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Todd Ricketts: Undercover Boss

Todd Ricketts shows off one of the "Mark Dawson" ID badges he had while working various jobs at Wrigley Field. Photo by Al Yellon

Many of you watched the CBS series "Undercover Boss" last night that featured Tom Ricketts' brother Todd working several jobs at Wrigley Field. This fanshot started the discussion last night; I'm continuing it here because the Cubs invited about 250 Wrigley Field employees and their families to a viewing party at Harry Caray's on Sheffield last night.

If you didn't see the show, Todd moved out of his suburban home and into a barely-furnished space on Sheffield across from the ballpark for several days. CBS approached the Cubs about doing this particular episode, and apparently had enough material that they considered making this a two-hour show. Todd worked cleaning bathrooms, vending hot dogs, on the ground crew, parking cars and in the scoreboard. (He said that raising the "W" flag was the highlight of his time, and cleaning the bathrooms was the most difficult and demanding task.) You'll see parts of Wrigley Field you've never seen before.

Naturally, this being a reality show, there had to be a happy ending. Todd Ricketts did something nice for each of the four men he worked with, and because this is a prime-time TV show, it was a bit melodramatic.

But one thing I found from watching the reactions to the show of the people who work for the Cubs who were at this party is the complete dedication that each one of them has for their work, and although none of the baseball people were there, there's no doubt in my mind that all of them are working toward the singular goal of winning the World Series. If you think Tom Ricketts and his family aren't dedicated to that, too, think again. It's not easy to rebuild a baseball team on the field, as we have learned. But there are other things they have done to improve the organization and the ballpark, and that's continuing this offseason. Todd Ricketts said during the show that they want this to be like a family business and that everyone who works there should feel like family. They've already started a process to take suggestions from employees, something Tribune Co. never did.

I have no doubt that the Ricketts will bring us a winner.

If you missed the episode you can watch it here (annoying commercials included).

After the jump, a photo of all of the "Mark Dawson" ID badges that Todd Ricketts used during his time working at Wrigley Field.

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Photo by Al Yellon

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So that means we’re getting Cliff Lee?

Cubs fan from Minnesota

by Shawon-o-Meter12 on Nov 8, 2010 8:07 AM CST reply actions  

I laughed.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Nov 8, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I cried.

"I'd rather hit home runs you don't have to run as hard." -- Dave Kingman

by BucknerKongCardenal on Nov 8, 2010 9:58 PM CST up reply actions  

How many of the jobs that Todd did could you do better right off the bat?

You have someone that has fine tuned his daily toils for decades vs. someone that has never used a floor squeegee in his life, or hawked red hots at a sporting event, how fast do you expect him to be at the level that they expect?

As far as his picnic comment, so what? That’s what 90% of Cub game attendees feel anyway, right? Until people start staying home when the team sucks, it will always be a picnic out there. Last season, there was attendance falloff at the end, and the owners have noticed that. Give them a chance to do what they think is best. This year was year one, let’s see how year two progresses.

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Nov 8, 2010 8:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Selling Hot dogs and directing cars is not that hard

however the picnic comment really bothered me. It seems to be a family attitude that Wrigley is just a place to sit in sun & eat and people will pay tons for that and you don’t have to really worry about the team on the field. As witnessed by last year and what is already happening this year with the convention tickets that is not true.

You are correct that judging them in one year is not fair, but in general I have not liked what I have seen. Most people worry that Jim Hendry has too much influence, I worry that Crane Kenney does. As always happy to be dead wrong .

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Nov 8, 2010 9:11 AM CST up reply actions  

i'm

with you. I want, really want to believe we finally have an owner who cares and will do what it takes to get multiple championships in here. But so far I haven’t seen any sign of it.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

by CalCalender on Nov 8, 2010 9:13 AM CST up reply actions  

You're looking for instant gratification that cannot come.

Fixing bathrooms and sprucing up a ballpark is (relatively) easy.

Fixing a baseball operation cannot be done overnight. I do think they’re headed in the right direction and are committed to winning.

What “signs” are you looking for? Be specific.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 8, 2010 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

There

isn’t anything “instant” about what I’m asking for. They have to spend money to win Al and all they have done is slash it.

We are a big market team. We pay out the @$$ for tickets. There is no reason we shouldn’t be talking about Cliff Lee or Adam Dunn. Instead its Nick Johnson or maybe Kerry Wood.

The Ricketts are doing a great job of lowering expectations.

by CalCalender on Nov 8, 2010 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

You're looking at things in a vacuum.

The Cubs spend plenty of money. Even if they “trim” the payroll to $135M, they’ll have a top 5 payroll.

We are a big market team. We pay out the @$$ for tickets. There is no reason we shouldn’t be talking about Cliff Lee or Adam Dunn. Instead its Nick Johnson or maybe Kerry Wood.

First, this is all rumor stuff at this point. Second, see the “Nick Johnson” thread for a payroll breakdown. The Cubs just have too much money clogged up (still) in underperforming players to be able to spend big.

If you’re upset by ticket prices… don’t go.

I am becoming a little leery of the Ricketts’ decision making, but since they’ve been on the job one year… they deserve a little rope.

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Nov 8, 2010 9:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Why

do we all buy into the idea that because we have some bad contracts we cannot sign anymore free agents? Lots of teams have bad contracts. The Yankees paid Jeter over 20 million this year and he was putrid. Same with Boston.

We are a large market team. We have a huge fanbase. The Ricketts charge us a premium to go to games. There is NO reason we can’t have a higher payroll than 140 million.

by CalCalender on Nov 8, 2010 9:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Neither one of

us has the balance sheet but what is know is this

1. The Cubs are in the top part of the league in attendance.
2. They charge more than anybody for tickets
3. They have a huge market

That should = more $ than most other teams

by CalCalender on Nov 8, 2010 9:41 AM CST up reply actions  

OK... and...

The Cubs spent more on their payroll in 2010 than anyone but NYY or BOS (and more than anyone else in the NL).

And a drop to ~$135M would still be a top 5 payroll with only the Phillies (and maybe the Mets if they go nuts this off season) above us in the NL.

I’d say that safely fits the definition of spending more money than MOST other teams.

BTW… the point should really be to win the division. And the Cubs spent more than $50M more than the Cards and more than twice as much as the Reds last year.

It is not the amount of money being spent that is the issue… it is how wisely it is being spent.

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Nov 8, 2010 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

he

inherited that payroll. He had nothing to do with it.

by CalCalender on Nov 8, 2010 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

and further

there seems to be this idea that teams who go young just automatically build a cheap, super talented roster after a few years. The reality is that its a crapshoot as well. The Royals are perpetually rebuilding. So are alot of other small- mid market teams.

Again, its all about expectations. The Cubs are not a small market team and they shouldn’t spend or act like one. They should be the Yankees of the NL Central because they make more $ than the other teams.

by CalCalender on Nov 8, 2010 9:49 AM CST up reply actions  

What in the world are you talking about?

How is having a top 5 payroll “acting like a small market team”???

The Cubs ARE the Yankees of the NL Central… they easily outspend every divisional opponent.

Your posts are getting more confusing… and leaning toward unjustified and unsupported angst.

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Nov 8, 2010 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

I think he is alluding to alot of the posters who are

Advocating that we stop spending money and make this a self contained program.

I would be extremely upset if we start seeing that kind of program going forward. Though I have faith that the Ricketts will choose to win, over choosing to pinch pennies.

" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "

by aaronb on Nov 8, 2010 11:36 AM CST up reply actions  

There are two parts to the payroll issue

While it’s true that our payroll is among the highest, everyone with a sense of reality understands that committed dollars are being misspent on a number of players. Teams like the Yanks have been willing to eat bad salary and move on. That is not the case with the Cubs.

