisely what you’re saying.
Nope it shouldn't.
Part of that was thinking of him as a whole since my original comment was he should have had a better grade from Al. A B? I don’t see much point to a grading system that puts performance in the middle. Too many strikeouts? yeah probably but with that lineup he never was gonna get pitches to hit a lot of times.
I wish I had seen Bourn play more, I just simply can’t believe with the vast number of eye popping moments I saw from Marlon anyone could have done a better job this year. I don’t see how Bourn could have made so many good plays so often. It takes a lot more than speed to make those plays. Good reads, good judgement and a desire that says I am gonna make this play no matter what. I want him on my team next year, I’d not want to give up his glove or bat.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Me, too.
I think Byrd deserved a better grade, too. But I come at it from another direction — Byrd simply exceeded my expectations to such a degree that I can’t help but give him high marks.
Sure, his numbers in Texas were better, but that’s no surprise. I think I’d give Marlon a B+, maybe an A-.
Angel Guzman
Whats’s going on with this guy? Last I remember he seemed to be a pretty good setup man for Marmol and then he got hurt for the season. Any idea on how he fits in for next year?
Hard to count on someone who is always hurt.
He’s got good stuff, but cannot stay healthy.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Don't keep your hopes up
His shoulder surgery was a very serious operation. There’s a chance he returns next season, but quite honestly, the Cubs shouldn’t count on him to contribute anything next season. Depending on how his recovery goes, he may have to retire.
by Outshined_One on Oct 5, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
good for the most part
tho’ I really would have given Marlon Byrd a B+ - as good as Tyler Colvin was, he was not Marlon Byrd who not only hustled in the outfield but on the bases as well.
Hendry
C-… are you serious? He spend $144M on a fifth place team. Sorry, but any way you slice it, this is an EPIC fail. He built the worst bullpen we’ve seen in quite some time and while these arms may pay some dividends long term, the 2010 Cubs suffered big time because the pen was a steaming pile of garbage. Offensively, Hendry continued to act like a fantasy league team owner, only to see guys like Lee and Aramis stop putting up numbers. Hendry showed little clue how to build a “team” and its simply laughable that you consider his performance this year “below average”.
by dmlichte on Oct 5, 2010 1:37 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Absolutely agree...
…Hendry’s grade, along with the entire team’s grade, should be a big fat F. $144,000,000 fifth place team is unacceptable. A team spends that much cash and NOT make the playoffs is an automatic failure.
Also, Ramirez is an F as well. We needed him to hit when it counted NOT when we were 20 games out. Same with D. Lee.
Give yourself an A-, too, Al. The reason for the minus is because you didn’t agree with me on every single topic (you need to get that sarcasm button ready for the 2011 season). Kudos for a job well done for the entire season.
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While I don't necessarily disagree
Look at the playoffs this year. There isn’t much correlation between spending money and making the playoffs. Tampa Bay, Texas, Cincinnati, Atlanta and Minnesota all spent less than division rivals who missed.
by JSB on Oct 6, 2010 4:58 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
But, other than the Twins, there is a high correlation making the playoffs consistently and payroll
Cincinnati, Texas, and Atlanta are still pretty wide-eyed because they haven’t been there in a while. And we will see how long the current core of D-Rays lasts with average home attendance in 3 figures counting the vendors and ushers.
Meanwhile, the Yanks and Phillies are big spenders and Boston hung around despite a rash of injuries. Texas has their cup of coffee, but the Angels will be hard to beat in that division again next year.
The problem with the Mets and Cubs is not spending, it’s bad management.
Context to spending
Teams that get into the playoffs with low payrolls aren’t doing so because they’re being fiscally wise and making great decisions on cheap, off the radar free agents. They are often young teams that have several of their key players during their pre-free agency and pre-arbitration years. Take Cincinnati as an example. Their payroll is $76M, however Joey Votto ($500K), Edinson Volquez ($550K), Johnny Queto ($440k), Jay Bruce ($440K), Mike Leake, Travis Wood and others are making far below what the fair market would pay them. Its just that they are not yet subject to either the arbitration process or open bidding on the free agent market.
The Reds payroll is what it is and no one can take away from them the fact that they are in the playoffs having spent $76M, however saying high payroll versus low payroll is really simplifying it. If you take the aforementioned Reds players and made them all free agents, the Reds would have to see their payroll expand to a Cub like $130-140M to keep those guys. This is why its vital for teams to develop their own players, because you’re able to keep your payroll manageable by bringing up young talent with low MLB service time, not yet making the big bucks.
And yet, later in this thread, you're defending Hendry's Lilly trade by saying that 1st rounders are too pricey.
Obviously, having good young homegrown talent is the key.
The Cubs have their own group of players making far less than what they market would pay them. Marmol at $2.1M. Sean Marshall at $900K. Geo Soto at $575K. Randy Wells at $400K. Tyler Colvin at $400K. Starlin Castro at $400K.
The problem is that we have a GM who way overspent for marginal bench types, throwing $4.8M at John Grabow, $13M at Fukudome, $11M at (name redacted), and $3M next year for Samardzjia.
The other problem is that we have a GM who spent “elite level” money on players who are not elite level producers – Zambrano, Soriano and so on.
There’s not a single elite bat in the system. Carlos Marmol is the only arm that I’d consider to be an elite level pitcher. And the payroll has been completely out of control.
The Reds will be able to compete, with a reasonable payroll, even after they pay Votto his market deal. Because they aren’t going to have the massive Grabow/Dome level whiffs bloating up the payroll.
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by D98 on Oct 6, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions
No... I'm not
I didn’t say that I felt that 1st rounders are too pricey, I say that Hendry feels that they are.
Then we agree. But I really hope that Hendry isn't passing on 1st rounders b/c he has to save up for Grabows.
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by D98 on Oct 6, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
He's going to sign the Grabow's regardless
He just has to save money somewhere. Yes its the wrong decision, especially when you have Tim Wilken and others who have proven to be pretty good when it comes to drafting players. A few years ago, when Hendry was handing out these massive, backloaded contracts, I was one of the few people here making a stink, predicting that it would come home to roost. Such is life with a GM who really only knows how to obtain key players by handing out wads of cash.
Which is why it's so disappointing that Ricketts is going to retain him.
Hendry’s failures, while very costly in terms of $$ and years of failure, can only hurt the team in 5-year chunks.
If Ricketts fails, it could hurt the team for decades. It could mean that none of us ever see a Series winner.
I suppose that the jury is still out. But the early returns (1st year draft budget, trading Lilly to save $$) have been universally discouraging.
