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So much for everyone who said he'd be going to the Yankees. This is big news for the future of the Twins franchise.

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Wow, 10 years.

I’d imagine Twins fans must be pretty happy right about now.

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by daver on Feb 1, 2010 3:29 PM CST reply actions  

Indeed.

Takes the sting out of the [football team]’s loss.

by chilango2 on Feb 1, 2010 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

wow

all I can say about that deal.

Start Sean Marshall!!

by Chanman25 on Feb 1, 2010 3:30 PM CST reply actions  

3:27pm: ESPN’s Buster Olney tweets that he heard from multiple sources that Rosen’s report of a preliminary 10-year agreement is not accurate.

by jesus christos on Feb 1, 2010 3:30 PM CST reply actions  

It's Buster Olney

so of course he is wrong

Start Sean Marshall!!

by Chanman25 on Feb 1, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Is there some behind-the-scenes labor agreement meaning behind this?

The Twins never seem to spend this kind of money.

Come visit me inside Wrigley along the Addison side mezzanine fence straight up from 1st base.

by section229beer on Feb 1, 2010 3:46 PM CST reply actions  

The Twins have increased payroll to the tune of $95 million for 2010 (sans this contract).

They will invest in the on-field personnel, per their GM at their convention, which took place this past weekend.

by chilango2 on Feb 1, 2010 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Put on your best Minnesota accent

and say “Joe Mauer’s staying Twin. Alrighty then. Let’s go fishin’ ehh?”

by RiskyBusiness on Feb 1, 2010 3:48 PM CST reply actions  

Did'ja hear Joey Mauer's signin' with the Twins?

“You betcha! Let’s go to Embers and celebrate!”

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by D98 on Feb 2, 2010 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

That link says
Two people close to the Mauer family said they’d heard the framework of a deal — number of years and guaranteed money — may already be in place, with the sides simply ironing out details such as deferred payments. Those claims have gone unconfirmed by people close to the negotiations.

Which could be true. We’ll see.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 1, 2010 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

The right move for the Twins

Joe Mauer is a St. Paul native and the literal face of the Minnesota Twins. Players like Mauer are rare in this respect. The only current players who are as much identified with a ballclub is Derek Jeter and Albert Pujols. ’

Great for Mauer. Great for the Twins. Great for Twins’ fans.

The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.

by BLou on Feb 1, 2010 5:54 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed!

I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT

by cubsluver22 on Feb 1, 2010 9:23 PM CST up reply actions  

attendant or mascot?

Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou

by Cubbie-Tim on Feb 2, 2010 12:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Regardless of who it is

a 10 year deal is too much – especially for a 26 year old catcher with back problems. You of all people should be cynical of a 10 year signing BLou.

by bdlugz on Feb 2, 2010 9:34 AM CST up reply actions  

except that he won't be a catcher over the life of that contract

at some point, he’ll be one of the better DH’s in the game.

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Feb 2, 2010 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

or 1B. Morneau's contract runs out after 2013 season.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Feb 2, 2010 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Fan favorite or not...

can you really justify paying 23M a year for a DH??

by bdlugz on Feb 2, 2010 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

well, yes

in an age when most players move around constantly being able to have your own George Brett, or Tony Gwynn, or Kirby Puckett is probably worth the high price tag.

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Feb 2, 2010 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

how can anyone justify that while ripping Soriano's contract?

Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou

by Cubbie-Tim on Feb 2, 2010 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty easy to do when Mauer produces like he does...

… and Soriano produces like he does.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Feb 2, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

when the signing was done

Sorinao was producing and was the #1 FA that off season, which made the signing easier to justify as people are doing for the twins.

Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou

by Cubbie-Tim on Feb 2, 2010 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

and three years older than Mauer - 31 vs 28

and those are three prime production years.

If the Cubs had signed Soriano three years earlier (his 2 Texas years and 1 Washington year), then it would have been a lot easier to justify.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Feb 2, 2010 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

you are just siding with BLou

I know it AUGH!!!

