2011 Draft: It's early but.....
I know it's early to be thinking about the 2011 draft but might as well take a look at some guys that might be available for us next year. Now obviously players stocks will change from now till the draft but I figured it might be fun to look at some players that could/should be on the Cubs radar. Last year I did my draft work on Wrigley Bound but since the site seems to be defunct so I'll do some tracking of players over here. This is just a quick look while I compile more scouting reports as we move closer to draft day. We have the 9th pick in a very deep crop and hopefully still have a fairly early 2nd rounder depending on what we do in FA.
The big 3 this year of 3B Anthony Rendon, LHP Matt Purke, and RHP Garrit Cole will almost surely not be available at 9 for us but we should still get a high level talent. The scouting reports are short because I'm still sifting through contridicting reports from numerous sites so I'll just give the highlights. This is just a short list...more to come.
Hitters:
OF. George Springer - UConn - Probably another player who will got before 9 but he has plus power and solid tools across the board. Springer offers a ton of potential and currently the 2nd best college bat in this years crop. Springer IF available would offer something the system needs..power hitting corner OF (though he is currently playing CF).
3B/OF. Travis Harrison - Calf. H.S. - Best prep power bat and good athletism. Again something the system could use.
OF. Jackie Bradley Jr. - S. Carolina - This may very well be the Cubs pick. A safe college bat this switch hitting CF has no plus tools but a well rounded package. Had some wrist issues last year and I have heard he may add some power. Could be something like BJax.
OF. Bubba Starling - Kansas H.S. - Ridiculously talented athlete is commited to Nebraska to play QB. This is someone who is gonna be volitlile considering his 2 sports status and probable signability concerns. Could go as early as 4 or might fall similar to Austin Wilson in '10. Can pitch and has great bat speed. A very intriguing prospect.
Pitchers:
RHP. Sonny Gray - Vanderbilt - Smallish at 6'0 185 and the Cubs have shown they are not afraid of small RHP. Has frontline stuff w/ low 90's Fb that can reach 95, and a nasty low to mid 80s slider. A good athlete and student who plays QB. This is a guy I like.
RHP Taylor Jungmann - Texas - 6'6 and wiry @ 195 punds has a good FB that sits in the low 90's that can touch 96. Potential plus slider and average CB w/ a current promising CU that could be above average. This is another safe play the Cubs may explore. While not considered a potential ace he is easily as safe as a #3 you could ask for with a ceiling of a #2.
LHP Daniel Norris - Tenn. H.S. - This is someone who would fill a big need if we go pitcher...a power lefty. 91-95 FB, above average to plus CB and a suprisingly developed CU. Needs some polish but could be a real stud when all is said and done.
RHP Archie Bradley - Oak. H.S. - Mid 90s FB w/ a plus curve. Good athlete. I really like this kids upside.
So here's 8 guys we should be aware of. If the Cubs go safe w/ Jungmann or Bradley I wouldn't be that surprised and maybe prudent but we really need to spend money later in the draft like Philly/Bos/Pit did in 2010. I don't mind going conservitive w/ our 1st pick as long as Ricketts sticks to what he has said and spends money on the draft. We may not break the bank on our #1 but in such a deep draft we should be able to draft some guys later w/ signability concerns who could pay big dividends and in turn give us what we lack...true A.S. caliber talent. I will continue to post little pieces on guys as we move along. Hopefully this is something the community is interested in.
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Norris’ ceiling? A power lefty with potential ace stuff would be a very nice piece to get at #9 if available. Is Norris a potential ace? Or more of a 2/3 type starter?
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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 6:31 PM CST reply actions
Norris
Yeah he has ace potential everything you want from a lefty big FB, power curve, to go w/ his CU. And @ 6’3 180 could fill out and add a tick or two to his FB.
http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-cubs-wrigley-bound/
Sounds like he
is the type of guy who might not be around at 9 though? I know it’s early but big hard throwing lefties with a couple of plus pitches aren’t easy to find.
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by Section 312 on Dec 1, 2010 6:05 PM CST up reply actions
Anthony Rendon
would’ve really beeen a nice consolation prize for the lost season. We really have nobody anywhere near close to take over for Aramis at third.
Any other college 3B rated highly? I know you don’t draft for need in baseball, but if it was close and one guy was a 3B I’d have to lean towards that.
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Well I think it depends on Vitters.
If he’s hitting well in AA come June, he could be back on track as 3b of the future. If he struggles again though, they could very well lean that way come draft time I would guess
3B. Harold Martinez
kid from miami was highly touted as a prep went in the 19th rd. to the rangers in ‘08 but hasn’t really lived up to expectations. At this point he’d be a real reach for us at 9 but you know if he had a big season could move up the charts.
http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-cubs-wrigley-bound/
Should read 18th rd.
http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-cubs-wrigley-bound/
RHP Taylor Jungmann - Texas
I am not a scout or an expert on the minors or college players, but have seen this kid pitch and he has looked good.
