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Wrigley Field Offseason Rehab Work Update

Get rid of the concrete!

This may look like just a dull photo of the Addison St. side of Wrigley Field (taken Saturday, February 6), but there's plenty of history and information here. First, based on this ESPNChicago.com post from Bruce Levine, the removal of the concrete panels has a purpose:

The team also is building a mirrored opening on the back end of the right-field wall with the intention of allowing fans outside of the park to watch Cubs players take batting practice under the right-field stands.

I'm not quite sure how that would work -- but that's apparently what this project is going to accomplish. The concrete panels, according to Ed Hartig, were first installed in 1958, to reduce noise. Not noise from inside the park disturbing the neighborhood, but to reduce outside noise from coming in. (Not sure why that would have been an problem!) According to an article that appeared in the Chicago Tribune article on January 10, 1960, the panels were eventually supposed to cover the entire exterior of the park, but the work was never completed. (Can you imagine how ugly the exterior would be if they had finished?) Now, it's time to get rid of the ugly panels. The same 1960 article, incidentally, says that the seating bowl between the dugouts was completely removed so that new concrete and steel could be laid at that time -- so that area is only 50 years old, not 95.

After the jump, more photos of the scoreboard work, including closeups where you can see the backs of the numbered and team panels and the interior stairways inside the board.

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Piecemeal plan is something I do not like

It doesnt’ seem to me there is a “master plan.” Remove the concrete panels so eyes can fixate further on the chain link fencing? I far prefer the strategy of coming up with a comprehensive reconstruction plan for Wrigley and doing the work in phases and THE RIGHT WAY.

Sorry, but I’m disappointed. THe exterior of Wrigley should be something that is attractive and impressive, not embarassing.

The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.

by BLou on Feb 7, 2010 9:08 AM CST reply actions  

Oh, for heaven's sakes.

You’ll snark about anything, won’t you?

What is it you need, a 100-page document with a plan personally delivered to you? Just what is “the right way”? Got any thoughts about that? Or would you rather just criticize? (I already know the answers to those, since you won’t reply.)

This is just first-step cosmetic work, a “phase”, as you put it.. The Cubs plan to have Wrigley renovated by 2014. Sorry it’s not going fast enough for you.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 7, 2010 9:25 AM CST up reply actions  

I CALLED IT!

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Feb 7, 2010 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Called what, exactly?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 7, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

What do you win?

Now only 12,859 on the "Cubs Season Tickets Waiting List"...

by Zeke on Feb 7, 2010 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

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by AndrewJStone on Feb 7, 2010 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Is that for Zeke, or is that what Drew wins?

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by Shanghai Badger on Feb 7, 2010 10:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not worthy of a gold star...

I’m too humble…

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by Zeke on Feb 8, 2010 5:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Ugly Ugly

Agreed. The outside of Wrigley is a pretty ugly building.

The inside is neat, but I don’t hold that much of a special bond with the place, so they can gut it all as far as I’m concerned.

by Contempt on Feb 7, 2010 9:30 AM CST up reply actions  

How do you know that they don't have a comprehensive reconstruction plan?

Maybe they are doing it THE RIGHT WAY and they just didn’t think it was necessary to tell you about their “master plan.”

"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Feb 7, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

You're right. The whole thing should have been done by now.

After all, it should only take a few hours, right?

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

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by Shanghai Badger on Feb 7, 2010 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

At most.

"Only a mediocre person is always at his best." ~W. Somerset Maugham

by Goodie1969 on Feb 7, 2010 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Absolute insanity!!!

Have Ricketts no brain?? Why in God’s name did he not hire 7,000 Amish men to “raise” Wrigley field in the span of a week? I think Rickett’s should be ordered by the league to sell the team immediately for not passing his plans over the desk of BLou before starting!

First of all, I really could care less if the outside of the stadium is ugly. What I do care is if the quality of the 25 men that call Wrigley home is ugly. Why bitch about some bricks and concrete?

Second, I’m not sure if this has been proposed but I would like the members of BCB to run a month long test. I think we should mandate a zero response to BLou rule. If nobody replies, you steal his thunder. Everyone just ignore him. That will cause him more anguish than anything.

Its funny, you spend most of your life gripping a baseball. And in the end, its almost always the other way around.

by TCobb1911 on Feb 7, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

IIRC Lambeau was done in a similar manner to how WF is

and it came out fine with great reviews.

(note not with the Amish, but small pieces while still playing home games there)

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by Cubbie-Tim on Feb 7, 2010 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

great pictures, great info, Al...

Really enjoying this series…

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by carmen_fanzone on Feb 7, 2010 9:28 AM CST reply actions  

Pissing away money in the short-term

Better to adopt a full-scale master plan for reconstruction, then start following it in multi-year phase. If it means living with the concrete panels for a few more seasons, then so be it. Especially when the “option” if glorious chain link fence accenting the Captain Morgan Pancake House horribly appended to the Addison Street facade.

The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.

by BLou on Feb 7, 2010 9:29 AM CST reply actions  

How do you know...

… this isn’t the first step of a “full-scale master plan for reconstruction”?

You don’t.

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by AndrewJStone on Feb 7, 2010 9:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.

Just because nothing has been announced, doesn’t mean there isn’t a plan.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 7, 2010 9:38 AM CST up reply actions  

So you don't like:

the team, ownership, ballpark, fans, or blogs for that matter

Why don’t you do us all a favor and leave.