SARCASM

I understand what you are saying, and it makes sense

Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou

by Cubbie-Tim on Feb 2, 2010 9:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Soriano might have been the #1 FA that offseason

But Mauer is one of the best and most valuable players in all of baseball. Odds are that his good years are going to continue to be far better than Sori’s, and odds are his bad years will be better than Sori’s as well.

I have little doubt that Mauer (and A-Rod, Pujols, etc) will be overpaid by the end of their contracts, but odds are very good that they will make up for that with high levels of production during the peak years.

And that doesn’t even take into account the marketing value a homegrown player like Mauer has to the Twins.

by madcow256 on Feb 2, 2010 11:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Not enough to cover a 23MM cost

Especially if something were to happen to him. The Cubs and Cards get ripped for 7 year deals and Mauer gets a pass on a 10 year deal … why??

Don’t get me wrong, I love Mauer, I think he deserves every penny he will get, I just don’t think the years need to be anywhere near this.

by bdlugz on Feb 2, 2010 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I will tell you

that Mark Rosen is pretty knowledgeable ‘round these parts (he broke Favre to the Vikes – but don’t tell ESPN), and likely has had Mauer in has speed-dial since his Cretin-Derham Hall days (if not before), where-as Buster has known of Joe since, what, the middle of his rookie year?

Hubbs!

by moose97 on Feb 1, 2010 7:24 PM CST reply actions  

I hope it is true

This is good for baseball. Plus, I kinda like the Twins.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Feb 1, 2010 7:53 PM CST reply actions  

I like the Twins too

Very pleased if this happens.

"Keep pushin till it's understood,
And these badlands start treating us good."

by AussieCub on Feb 1, 2010 8:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Let's not start sucking each other's popsicles yet

A 10-year deal only means the Yankees or Red Sox have to pay the Twins more to buy out the contract.

A-Rod had a long-term deal too.

This means nothing. You people are so cute when you are naive. I just want to eat you up and poop you out!

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Feb 1, 2010 8:13 PM CST reply actions  

I just want to eat you up and poop you out!

im flattered

by jesus christos on Feb 1, 2010 8:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Please be gentle when you chew me.

"Keep pushin till it's understood,
And these badlands start treating us good."

by AussieCub on Feb 1, 2010 8:45 PM CST up reply actions  

You know just how to butter me up.

Which may also help with the digesting part.

Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.

by Ryno Runner on Feb 1, 2010 8:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Not quite the same, my Klingon friend

The Rangers opted to get rid of A-Rod. The Twins will still have the choice.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Feb 1, 2010 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

good they lock him up, but 10 years? really 10 year contract to a catcher?

Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou

by Cubbie-Tim on Feb 1, 2010 9:14 PM CST reply actions  

This one...

Deserves it!

I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT

by cubsluver22 on Feb 1, 2010 9:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep

Joe Mauer is an extraordinary ballplayer and the literal face of the Minnesota Twins. He is a hometown boy who made good. He is to the Twins what George Brett was to the KC Royals. Bottom line, Mauer needs to start and finish his career in Minnesota. This is a GOOD THING for baseball too to have the story come to this conclusion.

The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.

by BLou on Feb 1, 2010 9:53 PM CST up reply actions  

that argument doesn't really hold water, because the Cubs don't have the option

of moving him to DH as he ages. Soriano’s contract wouldn’t look THAT bad, if we could put him at DH for the final two years

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Feb 2, 2010 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

you sure about that?

Those last two years have a good chance of looking real ugly – in the field and at the plate.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Feb 2, 2010 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

and in the Twins pocket

Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou

by Cubbie-Tim on Feb 2, 2010 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

10 years to one of the best players on the planet

when his back gives out they can move him to 1b or DH

by jesus christos on Feb 1, 2010 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

that's what I'm thinking

In ten years, Mauer is 37, and that is a rare age for a catcher. I’d expect him to move either to DH or 1b halfway through the deal

Start Sean Marshall!!

by Chanman25 on Feb 1, 2010 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

true, i didnt think of that

i was just shocked to see 10 years to a catcher.

Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou

by Cubbie-Tim on Feb 1, 2010 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

10 year deal is smart business for the Twins

Trend in baseball is to give “mega-stars” the extra long-term deal. In the case of a 10 year contract the ballclub can work with their financial gurus to structure annuity investment to accomodate the 10 year payout stream.

It’s not so much the length of the deal as it is the dollars. To get somebody like Joe Mauer on a 5 year deal would have costed a lot more money per year.

This is a brilliant deal for Mauer and the Twins. And very, very good for baseball that a small-market team like the Twins can keep a superstar like Mauer.

The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.

by BLou on Feb 1, 2010 10:39 PM CST up reply actions  

same logic with signing Soriano to 8 years

right? Sign him to a few extra to get the deal done instead of lose the #1 FA of the off season

Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou

by Cubbie-Tim on Feb 1, 2010 10:41 PM CST up reply actions  

dang

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Feb 1, 2010 11:32 PM CST up reply actions  

should i be surprised BLou didnt comment?

Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou

by Cubbie-Tim on Feb 2, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Remember

how relieved we all were when the Twins took Joe Who? with the first pick in the draft so we could get Mark Prior?

by Clark Addison on Feb 1, 2010 11:13 PM CST reply actions  

I wasn't.

Mauer had the third fastest throw from home to second in the world. Yeah, in the world, out of high school. He led his basketball team to a championship, was Gatorade Player of the Year and had a full QB ride to Florida State back when they were good, and was born and bred in Minnesota. Watching him play baseball and football in Minnesota high school state tournaments was a dream. Oh, and he struck out like 4 times in high school. Total.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Feb 1, 2010 11:58 PM CST up reply actions  

And the Cubs then had the choice of the two next-best players.

Mark Prior. And Mark Teixeira.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 2, 2010 7:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Was anyone complaining before...

… Prior started with, what turned out to be, career ending injuries? I imagine a few might have complained about the Cubs ending up with Prior, but if who foresaw the injuries with Prior?

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Feb 2, 2010 7:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Of course not. Cub fans were pleased to have a big war chest

and a chance at the identified #1 talent in the draft.

Turns out there were many who didn’t like Prior’s mechanics (see the SI article two years ago about Lynsecum where they cite specific scouting reports on Prior coming out of USC).

Most of us felt bad about Prior’s injuries and appreciated his performances when healthy.

I grew sick of him constantly being compared with Woody, but Prior always complaining about his bad luck and minor aches and pains, while Woody would come back and pitch through whatever he was dealing with. The last straw was Prior’s implying he was treated poorly by the Cubs.

Just so’s you know, I’m jealous of the Sox pitching staff and will not be so kind when you appear in-season to gloat.

at daver's request, Let's frontload this B**ch!

by N Oakley on Feb 2, 2010 8:23 AM CST up reply actions  

It's too bad...

… that Prior’s career was stalled with injuries. His career was comet-like. They drafted a top talent and he had a great run, albeit too short. IT happens. I don’t blame the Cubs for that.

Just so’s you know, I’m jealous of the Sox pitching staff and will not be so kind when you appear in-season to gloat.

I too like the Sox starters. I’m not sure though of the BP nor the position players, not sure how The Guillen Plan will work out. However it turns out, Guillen should wear-it.

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Feb 2, 2010 8:36 AM CST up reply actions  

What do you mean "wear it"?

The Sox starting pitching should be very, very good this year. However, I wonder about their idea of playing “small-ball” when their home park is a launching pad.

The “Ozzie Ball” thing from 2005 was a myth. That team won with starting pitching and home runs.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 2, 2010 8:38 AM CST up reply actions  

"...Wear it well..."
What do you mean “wear it”?

The Sox starting pitching should be very, very good this year. However, I wonder about their idea of playing "small-ball" when their home park is a launching pad.

I agree about the starting pitching and perhaps the Sox will be good largely as a result of that. But if Ozzie’s idea about small-ball in The Cell, in the AL, flops then Ozzie will need to wear it or bear responsibility for the results. This is a team of Ozzie’s wishes.