So next year we’ll hear the usual comments that guys like Johnson and are just what we need to make us a winner. This year we were assured the new guys made the clubhouse much improved and almost guaranteed us a playoff team. Until we make changes at the top and the owners are willing to fix their mistakes, we have a long journey to becoming a dominant team in the central although we have a dominant payroll.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Nov 9, 2010 6:03 AM CST up reply actions  

What?

Granted it is too early to make a definitive statement about the new ownership in this matter, but in recent memory the Cubs have “eaten”…

Most of D Lee’s remaining contract in order to get prospects.

2.5M for Lilly (see Cot’s).

1M for Miles.

A bunch for Luis Vizcaino, who was the offshoot of making Marquis’ contract go away.

Despite getting surprising production from Silva, trading MB was purely “eating a contract”… nothing was expected of Silva.

Those are just the ones that come quickly to mind.

But further, this idea that the Cubs should eat contracts like the Yankees do is silly. The Yankees’ payroll was over 33% more than the Cubs. 33%!!!!

The Cubs have a lot of money to play with, but the pile isn’t endless, unlike NYY.

I’m well aware that the Cubs need to spend more wisely… but that’s not the argument CC was making.

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Nov 9, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

So?

How exactly does that impact anything I typed?

You posted that the Cubs should spend more than most other teams. They have… and they will.

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Nov 8, 2010 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I think

she is looking for the 1.50 bleacher tickets to come back

See the Cubs 2011 schedule at http://cubsbythenumbers.com/sched2011.html
Also see what old Cubs Scorecards looked like at http://cubsbythenumbers.com/scorecards.html

by kaseyi on Nov 8, 2010 9:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Oops...fast finger syndrom

(She should be he)

See the Cubs 2011 schedule at http://cubsbythenumbers.com/sched2011.html
Also see what old Cubs Scorecards looked like at http://cubsbythenumbers.com/scorecards.html

by kaseyi on Nov 8, 2010 9:25 AM CST up reply actions  

1.50

isn’t anywhere close to 80.

Raise ticket prices while slashing payroll costs………….thats a proven blueprint to maximize profits not build a winning baseball team.

by CalCalender on Nov 8, 2010 9:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Only if attendance is a fixed quantity.

The Cubs budgeted (i.e., payroll, concessions, etc.) for 2010 assuming near sellouts most of the season. When crowds fell off dramatically, revenue didn’t meet expectations.

I don’t know enough about their books to know whether the Cubs made a lot or a little money… or even just broke even or even lost a little. But I’d certainly bet a Big Gulp that they didn’t meet 2010 expected revenues.

So, as any business would, they tamper down costs the next year to be more inline with revenue projections.

Remember, not all ticket prices were affected… though the $80 bleacher seats is a more than head scratching move.

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Nov 8, 2010 9:31 AM CST up reply actions  

It is a foolish business model to allow

one year’s revenue income drop to cause management to drive future expectations for success. If Cub fans don’t see efforts to improve the team, no amount of PR spin will put fannies in the seats. Winning solves everything. Payroll cuts aren’t the solution.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Nov 9, 2010 6:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Fixing the baseball operation...

…starts at the top, and I have seen nothing that has addressed the “top”.

I still say, Ricketts is going to have regrets he didn’t address this issue.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Nov 8, 2010 11:52 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Selling Hot dogs and directing cars is not that hard

Huh. You try it.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 8, 2010 9:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Right.

These are the kind of tasks that almost anyone can do with a short training period, and then you never get better at it. But almost no one can do it perfectly right off the bat.

These are things that I would probably get worse at as time went on, because I would be so dreadfully bored. I don’t fool myself that the people who do these jobs are somehow less bored, just more motivated.

No one should be untouchable on this roster unless his name is Eliot Ness...or Starlin Castro.

by cubzfan on Nov 8, 2010 9:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Making a living selling hot dogs and directing cars is hard.

Anyone can do it.

"All right, you ragtag bunch of misfits! You hate me, and I hate you even more. But without my beloved ringers, you're all I've got. So I want you to remember some inspiring words that someone else might have told you over the course of your lives, and go out there and win!"

by Lord Palmerston on Nov 8, 2010 2:54 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

*Anyone can do it = Anyone can physically sell them or direct them.

"All right, you ragtag bunch of misfits! You hate me, and I hate you even more. But without my beloved ringers, you're all I've got. So I want you to remember some inspiring words that someone else might have told you over the course of your lives, and go out there and win!"

by Lord Palmerston on Nov 8, 2010 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Easy to do

hard to do well.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
Nucks Misconduct chief curmudgeon and chief hunk.

by Section 312 on Nov 8, 2010 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow...

I can get you being upset about Ricketts and his selection of players, the GM or other personnel, but you worry about his brother not cleaning the bathroom fast enough, selling hot dogs or directing cars? saying he liked sitting in the bleachers in college like a picnic? my gosh…you worry about some strange things here.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Nov 8, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Christ no kidding.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Nov 8, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

UGH....Mark Dawson?!?!!?!

Worst name ever

"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
"They played like son of a guns......lord have mercy." Mike Quade

by Cubbiegoon on Nov 8, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

FYI

If you are a Cubs fan, you won’t think that name is the worst ever. As I was told by a source, Todd’s favorite Cubs are Mark Grace and Andre Dawson, hence the name Mark Dawson. Still the worst name ever?

by meagain on Nov 8, 2010 9:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't honestly get the impression Todd is a major player

I know it is supposed to be all 4 of them sharing, but I do see Tom as the main guy. Yes I was snarky about Todd, but selling hot dogs is not that hard and while it was a joke in the show dumping the last 4 and sticking his own money and denying it hardly fills one with confidence in his abilities.I sold cheese cake at Chicago Fest back in the day. I would suck at the car parking as I don’t drive.

For the bigger picture though, I am concerned. I think I have made it very clear since
last Jan that I believe the Cubs are too focused in marketing to corporate and high end folks which would not be so bad if they were not neglecting the fans that make up the bulk of sales. They will be scrambling in Jan & Feb to sell tickets, but it will be mostly too late to change pricing and focus and with a significant decrease in early ticket sales they will probably use that to explain why payroll will decline. Also I have yet to see the promised commitment to increasing the staff for player development in terms of scouting and minor league progress which I think is key.

Cubs will survive Todd’s inability to clean bathrooms, but they need the Ricketts to live up to their claims of both being fan friendly and truly committed to a winning team.

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Nov 8, 2010 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I bet those cheesecakes were freakin delicious

I really want cheesecake now

"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
"They played like son of a guns......lord have mercy." Mike Quade

by Cubbiegoon on Nov 8, 2010 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Eli's

The joke is I hate cheesecake but I could sell it.

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Nov 8, 2010 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

....I still want some cheesecake

"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
"They played like son of a guns......lord have mercy." Mike Quade

by Cubbiegoon on Nov 8, 2010 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Selling cheescake at Chicago Fest...

Almost sounds like code for something else.

Wink, wink, nudge, nudge, know what I mean?

In theory selling hot dogs, at all places a baseball game, in all cities Chicago, shouldn’t be that difficult. But I’d guess there are a lot of people who couldn’t do it very well or at all.

"I'd rather hit home runs you don't have to run as hard." -- Dave Kingman

by BucknerKongCardenal on Nov 8, 2010 10:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Who doesn’t love Eli’s cheesecake, but it doesn’t go too well with beer.

by Edelweiss on Nov 9, 2010 12:09 AM CST up reply actions  

some people just gotta hate...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Nov 8, 2010 4:39 PM CST up reply actions  

How about you

go and TRY and do those jobs for one day. I don’t think you’d find them so easy to do nor would I. Perhaps you should volunteer at one game next year with a camera following you around. Report your findings and then maybe you’d have a say in the matter.

J/K………..sort of.

by Swoosie on Nov 8, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions  

So if the party was for Cub employees and their families

How did you get to go, Al?