But that stuff is somewhat behind the scenes, and is subjective to a certain extent. There could have been reasons other than “being cheap” to draft the way we did, or to trade a likely Type A for marginal prospects.
On the other hand, retaining Hendry is a pretty crappy way to get Year Two started, no matter how you look at it.
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by D98 on Oct 6, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I am well aware of why these teams are successful
My point was that it is easy to point to Hendry and say “look you spent all that money, there is reason we should not be not winning.” When in reality,in-house talent development has a lot more to do with which teams are winning today, than which teams have the highest payroll. Having a high payroll isn’t nearly the advantage that many think it is. Not to say that large market teams don’t have an advantage, just that it doesn’t necessarily make it easy to win.
by JSB on Oct 6, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Typically...
…Hendry is graded on a curve. And, a very generous curve at that.
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Agreed and rec'd
Hendry stunk up the joint
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 5, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.
I think these grades were slanted towards a mean all the way around. I did agree with most every comment he had so it’s really not all that important to me which grade each got. The horrifying thing in this is Hendry is still in charge with no expected change in status. That to me is a lot more important than worrying about what Lou did. We’re stuck with getting more crap from Hendry.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, here's how I think of it.
Lou was just awful this season. His lineups were terrible, his lack of ideas was even worse, and the fact that his one meaningful attempt to shake things up entailed sending his volatile ace to the bullpen shows how badly he had lost it. I know his mind was probably elsewhere for a lot of the season. But, put simply, Lou had a terrible, terrible year.
I think it’s harder to judge a GM on one season’s work. Frankly, Hendry made some pretty decent trades in the past 12 months, he signed Marlon Byrd to a great deal and he only made one truly boneheaded decision, which was to give John Grabow a 2-year deal. I know signing Howry wasn’t exactly brilliant, but in the grand scheme, it was a Hail Marry that didn’t work and it wasn’t expensive.
Hendry should be judged for his poor moves (from MB, to Kosuke, to Soriano) that got us into this mess. But judged simply on his actions in the past 12 months — and that’s what Al’s report card is — I’ll give Hendry a pass.
I couldn’t say the same thing about Lou.
Well, yes -- if a pass means a D.
I was one of the few BCBers who was yelling and screaming in ST about Caridad/Berg/Russell/Shark in the pen — while others constantly shot me down with talk of how Carlos Marmol came out of nowhere in 2007.
Hendry fumbled on the bullpen, no question about it. But his inability to get a righty setup guy doesn’t put him below a D in my mind — though they might if I didn’t like the midseason trades Hendry made.
Obviously we'll have to see how the prospects pan out in the mid season trades
But as far as DeWitt goes, color me unimpressed.
Lou was terrible this year and deserves the grade he received. How it was a full letter grade below Hendry’s, well, that boggles my mind.
I think I'd give Hendry a D, and Lou a D-.
DeWitt is never gonna be an All-Star. But I view him as a means-to-an-end player. He’s left-handed and cheap, meaning the Cubs could use the limited money they have next season on other positions.
If DeWitt doesn’t pan out, putting him on waivers won’t be too painful. And the Cubs probably have a decent replacement in waiting in Darwin Barney.
actually he already had a righty setup guy in Marmol.
He could have easily gone out and gotten a FA closer, i.e. Valverde. Sure they cost more, but I’d say they’re easier to predict what you’re gonna get.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Hmmm.
Valverde signed with Detroit for 2 years, $14 million. Could the Cubs have afforded that last offseason — even if they hadn’t signed Grabow? I don’t honestly know.
Yeah, it's definitely at the high end of what I would've been willing to pay...
…and it might have prevented some other moves from being made (which might have been a good thing anyway).
But to continue on the Hindsight Train, Run #2020… if we hadn’t had so many bullpen implosions in the beginning of the season, things might have turned out very differently. Plus we’d now be in a position of being more sure of what we have in Marmol, to the point that we could easily deal Valverde this offseason for something we need or dangle Marmol for a really big deal, i.e. Gonzalez.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Maybe.
But it’s worth noting that in January, when Valverde signed with Detroit, the Cubs were counting on Angel Guzman, who was the Cubs best reliever in 2009.
That doesn’t let Hendry off the hook for not getting anybody to shore up the pen AFTER Guzman went down.
I'm still amazed ...
that so many BCBers were cool with having essentially FOUR rookie relievers to start the year — mainly because they remembered Carlos Marmol coming out of nowhere in 2007.
Marmol had more MLB experience in 2006 than any of the guys the Cubs were counting on (other than Shark). And even when Marmol did break out in 2007, he wasn’t put in the role that Caridad was in 2010. Bob Howry was the primary right handed setup guy in 2007, at least, to start the year.
I was unhappy about the bullpen
At the same time, I’m still shocked that there wasn’t even one young guy who came up and was even slightly above average. I figured someone would be decent.
I figured that Grabow would be better, so I was wrong on that one.
That was the double-whammy. Grabow was terrible and all the kids (who were with the team in April) were pretty terrible.
Grabow, at least, had an excuse.
He was injured. Presumably, he will be 100% next spring.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I will have to hope the injury hampered his performance.
At 4.8 Million …it buys me trying to believe it. At least you might say it’s unlikely he will be that bad again.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions
At least he becomes DFA-able as that contract runs down.
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by D98 on Oct 6, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Ugh.
More years of saying some moves were good that were making up for bad moves. Please, get rid of this bum already.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes.
I’m saying that those good moves do not make up for the bad ones. He’s gonna make some mistakes of course, but his have set the team back for a long time into the future. It’s time for a new vision. Expecting him to suddenly be different would be madness after this much time.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
There are two ways to look at it.
Jim Hendry had to sign a bunch of players to backloaded contracts to help Tribco sell the team. The fact that all the contracts came to roost in 2010, and some in 2011, isn’t something Hendry could have really changed.
Or …
Jim Hendry was given a blank check by Tribco, signed a bunch of aging, fundamentally flawed players and topped those off by signing the clubhouse cancer of clubhouse cancers and an unproven Japanese player to deals worth $78 million.
I lean more toward the second camp, because I can’t justify the MB signing or the Kosuke signing (I don’t buy all the defenses of the Kosuke signing). However, I can see where a new owner MIGHT want to give our embattled GM one more shot, given the mitigating factors.
That's fair.