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Feb 2, 2010 6:34 PM CST up reply actions  

What's the real power structure over there, Doc?

If the Sox flop, I think Ozzie is the sort to “wear it” – he won’t shy away from accepting the blame. But will it be enough for KW to fire him? Would KW fire him? And would Jerry let KW fire him?

Obviously, KW has never shied away from making bold/risky decisions but I was always under the impression that Ozzie was a distinct favorite of Jerry’s. I guess it probably depends on how big a flop it is, if a flop even happens. I’ve given up trying to predict the AL Central…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Feb 2, 2010 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

My Reinsdorf essay.
What’s the real power structure over there, Doc?

Jerry Reinsdorf is the top dog, of course, after that …

If the Sox flop, I think Ozzie is the sort to "wear it" – he won’t shy away from accepting the blame. (1) But will it be enough for KW to fire him? (2) Would KW fire him? (3) And would Jerry let KW fire him?

Probably not to the first two. No, not if it were a losing season or failure of the team that Ozzie wanted. Regarding (3) Reinsdorf has allowed his GM’s to make moves he has disagreed with. One that Reinsdorf has repeatedly pointed to was when as The Hawk was GM, Reinsdorf reluctantly signed off on The Hawk’s firing of the Tony Larussa. Reinsdorf allowed that firing to take place in spite of his disagreeing with that move. I think if Reinsdorf could go back he would have blocked The Hawk from dumping Larussa.

So, would Reinsdorf allow KW to fire Guillen? I think it would take quite a bit for Reinsdorf to sign-off on that move, much more than a losing season. Remember too that KW only interviewed Guillen for the managerial job because of Reinsdorf.

Reinsdorf is not perfect. Early on he and Einhorn acted without understanding the situation in Chicago with cable TV, etc. and as a result alienated quite a few Sox fans. That said though, I respect and admire Jerry Reinsdorf. He’s loyal to his people. I know of that from a friend who played with the Sox. I know how Reinsdorf stepped in and quietly, discreetly helped him out. First by keeping him on the Sox roster so he’d get his pension & other benefits. Then by giving him a job when he really needed it. Jerry has even gone out of his way to attend this friend’s kids weddings. I know this loyalty and help is not unique to my friend either. That loyalty that Reinsdorf has shown earns him fierce loyalty for his employees in return too. Reinsdorf’s loyalty, is a great trait but that can also be a weakness too.

We’ll see what happens but I’d expect that Guillen will quit before he gets fired.

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Feb 2, 2010 11:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I could see that.

I envision a big pow wow. KW wants to fire Ozzie but is treading carefully, mindful of Reinsdorf’s affection for Ozzie. At the same time, Reinsdorf is subtly trying to play peacemaker, wanting to keep both parties happy. So it goes, back and forth – KW aggressing, Reinsdorf mollifying.

Finally, Ozzie says “Ah f&ck it. I don’t need this sh&t. I quit.” and walks out.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Feb 2, 2010 11:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Funny...

… and in many ways Uncle Lou is quite the same as Ozzie.

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Feb 2, 2010 11:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Usually in an older, less aware, sort of way.

at daver's request, Let's frontload this B**ch!

by N Oakley on Feb 3, 2010 9:04 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm trying to remember the starters

c – AJ
1st – Konerko
2nd – Ramirez
SS – Bacon, with Omar as backup
3b – Teahen/Viciedo
RF – Jones/Kotsay
CF – Rios/Pierre
LF – Quentin/Pierre

I don’t believe Jones has anything left, but there are options. Further, Detroit is juggling finances, Cleveland hasn’t upgraded, and MN is older without signficant improvement. With strong starting pitching and the bullpen average, things should tilt toward the Sox.