No one should be untouchable on this roster unless his name is Eliot Ness...or Starlin Castro.

by cubzfan on Nov 8, 2010 8:18 AM CST reply actions  

I was invited as media.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 8, 2010 8:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Available online?

Anyone know if it’s available streaming online anywhere?

Check out the Video Blog I host: WebSmart TV

by digitalbenjamin on Nov 8, 2010 8:25 AM CST reply actions  

Oddly enough, the link is posted in the original post.

Scroll up.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 8, 2010 8:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Scroll up

read the entire post.

Jeepers you are demanding.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
Nucks Misconduct chief curmudgeon and chief hunk.

by Section 312 on Nov 8, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed with dedication,

the employees all worked hard at their job and were pretty serious about doing it right. I was surprised. Also surprised that two were working on college degrees. I may not ever view the employees at Wrigley the same.

My friend and I were surprised at the long neck Old Style Todd enjoyed after a day at work. Label facing TV and all. That was hard core Cubs Fan at it’s best.

Sandberg for manager!

by mrcubsfan on Nov 8, 2010 8:53 AM CST reply actions  

or product placement 101

" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "

by aaronb on Nov 8, 2010 11:37 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Old Style is available in other markets

I live in Memphis and you can purchase it here.

" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "

by aaronb on Nov 8, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

But why would you want to? Old Style is nasty

Agreed with Aaron, just selling a product

"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck

by Musicdude10 on Nov 8, 2010 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

True story

I’ve found a small group of fellow Cubs fans since I’ve been living down here. And for the past 2 opening days. We have taken short work days, purchased a couple 30 packs of Old Style. And gotten together to watch the Cubs games.

Tough to find fellow gluttons for punishment down this way. Firmly Cardinals territory.

" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "

by aaronb on Nov 8, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Here

are some things that will bring a winner

Spending money on the team.

So far we have taken at their word the fact that we cant

A) Spend any money beyond our current payroll despite charging more for tickets than any other team

B) Even keep our payroll at its current level

C) Take at their word the fact that the Cubs will build from within despite spending 3 times less on the draft than the Pittsburgh Pirates

I want to believe the Ricketts will be a good team of owners but they haven’t given us one shred of evidence that they will.

by CalCalender on Nov 8, 2010 9:05 AM CST reply actions  

Spending money is not the only thing that brings a winner.

The World Series just concluded should be proof of that.

And there are dividends coming from the farm system right now, and will continue to be in the future.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 8, 2010 9:21 AM CST up reply actions  

FALSE!!!!

The Giants spend money. The Rangers don’t have a large payroll but they damn sure spent on the drafts that provided their young talent.

The Cubs do neither. Again Al, we spent next to nothing on this years draft. You don’t just develop players out of thin air, you pay for young raw talent like you pay for anything else.

by CalCalender on Nov 8, 2010 9:24 AM CST up reply actions  

You can't deny that young talent is coming out of the system now.

Again, you seem laser-focused on simply outspending everyone.

The Mets are a real good example of how spending alone doesn’t produce a winner.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 8, 2010 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

I just

don’t want people to fall into the idea that because we finally developed a good player like Castro that all our prospects will become Joey Votto’s or Matt Cain’s.

Prospects fail. They fail and fail again. All I want is for the Cubs to not put all their eggs into the FA or prospect basket. Mix it up. We SHOULD spend more and develop our own players. But in Rickett’s first draft we spent less. We SHOULD continue to sign top flight FA talent because we can afford to. But in Ricketts first year we are cutting payroll.

I’m not saying Tom Ricketts is a bad owner but I am saying its hard to be encourage thus far.

by CalCalender on Nov 8, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

You have to understand that the Ricketts have a ton of debt service.

Is that good? No. But it’s reality. And even with a “cut” — which may not be that big a cut — the Cubs will likely still have the highest payroll in the NL next year.

You have to spend smart. The Cubs have not always done that.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 8, 2010 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

That's an understatement.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Nov 8, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I doubt that the Cubs will have the highest payroll in the NL next year.

The Mets and Phillies aren’t going to have a whole lot of money coming off the books, and the Mets have some decent sized increases in store for Wright and Reyes.

More to the point – if the Cubs are not spending smart, why are all of the people spending this money being retained?!

MLBMilestone.com - following the numbers to Cooperstown

by D98 on Nov 12, 2010 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

2010

Wasn’t the 2010 draft one of the poorer drafts in recent years? So overpaying for slots wouldn’t be a good business decision. If in 2011 which is purportedly a one of the best crop of draftees the money spent is low ranking then we have a problem.

by KyCubsFan on Nov 8, 2010 10:49 AM CST up reply actions  

There's a difference between

overpaying for slot and using your first round pick for someone that was commonly agreed would be available in the 3rd to 4th round.

This has been what the Cubs have done a lot recently. I admire that they seem to know who they want to pick, but really, be smart about it.

by ScottT on Nov 8, 2010 4:41 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

and yeah

the Mets are a mess. Sandy has his work cut out for him.

by CalCalender on Nov 8, 2010 10:06 AM CST up reply actions  

They've got a ton of income, and a ton of cash falling off the books after 2011

Beltran, K-Rod, Castillo, Ollie Perez – they’ll have cash to spend.

(Then again, that Bay contract is going to suck for a while.)

But frankly, I’d take their income vs. payroll vs. talent base situation over ours.

MLBMilestone.com - following the numbers to Cooperstown

by D98 on Nov 12, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Your general point holds... that we could've/should've spent more on the draft, but this:
C) Take at their word the fact that the Cubs will build from within despite spending 3 times less on the draft than the Pittsburgh Pirates

…is a little misleading.

For one thing, PIT had the 2nd pick in the draft and spent $6.5M on Taillon alone (which was more than the Cubs spent period). That’s going to skew just about any “so and so team spent more than the other team” comparisons. For the record, it could’ve been “worse”… the Pirates did not sign their 6th, 7th, 8th, or 10th round picks (Cubs only failed to sign their 6th rounder among their top 16 picks).

(BTW, neither the Braves or Twins went overslot on a single draft pick this year. So are they just cheap and not trying to win?)

Of course, the Cubs also spent 4.2 times more than the Pirates on the major league roster… so I’d say that’s a fair bit more of an indicator of a desire to “bring a winner”.

Again, the general point still stands… and I was rather disappointed the Cubs didn’t spend more on the draft. But the point of comparison isn’t that fair.

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Nov 8, 2010 9:23 AM CST up reply actions  

I see your point

However keep in mind nothing was stopping the Cubs from drafting big talent @ the 15 spot this year. Instaed we drafted Hayden Simpson who is the definition of a signability pick.

The rest of our picks were all slot or under slot guys. The bottom line is this was a very, very cheaply run draft and if the Ricketts want to sell the narrative that we are “going young” then you have to spend money to get young talent to develop.

by CalCalender on Nov 8, 2010 9:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Debatable

RE: big talent… this was one of the weakest draft talent pools in years.

RE: Simpson. This has been debated and mostly debunked. As more information comes out, there were other teams with a first round grade on Simpson.

RE: Slot. Not all of our picks were under slot guys. Not at all. It is true that the Cubs were, overall, under slot for the first 10 rounds. As you can see, they were about $157K under slot. But they were $400K+ under on Simpson alone. So, mathematically, they had to be over slot on other guys in order to close that gap.

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Nov 8, 2010 9:42 AM CST up reply actions  

I think

they went slightly over for their 2nd round pick. But thats the only one I recall.

No matter how you want to slice it, the Cubs were near the bottom on both bonus & slot spending. To me, thats unacceptable especially when you are telling people that the organization is going for young talent.

When you couple that with the fact that we didn’t get any of the top Latin FA’s and are cutting payroll its not a great indicator that the Ricketts are willing to spend to improve the team.

by CalCalender on Nov 8, 2010 9:45 AM CST up reply actions  

And if these patterns continue

through this off season, into next year’s draft, and into the next international signing market… then a pattern develops.

