Aaron Miles and PTBNL or cash for Willy Taveras and Adam Rosales
Aaron Miles and PTBNL or cash for Willy Taveras and Adam Rosales
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Aaron Miles being managed by Dusty Baker? He’ll be leading off and playing shortstop every day.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
haha exactly
we (@dat_cubfan_dave @drewishdrewid and myself) were just saying the same thing on twitter
random thoughts aplenty: @crouch17
Yep, look for Miles and Cabrera at the top of their order.
Mwa-hahahahaha!!!
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just astonishing
Wonder how loud Miles will be booed the first time the Reds come to Wrigley?
I suspect light booing
at best (or worst). He really was something of an invisible man while here, and I think most people were indifferent about him anyway.
by Damen Jackson on Feb 1, 2010 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed.
I wonder how many casual fans will even remember him.
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I'd like to think there'd be no real reaction
But some of the comments on this website last year made it sound like he was the anti-Christ . . .
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
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by Shanghai Badger on Feb 1, 2010 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
Could be sooner than that...
How about April 9, when the Cubs play at the Great Wrigley Ball Park in Cincinnati? Should be enough Cubs fans there to make some noise.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Wouldn't loud laughter be better?
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The sad thing is Miles is laughing all the way to the bank. How he manages to be PAID for what he does is beyond me.
Now only 12,859 on the "Cubs Season Tickets Waiting List"...
I guess I have to rethink...
my wishing Miles success. And on the brightside, I feel just a little bit less threatened by the Reds this season. (knock on wood). :)
I was on another website
responding to someone’s dumb assertion that the NL would end up 1. Cards 2. Brewers 3. Reds 4. Cubs 5. Astros 6. Pirates. In addition to stating how dumb it is to predict the outcome of the NL on 2/1/2010, I had brought up that the Brewers and Reds have done practically nothing to make them competitive in the Central, and that the Reds would be on the bottom half of division if we look at how things are right now. Minutes later this news breaks and I feel like I will be absolutely correct in my prediction.
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by Craig in South Bend on Feb 1, 2010 12:04 PM CST reply actions
Wow...
Only Dusty could followup the signing of one OPS-challenged infielder (Cabrera) with the acquisition of one with an even worse line
Damn
after all that effort we put forth to make sure that Miles was traded outside the division. Now we have to face him all the time next season.
Can we give the division to the Reds?
I know it’s only February but I like their chances
(sarcasm)
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
Now that they have Miles
I’m not sure what the point of playing the season is.
We should have put in a clause in the trade penalizing the A’s if they traded him back to the NL Central.
by Josh Timmers on Feb 1, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
They should give us Fox back
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
no they should not
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why
aren’t we happy that we’re going to be playing against him?
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Feb 2, 2010 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
Oh gosh no
I’m not angry enough :P
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
Beleiive it or not
but I think the Reds can be pretty competitive in 2010. I’ve seen a few of the early projectors put them ahead of the Cubs.
by jerry morales rules on Feb 1, 2010 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
Sure
But Aaron Miles isn’t pushing them over the hump
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
wtf
that’s just a weird trade, especially on the heels of getting Cabrera.
According to the various tweets from beat writers,
this is a straight player swap. If that’s the case, this move will save the Reds a few bucks.
Miles makes $2.7 mill
Tavares makes $4.0 Mill
This move saves the Reds $1.3 million
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Feb 1, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
and Rosales must make 400k or something
so I guess it makes sense from that perspective. until you take into account the inherent negative value Miles brings to your ballclub
by PrincetonCubs on Feb 1, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
and the Cubs are paying $1 million of that
… per the trade with Oakland.
Now, that raises a question.
The Cubs paid the A’s the $1 million. Do they have to send that to Cincinnati?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Does it work that way?
I assumed they would send $1 million to Miles. But maybe I’m wrong.
Very good point...
Since it was 1MM for Aaron Miles salary is that different than a Cash Consideration of 1MM??
I believe this tweet clarifies what you guys are wondering about:
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So that means that the Reds have to pay Miles $2.7 million?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Yes, I believe so.
Susan Slusser goes into detail about Miles salary at the very bottom of this article.
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Here's what she says.
For those of you wondering about Miles’ salary, of which the Cubs reportedly were paying $1 million, the transaction with the Cubs actually included $1 million for salaries. That didn’t mean that the Cubs were paying Miles himself $1 million, nor does it mean the A’s were considered to be on the hook for $1.7 of Miles’ salary rather than $2.7 million. Miles counted for $2.7 million against Oakland’s payroll, not $1.7 million, which is why the A’s can characterize today’s move as paying $1.3 million for Rosales, not $2.3 million. They are shedding Miles’ $2.7 million, and they do not lose that $1 million from the Cubs, so that works out pretty well, all in all, for the A’s.