Cubs are still a mystery to me. The starting core is still the 2008 team less Edmonds/Johnson and some hairy Italian dude and 2009 less MB. Which year is closer to the real time will be proven this year.

at daver's request, Let's frontload this B**ch!

by N Oakley on Feb 2, 2010 8:49 AM CST up reply actions  

c – AJ
1st – Konerko
2nd – Bacon, with Omar as backup
SS – Ramirez, with Omar as backup
3b – Teahen/Viciedo
RF – Jones/Kotsay
CF – Rios/Pierre
LF – Quentin/Pierre

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Feb 2, 2010 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Correction...

c – AJ
1st – Konerko, Kotsay as backoup
2nd – Bacon
SS – Ramirez
3b – Teahen
RF – Quentin
CF – Rios
LF – Pierre

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Feb 2, 2010 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Bacon is awesome

Bacon's Brain Pictures, Images and Photos

Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou

by Cubbie-Tim on Feb 2, 2010 8:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd flip Becks and Ramirez as

Alexi seemed more comfortable at second. If just two of the combination of Jones, Quentin, Rios & Pierre can stay healthy/perform, the lineup looks pretty good. KW also has the luxury of trying to locate a 3b or corner OF if needed as Rios/Pierre & Jones can play CF and Teahen can play the OF corners.

Flexibility is cool.

at daver's request, Let's frontload this B**ch!

by N Oakley on Feb 3, 2010 9:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Flexibility is what Guillen wanted...

… and it’s what he got.

This lineup is a departure from the softball teams the Sox have been fielding for years. The home-runs and power were fun, at times, with those teams but I know I got tired of their inability to score on singles from second, etc. Station-to-station baseball is what they played. There is a possibility of HR’s up and down the lineup, with the exception of Juan Pierre. Of course there is the possibility too that this team won’t score enough runs. Losing 3-2, 2-1 won’t be fun either.

There is at least one 3rd baseman on the market, Joe Crede, but I don’t see the Sox moving that direction. They will probably have to stick it out with Teahen at 3rd and Rios in CF for this year and at least a couple years afterward too.

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Feb 3, 2010 9:45 PM CST up reply actions  

sounds like the Sox were using a Cubs model

Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou

by Cubbie-Tim on Feb 3, 2010 10:35 PM CST up reply actions  

If that's true...

… (which it isn’t) then the Sox are definitely following the wrong model.

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Feb 4, 2010 12:10 AM CST up reply actions  

the station to station is what we have been many times over

hence my comment

Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou

by Cubbie-Tim on Feb 4, 2010 1:10 AM CST up reply actions  

btw if you read again what I has said

WERE FOLLOWING is different than what you replied about what they ARE FOLLOWING

Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou

by Cubbie-Tim on Feb 4, 2010 1:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Viciedo

Isn’t playing major league ball in 2010. He’s fallen off every top 100 prospects list I’ve seen. His numbers in AA last year were not good.

He does have upside, no question, but it needs development and that won’t happen by the end of this season. I’d be surprised with 2011 too.

by jerry morales rules on Feb 3, 2010 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Carefull. You might get immortalized in a signature line

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Feb 2, 2010 8:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Sorry Badger, I'm get the impression the crustacean is a one weasel man

and won’t cheat on you.

at daver's request, Let's frontload this B**ch!

by N Oakley on Feb 2, 2010 8:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Mustelid, dammit!

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Feb 2, 2010 8:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Certainly the Cubs fortunes worked out for the worst in regards to that

but at the time, what the Cubs did was pretty clear cut. No one complained when the move was made. Had a big market team had the #1 overall pick, that team would have most likely chosen Prior.

I still remember that game that Prior had against Seattle in 2002. His 2003 season with the Cubs was arguably the best season that a Cub starting pitcher had in the past decade. When healthy, the guy was a beast and every indicator was that he was going to be one of the game’s elites for a long time to come. I would bet that after the 2003 season, Mark Prior’s trade value would have been in the top 10 in all of baseball. It was higher than Mauer’s and Teixeira’s.

Then the wheels came off.

by jerry morales rules on Feb 2, 2010 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Then the wheels came off.

the cubs arent allowed to have shiny things

by jesus christos on Feb 2, 2010 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope they lock him up.