As 2010 revenues were underperforming expectations, I think the low 2010 draft budget was fairly predictable, as is a modest cut in the 2011 budget.

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Nov 8, 2010 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

if we spend

less in 2011 than we did in 2010 then the Cubs will be drafting people from slow pitch softball leagues. Hell, they might call out Al’s name in the 10th round.

If you want to sell the whole going young approach fine. Then take 20 million out of the payroll and go run a great draft.

by CalCalender on Nov 8, 2010 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Nonsense.

The top draft spenders had a bill of around $12M.

Go through the draft list and find where the Cubs could have spent anything even remotely in the neighborhood of $15M INTELLIGENTLY.

You’re just not dealing in the reality of the draft.

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Nov 8, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I could have spent 15 million on that draft

there were plenty of HS players who could have been drafted if they had a big enough check offered to them.

I follow the draft pretty darn close every year so I do feel I know the “reality” of it.

by CalCalender on Nov 8, 2010 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

None to note.

You posted above with Al that lots of prospects fail. You also posted that you want the Cubs to spend huge in the draft and in FA (ignoring the realities of money).

Meanwhile, here you’ve posted to take $20M out of the payroll to spend on HS kids who were demanding big checks… in the weakest draft in years.

That doesn’t sound like a very wise investment.

If you’d cut the hyperbole and said something like: “if the Cubs had spent $7-8M in the draft, it would have shown a dedication to a youth movement.” Well, that’s a message that might make the same point… but be much better received as in touch with reality.

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Nov 8, 2010 10:06 AM CST up reply actions  

no

My point is this- I am of the opinion that the Cubs are a cash cow. That they make an incredible amount of money. And also that they should spend a good deal of that money on the team.

To me they should be top 5 in payroll every year. They should spend top 5 in the draft every year. By doing so you improve your chances of contending every year. Its not a 100 % guarantee that the Cubs will win but its doing your best and thats all you can ask from ownership.

Cub fans are incredibly loyal and pay alot of money to support the team. All I expect is that $ gets put to use. So far I haven’t seen it.

by CalCalender on Nov 8, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions  

My point is this- I am of the opinion that the Cubs are a cash cow. That they make an incredible amount of money.

This may be true. But you don’t know that for a fact.

I agree that the $ should be spent in a good way. You don’t have to be in the top five of payroll to win.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 8, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Look at the Yankees and Red Sox this year.

All that money didn’t buy them a World Series. The Giants won it based on pure talent.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Possibly hiking up Mount Marcy during the weekend of October 23-24. State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Nov 8, 2010 6:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Of the last ten World Series...

… seven were NOT won by the Yankees or Red Sox. What’s your point?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 9, 2010 7:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Look at your posts. You contradict yourself all over the place.

You noted above that neither of us know about the Cubs books. Surely the Cubs make a lot of money, but how much less they made in 2010 compared to what they expected to make is being way undersold.

The Cubs now ARE a top 5 team in payroll every year. So, again, your angst is misplaced.

Saying they should spend top 5 money in the draft every year is also a rather flip statement. You don’t spend money just to spend it. If the new ownership makes a habit (i.e., more than one year) of “under spending” in the draft… then they are fair game.

You know which teams spent the most on the first 10 rounds of the draft this year? Nationals, Pirates, Red Sox, Blue Jays, & Orioles. So does that mean the vaunted Yankees no longer are trying to win? What about the Phils (who, by the way, were more under slot than the Cubs and spent about 1/3 less)?

As I noted above… the Cubs don’t need to just spend more money. They already spend well more than most. They need to spend their money more wisely… and if that means a slight dip in overall expenditures, it does not mean they are “acting like a small market team”.

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Nov 8, 2010 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

and you

keep bringing up a payroll that has nothing to do with Ricketts as evidence they will spend.

He is cutting payroll. Thats just a fact. We didnt chase any top international free agents- that is also a fact. We ran a very cheap draft. That is also a fact.

 We are looking to dump contracts at every turn. If you want to believe we will continue to spend and have a good payroll go ahead. I dont share your faith.

by CalCalender on Nov 8, 2010 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

All of your concerns regarding the MLB payroll are purely speculative.

If they were looking to dump contracts at every turn, why wait until this offseason? Why not hold a garage sale during spring training of 2010.

The Ricketts family became owners over a year ago. So while they didn’t approve many of the albatross contracts, they sure could have shaped the 2010 payroll with a sharper paring knife, if they so desired.

They also did approve spending money on Marlon Byrd, John Grabow, and Xavier Nady. That’s already a history of being willing to spend.

The idea the Cubs are “looking to dump contracts at every turn” is a broad overgeneralization and not based in fact, to this point. The Cubs have made only three deals that could be loosely categorized as “salary dumps”: Bradley, Lee and Lilly. With MB, they took back a bad contract and got rid of a toxin. Lee’s time was also up… and the Cubs were widely praised for getting a good return for him. Reviews were more mixed on Lilly’s return.

The only other players the Cubs might be looking to “dump” are guys that have underperformed their contract (Fukudome, Grabow, Sori, Z). Aren’t those the guys you’re supposed to try and trade away?

Cutting payroll does appear to be a fact… but you continuously judge it in a vacuum. Your failure to consider revenue… which was surely FAR below projections for 2010 is… alarming.

Shut up Joe Morgan.

by fsuapollo on Nov 8, 2010 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

and they sent money

with Lee to get better prospects…but damn Tom for being a penny-pincher

by hansman1982 on Nov 8, 2010 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Isn't cutting MLB Payroll good for increasing Draft spending?

If the Cubs reduce their 40-man payroll (by not signing expensive FAs), then they should be able to increase their Draft budget, out of an overall budget of Baseball Operations.

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on Nov 8, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Forgot one important point...

…the most important factor in bringing a winner:

Having a strong baseball organization from the top down, that has a sound philosophy and makes good decisions.

When and if the Cubs ever have that, how much money they spend will become less important. For the Cubs, spending money in the last few years has been their life preserver and temporarily hid the warts.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Nov 8, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

On that, I will agree with you.

Clearly, Jim Hendry has been given two years to fix the problem. Yes, they could get rid of him after 2011, but both his and Mike Quade’s deal end after 2012. If things haven’t improved by then, I would say they’ll start over.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 8, 2010 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Definitely worth watching

We agree with Al. Sure, it’s slickly produced “reality” TV, but it’s an interesting look behind the scenes with some terrific portraits of the employees at Wrigley. Yes, the Ricketts Family cares about revenues and we’re not always going to agree with their decisions (and time will tell if they can build a consistent winner), but we’re impressed so far with their dedication to improving the organization at all levels and don’t understand the critics who say “they don’t care.”

by Cubs Fan Report on Nov 8, 2010 9:08 AM CST reply actions  

Of hot dogs and business ethics

SPOILER ALERT

If you haven’t watched the show, and plan to, you might not want to read this post yet.

If you have watched, you know that Todd threw away his last four hot dogs, paying for them himself. When his trainer, Rocco, confronted him, Todd lied outright and often. In the reveal at the end, he admitted he had thrown out the hot dogs, but said he had paid for them himself.

Now, it is probably true that Todd had agreed with CBS not to do anything to reveal his “boss” status during the shooting. He had to make a split-second decision: do I admit what I did, possibly leading Rocco to figure out that I’m not some out-of-work roofer, but someone posing for the cameras? Does that ruin the experience for the viewers and the workers? Or do I lie about what I did, because eventually I will tell the truth?

A few notes from a professor of management (me). First, Todd was in this situation because of his own behavior. As compared to the parking lot incident, in which one of his college roommates recognized him, and almost spilled the beans, it was entirely Todd’s decision to ditch the hot dogs. If he were really intent on maintaining the fiction, he could have continued to sell the hot dogs, and not put himself in a position to lie. Second, Todd conveyed the attitude, even at the end, that what he did was OK because he paid for the hot dogs. It’s true he didn’t cost Rocco any money, but he did lie. He did not apologize for lying. Third, Todd was playing a role. In many reality TV situations, people will do things and say things that they claim they would never do in “real life” but were willing to do because “everyone knows its a game.”