If the Cubs were paying $1 million for “salaries”, why do the A’s get to keep it? Shouldn’t the Cubs get that money back?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Maybe it was for Fox - you know, his salary and all of those incentive clauses he's gonna earn...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I'm baffled.
It almost reads as if the $1 million is some sort of convenience fee.
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ATMs are getting more and more ridiculous
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by Shanghai Badger on Feb 2, 2010 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
That's what Hendry gets for dealing with the American League.
Out of network!
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That's what Hendry gets for trying to make a trade using Ticketmaster.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
That's what Hendry gets
for letting Alan Greenspan structure the payments!
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Feb 2, 2010 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
That's what Hendry gets
for not backloading Miles Deal enough – he threw in more money at the end to simulate the effect.
That's what Hendry gets for starting the...
…Iraqi War. Oh wait, that’s not his fault?
Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.
COBD?
Contracts of backloaded destruction?
Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou
According to certain posters,
everybody on the team has one of those.
Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.
This is the first and only time...
…Taveras will be involved in a one sided trade where he is the “big get.” I wonder what sort of nudey pics Beane has on Jocketty.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
It appears Beane is not yet done for the day, so more may soon be revealed.
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The question, then, is...
… will any of his moves involve a call to Jim Hendry?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
They probably weigh the same
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
Your guesses are as good as mine.
I dare not plum the depths of Billy Beane’s labryinthian mind.
(OK, better go get lunch.)
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Call me crazy, but I actually think that Taveras has some value
Not a lot, but some, certainly at least as a late inning defensive replacement or base stealer.
It’s a headscratcher from both side for sure.
by jerry morales rules on Feb 1, 2010 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
What are the A's going to do with that many OF's
Seriously, they have Crisp, Davis, Sweeney, Patterson, Fox, Buck, Cust, and now Tavaras. That’s a lot of players to be dividing time up with
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
That's really a bizarre trade, then.
Why trade for someone only to DFA him?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Billy Beane: An enigma wrapped in a riddle sprinkled with mystery dust.
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Yum....
Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.
He must think
someone would potentially pick up Tavares’ salary on waivers, or swap him and his salary for a player of similar salary that he likes better.
DEJESUS!!!
they got adam rosales
they must like him, the projection systems like him ok
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Feb 1, 2010 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
Reds fans don't seem to like Rosales much.
But he’s 26 and still has a chance to improve. The rest of the guys in that deal, not so much.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Do Reds fans like Aaron Miles?
Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.
well we like him because he isn't Taveras
We hate Taveras, and if Miles doesn’t bounce back DFA’ing him will be cheaper than DFA’ing Taveras.
by justin007000 on Feb 2, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
Now you know why we wanted to get rid of Miles so badly.
We felt about him the way you felt about Taveras.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I knew
Billy Beane couldn’t have been stupid enough to truly want Miles. With all those outfielders, he now has bargaining chips and some low risk, high reward players to use in that retooled outfield of his.
"There is no tomorrow for you, and that makes you very dangerous people."--Jimmy McGinty (Gene Hackman) The Replacements
Time is an illusion--lunch time doubly so.
The Aaron Miles era in Oakland is officially over before it began
I wonder if he ever even got fitted for a uniform.
by Mike Vails Evil Twin on Feb 1, 2010 1:44 PM CST reply actions
They would have had to shop in the kids department.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Hmm... for some reason I now want to go buy an AT&T cell phone...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Three bars strong...
Well, two and a half…
Now only 12,859 on the "Cubs Season Tickets Waiting List"...
I really like this picture
I know it’s been here a few times before, but it always makes me smile
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
Credit where credit is due.
BCB reader Damen Jackson took this photo.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
"Gabby" Road?...
Miles looks like Riot’s “toady”.
Now only 12,859 on the "Cubs Season Tickets Waiting List"...
hahaha
I just love how Oakland quickly decided to designate Taveras for assignment immediately after he was acquired. They sure did want to get rid of Miles, It appears. My question is, why would the Reds make such a stupid trade? Are they going to replace Taveras with Johnny Damon?
Start Sean Marshall!!
No.
Jocketty has already gone on record saying Damon is out of their price range (or something to that effect).
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WTH?
Aaron Miles is due for a coaching job soon. Looks like he’ll have a job with Dusty Baker after this season is done because they both share the idea that OPS is French for “clogging the bases.”