I’m OK with giving Hendry this offseason. After that …
The problem with giving him his 15th chance
is that a lot of decisions will have to be made soon and it won’t be long until he makes ones that could impact our team until 2018…just like he set us back until 2013 or 2014 now. I want someone else, at least you tried someone else that perhaps has a better vision than using the same one that got you into the mess in the first place.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, come on.
He’s not going to hand anybody a 7-year contract, so I doubt he’ll impact the team until 2018. Also, the lack of available money will probably limit how many long-term deals he could hand out.
He may not this off season.
But he surely could and will impact our team for years with who he signs and who he ignores. I was talking about him being in place for multiple years with the 2018 statement. Ricketts said he wants him as his GM for the future. It makes my skin crawl. He’s had a long history that’s bad…why does he merit a “chance” when you already know what he will do? That’s what scares me about Ricketts the most…he seems to need to see it with his own eyes before he’s suitably upset. That looks like it will take awhile …it’s very frustrating.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, do we have anyone in the "system" right now to replace Hendry?
Randy Bush is Asst GM now, right? Do you think he has what it takes to succeed as Cubs GM?
If not, that means Ricketts would have to look outside the Cubs to fill the spot. A long-time owner would probably have no problem making an educated and/or smart choice in bringing a new GM in. But a new owner, with little baseball industry background? That’s a tougher call, don’t you think?
And for those that have been proponents of bringing in a ‘baseball guy’ to make these kind of calls, okay – that makes sense. But the same logic applies to hiring the baseball guy. Do we have anyone in the system now to be that guy? I think the answer is pretty clearly no.
Again, a longtime owner with a good network in the industry could probably tap a baseball guy pretty easy enough. But a new owner? Again, not so easy.
With no obvious choices sitting around, i.e. Dallas Green, I don’t begrudge Ricketts a little extra time here.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
No I don't know who would be a better choice.
And him taking awhile in a search isn’t the worst thing in the world if that’s what he’s doing. I take him at his word until he proves differently and all he’s said so far is he wants Hendry for the future.
To answer your question though, if I had Ricketts’ money I’d find some good consultants to ask which candidates to consider. I don’t think Ricketts can make those choices himself. He’s got access to resources I’ll never have. He needs to use them.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Ned Colletti for GM?
What about Ned Colletti of the Dodgers? That team is likely to see lots of changes with the ownership divorce scandal. Colletti used to work in the Cubs organization. If Hendry was fired and Colletti replaced him, I bet you that Ryne Sandberg would be at the top of the list for managers. However, if I were to bet money on anyone right now to be the next Cubs manager, it would be on Quade. I’m sorry, Sandberg fans. Count me in as one of them. They’re going with Quade. I will be stunned if they hire anyone other than Quade.
by jeffmills1972 on Oct 5, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
You have to go outside...
…the organization to find the right leadership going forward. You really want a fresh view point and not someone who may be tainted and can’t see what is right in front of them.
I already think Ricketts made the wrong call by not doing this right out of the box, but I’ll give him this offseason to make this happen.
With that said, I don’t anticipate him making this move until the 2011 team fails to make the playoffs and then it will be a year too late.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
If things play out as you describe...
…wouldn’t it just be a year later as opposed to a year too late?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I guess it would...
…but what I meant was this; if you stay with a guy who has a history of making bad decisions, letting him run things for another year is just going to make things that much more difficult for a new guy to turn around and may indeed magnify your problems.
If Ricketts was paying attention during the extended due dilligence, I don’t understand how he couldn’t see there was a critical issue that needed to be addressed after he took over. He had the means to find a new GM if he wanted to, but I really believe Hendry has him snookered that everything is in great shape.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Amen to that.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
No modern GM picks three managers
Without winning a single thing….. this is insane.
The Cubs more oftne than not have been futile under Jim Hendry, and hehas proven incapable of pricing an average to above average MLB offense during his nine years.
You are correct...
…and you rarely (if ever) see any GM get this opportunity without a ring on their finger.
When you add in the bad decisions that have wasted resources, and the bad roster construction in most years, you really have to give Hendry credit for selling the people above him that he has things going in the right direction.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
One of my issues is how we're defining "good" moves.
Were Cubs fans glad to get rid of Bradley? Absolutely. Does that make receiving an out of shape pitcher who had an 11 ERA in the second half a “good” move? To me, not really. Same goes for Theriot. We were all happy (well, minus Ace Venom) to see that guy go. But how much credit are we supposed to give Hendry for grabbing another sub 700 OPS 2B? IMO, very little.
The MB trade ...
should not be used as a defense for Hendry.
The Theriot/Lilly trade is harder to figure. The Cubs got a very cheap, lefty-hitting second baseman who works for budgeting purposes if nothing else. And they got some minor leaguers who could have an impact.
Anyway, both Lilly and Theriot were gone at the end of the year, anyway, so Hendry got some value by sending them to LA for two months.
Agreed, which is why I took issue with Al's defense of Hendry's grade
This grade also would have been lower, but Hendry did manage to turn his mistake of the previous offseason ([name redacted]) into a serviceable starting pitcher
Yes, Hendry got some value for Theriot and Lilly (or so we hope). I’m not condemning him for doing so at all. But if DeWitt brings his 689 OPS to the starting lineup next year again, then I’m going to think even less of that aspect of the trade.
Actually, I agree with you.
DeWitt has to improve. However, he could also be part of a platoon with Baker, which would make the most out of both of them.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
yeah, two mediocre players in the position of one!
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 5, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
No.
Taking advantage of what both do well. Have you looked at Baker’s numbers against LHP? He rakes. He’s kind of like the infield version of Reed Johnson, hitting wise.
If you platooned DeWitt and Baker, you might get a .300-hitting second baseman who’d hit about 15 home runs. I’d take that.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I still don't know why we were so hell-bent on getting DeWitt.
It sure seems like tinkering around at the margins with mediocrities to me.
Meanwhile, Lilly is projected as a Type A free agent. In a year with an absolutely loaded 1st year player draft.
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by D98 on Oct 6, 2010 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions
We were more hell-bent on getting anything at all for Theriot
Sure, DeWitt sometimes looks like a LH Riot at the plate, but his defensive instincts are stronger and at a younger age, too. In comparison to Riot, he’s younger, cheaper, has more pop, and is better defensively. A slight upgrade in talent for a huge upgrade in value, IMHO.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Theriot wasn't going to be a Type A free agent.
The Cubs lost something very valuable when they traded Lilly.
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by D98 on Oct 6, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions
They got two other prospects...
… one of whom (Wallach) may turn into something good.
They’d have had to offer arb to Lilly. They weren’t going to do that.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Wallach is not worth a first rounder.