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I'd be really nice to get a big impact power bat or 2 in the draft
Any potential darkhorse 5th round projected Division 4 pitchers that might suprise us at pick 9?
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Matt Purke is at the top of my wish list, but in reality he shouldn’t be left by the 9th pick. Daniel Norris is the guy the Wilken should be setting his sights on. A powe lefty is exactly what this system needs. The fact that he is a power lefty with a plus CU makes me real excited. Those guys usually turn out pretty good. After him we should be stocking up on power bats from rounds 2-10 and hope one of them pans out. We are desprately lacking power but I still believe you draft ace caliber arms in the first round if you have the oppurtunity. All in all a really stocked draft class and I can’t wait until draft day.
by renocubfan on Nov 30, 2010 10:33 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Power lefty H.S. pitchers usually turn out pretty good?
For who? Who was the last power lefty that turned out good for the Cubs?
Just remember Mark Pawelek when taking a kid like this.
But since the Cubs have a decent amount of good young pitchers right now, why not roll the dice on a HS lefty?
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Mark Pawelek
Had serious arm problems from the day he signed with the clubs. Also he wasn’t exactly a power pitcher with an advanced change. Lefties that can throw hard AND have an advanced feel for a change are hard to find. ESPECIALLY at the HS level.
by renocubfan on Dec 1, 2010 11:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well, he threw 91-93,
and yes he did have arm problems after signing with the Cubs, but that happens with young pitchers sometimes.
I’m just using him as an example that these types of picks are not a sure thing, not even close, and have not traditionally worked out, at least for the Cubs.
But, I really don’t have a problem with this pick, the Cubs lack LH SPs in the minors, and have enough pitching talent in the higher levels to take a risk like this.
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Are you serious?
just because Pawlek didn’t pan out we should NEVER pick a H.S. lefty? Let’s see Joe Saunders, Scott Kazmir, Cole Hamels, Jon Lester to name just a few turned out decent. Oh yeah that’s just from the 2002 drafts first 2 rounds. Did some some LHP bust outta that draft? Hell yes. But your reasoning is ridiculous.
http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-cubs-wrigley-bound/
Not really,
To quote reno: “The fact that he is a power lefty with a plus CU makes me real excited. Those guys usually turn out pretty good.”
You named 3 examples, none of which the Cubs drafted. I asked you to name the last power lefty the Cubs drafted that worked out, you couldn’t do it.
On principle, drafting a HS LHP is a gamble, more so than taking a college pitcher.
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And the Cubs dont historically bank on LHP's
I think they should buck the trend here. So of course i cant look give you an example of the last successful LHP because they typically don’t draft them. You answered your own question. But if you look at the majority of successful MLB LHP, you will notice that they have a nasty CU. Santana, ,Liriano, Lester to name a few. Not to mention Pawalek was taken out of Utah, where the competition isn’t exactly the toughest in the HS baseball world.
by renocubfan on Dec 2, 2010 1:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Not a fair criterion - no one the Cubs drafts turns out very good.
Seems that almost all of our homegrown talent comes from somewhere other than the June draft.
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by D98 on Dec 4, 2010 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
And...
I never said anywhere that the Cubs should NEVER take a HS LHP.
I specifically said: “But since the Cubs have a decent amount of good young pitchers right now, why not roll the dice on a HS lefty?”
Chillax…Their unlikely to draft him anyways.
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LMAO
chillax………hahahahahahaahah….lame. They may be unlikely to draft him sure wilken prefers college guys I was just making ppl aware of what potentially cold be there especially considering he would fill a real need for the system.
http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-cubs-wrigley-bound/
Matt Barnes
RHP from UConn is a guy I meant to profile also. Has been moving up the charts mid to upper 90s FB good CB but needs to work on his CU and has been refining his command.
http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-cubs-wrigley-bound/
Based on his name alone...
…the clear choice is Bubba Starling. Runner-up: Sonny Gray.
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Sonny Gray will probably be the guy
Like it or not, Wilken has ‘his guys’. Gray is one of them.
I've heard this...
before and each time I think there’s some major assumptions being made.
I do think our pick will be in the college ranks…Crapload of upside there…which is different because for a long time college guys’ perceived upside was never as high as HS guys.
I agree
Although the draft is 7 months away, and a lot can happen, Gray would have to be the favorite for the pick if he is there. I wouldn’t be upset in the least if he was the pick, either. I might slightly prefer a power bat with good upside, since our program is very thin on them, but a potential top of the rotation starter is nice to bring in as well. Not to mention that Wilken has been very solid at finding quality arms in the later rounds: Carpenter (3rd), Jackson (9th), McNutt (32nd), Kurcz (10th), Wells (7th), etc, but hasn’t found many position player gems back there at all.
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Please pick a guy who can hit the baseball.
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