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Inexplicably...
Just wait until the 100th Miles groundout to second, which should happen by the end of April.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
hmmm
Miles is 33 We suddenly have quite the glut of aging infielders, but I don’t even care. What a day!
by Brendanukkah on Feb 1, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh you will care…you will…
Start Sean Marshall!!
Reds fan here
This is addition by subtraction for the Reds. This deal isn’t about acquiring Aaron Miles, it’s about getting rid of Willy Taveras. This could have been a bag of balls in return and it would have been a huge win for the Reds. There won’t be 100 Miles groundouts to 2nd, because he won’t get enough ABs to do that, even in Dusty-land.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 1, 2010 2:54 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't envision him playing much
He’s firmly behind veterans at all 3 infield positions he plays (and Votto at 1st, so he won’t play there either). He may get a spot start every now and then, but not nearly as much playing time he’s had in the past.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 1, 2010 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
Remember who your manager is.
He loves scrappy veterans like Miles.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
He's got more veteran-y guys already starting in Cabrera and Rolen.
And he likes Brandon Phillips a great deal.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 1, 2010 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
Phillips is a very good player.
Rolen, if healthy, is, too.
Cabrera, not so much.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
You'll get no argument here.
But he’s already entrenched in that lineup as the starter and 2-hitter. That’s Dusty’s guy, not Miles. And if the injury bug hits, Paul Janish will get starts at SS over Miles.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 1, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
Janish isn't much of a player, either.
At least not from what I saw when he played vs. the Cubs.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Defensively he's great, not much with the bat though.
He was the front runner for the starting SS job until two days ago. I think he’ll still get a shot at it, and if not him, Zack Cozart or Todd Frazier.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 1, 2010 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
Don't know much about those guys.
But they can’t be much worse than Janish as hitters.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Problem with veteran-y guys is they get hurt.
That’s when you’ll see a lot of Aaron Miles. (See Perez, Neifi.)
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our manager
gave him 31 starts last year
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Feb 1, 2010 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, just happened to see your signature.
The bass player in that band is a good friend of mine.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Redline Tap in Rogers Park,
every Tuesday night.
Too bad you get up so early, Al. I’ve traveled up the Redline many times after a game to catch ’em
Come visit me inside Wrigley along the Addison side mezzanine fence straight up from 1st base.
by section229beer on Feb 1, 2010 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
I've seen them there, and at a couple other places.
They’re also known as the Henhouse Prowlers.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I wish they'd come down to Champaign
Maybe they have and I just need to read the newspaper music section more.
Fontenot (fon-te-no): Cajun for "scrappy"
Guess it's appropriate that...
….Sexfist plays a hole in the wall.
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i find it funny how much ridicule this is getting
Miles serves as a utility infielder, they quietly signed Orlando Cabrera to be their starting SS over the weekend and have Phillips locked in at 2B
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Feb 1, 2010 2:57 PM CST reply actions
he wasn't very good last year
he sure was the years before that, a 3 WAR player from ‘05-’08…. that’s pretty damn good
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Feb 1, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
His numbers have been declining each of those years.
Plus, he has a reputation as a bad clubhouse guy.
(How on Earth did he get a positive WAR with that 86 OPS+ in 2008?)
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
defense
the whole reason he regressed last year in total value was his defense regressed considerably. Is this a one year phenomenon? or is he falling off a cliff, that will be the difference
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Feb 1, 2010 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
I can't recall the last time I saw a swing in UZR that drastic.
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Played SS and put up fantastic UZR numbers.
I don’t quite understand how Cabrera could look SO good defensively in ’08 at shortstop and so bad just a season later at the same position – in almost the same amount of innings.
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Cabrera is now 35.
He’s surely not going to be getting better defensively.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
he very well may get better over last year
last year he fell off a cliff, there’s little room to go but up
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Feb 1, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
Dont be surprised if Taveres ends up with Cubs
Beane and Hendry love to make deals.
Ugh.
Don’t we have enough outfielders already?
Plus, the reason the Reds wanted to get rid of Taveras was his contract. There’s no way Hendry takes that contract.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Hi, ho Silva = An A!
Actually, methinks Beane had a destination lined up for Taveras before he traded for him.
Fontenot (fon-te-no): Cajun for "scrappy"
won't happen
Taveras brings nothing to the table that the Cubs don’t already have.
Agreed
See Fuld, Sam
Also Colvin, Tyler
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
Neifi MIles leading off and playing SS
Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou
Cincinnati is a better ballclub than the Cubs right now
You can ridicule the Aaron Miles thing all you want, but all I know is that the Reds are on a serious upward trajectory and about to pass the Cubs as prime challenger to the St. Louis Cardinals.