He was good prior to the trade, and horrible for Peoria.
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by D98 on Oct 6, 2010 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions
So, maybe he'll be good next year.
Just as much a crapshoot as a low first round pick.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Type A = $$$
With a decision by the Cubs brass to pare the payroll slightly, I imagine Hendry didn’t want the extra draft pick, which would have cost him a significant amount of money to sign.
That's silly. Draft picks are how you build the organization.
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by D98 on Oct 6, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Thats not what I said
I did not say that the decision was a good one. I said that Hendry likely didn’t want to spend the money. Three years ago he had unlimited resources and would have spent whatever on draft picks. Now, he’s under the constraints of both an owner who is going to (slightly) reduce payroll as well as the bloated contracts that he handed out. Hendry needs to save money somewhere and likely that means saving money on the draft.
OK, then we are in agreement.
I would seriously hate to think that could be the case, though! Free agents cost exponentially more.
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by D98 on Oct 6, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I'll freely admit Hendry made some good moves of course.
Heck that Lilly deal could be one of them. It was a better trade than I thought he would get. I just don’t like using those to compensate for other bad ones that have a lot more impact than DeWitt is likely to ever have. Gander at that bullpen up there at the top. Look at what we are stuck with in Dome, Sori and Z. It’s not hard to think when Hendry has the next chance to sign someone long term he will make another disastrous choice that consumesa large chunk of payroll. I think expecting something different is madness.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
With what it will cost...
…the Cubs in empty seats in 2010 and 2011, Ricketts could have bought out Hendry’s contract 20 times over.
I strongly believe Ricketts will come to regret not recognizing the weaknesses at the top sooner, and buying into what Hendry is selling him.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Why not hold on to Lilly for the 1st round draft pick?!
We needed Blake DeWitt that badly?
MLBTR’s formula has Lilly as a Type A, and by quite a bit.
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by D98 on Oct 6, 2010 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions
We traded the last two months of Lilly's season for a couple of minor-league pitching prospects
We traded Theriot for DeWitt. It helps if you think of it as two separate trades that just happened to be made at the same time.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Well then. That's a lot worse.
Ted Lilly is going to be a Type A free agent.
As such, if he is offered arbitration and leaves, the Dodgers will get a first-round draft pick from the signing team AND a sandwich pick after the first round.
2 first rounders in the 2011 draft, or Blake DeWitt and Kyle Smit and Brett Wallach. Your call.
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by D98 on Oct 6, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions
But if the Cubs had offered Lilly arb, he probably would have accepted.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Where's the downside there?
Lilly is very good, and it would be a 1-year deal.
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by D98 on Oct 6, 2010 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions
And also, do you really think he would have accepted?
He’s going to be 35 next year, and his next multi-year contract will probably be his last.
Plus, he’s coming off some very productive years – you have to strike while the iron is hot, especially when you’re 35 and you don’t know how much longer you’re going to be a top producer.
Finally, he’s one of the top arms on the market this year. There’s going to be huge money on the table for him.
I really severely doubt that he’d pass up the opportunity to make one final big contract, because he wanted to go through the arb process with the Cubs and get a 1-year deal at age 35.
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by D98 on Oct 6, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
That is far from certain
As a LH starter who still looked good, Lilly will probably at least get 2-year offers as a FA.
That's what I'm saying.
Especially as a 35-year-old, I can’t imaging Lilly waiting another year to sign his final multi-year deal.
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by D98 on Oct 6, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Shoot, the Yankees may even need a LH starter - Pettite is looking near the end
They’ll go after Lee, but since when have the Yanks stopped at 1 FA pitcher?
Lilly would
get destroyed in the AL East. He needs to pitch in a spacious ball park against weaker lineups because he’s a fly-ball pitcher with decreasing velocity. He’d be smart to stay out west, whether that’s the Dodgers or someone in the AL West, I do not know.
"You've got to get your damn shirts rolled up and go out and kick somebody's ass. That's what you've got to do. Period." -- Lou Piniella
Would you have wanted him on next year's roster at ~$12M?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Sure, why not?
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by D98 on Oct 6, 2010 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Why not?
Because under this organization’s backassward thinking, that would eat up any possible funds for the improvements this team needs. I hope they resign Ted Lilly (I don’t think Dodgers even offer him arbitration with their problems), but not to $12mil per year when this team needs many more improvements than the rotation.
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by jameslcrockett on Oct 7, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Ted Lilly is a Type A free agent. Therefore, trading him was a bad idea.
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by D98 on Oct 6, 2010 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions
That's incorrect
A GM is evaluated by the state of the team, the seasonal record, his winning % and pennants.
Yeah, but when his "good" moves are made to undo his bad moves
The best he can do is get back to 0….
Hmm... I wonder if Hendry is a big Kinks fan ;-)
♪ ♬ Then it’s back where you started
Here we go round again
Back where you started
Come on, do it again Do it again ♫ ♪
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I like the Kinks
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
Foe a young guy
you like a lot of older music. That’s cool.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Yeah.
I hear some of the good stuff on the radio. In 2001,when I was about 9. I saw a commercial for the Beatles 1 cd. I thought “hey those guys sound cool” and asked my dad to order it for me. I had to discover some of the older music I like. I’m into 50’s rock right now. I really don’t like today’s modern rock. I think it sounds too bland and not very original.
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
That's about the same age I got introduced to
the stones, guess who, jimi, etc. It sure was a lot better than the stuff out now…most of it at least. They didn’t start with the idea of marketing and image which changes stuff enormously. execs these days take a group and buy them their clothes, a studio artist, give them songs to sing…there’s not much left for talent and creativity.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I know you ain't talkin' about the Ghetto Avenue Boys!!
"One of the things I like about baseball is that between innings you can go to the restroom.'' ~Manny Acta.
What if I am huh? want a piece of me?

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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions
More likely Springsteen
Somewhere along the line I
slipped off track
I’m caught movin’ one step up
and two steps back.
Completely agreed. It's been several straight years of poor performance for Hendry.
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by D98 on Oct 6, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Why the minus for Sean Marshall?
Also, Dempster gets a B+ and Zambrano a B? IMO, Z should be AT LEAST one full letter grade below Dempster.
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie" -- Tony Montana
I didn't think anyone deserved an A this year.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Marshall and Marmol both had very good seasons.
They stayed healthy and they were the only consistent guys in the pen. I don’t really disagree with your grades for them, but I wouldn’t be opposed to giving either of them As.
