Derek Jeter Is Out Of His Mind
$150 million for six years? NY Daily News' Bill Madden breaks it down. Jeter may wind up somewhere else, and it'll be his own fault.
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jeters personal motto: winning is the only thing that matters, as long as im making $15 mill more than im worth
He's my Hossa
HO-HO-HO-HO-HOSSA
Jeter
sure thinks a lot of himself that he feels he’s worth all that. Give me a break, he’s only an average SS and is declining at age 36!
??????
Derek Jeter is AMAZING!
"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
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by Doggie Stalker on Nov 26, 2010 5:48 PM CST up reply actions
especially this year!
He's my Hossa
HO-HO-HO-HO-HOSSA
by jesus christos on Nov 26, 2010 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
wow, this is becoming a common theme with MLB
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He wasn't worth that much in his prime.
He wants A-Rod coin? Then he needs to put up A-Rod numbers. Unless being Captain is worth $20M a year, he’s worth $5M at the most.
"I don't care who the manager is OR who they sign in the off-season...I just want a frickin' World Series winner" - Easy Ed
He is greedy...
…but should we be surprised that Jeter is trying to get as much as possible from the Yanks? I don’t think he is even worth 15 million a year anymore, but he’ll still end up getting more than that from the Yanks. The only teams i could picture giving Jeter that much, or more, is a team who won’t do anything next year… but want a star to use to try and sale tickets. I don’t picture any winning team wanting to overpay for Jeter. Signing him at more than 15 million a year would hurt any team with the exception of the Yanks. Jeter isn’t worth this much… and teams just dont have 15 million to blow.
Many may disagree, but I still believe Jeter is the most over-rated ball player in the game today. Off the top of my head, i am wondering if he might be the most over-rated since Ozzie Smith retired.
I don't know what Jeter is trying to prove
Considering the Yankees made him the face of the franchise. I’m not blaming Jeter completely though because we’ve seen Yankees pay ridiculous contracts in the past. I just find it interesting that management is drawing the line with Jeter of all people.
What does he have to lose by making a ridiculous demand?
He eventually will work down to some slightly less-ridiculous numbers while, at the same time, keeping himself in good standing with the union.
"Elder White! Look at the talent on those Cubs!" Harry Caray, KMOX Radio, 4/22/62
"And you have to wonder – What's the matter with Broglio?" Harry, KMOX, 5/24/64
What does he have to lose? A lot of money.
If he keeps being this unreasonable, he’s going to end up finally ticking them off and then he’ll have to play for a lot less someplace else.
No one except the Yankees would have paid him $22 million for the stats that he put up. You can’t come off the worst season of your career and then ask for close to A-Rod money and years, especially when you’re 36 years old.
The Yankees have been generous to even offer him $15 million a year, which no one else in their right mind will give him. That’s how to lose your GM job. They’re smart to tell him good luck in finding a better deal anywhere else. Now he and his agent will try to get some other teams involved while faking interest in playing for them in an effort to drive up the salary. Look, the Red Sox are looking to trade Marco Scutaro and they’re not even interested.
I hope that all of the other GM’s don’t even answer their phones when his agent calls, and that the Yankees eventually either lower their offer or take it off the table altogether.
Of course the Yankees offer is much more than reasonable.
Along with that, Jeter knows his many endorsement deals are tied-in to playing for the Yankees. He likely has no intention of leaving New York, and that’s why I believe his current negotiating stance is mostly a favor to the union.
"Elder White! Look at the talent on those Cubs!" Harry Caray, KMOX Radio, 4/22/62
"And you have to wonder – What's the matter with Broglio?" Harry, KMOX, 5/24/64
my name is not Bob, it's Grinch.
I didn’t say for all of the GMs to get together and not answer their phones, I just said that I hope they don’t answer their phones. That’s not collusion.
Only if they all agreed beforehand not to answer their phones
But if 29 GMs (or 30 if you include Cashman) come to the same conclusion via independent thought, that’s not collusion – that’s probably just common sense.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Jeter should take the Yankees for every damn penny he can
They would have been nothing without him.
Make no mistake. The Red Sox will snap him up just to prove they can.
Moneyball is great, but you don’t dick around with the franchise.
"It's all in the game, yo"
Talk about an overstatement
The Yanks wold have been nothing without him? He has been a key cog for the last decade, but to say that they’d be nothing without him is quite the extreme.
On the other hand, its much easier to say that Jeter would be nothing without the Yanks. If he didn’t have the NY spotlight along with the Yanks supporting cast, he would not be the player he is today. Had he played his career anywhere outside NY, Boston and Chicago, he’d certainly have a reputation as a top line player, however the Jeter mystique would be gone.
Jeter should be thankful for the 3yr-45mil offer.
No one else in baseball will (most can’t) match that for a 36 year old SS with declining skills. Really with his defense sliding, I doubt another team offers him 2yr/30 mil.
That he has meant so much to the Yankees shouldn’t mean anything…he was already paid very well for those years.
"I'd rather hit home runs you don't have to run as hard." -- Dave Kingman
by BucknerKongCardenal on Nov 26, 2010 5:17 PM CST reply actions
Future Owner?
I read a piece on Jeter around mid-season, predicting the troubles the two sides would have getting together. I’m pretty sure somewhere in that piece it mentioned that Jeter aspires for future ownership in Major League Baseball, so he’ll be trying to milk the Yankees for every last cent he can, to help make his dream come true.
I could have been huffing glue, but I’m pretty sure I read that. Can’t picture him in another uniform, that’s for sure. His agent is saying that demand isn’t true, BTW.