My point here is that, just as in a game, managers and employees often play certain roles. It’s OK to punch your friend’s time card because you know he works hard all the time, and if you don’t stick up for each other against management, who will? It’s OK to not greet your employees by name, because they don’t expect it from the boss, and it helps to keep some professional distance. It’s OK to fudge the truth because the other person doesn’t need to know every detail, and explaining it would take too long. If they really respected you, they would let you do your job and them do theirs, and stop being so nosy. In the end, as long as the person in the other role gets what they want (a bathroom cleaned, a paycheck), why worry about a little lie?

But let’s extend this to other situations. Suppose the boss’s lie was to a vendor, a player agent, a corporate season-ticket buyer? The boss wanted to feel in control, to “save face” when caught in telling something that wasn’t true. How would that affect the other party’s willingness to do business with that boss again? Relationships between managers and workers (even if you call them “associates” or something else) are just as important, and built on mutual respect and accurate (if not full) information.

The best thing to do when caught in a lie is to admit it. Everybody lies. That’s not a reason to pretend you never lie. It’s a reason to believe that people will forgive you if you say, “You know, what I just said wasn’t right. I was thinking that I couldn’t tell you the whole truth there, but I do want to be honest with you. It’s a little embarrassing, and I hope you understand. Here’s the real story.”

The worst interpretation is that Todd Ricketts has a tendency to shirk work, lie about it, and try to throw money at the problem to satisfy other people. The problem with that tendency is that you never really get other people on your team, willing to go the extra mile with you (let alone for you).

The best interpretation is that Todd was in an unfamiliar situation, in which he was already “living a lie” about his identity, so he felt it justified to tell one more to keep up the fiction. He gave of his own resources to be sure no one else got hurt. The lesson here is that if you maintain open, honest relationships with your co-workers, you are less likely to find yourself in a situation in which you feel compelled to lie about something specific.

Overall, I wasn’t bothered by the fact that Todd couldn’t handle a squeegee well or didn’t have the right personality to hawk concessions. I was only bothered a little by the lie about the hot dogs, given the situation. I was most bothered by the revelation that the new owners had not already started asking their employees for ideas, and that they had overlooked simple things (like the crew locker room) that could have been addressed for very little money before the season even began. The “Undercover Boss” scenario cuts out middle management on purpose. Maybe the head of maintenance, the head of concessions, the head of parking already knew of the employees’ ideas and complaints, and it just hadn’t reached the junior member of the ownership team. But the show seemed to convey that there is little “bottom-up” innovation in the Cubs’ organization. And in a day when even the guy that cleans the bathrooms has a cell phone, there is no excuse for not opening multiple lines of communication between employees and management. Being a “family business” is great: recognizing that every employee potentially has a good idea is even better.

No one should be untouchable on this roster unless his name is Eliot Ness...or Starlin Castro.

by cubzfan on Nov 8, 2010 9:35 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

I have

some more tea leaves for you to read

by CalCalender on Nov 8, 2010 9:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Jeez you worry way too much about this.

I watched the show and you write a novel because he lied after not wanting to sell some hot dogs? sheesh. What happens when some girl sleeps with another guy on the Hills…

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Nov 8, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh good lord.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Nov 8, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

+1

reccomendation to Sue…and the same should go to all of the ledge jumpers around here…

by hansman1982 on Nov 8, 2010 2:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree
And in a day when even the guy that cleans the bathrooms has a cell phone, there is no excuse for not opening multiple lines of communication between employees and management.

Come on – I could say that about every single business in America. And marriage. Technology is not communication.

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on Nov 8, 2010 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

We know you only meant good by this post bra....

"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
"They played like son of a guns......lord have mercy." Mike Quade

by Cubbiegoon on Nov 8, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Some comments

First bottom-up pathways is long lost and has precipitated executives who are clueless of what impact their decisions actually do.

Even though this was a TV show and therefore not taken seriously in anyway since it is staged and all behavior is meant to be for and edited for the sake of the audience attention and drama there are things you can take away.

One I thought it was BIG FAT PLUG for the Rickett’s family….good feel marketing…good branding.

Two, it was revealed in the entire sense that the Tribune CO simply sucked at the behind the scenes taking care of their employees and providing a productive environment.

Three, the bathroom cleaning scene reminded me how zoos clean animal pens, power hoses and simply pouring chemicals haphazardly….

Lastly some of the best companies were the ones that forced all managers young and old to work at these levels and go through training programs. Understanding that Hot Dogs are sold with a vendor’s own money or that that they use their own communication devices to do the job or have to take a break where it looks like a back store room.

The lying situation seemed contrived as a tension moment. My nephew was on Real World and the producers suggest all sorts of these faux conflicts to make reality TV….

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Nov 8, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Just a bit much out of a 'reality' show

Don’t you think? Hell, the producers could have directed Todd to screw up just so they could measure the reaction from his ‘supervisors.’

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Nov 8, 2010 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow

Didn’t think anybody would take it this way. I was just thinking out loud with my reaction, in terms of how I would talk to my students about this as an example. I didn’t mean to imply that “The Ricketts are dishonest” or that this reflects on how they run the team, as much as generalizing that these are the kinds of issues every manager faces.

I guess I don’t watch enough reality shows to be that suspicious that it was all contrived. Mea culpa.

No one should be untouchable on this roster unless his name is Eliot Ness...or Starlin Castro.

by cubzfan on Nov 8, 2010 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I hate reality shows

and must admit I didn’t watch Todd’s journey into fantasy land. The only reality that exists is a script thats present the network’s concept of appealing to the lowest common denominator.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Nov 9, 2010 6:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Great point and what message does this send to young fans

It’s ok to lie, just have the money to buy yourself out if questioned

"If The Phone Doesn't Ring, It's Me"

by parrotinct on Nov 9, 2010 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

Maybe I’m a little over-analytical at times too, but I enjoyed the post and it made me think. Let the haters hate, zambranofan!

by Ryan D on Nov 11, 2010 5:27 PM CST up reply actions  

My take...

I found this to be an interesting look at the business side of running a team. I remember seeing Ricketts selling the hot dogs (and in retrospect, wishing I bought one from him). I asked my regular beer vendor who he was and what was going on, he told me that was a new guy Mark and they were filming a reality show.

I know after sitting behind a desk for all these years, I would not have been able to keep up with the washing toilets or selling hot dogs, so it was not a real surprize to see Todd do poorly at this when he tried out the jobs, but to see the pro’s do their jobs, that was an eye opener.

 It takes a lot of work to run a team. Yes, we are all concerned about the on the field product, and I believe this last year was a learning year for the Ricketts to see how a team runs. Next year will be the real test to see what they do as far as the player personel.

THe RIcketts did what they could do to improve on what they had an idea about doing. Lets work on the physical plant. Spiff that up. Improve there. They did that. With 1 year down, now they have an idea how the player side of the business works and they can get down to business therezz.

I find it interesting that people keep comparing the RIcketts to Rocky Wirtz and why didn’t he Ricketts come in and clean house like Wirtz. Well, the RIcketts are newcomers to running a sports team. Rocky was involved with the running of the Blackhawks for years before he took over. He had an idea of what he could do and what he couldn’t do. ALso, he didn’t just spend 800,000 to purchase the team so he was not limited on what he could spend. Also, with the hard cap of Hockey, Wirtz was not stuck paying millions upon millions of dollars in bad contracts. Where the RIcketts came in, they were novices in running a team. They had to rely on who was there to help teach them the inside game. They had to keep paying the giant contracts that were handed out in the Tribune days on top of what they just paid out for the team. LIke I said, this last year was a learning year. The team needs to rebalance thier books. Yes, payroll is probably going down. WHy? Because they can’t keep putting out the big bucks for payroll and also pay out the debt.