I’m also wondering about Cashner and Russell. I suppose they each earned a C+, but they seem SO much better than Justin Berg, IMO.
Actually, I probably gave Berg a grade higher than he deserves.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I would give Marmol an A.
He’s the student who drove you crazy because he didn’t meet his potential and then got better and better and then aced the final.
One of Lee Elia's 15%
Yes exactly.
Everyone knows he walks people too much and continues to be erratic at times. I’d like to see him control that but for this year, all year he got the job done, I am not sure you can count on that exactly next year…but regardless he did everything we asked of him well this year.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I had a teacher like that once.
Didn’t give out A’s. I hated her guts. Never worked so hard for an A-. Now I think of her as the best teacher I ever had.
Look into my eyes!
Did she say that?
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
No. Not at all.
That came out wrong and didn’t make one bit of sense. Don’t mind me.
Look into my eyes!
Oh it made sense.
Don’t listen to him. You were just saying that a grading system worked well for you and you like them being tough. He’s just looking for an argument here.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly.
It was fine Katie.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Look at the numbers
I dont think Al was judging on fundraisers and press quotes. The team underperformed: give them all F. The rest is nitpicking.
Wherever you go, there you are!
It's not nitpicking.
You could question whether any fan ratings are significant of anything, but then, you could argue that NOTHING on BCB is that significant.
A big part of the popularity of sports is that fans can argue.
I disagree
fan ratings ARE significant and Tom needs to listen to us, BCB is the end all be all of everything and sports arent that popular…
He's right and I bet those interwebs never catch on either.
Kids these days seem to jump on everything like it was the best thing since sliced bread. Wait…brb, kids on my lawn again!
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I predict...
…Castro will have drop off in his offensive production next year, but his defense will be better.
He still has a bit of a long swing, and I think the league will expose that until he adjusts.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
It was Sept 9, I think, the day before a road trip.
Some Cubs go straight to the airport (or in this case, drive directly to Milwaukee), but a lot of them will meet at Wrigley Field, then get on a bus to airport (or again, in this case Milwaukee). It’s usually a pretty good time to get autographs as it’s low-key, not very crowded and players are usually more approachable, less in a hurry. The flip side is though, without their uniforms, it’s sometimes hard to tell who’s who – especially with the young guys.
That day, there were four of us standing around, having fun playing the “who’s that?” guessing game and getting a few autographs here and there. One player gets out of cab, unloads the rolling suitcase, and starts to walk by. None of us can figure out who it is, so as the player walks by us, one guy asks for his autograph on a blank card. Player says “No thanks” and keeps going. Then he stops, kinda turns and says over his shoulder “Off day” as if an explanation was needed for his refusal.
I think folks here made a bigger deal out of it than it really was. I didn’t detect any real malice or rudeness from him – we all thought it was just hilarious on so many levels. First, it was only one guy that asked for the autograph. Second, the player is obviously a rookie so how many people are even gonna want his autograph. But I don’t hold that against him – my philosophy is if they want to sign, great; if they don’t, oh well, life goes on.
But what made this so funny is the way he stopped and said “Off day”, like maybe he thought he wasn’t allowed to sign because it was an off day or something. All in all, it was really no big deal – probably one of those “you had to be there” moments. But it made for a lot of laughs that day, and still invokes a chuckle when I think about it.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
soo...now you remember the Maine!
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Darwin Barney
gets the same grade as Starlin Castro….not so much.
....
Here’s the list of all other players in major league history who have done that at age 20 (seven of them): Alex Rodriguez, Al Kaline, Vada Pinson, Claudell Washington, Orlando Cepeda, Ken Griffey Jr., and Mickey Mantle — a pretty impressive bunch.
Wow, he had one of the best seasons in history by a 20 year old! No doubt that will lead to a high grade!
Starlin Castro, shortstop: B.
Um, oh. Or not.
I’ve decided to apply this grading scale to some other historic achievements by youngsters just to see how it would work:
Jyoti Guptara was one of the youngest best-selling authors of all time. However, he needs to focus on the core plot elements a little more. Also I feel he didn’t use enough commas. C+
Sir William Lawrence Brag was the youngest nobel prize winner of all time for his pioneering work with x-rays. Needs to show improvement next year. C-
Haley Joel Osment in The Sixth Sense was one of the youngest actors to ever get nominated for an Oscar. However, my friend spoiled the ending of that movie for me which really detracted from my enjoyment of that movie. Osment needs to try harder next time. D-
Justin Beiber was one of the youngest male solo artists to chart number one in Soundscan. Love his haircut. A+
Hmm, not sure what happened on that last one. Weird.
Referred to Bieber as an "artist" too.
Something’s definitely amiss there.
Product, maybe. Artist? NFW.
He just twittered how everee1 thinks he an r-tist heeee
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow. Did you guys even watch the same team I did?
They score a A++++++++++++++++++++++++++The Cubs were AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
Such a big word
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Miss Shields agrees with you...

There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion?
Bet he would use more exclamation points.
To be fair I think TJ’s grades should be on the front page as well. He did a good job of rating the team this year.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Just to point out
Bobby Scales made it to the big league’s. You and all of us did not
Hope he has a good career as a coach
"If The Phone Doesn't Ring, It's Me"
Someone tell Al "Fix yo grades, yo! Err one of them."
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
If Zambrano pitches the whole season like he did the last two months, he gets an A.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
But we dont like him, so dont say anything positive.
And let’s not forget his salary!
Wherever you go, there you are!
If wishes were fishes I'd be eating for years.
What’s exactly the point of that statement? More than likely if it weren’t for the whole bullpen circus show he melts down a month earlier. Glad he improved but for you to suggest he could have very well had a great season…well yeah but its very likely as well he stinks up more of the season too.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
If Carlos...
faces the Pirates, Brewers, Nationals, Padres and Giants (especially on the road) the whole season, he’d probably win a Cy Young. Among those 11 games might have been 3, maybe 4 impressive performances, and 90% of them came with the same ridiculous pitch counts that will continue to limit his value as a starter.
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by jameslcrockett on Oct 7, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm surprised you didn't bring up the pitchers failing to hit home runs in his grades.
Where’s the book of the Goon in this?
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
You crack me up, Al - a place in Cub lore, really?
Even if Snyder never plays another major league game, he’ll have a place in Cub lore — he drove in the only run in a 1-0 win over the Padres in the season’s final week, helping knock San Diego out of the postseason. Most likely, Snyder’s 28 major league plate appearances are it for him.