Scott Bora$ is satan.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on Nov 26, 2010 6:53 PM CST reply actions
getting jeter would only be a small upgrade defensively over betancourt
He's my Hossa
HO-HO-HO-HO-HOSSA
by jesus christos on Nov 27, 2010 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
these
players live in a fantasy world. i wont make 15 mill in my life. this is the one aspect of the game i hate. hearing.about their salaries constantly.
worse is when they complain that they are under paid
and talk about “how can i feed my family” so to speak.
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Me: Q: I can run but not walk. Wherever I go, thought follows close behind. What am I?
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it's not about the money, it's about respect.
sorry, couldn’t find the sarcasm font.
"Enough foreplay- let's get crackin'"- Fred Garvin
I love the Yankees stance at this point...
“you think you can get more? We certainly understand. Go test the market. And if you can’t get 3/45, then come back and we can talk.”
Jeter is being an idiot, and has to be losing fans by the day.
Well....
Jeter is being an idiot, and has to be losing fans by the day.
You are forgetting that Americans have a short memory. Once Jeter re-signs with the Yankees (and he eventually will for some amount), the majority of Yankee fans will forget that he was perceived by the NY media as “greedy”.
Come on Lisa, I'm trying to impress people here. You don't win friends with salad. ~ Homer J. Simpson
by TheBeerBaron on Nov 27, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
Don't be so sure.
A-Rod was detested by Yankee fans for that reason until he finally helped them win a World Series.
Jeter is beloved by Yankee fans. If he is perceived as greedy, they could turn on him.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
And get two single-A pitchers with 7.00 ERAs "with promise."
We’ll probably even throw in A-Ram’s salary for next year as well! That’s just the kind of guys the Cubs are!
Jeter may be nuts, but ....
Sorry I’m late to this discussion; however, the Jeter situation is different than any that has come before it. Perhaps, there might be some comparison with Michael Jordan, but that’s about it as far as I can fathom. It’s not about Jeter’s play on the field that’s driving the contract dollars.
If there is any cache to “Yankee Pride”, and if there’s any money made by the concept of “Yankee Tradition”, there is no better example of that than Jeter. The Yankees are the ones that made him a “Single Digit” Yankee. They did that precisely because they thought he could be the next Yankee HoFer.
If the Yankees can market “Yankee Tradition” and I think it’s pretty obvious that they can and do (the only franchise worth more than them is Man U), then how can we quite quantify what Jeter means to the current and future value of the franchise? There is no player worth more to value of the Yankee franchise than Jeter – not A-Rod, not Tex, not CC. Of course, on the field, he’s not as valuable as those guys, but that is not what’s driving the contract dollars. Sure, 6/$150 is (probably) an over-value, but I’m also certain that 3/$45 is close to an insult in regards to what he brings back.
I wrote that Jordan could be close, but before Jordan, there was no “Bulls Tradition”. It’s not an apples to apples comparison.
by jerry morales rules on Nov 27, 2010 2:49 PM CST reply actions
He's selling his name/brand
rather than his play at this point in his career. Still, it’s complete insanity and I’d let him walk if I were Cashman.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
The agent is denying the report
it was in the NY Post after all.
But have fun up on Mt. Judgey Judge
"It's all in the game, yo"
correct, all jeter wants is 3-4 years $23-24mill per year
wait, thats not helping
He's my Hossa
HO-HO-HO-HO-HOSSA
by jesus christos on Nov 27, 2010 5:10 PM CST up reply actions
Good thing it wasn't on sports talk radio, natch...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Just Jeter and the Yanks
getting people other than their fans to talk about them in the offseason….nothing to see here, just an agent doing his job
Madden is doing a paid hit piece for the Yanks
I’m always amazed at how outraged people get over athlete salaries.
No one cares. Shut up. You don’t matter.
"It's all in the game, yo"
Rob Neyer on why Jeter is wrong.
I hope the Yankees continue to hold fast. If they do, Jeter elther accepts the offer or plays for the Pirates, maybe.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
You know, Jeter's agent has denied the 6 yr $150M starting position that Madden offered up.
Madden provided nothing more than “sources close to the Jeter/Close camp” while the agent involved, Close, has come out and publicly stated “The recently rumored terms of our contract proposal are simply inaccurate.”
Maybe you could change the title of this fanshot?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
No, I'm leaving it.
It was based on that report. The reported offer to Jeter was pretty fair based on his current level of production compared to other shortstops.
They could let it just go to arb. I’d bet the Yankees would win.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
you see Al, this is why people get so frustrated with you - or at least I do.
you’re perfectly willing to post a somewhat sensationalizing headline (of your own making) up there even though it was based on a report that included unconfirmed information. And you’re perfectly willing to leave it up there even after the original allegations have been refuted and publicly denied by parties involved.
Yet in previous posts you’ve lambasted sports talk radio because they had the temerity to quote a public figure. No unfounded allegations were involved, just reporting on a what a public figure was saying. Heck, they even did their due diligence and reached out to others involved asking for rebuttal. Didn’t matter. They’re sports talk radio so everything they do is suspect.
It’s just very frustrating when you argue both sides of the fence depending on which side you happen to be on. And yes, I know you’re going to say “different situations”. Well, yeah – every situation is going to be different when you get right down to it. You just have this way of being conveniently inconsistent when it suits your position.
btw, I don’t think the Yankees offered Jeter arbitration. And even if they had, isn’t there some rule that you can’t offer less than 80% of the previous year’s salary? Jeter made $21M last year so I think the least the Yankees could offer him in arb would be $16.8M.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
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