See the Cubs 2011 schedule at http://cubsbythenumbers.com/sched2011.html
Also see what old Cubs Scorecards looked like at http://cubsbythenumbers.com/scorecards.html

by kaseyi on Nov 8, 2010 9:42 AM CST reply actions  

Once again...fast fingers

make that 800,000,000 not 800,000

See the Cubs 2011 schedule at http://cubsbythenumbers.com/sched2011.html
Also see what old Cubs Scorecards looked like at http://cubsbythenumbers.com/scorecards.html

by kaseyi on Nov 8, 2010 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Since we haven't seen the books

why are we to be concerned that the debt is excessive? Money is dirt cheap nowadays. I don’t see the ricketts needing a telethon quite yet.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Nov 9, 2010 6:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Since none of us knows the details of the Ricketts' loans....

… making that statement is done without facts. My understanding is that they have in the tens of millions of debt service every year.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 9, 2010 7:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Why is it that my statement

is without facts but yours is acceptable because you have an understanding?
What team doesn’t have debt? The Ricketts knew full well what the terms of their purchase were and they agreed to them. If it was a bad decision, it was theirs. And since they won’t open the books, why should the fans agonize over their costs? Interest rates are extremely low so their debt service shouldn’t be an issue.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Nov 9, 2010 6:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't have an understanding.

You don’t know what interest rate the Ricketts are paying. Neither one of us knows what the debt service is, or what the books show. You’re right, they won’t open them. So your speculation and statement that the Ricketts have plenty of money could well be incorrect.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 10, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Well I do know that the Ricketts

have an estimated net worth of $2.6B and that the 3 lead banks are reported to have loaned them $450M of the $845M price. There have been reports that the team makes about $2M per home game for tickets, concessions, and broadcast rights. Added to that is the 25% stake in Comcast SportsNet Chicago they also received. That’s worth $180M. In addition, the teams receives about $56M annually in deduction from their profits for depreciation of the purchase.

And interest rates are remarkably low, certainly less than 10%. Would you now agree that the Ricketts have plenty of money?

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Nov 10, 2010 11:54 PM CST up reply actions  

You've cherry picked figures to prove your point.

I can’t disprove those numbers. You’re also not taking into account all the money they have to spend, including player and other employee payroll, travel for the players and scouting, the minor league system, and debt service.

If you can match up those numbers, sure, then I’ll agree. Until then, you haven’/t proven your point.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 11, 2010 7:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Are you suggesting any of the numbers

I mentioned aren’t factual? Tell me which numbers are cherry picked? The numbers are real. They may be off slightly but they are based upon considerable investigation. Tell me what numbers you want me to match up to convince you.

I can’t force you to agree with me, but at least I have offered numbers to support my position. On the other hand, what have you presented other than a vague understanding.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Nov 11, 2010 8:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Your numbers are estimates.

And you don’t know how much of the Ricketts’ net worth is invested in other properties. You’re still guessing.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 12, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Obviously you haven't taken any time to

determine the validity of the numbers. The numbers are compiled from various sources who are knowledgeable in those matters. If you’re going to question them, it would seem reasonable to at least be specific about your criticism.

And what difference does it make if the net worth is invested in other companies or hidden in their mattresses? Net worth is net worth.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Nov 13, 2010 12:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Epiphany for TV

That’s all show’s like Undercover Boss are. They place bosses in situations to see how difficult their employees work and how they themselves could not do the job on day one. What fun would it be if the boss could do that job right off the bat?

The Boss gets an epiphany of how difficult their employees work, for how long with the Cubs, and their personal backgrounds. And the Boss can come up with a suggestion or two to improve working conditions.

And then they meet face-to-face and the employee raises his eyebrows and also gets a perk.

And Todd is “forced” to live on Sheffield avenue across the street from Wrigley Field for a week? Hey, how many non-baseball persoonel do you know that can afford to live at Sheffield and Addison?

It was a cute show and it allowed the Ricketts to show a more human side of themselves. And the Cubs and Toyota popped a commercial into it.

I don’t think anyone should anything more into it.

Kumbaya

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on Nov 8, 2010 10:48 AM CST reply actions  

As interesting as this episode sounded

I cannot believe how crappy this show, on the whole, is.
When it first started I thought the concept would be bosses getting to know their business better and building on success. Instead it turned out to be employee lottery. Whichever employee had the best sob story got a trip or money or whatever.

I'm Buck Melanoma. Moley Russell's wart. Not her wart. Not her wart! I'm... I'm the wart. She's my tumor. My... my growth. My... uh, my pimple. I'm Uncle Wart. Just old Buck "Wart" Russell. That's what they call me, or Melanoma Head. - Uncle Buck

by Andiamo Cuccioli on Nov 8, 2010 10:49 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah I didn't think the show would be interesting because

it would spend a lot of time with the fake employee talking about how they understand what a tough job the workers have and I was right. That they add sob stories and “human interest ones” shouldn’t be surprising. It just isn’t interesting because they are so motivated to find them and really, I’d never believe anything is real that has a camera following this guy around that no one knows who it is supposedly.

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
Ryan Theriot scores. Two out -Gameday 7/23/10

by Sandberg's evil twin on Nov 8, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

My wife and I spent the start of the show

watching them scan crowd shots and we’d say “Was that me? Was that me?”

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on Nov 8, 2010 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

This was not very impressive......

Todd looked more lively than Tom…. I got the feeling that despite the excuse that Tom was more well known, there was no way Tom was going to do that. I mean really Tom and Todd look very much alike….

It would have been fun to hear one employee bitching about having their trailer taken away so they could pay Soriano to jog down to first base on a grounder. But I assume the Cubs have final say on what gets broadcast.

My guess is he didn’t want try Hendry’s job. it would be too hard getting out from all the damage that has already been done!

by TJ11 on Nov 8, 2010 10:55 AM CST reply actions  

When the Cubs sign some decent free agents it will be much more exciting!

I wonder why that trailer was taken away?

Was because they are cheap?

by TJ11 on Nov 8, 2010 10:58 AM CST reply actions  

My guess is that trailer was taken away under Tribco.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 8, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

It probably was put into motion the previous year.

Since they’ve fixed this problem, why is it an issue when thinking about signing free agents?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 8, 2010 11:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Because it fits with the downsizing of everything to me.

I will be shocked if he get any of the better free agents this off season.

by TJ11 on Nov 8, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't expect that, either.

But that doesn’t mean the team isn’t going to be improved.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 8, 2010 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

So how do you see it being improved, without signing Dunn, Wood, or making a trade for another impact bat?

Well, maybe having Xavier Nady for an entire year at 1B will bring us at least a game closer to 4th place next year.

by TheGrinch13 on Nov 8, 2010 5:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Nady's gone.

I posted last week about signing Adam LaRoche. That would be an improvement.

Also, remember the team played 24-13 under Mike Quade in August & September, many of those games against contending teams. It’s already improved.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 9, 2010 7:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Are you sure Nady is gone?

I know his contract is up, but do you think he could be brought back?

by TJ11 on Nov 12, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

No.

I think he’s gone.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 12, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

No.

I think he’s gone.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 12, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I will be shocked if

the guy in the parking lot get he get any of the better trailers this off season. Like with Direct TV and a slushy maker …

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on Nov 8, 2010 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Come on Al!

Everyone knows that signing free agents and the number of trailers in a parking lot are intricately linked indicators of future team performance! We discussed that in Trailer 101!!

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on Nov 8, 2010 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Interesting show

I found it interesting and an inside look at behind the scenes at Wrigley.

Cleaning bathrooms is not easy. A very good friend of mine’s mother owns an office building cleaning company. Through the years I have worked PT for them and even today have helped out a bit in a pinch. It’s not easy.