Man, your grudgeness knows no bounds. I only hope I never get on your bad side – assuming I’m not there already… ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
No, of course you're not.
Grudge? I have no grudge against Snyder. I just don’t think he’s a major league player.
But it was cool for him to drive in that run. Glad the Cubs won that game and helped knock the Padres out.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
the grudge reference was towards the Padres, not Snyder.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I would say he's not exactly the only one with a grudge towards the Padres.
Take a gander in the game thread for the last game or in the recap of it. I celebrated that a lot and still do…good on Snyder for helping knock them out of the playoffs, and he did it with them in their mocking retros to boot!
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds like Al was more happy about the Padres losing that game than the Cubs winning
by Wreckard on Oct 5, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly
I do not understand the animus towards the Padres by the 40+ crowd on this site. I couldn’t give two hoots about the Marlins.
by JSB on Oct 5, 2010 5:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The Padres take every opportunity to rub 1984 in the Cubs faces.
But I was 4 in 1984, so I don’t care that much either.
My teacher told me I was too apathetic to succeed in life.
But who cares what she thinks.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
My coach once asked me why I wasn't hustling - was it apathy or ignorance?
I said, “Coach, I don’t know and I don’t care.”
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Not giving 2 hoots about the Marlins is a trait you share with the entire population of SE Florida
And the Marlins are already in the clutches of Beelzebub. He goes by the name of “Loria” these days.
Yes, truly, a little bribe never hurt.

Is this how Ramirez got such a good grade?
Look into my eyes!
Yes.
I’d be happy with paying for him on my team anyday and I say that loud and proud. Get him back on the team, it’s the right thing to do. I know it messes up the payroll…yada yada yada. I don’t see him asking for an overly extravagant salary. I want him pitching for the Cubs when the game starts.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Disagree.
I read yesterday that Lilly wants a 3-year deal. Teams that are trying to rebuild in the midst of a payroll logjam should not sign a 35-year-old to such a deal — even if he did knock Yady Molina on his ass.
Well I don't have access to his contract demands.
Sure there is a point where he’s not worth committing to with our season next year likely to suck regardless. It’s not worth blowing your wad on one pitcher then struggling to find low cost sucky players to fill voids as a result. Who knows. I hope we sign him. I hope he will accept a low enough salary we can. I want him on the team. I know he will step up when it’s game time.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
He won't accept a low enough salary.
The fact that his house is on the market is pretty telling, especially now. If he had any intention of coming back to Chicago, he wouldn’t put a $2 million home for sale during one of the worst real-estate markets of modern times.
I like him too, Twin. But he ain’t coming back.
Well, both of those business situations are one-sided right now.
Sure he wants a 3 year deal, but until someone gives it to him, it doesn’t matter.
Likewise, sure his house is on the market, but until someone makes an offer, it doesn’t matter.
At $2.4M, I don’t expect the house to move that fast. I suppose he could drop his price but I’m guessing he’s not a real motivated seller at this point so it will probably sit for awhile. And on the slim chance the Cubs make him a decent offer in the next few months, he can always take the house off the market and move back in.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
That's true.
I just don’t see Lilly coming back, unless a lot of other moves get made to clear payroll. I see the Cubs making four, five moves tops in the offseason, and signing a good No. 3 starter for two or three years doesn’t feel like one of them, given the Cubs budget situation.
Now, if Lilly doesn’t have a contract on Feb. 1, I would hope Jimbo would find the old EKG machine, grab his cell phone, and recreate that magical discussion from four years ago.
Agreed. Bringing Lilly back would be more of a feel-good move than a strategic move.
Something like signing Wood could be an example of both.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
This.
His house being on the market doesn’t mean much besides he has no idea who will sign him in the off season. And likewise, his opening contract demands are just there to get a better position. I don’t expect the Cubs to commit to him, I think they are wary of signing any vets right now, especially one with a much higher salary than a rookie. I don’t think Demp would be signed if his contract was up. I realize we probably won’t sign Ted but I hope we do, I like knowing I have that guy in my corner.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Lilly will be the 2nd best FA pitcher
He will either get a full 3 year deal or one that vests if he is healthy in the first two.
Personally I think he is worth the money but the Cubs don’t have it or at least don’t think it should be spent on him. He said as much when he left. He made it clear he wanted to stay but the Cubs would not discuss an extension. It is not a terrible move to let Lilly go, but I will miss him.
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 5, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Surprisingly, I agree with you.
I don’t think I’d give him more than one year. I still ♥ him though. And I actually didn’t like that he knocked Molina on his ass. I remember thinking that was stupid…I did like the spark it created in the team though.
Look into my eyes!
Lilly was a great Cub, and was one of Hendry's best signings.
But I wouldn’t give him more than 2 years in a vacuum, and I wouldn’t give him more than one given the current state of the Cubs.
Berg deserves a D- at best,
the guy is a disaster. If it was me, I’d give him an F. And why do you dislike Bobby Scales so much? The Cubs brought him up in September of a lost season, its irrelevant. I agree with you that he has a potential future in coaching, could he be a 3rd base coach?
"You've got to get your damn shirts rolled up and go out and kick somebody's ass. That's what you've got to do. Period." -- Lou Piniella
Don't see dislike in Scales in his rating.
I do see Al saying he shouldn’t be playing for the Cubs and he shouldn’t. He never was that good and his time is passed. I hope he succeeds as a coach or whatever he chooses to do. Just don’t prolong your stay with us, we need someone there who has potential of playing well for us in the future.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
That's ridiculous.
Scales being called up to play a few games in September has not blocked the development of any players. Him being here did no harm to the organization. He won’t be back next season, so who cares?
"You've got to get your damn shirts rolled up and go out and kick somebody's ass. That's what you've got to do. Period." -- Lou Piniella
Yeah, as I said above...
… I gave Berg too high a grade.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Nady
I just saw a picture of Nady in a tux during Casino Night 2010 – so for that reason alone I vote he stays and gets a higher grade….
;-)
Chris"I'm a chick" tina
He wishes he could wear it as well as the Ted

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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Well that goes without saying!
Ted can wear a potato sack and look good!!
I miss Ted :(
Chris"I'm a chick" tina
You'll need SWL for that one.
A potato sack? lol
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Speaking of Ted pictures, here's one for the ladies... and men!
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
and he LOVES doggies.
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 5, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Lilly's powers are flowing into the cat!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!
The cat looks like it is about to destroy the dog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
Ted can make it do anything he wants.
He may like doggies but I suspect he likes who is holding the doggie a lot more ;)
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
the dog collar?