He’s a special talent but scares the poop out of me on the open market. With rumors already out there his knees will need to move to first earlier than most catchers, he’s just the kind of guy the Cubs love.

The cynic in me sees the Cubs signing a multi year big ticket FA for 1st the same year they sign Mauer to a big deal to play C. Two years in, they both have to share time at first and the clubhouse implodes.

Mauer is special and the AL is a place for a Catcher who may need more than half his at bats at a different position.

at daver's request, Let's frontload this B**ch!

by N Oakley on Feb 2, 2010 8:17 AM CST reply actions  

The 10-year thing is definitely in dispute.

Bob Nightengale, a USA Today sports writer just tweeted:

Joe Mauer laughed at reports that he agreed to a 10 year contract with the Twins. No truth, he says.

source

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by daver on Feb 2, 2010 11:57 AM CST reply actions  

I'm betting the stampedes of

water buffalo and lemmings are all started by you prolific tweeters.

at daver's request, Let's frontload this B**ch!

by N Oakley on Feb 2, 2010 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

SHHH!

Don’t tell dtpollitt!

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 2, 2010 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Guilty as charged.

Also: Typhoid, black ice, defective gas pedals.

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by daver on Feb 2, 2010 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

and Al-qaida!

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Feb 2, 2010 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Jeez! What bad economy?

"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004

by ctcoff99 on Feb 2, 2010 12:21 PM CST reply actions  

If true

I bet the Cards aren’t thrilled about it. A new bar got set for top-end players.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Feb 2, 2010 1:04 PM CST reply actions  

Good point

I didn’t think about the impact this would have on Pujols

Also this might make Victor Martinez’s value increase next year when he’s a FA

"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher

by Musicdude10 on Feb 3, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

I was laying in bed last night at about 2 am

Eating Stouffers Mac and Cheese, drunk off my ass, watching Hot Stove on MLB Network.

They were discussing Joe Mauer, and I saw his numbers from 2009 and his career, and I almost shat the bed.

Especially his 2009 numbers – absolutely unbelievable. Even after sleeping it off, I haven’t shaken my newly found man-crush.

"You’re playing a baseball game. You’re not playing Tiddlywinks. There is competition, for God’s sake."— Lou Piniella

by PacificCub on Feb 2, 2010 1:27 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

While I would not have put it as ...

… um, colorfully, as you did, if there is any active player who has a chance to hit .400 for a season, it’s Mauer.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 2, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Pujols and Ichiro are also on that list IMO

"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher

by Musicdude10 on Feb 3, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

It's the offseason

I’ll be back in rare form by Spring Training.

"You’re playing a baseball game. You’re not playing Tiddlywinks. There is competition, for God’s sake."— Lou Piniella

by PacificCub on Feb 2, 2010 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

tmi

Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou

by Cubbie-Tim on Feb 2, 2010 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Twins broadcaster (& future HOFer) Bert Blyleven was the guest host at our local HOF induction meeting last night.

He was telling everyone about the Mauer signing…until Twins hitting coach Joe Vavra got up and cautioned that he had spoken to Ron Gardenhire earlier in the day, who had mentioned nothing about Mauer.

On a Cubs-related sad note, Andy Pafko was also slated to attend as the prime inductee. I spoke with Andy’s brother, who indicated that Andy is in a nursing home in MIchigan and not well. Explains why he missed the Cubs Convention as well. Andy’s a class guy; I wish him the best.

by Cubzwyn on Feb 2, 2010 7:53 PM CST reply actions  

Sorry to hear that about Pafko.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 2, 2010 8:19 PM CST up reply actions  

a pure class act Pafko

Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou

by Cubbie-Tim on Feb 2, 2010 8:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Coolest autograph I ever got was Pafko

Didn’t know much about him when I met him and he talked to me for a minute about himself and the current Cubs (going into the 07 season). Very cool

"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher

by Musicdude10 on Feb 3, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Andy Pafko - the original Topps #1.

MLBMilestone.com - following the numbers to Cooperstown

by D98 on Feb 4, 2010 9:02 AM CST up reply actions  

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