As far as some being surprised employees are going to college while working for the Cubs. I worked at Wrigley while in college. Its an idea job for a student. Most of the time you’re working the most school is out for the summer.

Formerly known as cubstoseriesby100. Thanks Al for letting me change my outdated screenname.

by puckishcubsfan on Nov 8, 2010 11:04 AM CST reply actions  

I wish I could work at Wrigley...

Somebody move Wrigley to Bowling Green, Ky!

"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
"They played like son of a guns......lord have mercy." Mike Quade

by Cubbiegoon on Nov 8, 2010 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

I enjoyed the show.

I thought Todd did a good job. Now we’ll wait and see what happens with the team in the off season.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Nov 8, 2010 11:08 AM CST reply actions  

Please stop.

Your whining about Tom isn’t going to change a damn thing.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Nov 8, 2010 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Neither is Tom....

I am looking forward to next year!

Division champions for sure!!!!!

by TJ11 on Nov 8, 2010 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Why you! ^-^

"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
"They played like son of a guns......lord have mercy." Mike Quade

by Cubbiegoon on Nov 8, 2010 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Interesting ID photo

Looks a lot like Ali G…

Starlin Castro singles on a pop up to catcher Jason LaRue.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Nov 8, 2010 11:08 AM CST reply actions  

One time when me was high, me sold me car for like 24 chicken McNuggets.

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by PacificCub on Nov 8, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I wonder what Tom's siblings do....

We know Tom is the face and goes to the meetings and stuff. But I want to know what his brothers and sister do.

"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
"They played like son of a guns......lord have mercy." Mike Quade

by Cubbiegoon on Nov 8, 2010 11:17 AM CST reply actions  

They are on the Board

But don’t have day-to-day jobs with the Cubs.

Laura M. Ricketts is co-owner of the Chicago Cubs and CEO of Ecotravel.com. Ricketts is also a board member of Lambda Legal1 and the Housing Opportunities for Women organization.

John Peter “Pete” Ricketts is the former Chief Operating Officer of Ameritrade 1. He was the Republican nominee for the 2006 U.S. Senate race in Nebraska 2 which he lost to incumbent Ben Nelson.

Ricketts was born in Nebraska City, Nebraska, and now lives in Omaha . He attended the University of Chicago for both his bachelor and graduate studies, and received an MBA in marketing and finance from the university’s Graduate School of Business 1.

Ricketts and his wife Susanne have three children, Margot, Roscoe, and Eleanor. Ricketts’ father is J. Joseph Ricketts, founder of Ameritrade 1. In addition to his many interests, Ricketts currently sits on the board of Bellevue University in Bellevue, Nebraska (just south of Omaha).

Todd Ricketts runs a bicycle shop in the suburbs.

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on Nov 8, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

The Rickett's have better personalities...

…than the McCaskey’s, but so far, they remind me a lot of how the Bears are run.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Nov 8, 2010 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Not to me

As far as I know, the McCaskey’s only have the Bears. The Ricketts family has been successful before they bought the Cubs. I think the Ricketts’ can improve the Cubs organization, build a better team and farm system, and improve Wrigley Field.

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on Nov 8, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

What I mean...

…is how the hierchy is currently structured.

The Bears have an accountant calling the shots on whether the football operation is headed in the right direction and the Cubs have Tom Ricketts – a finance guy.

IMO, that is a recipe for failure. The longer it stays that way, the bigger hole you did yourself.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Nov 8, 2010 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

That'sa big stretch between profession and behavior

Chicago Bulls, Jerry Reinsdorf = CPA and lawyer
New England Patriots, Robert Kraft = MBA from Harvard
NY Yankees, George Steinbrenner =BA from Williams College and time in the Air Force
LA Lakers, Jerry Buss = Chemist

Having a good sense of finances is important as a sports owner. You need to ensure your employees are spending money wisely. Unless you want more $145MM Met-like payroll fiascos.

The fact that the Bears hired Ted Phillips is their own problem.

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on Nov 8, 2010 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I think you missed my point.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Nov 8, 2010 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

I lol'd when I saw Laura and Pete's record then I saw Todd runs a bicycle shop.

Not that it is a bad job….but you guys know what I mean.

"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
"They played like son of a guns......lord have mercy." Mike Quade

by Cubbiegoon on Nov 8, 2010 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I just didn't see as much info on Todd

No wikipedia page

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on Nov 8, 2010 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

hold on while I create one

I am thinking a PhD from San Diego State Technical Community College for the Blind, then he spent his formative years in the inner city teaching underpriveledged youth how to make proper gang signs, then he started and failed a taco truck and now has his bike shop. He has 4 wives and 112 beautiful children.

by hansman1982 on Nov 8, 2010 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey now!

Don’t disparage San Diego State. As a young man, I attended one fine Sorority Rush over a druken weekend…

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on Nov 8, 2010 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Great write up...

The show got me excited about the seasons to come from the Ricketts family regime:D

John
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by Ionnes on Nov 8, 2010 11:32 AM CST reply actions  

I haven't seen the show yet, but...

as far as what I feel about the Ricketts, I know they need time to change things around, I just wish there was one thing that has been done by them so far that would give me more confidence about giving us a winning team or heading towards the WS. If anyone has his/her own reason for your own feeling of confidence, please let me know :)

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Nov 8, 2010 11:48 AM CST reply actions  

great
But one thing I found from watching the reactions to the show of the people who work for the Cubs who were at this party is the complete dedication that each one of them has for their work, and although none of the baseball people were there, there’s no doubt in my mind that all of them are working toward the singular goal of winning the World Series.

the baseball people were too busy talking to cliff lee to be watching reality tv, right?

by circuitclout on Nov 8, 2010 12:33 PM CST reply actions  

Why is it that Cliff Lee is the be-all and end-all of winning?

He wasn’t all that great during the regular season and the Giants beat him twice in the World Series.

That’s worth blowing $20+ million a year on?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 8, 2010 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Because

We already have a buch of Cubs Jersey’s with “Lee” on the back! Give Cliff Lee his money, jersey # 25, and let’s roll!

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on Nov 8, 2010 3:11 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

LMAO

Rec’d

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 8, 2010 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Or we could get someone to eat enough of Alfonso's contract

and sign Rafael and give him #12. We need really need a good righhanded set up guy.

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Nov 8, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

So is Eddie Zambrano

"We gotta circle the bandwagons." - Devin Hester

by Jose's Eyelid on Nov 8, 2010 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL!!!

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Possibly hiking up Mount Marcy during the weekend of October 23-24. State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Nov 8, 2010 6:16 PM CST up reply actions  

you're right

it’s just the world series. it’s only worth making it there if you can do it in a cost conscious and profitable way.

by circuitclout on Nov 8, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Did I say that?

No, I did not.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 8, 2010 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

did i say

that cliff lee was the “be-all and end-all of winning?”
yeah, i didn’t think so.

by circuitclout on Nov 8, 2010 5:31 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm pretty sure most of these people....

… or their clones, said the same thing about Soriano.

I think I speak for everyone here when I say, "Wait, what the hell are you talking about?"

by Ross on Nov 8, 2010 8:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Or Carlos Lee.

Oh wait … is he still under contract in Houston?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Possibly hiking up Mount Marcy during the weekend of October 23-24. State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Nov 8, 2010 6:25 PM CST up reply actions  

How were all the cameras explained to the employees?

A camera filming restroom cleaning had to seem suspicious to the employee — and even more suspicious when those cameras followed the same new-hire to the scoreboard where the guy that fired him a few days earlier from restroom detail also worked.

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie" -- Tony Montana

by calicubfan on Nov 8, 2010 12:36 PM CST reply actions  

Same question I had.

…these types of shows never really did anything for me, because you know they aren’t nearly as realistic as they try to make them to be.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Nov 8, 2010 12:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Undercover Boss

Says employees are told that someone is making a film about finding/working a new job.