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
she's got her hands around the doggie.
Yer just tryin’ to stir up trouble aren’t ya? lol
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm at a rebelling age. LWDYWMTD?
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
That is actually a lynx Lilly is cuddling
"I'd rather hit home runs you don't have to run as hard." -- Dave Kingman
by BucknerKongCardenal on Oct 5, 2010 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
jeez
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
Sweet picture.
Tasha is very pretty and the kitten is adorable.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
The dog is a cutie too...
Don’t want to forget the dog.
"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"--The Brain
by brook on Oct 5, 2010 10:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That's right....he LOVES doggies!
At least so I’m told…
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry I'm not
a big dog fan.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
personally
I have 2 cats at home, so I choose cats as pets over dogs…. but I like dogs too – they are just too much work
I see you are a Hawkeye fan so I don’t care you aren’t a big fan of dogs!
GO HAWKS!
Chris"I'm a chick" tina
Thanks! :)
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
btw, this is from an old issue, but I may be able to get a hold of some extra copies.
If you’re a Lilly admirer (Ted or Tasha) and would like a copy of this magazine, send me an e-mail (check my profile) with your mailing address information. I’ll send out what I can, on a first come, first serve basis.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Tasha is a hottie.
But it sounds a little creepy to me to ask you look for old magazines of her myself. Just for me.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, you could tell yourself you're just getting a copy in case you run into Ted someday...
…and you want to get his autograph.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
No thanks.
I think I’ll make it without an old magazine of ted and his veternarian wife. somehow lol.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
You only gave a 'B' to Marlon Byrd????

There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion?
I needed that pic when I said the same thing above. Perfect!
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
How did you do these grades?
Were they based at all on salary/expectations? If so, I don’t see how you can give Castro and Byrd only one grade above Soriano and Ramirez. In my book Ramirez gets a C, Soriano a C+, Byrd a B+ and Castro an A-. Byrd did all that you could have hoped for, and for a 20-year old playing SS, Castro darn near deserved an A. I also would give Demp a B and Wells a B- for the same reasons.
by JSB on Oct 5, 2010 5:28 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Al,
You were far too lenient on Lou — he deserves no more than an H (for horrible). It’s no surprise that the Cubs played better under Q — they weren’t having to continually brown-nose and wonder who was next to be thrown under a bus.
Having said that…
Great review! Thanks for all of your hard work during such a down year.
DMH
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Where's the preview for the game tonight?
Oh wait…damn….:(
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 6:55 PM CDT reply actions
cant we have a pretend game?
what are we goimg to do without any game threads? now I just have another reason to miss baseball….darn you Al!
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
Al said in another post he will have game threads up for the playoffs.
So at least you’ll have that if you wish.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
And you will have that...
…. later this morning.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Holy Hendry apologizing
You’re going to give a C- to a GM who finished in fifth place, i nthe weakest division in baseball with the highest payroll in the national league???
Are you kidding me? And to top if off, just today Forbes named Hendry the least effecient GM in MLB:
It’s clear to anyone with a lick of baseball sense that Hendry is the biggest problem with this awful team.
Maybe Ricketts...
…isn’t a stats guy after all.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Anyone...
else wathcing the E:60 special on the Sox? Anyone else thinking, that could have been us?
yuppy yuppington
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
Nitpicking
Sam Fuld has 28 AB… and doesn’t do much, so he gets a D.
Wellington Castillo has 20 AB… and he is “incomplete”?
Shut up Joe Morgan.
Castillo is incomplete because he barely played.
We already know what Fuld can do. See the difference?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Wait...
so these grades were cumulative?? Because that’s the only way “we already know what Fuld can do”. I thought you were just grading this season’s performances, which is why I compared ABs from this season.
If we are judging players by what “we already know they can do”, then a BUNCH of the grades should be changed.
And by the way, I’ve noticed you’ve admonished people more frequently for being snarky, snippy, and/or taking “swipes”. Yet you’ll throw out a “see the difference?” with the exact same intent.
I know it is your site and you can do what you want. And I really have great respect for the site you run… but hope you’ll reconsider your use of “see the difference?” if you’re going to ask other posters to avoid taking subtle (or not so subtle) swipes.
Shut up Joe Morgan.
The grades as are I saw them...
…. they’re subjective. Do you think I should just rank them by numbers, WAR, whatever?
Your opinion differs from mine. That’s fair.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Well of course they're subjective.
I wouldn’t care what method(s) (stats, eyeball test, etc.) you used… but most grading is done by evaluating a standard time period (whether that be a season, a range of years, a career, whatever) or a dedicated submission (like a teacher who grades a paper or an exam, independent of previously submitted work… or the evaluation is labeled as cumulative… as in a 2 year performance review).
It wasn’t your choice of giving Fuld a “D”… he certainly didn’t do much of anything to enhance his case to stick around… I just didn’t understand the basis for the measurement.
Almost all of the grades seemed based on performance during the 2010 season. That’s why I just didn’t get why you chose to grade Fuld with a (deserving) “D” but Castillo had an incomplete (why not just award him a “C”, for doing ok in limited opportunities?).
Since Fuld’s body of work clearly went into his grade, I didn’t understand why that standard was applied to some (Fuld and Snyder, for instance) but not applied to others (e.g., don’t we “know what we have” in Grabow?).
As I noted in my initial post, I was only nitpicking anyway.
Shut up Joe Morgan.
Man
I thought he just put that in there to tweak DS. You’re taking all the fun out of this :P
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
No, that wasn't it.
Fuld didn’t do much this year, after doing fairly well last year.
Castillo — we haven’t seen enough of him to know. Thus “incomplete”.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
OK
But that’s exactly my point.
What does Fuld’s performance last year have to do with his grade?
I don’t disagree with the general point (we’ve seen all Fuld can do and still don’t know about Castillo).
Still, I thought these were 2010 grades. Lee also did much better than “fairly well” last year… so shouldn’t his grade go up?
How is Grabow “incomplete”? He appeared in 20+ games and he also did “fairly well last year”.
I’ll let it go because it really doesn’t matter. I was just trying to figure out what parameters you were using to give certain players, but not others, an incomplete.
Shut up Joe Morgan.
Subjective factors.
Call it “grading on a curve”.
:-)
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Exactly when...
Did Fuld get more of a chance than Castillo got? Neither deserve an I… unless it stands for “Incompetently Managed”.
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by jameslcrockett on Oct 7, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
No one likes Al's grades....
and what’s up with the Christmas Story pictures?
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
Should have been an F for Samardzija.