Walt Jocketty saved over $1 million in this deal folks. THAT is why it was made.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
by BLou on Feb 1, 2010 10:13 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
and the Cubs saved $6million in the Bradley trade
but that is different in BLou land
Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou
half right
The Reds are on a “serious upward trajectory,” but I’m not worried about them passing the Cubs yet. Their pitchers are still young, their lineup can’t seem to stay healthy (I know, neither can ours) and they have a manager who truly hasn’t learned a thing in 15 years.
As many of us have said, the Cubs current nucleus (Aramis, Lee, Z, Lilly, Dempster, Soriano, etc.) should be given one more year to try to win it all. And with the current contract situations, it’s not like the Cubs have a lot of choices, anyway.
The Reds will be trouble in 2011. But if they’re better than the Cubs in 2010, I don’t see either squad playing much better than .500 ball.
Here is the way I see it
The Reds window is opening while the Cubs window is closing. I wouldn’t be shocked to see the Reds finish third behind a combination of St. Louis and Chicago, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Reds win the division, or at least give everybody a run for their money.
by justin007000 on Feb 2, 2010 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
you just lost whatever sense of credibility that you have left..
First the Nationals..now the Reds?? So are the Cubs the worst team in the league?
Start Sean Marshall!!
This most likely means Miles won't be going into the HOF as an Athletic
by Mike Vails Evil Twin on Feb 2, 2010 12:07 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
Well he's not going in as an athlete, that's for sure
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
And it is green'ed.
Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.
Question for all of you
… did Dusty lobby to sign Taveras and/or Patterson?
While I have no specific info...
… my guess would be “yes” to both.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Mine, too
Especially on Taveras. I’m arguing with a friend who’s a Reds fan.
Good luck with that.
Reds fans hate us. Maybe more than White Sox fans do. Really. Go look at the SBN Reds site if you don’t believe me.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
WTF is wrong with you and the insistence that Dusty Baker ADVOCATES for the acquisition of bit players and garbage
Do you REALLY believe this crap that comes out of your vindicative keyboard?!?! Just a hunch Al, but I’m pretty damned sure that if Walt Jocketty presented Dusty Baker with the alternative of Willie Tavares versus going out and getting somebody actually good like a Matt Kemp, that Dusty would vigoriously raise his hand for the later.
Jim Hendry is the idiot who polluted the Cub roster with Neifi Perez on top of Freddy Bynum, Jose Macias, Jose Hernandez, Enrique Wilson, Rey Ordonez.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Hm...I don't believe Jim Hendry was the topic at hand...
Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.
um ...
you’re actually gnashing your teeth about deals made seven years ago?
and those were small contracts
nothing crazy, i mean come on Jose Hernandez? Does BLou remember who we traded him for?
7/23/2003 – Cubs trade Jose Hernandez, Matt Bruback and Bobby Hill to the Pirates for Aramis Ramirez and Kenny Lofton.
Ramirez and Lofton were key components of a Cubs team that was one game from the World Series. Lofton hit .327 with an .381 OBP and was a catalyst atop the order for the Cubs, while Ramirez smacked 15 homeruns in less than 1/2 a season. Lofton has since retired, but Ramirez continues to man the hot corner for the Cubs after being resigned in 2006.
None of the players the Cubs gave up amounted to much in the majors. Bobby Hill had a decent half season with the Pirates in 2004, hitting .266 with a .353 OBP, but has since washed out of the majors and has played the last two years in the Independent League.
Hernandez was 33 at the time of the trade and already on the downslope of his career. He hit only .223/.282/.326 for the Pirates in 2003 before bouncing around for a few years. He was last seen playing in the Mexican League in 2008.
Bruback never pitched a day in the majors.
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Once again, Hendry did that at the request of Baker.
I’m not sure why you have trouble believing that.
And of course, the strawman of Kemp vs. Taveras? Come on. Of course no GM would turn that down. But that’s not the issue here, is it?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I would like to see a story or other proof connecting Taveras to Baker
I think I remember reading that a year ago, and it certainly makes sense considering what we know of Dusty.
BUT … I know that I could easily jump to conclusions about Dusty. No offense to anyone else here personally, but I doubt I’m the only one.
Wayne Krivksy was the GM when the Reds signed Correy Patterson
After he was fired he said he was ordered by the organization to sign Corey Patterson no matter what it took, which is why he received a $3M contract.
by justin007000 on Feb 2, 2010 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
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