At best even if the believe that , they are hardly going to act naturally, at worse they have a brain and figure it out. Either way it is fiction not reality.

"Lou Piniella's been a great manager for a long time and I stand by him completely"
Jim Hendry

by Doggie Stalker on Nov 8, 2010 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

As the beer vendor told me that day I saw him selling hot dogs...

They were told that a reality show wanted to follow a new hire around Wrigley to show a typical day for someone working there

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by kaseyi on Nov 8, 2010 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I watch the show about half the time...

compared to most other CEO types, Mr Ricketts came off looking weasel-y. I’m sure he’s a decent enough of a guy, but that was not not a shining promotional for Cub-dom last night in my view.

I’m glad it’s Tom and not Todd who’s in charge. I will say that as far as “taking care” of the featured employees at the end—he went beyond the call.

I also give them credit for leaving in the thrown away hot dog sweat down scene ..my guess is that CBS had final say so, otherwise that would have been left out. He flat out lied through his teeth to a hot dog vendor boldly and repeatedly. Not a good image for the Cub org.

"He can compress the most words into the smallest idea of any man I know. " Abraham Lincoln

by cubfever7 on Nov 8, 2010 1:16 PM CST reply actions  

Next week on Undercover....

Laura grows a beard and sells Frosty Malts with Irving’s great great grandson.

by Employee22 on Nov 8, 2010 2:03 PM CST reply actions  

Oh, my.

I thought no one but me remembered Irving. He was a Frosty Malt vendor who had only a couple of teeth and seemed like he was about 150 years old.

He hasn’t been around since the 1970’s or maybe early 1980’s.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 8, 2010 3:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I remember...

a Frosty Malt vendor who sounded like Elmer Fudd and yelled out “Ice Cweam, Ice Cweam!” Was that Irving?

Anyone remember the peanut vendor who sang the Winston cigarette jingle, “Peanuts taste good, like a peanut should.”

by AlSpangler on Nov 8, 2010 7:17 PM CST up reply actions  

The most damning revelation in this show?

The fact that Todd threw away the hotdogs instead of just eating them! ;-)

Ok, maybe not all four, but any grown man (and some women I know) should be able to wolf down at least a couple of dogs in the time it takes to throw them away. And if it’s against the Vendor Code to consume your own wares, then he could have easily just given them away.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Nov 8, 2010 5:03 PM CST reply actions  

That was reeeeal shady

From my point of view, why why why would you throw those dogs away and lie about it?

$18 for hotdogs? From a vendor who’s trying to fein making a living? On that day given the crowd, the shots of his sales, and a inside knowledge of what sales were like during that homestand, an experienced vendor maybe cracks $100. He throws away 20% of his daily income? That really seemed to miss the point of pretending to earn a living off of that job.

No wonder Rocco was flabbergasted. There’s no rule saying you have to sell all the dogs… at the end of the day, we get credit back for what we don’t sell. Sure, it’s frustrating work to walk up and down all day, feel uncomfortable addressing a crowd (especially if you’re shy by nature), get heckled, feel pressured and rushed, etc. But to throw money away? That whole vendor scene was entirely confusing and unenlightening.

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by section229beer on Nov 8, 2010 5:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Rocco's - true thougths

What do you think he told his family that night after working with Todd.

"If The Phone Doesn't Ring, It's Me"

by parrotinct on Nov 9, 2010 5:48 PM CST up reply actions  

No news here.

That was all announced some time back (in terms of the marketing people) and I posted about the outsourcing of publications last week.

The article is correct, that does kind of go against the “family” atmosphere promoted on the show.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 9, 2010 7:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I see no link in the actions

Sorry but taping a feel good show with the guys who clean bathrooms/works the scoreboard, sells hot dogs, and parks cars has absolutley no relationship to letting go the director fo sales and promotion.

High profile jobs with sports teams have always been volatile. Change in ownership, change in GM, change in marketing VP have brought changes in some personnel below them.

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on Nov 9, 2010 8:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Is it just me?

Or does it seem like the Ricketts are obsessed with bathrooms?

"I'd rather hit home runs you don't have to run as hard." -- Dave Kingman

by BucknerKongCardenal on Nov 8, 2010 10:21 PM CST reply actions  

That may have been one of the "jobs" that the Ricketts insist he do

So they could mention the renovations. Of course, it didn’t help that the regular worker mentioned that those renovations had made his job tougher.

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"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Nov 9, 2010 5:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, when you gotta go, you gotta go.

There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion?

by Zeke on Nov 9, 2010 5:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Zach Galifianakis wants to know

Will they be installing a bidet?

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on Nov 9, 2010 8:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Jeff Baker pees sitting down.

by Edelweiss on Nov 9, 2010 11:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Kinda got the feeling from the rest of the Ricketts family

Their impression was…sure Todd, go ahead and go on Undercover Boss. Spend as much time as you like. Don’t hurry back.

by rgonzale on Nov 9, 2010 11:21 AM CST reply actions  

As did I

A cheap way to advertise the Club AND make a sibling feel important.

" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "

by aaronb on Nov 9, 2010 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I also

have a Business Management degree and I used to cut grass in my neighborhood!! Can I get an internship too??

Another case of reality tv having little to do with reality, and in this case self promotion.

Please

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Nov 9, 2010 2:46 PM CST reply actions  

I wish

they’d do a follow up episode. This time mentioning what they are going to do to improve the team and not the bathrooms.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Nov 9, 2010 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Funny to see all the overreaction

Todd came across as a decent guy. If anything, this reassures me about the new ownership, despite the fact that Hendry still has a job. It must be overwhelming to all of a sudden own something as gigantic as a major league baseball team. Between their recent comments about wanting to produce a perennial winner by focusing more on the farm, and the comments made throughout the show, I think their hearts and minds are both in the right place. Now we just have to wait and see how it all shakes out.

"It's important in life to not give a shit. It can help you a lot." - George Carlin

by bluemagic9 on Nov 9, 2010 3:50 PM CST reply actions  

Undercover Boss

I watch this show more often than not and its certainly interesting. Some episodes are great, others fall flat. This one ranks up there as a meh episode. It was cool seeing some of the behind the scenes and Todd was pretty typical of most of the execs who are on the show. Most of them really struggle with the labor focused tasks that they are given. Whether it was the CEO of Frontier Airlines really struggling to clean up an airplane or the CEO of a Great Wolf Resorts having a hard time keeping up with the lead Lifeguard, the undercover boss invariably learns the obvious less on that their employees work hard. Its unfortunate that this is what it takes, but its not surprising seeing the separation between upper level management and their employees. Ricketts was no different.

I also agree with the feeling that this show has become like a lottery ticket for the three or four employees that the Undercover Boss ends up working with. While its great to see people rewarded, there are hundreds, if not thousands of hard workers for each company deserving, and with the camera present, we’re unlikely to learn that any of these people are real bastards or lazy.

Again, I was left with a “meh” feeling after seeing Ricketts. Seems like a decent guy…the Old Style product placement struck me as totally contrived… and hopefully he’s learned a few things that will help Cubs employees and the “fan experience”.

by dmlichte on Nov 9, 2010 7:48 PM CST reply actions  

I laughed out loud

at the Old Style product placement. My god, that was awful.

"It's important in life to not give a shit. It can help you a lot." - George Carlin

by bluemagic9 on Nov 12, 2010 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't see the show but...

I like Todd Ricketts and the other Ricketts. I think they’re sincere about getting this team to win and my only criticism is that I wouldn’t have used the name “Mark Dawson.” I think “Richard Dawson” would have been better.

by jeffmills1972 on Nov 10, 2010 7:33 PM CST reply actions  

FWIW

I have heard that the Ricketts are doing things for other employees than just the ones who were on the show, including taking a second family to spring training.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 11, 2010 7:43 AM CST reply actions  

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