Just get that guy in the NFL already.
Counting the days until 4/1/11...
Too generous with Quade.
Could we all be ‘on the rebound’ after Lou?
We'll be all right if we can just get back on the expressway.-Elwood
The mysterious 8 Ball says the future is murky.
Let’s hope we give the organization and the players a weighted evaluation over the off season.
Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10
by Sandberg's evil twin on Oct 5, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
For the season I'd give Hendry a B-
Sure he painted himself into a corner, but none of the other “students” are being graded on their cummaltive work for their career. He turned Bradley into money and a useful SP, was able to dump Theriot, and signed Byrd on the cheap. He erred in signing Grabow and played Russian Roulet with the bullpen, hoping someone would step up, and lost big time. That he couldn’t deal for any bullpen help was a big disappointment, but maybe teams were asking too much.
True he turned an 82 win team into a 75 win one, but with the exception of Grabow, all the moves Hendry made were for the positive, including the hiring of Quade. And I’m thinking of bumping him to a B just for passing on Harden and Kiki Calero.
"I'd rather hit home runs you don't have to run as hard." -- Dave Kingman
by BucknerKongCardenal on Oct 5, 2010 10:27 PM CDT reply actions
I wish...
…I had you giving me grades when I was in school!
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
He'd haven gotten an easy A
Simply for trading Bradley alone.
I know Hendry signed the guy, but I’m looking soley at October ’09 to October ’10.
"I'd rather hit home runs you don't have to run as hard." -- Dave Kingman
by BucknerKongCardenal on Oct 6, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Passing on Harden wasn't a tough decision
His velocity was way down at the end of 2009, and he couldn’t miss bats to save his life. That was way too much money for a fragile fireballer who was losing the fire.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Holy mackerel.
If Hendry is above average, what would you consider “average”?
5th place with a $145M payroll, and not one single elite bat?
I’d give Hendry a D, and tell him to be thankful that he’s coming back at all. He would have received an F- for the 2008-2009 offseason.
MLBMilestone.com - following the numbers to Cooperstown
by D98 on Oct 6, 2010 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Strictly looking at this single season
Hendry has done a decent job. Good acquisitions, good sales.
However the way he let Piniella waste most of the season was annoying.
it was pretty clear even before the ASB that Lou wouldn’t be able to turn the team around, you can’t just let that slide and wait for next year.
by DamageControlFreak on Oct 6, 2010 7:44 AM CDT reply actions
you perplex me Al
In your praise of Castro you cite p/o his error count is getting to balls Theriot couldn’t, speaking to how bad a fielder is Ryan Theriot.
Then when defending Soriano – wondering why so many of us rip on him – you give him a pass on his fielding in the “balls he could get to” comment. That’s total bullshit. He sucks in the OF, pure and simple; the money only magnifies all what’s wrong with the Cubs.
Can’t have it both ways. An $18M a year player has to get to more balls in the OF. A BA of .258 & OPS of .818 doesn’t put the fear of God in opposing pitchers either. Your 2nd statement on Soriano is an indictment of Hendry. That contract albatross is likely a 1st order affect in not being able to re-sign Ted Lilly or any other $10M-$11M pitcher.
It’s so much more than just the money he’s getting. It’s the money that can’t be spent elsewhere; huge issue.
Just win the next game...!
The Cubs have the money to spend elsewhere, they'll choose not to do it.
Soriano had one of his best 2 seasons as a Cub, deal with it. He doesn’t get to a lot of balls, but guess what, most LF’s don’t either because they’re left fielders!
Why do people think resigning Ted Lilly (for $10-11M/yr nonetheless) will make this team better next season? MOVE ON.
"You've got to get your damn shirts rolled up and go out and kick somebody's ass. That's what you've got to do. Period." -- Lou Piniella
cashner and the young arms
Cashner’s slider and changeup showed fairly well in the bigs. He didn’t use it that much (particularly the change), but his issues often came off his fastball.
The Cubs aren’t likely to DFA that many young arms. A few of them … sure, but a few of those arms will sneak through. I still like Marcos Mateo’s chances to come back. The club needs guys that have swing and miss ability out of the pen. Not enough of those guys right now, and he has that stuff, along with showing decent control.
Mateo gave up six home runs in 21.2 innings
That’s way too many for a “swing and miss” pitcher.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Its more like Bob Howry.
"You've got to get your damn shirts rolled up and go out and kick somebody's ass. That's what you've got to do. Period." -- Lou Piniella
I had a hard time watching
when Mateo was on the mound – he made me cringe…
Berg… DITTO
Stevens…DITTO
Diamond…DITTO
Atkins…DITTO
Howry…DITTO
Chris"I'm a chick" tina
Mateo
The Cubs gave him a longer look than the other arms. Unless something fundamentally changed about Mateo, I’m willing to look at it as a small sample size for now. He wasn’t a guy prone to the long ball in the minors.
Is he “on the line”? Perhaps. At midseason, I made a post that I wanted him off the 40, but he had a solid enough run for me to want him back. There aren’t many guys who have a plus slider to go with a mid-90’s fastball. A bit more consistency on the fastball, and he would’ve been that much better. A rocky August had the Cubs disappointed, but he settled down and had a decent-solid finish.
The Cubs simply aren’t going to DFA all the arms that struggled, particularly when they have options left. A few, sure. If they can trade them as parts to a deal, perhaps. Some of them are going to be back, and Mateo would be an excellent 6th/7th inning righty to gamble on for next year.
Grades are accurate
for the most part, but I would give Lou a giant “F”. His sleepwalking through the season did more to hurt this club than anything else!
by cubfaninplattsburgh on Oct 6, 2010 11:52 AM CDT reply actions
Actually, Al
If, by chance, the World Series needs to go into a Game 7, the NL team may not want to thank Marlon Byrd. Statistically, the home team ends up losing the world series (called the home choke, by some). for more information try to look up “Paradoxical effects of supportive audiences on performance under pressure: The home field disadvantage in sports championships.” by Baumeister, R F & Steinhilber, A, 1984. Home Team has the advantage in the early games of the series, but in the later games, they tend to drop off. If you can’t find the article, I could email it to anyone interested (my college gave me access to it).
Huh.
OK, but since 1995 — the wild card era — there have been nine seven-game postseason MLB series that have gone the full length.
Home teams have won five of the nine. I didn’t look up five-game division series, feel free.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Hmm.
I wonder what has changed that trend. I’m curious to also see how the wild card has fared. When I get the time, I’ll look into it. Don’t have the time right now

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