Start Sean Marshall!!

by Chanman25 on Feb 7, 2010 9:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh my God

You must be an unhappy person 24/7. I feel bad for you. I’m still waiting for the Hawks trade for a defenseman Neidermeyer? At least I am able to come up with a name.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Feb 7, 2010 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

How many times do you think Tom Ricketts has done anything half assed in his life?

…..maybe when he got his MBA from Univ of Chicago? Or when he built his own business from scratch?

by JB 23 on Feb 7, 2010 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

That's great, but when are they going to build a glass cube with ventilation for smokers?

Seriously, they need a place where people can smoke without breaking the law, i.e. smoking on the ramps, bathrooms, etc.

by chilango2 on Feb 7, 2010 9:41 AM CST reply actions  

Don't get me started.

Seriously, people who smoke can do without for three hours.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 7, 2010 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

Your choosing to enter into Wrigley Field knowing that it is private and that they can set rules on smoking.

Start Sean Marshall!!

by Chanman25 on Feb 7, 2010 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, that's not exactly true.

Smoking is banned at Wrigley by state law.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 7, 2010 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Wrigley, Soldier Field, places of that nature are technically designated "indoor venues"...

… and thus must abide by the same smoking rules as local bars: 15 feet away from the doors.

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by AndrewJStone on Feb 7, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

So can people who drink.

Just my two cents.

"Only a mediocre person is always at his best." ~W. Somerset Maugham

by Goodie1969 on Feb 7, 2010 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

I can do without drinking for 3 hours

I do without at Work. Then I go to Wrigley Field and drink for 3 hours. Then I leave Wrigley Field and stop drinking.

Good enough for you?

by RiskyBusiness on Feb 7, 2010 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not saying they should.

I’m just saying they can.

I’m not anti-alcohol. I enjoy a drink every now and then, sometimes at the game. But a little perspective would be nice from the anti-smoking crusaders once in a while.

The simple fact is that the problem people have with cigarettes is that they have an odor which many find unpleasant. If that’s you, fine. I wouldn’t blow it in your face out of courtesy. People want to assert some imaginary right to not be offended. I’m just saying if that’s the precedent, I’m offended by beer-fuelled, mouth-breathing louts who like nothing more than the sound of their own profane rants and the occasional throwing of garbage on the field of play. Where’s my protection against being offended by these jackasses?

If cigarettes emitted odorless CO, you’d be hard-pressed to find any secondhand smoke hysteria anywhere, and I’ll never be convinced otherwise. In an outdoor venue with designated smoking areas, there would be equal or less risk to the general public from the secondhand cigarette smoke CO emissions than from the giant tour buses which sit idling by the curb on Addison for three hours.

"Only a mediocre person is always at his best." ~W. Somerset Maugham

by Goodie1969 on Feb 7, 2010 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Anti-Smoking is an easy target

Especially for politicians looking to say something. I grew up with my dad smoking Parliament cigarettes so I don’t go off on the second-hand smoke thing.

But there appear to be actual health risk from second-hand smoke. And there are health risk from drunk driving. Enough reported health risk and public pressure and then you get a law and a chest-puffing politicians.

Unfortunately, alcohol does make some people moronic asses. The “ugly fan” is the one part of Wrigley that I don’t like.

Truthfully, my biggest beef with smoking is the trash. Smoking a cigarette does not entitle someone to litter. Some smokers need to learn to put out their butt, pick it up, and throw it away.

by RiskyBusiness on Feb 7, 2010 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Also a good point
Truthfully, my biggest beef with smoking is the trash. Smoking a cigarette does not entitle someone to litter. Some smokers need to learn to put out their butt, pick it up, and throw it away.

My sister had a friend years ago who threw a cigarette out her car window, and it blew into the back seat and started a fire. No one was hurt, and I found the story hilarious – that’s what you get for throwing your trash out on the road. Especially burning trash.

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by Shanghai Badger on Feb 7, 2010 2:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm with you on the trash.

Way too many flickers out there.

"Only a mediocre person is always at his best." ~W. Somerset Maugham

by Goodie1969 on Feb 7, 2010 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

why do smokers or people against drinking always want to connect drinking with smoking?

The fumes from a beer don’t get me drunk but second hand smoke has been shown to cause lots of problems.

by LT on Feb 7, 2010 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

That's Classic
The fumes from a beer don’t get me drunk

Oh, but if only they could!

by RiskyBusiness on Feb 7, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Things you'll likely never hear:

“Man, normally I never would’ve slept with that chick but I was so buzzed on nicotine, I didn’t know what I was doing.”

“Smells like cigarette smoke in this car. How many have you had tonight? Would you step out of the car please?”

“I had to call off work yesterday because I smoked way too many cigarettes the night before.”

“Three people were killed tonight in an accident on I-294 near DesPlaines. Investigators say cigarettes may have been a factor.”

“Cubs fans aren’t real baseball fans. They just go to the park to smoke cigarettes. It’s the world’s largest ashtray.”

"Only a mediocre person is always at his best." ~W. Somerset Maugham

by Goodie1969 on Feb 7, 2010 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

You raise interesting points

I enjoy an adult beverage or two at the ballpark, and I don’t smoke. However, I see your side of this. The second hand smoke is clearly the driver, but the way that I look at this is – either outlaw tobacco, or allow businesses to decide for themselves if they want to allow smoking. Restauranteurs don’t go into business to provide people places to go smoke-free, they go into business to make money.

I’ll stop there, because we’re getting close to discussing politics, but that drives me nuts.

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by Shanghai Badger on Feb 7, 2010 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree, and it's really hard not to be political

about it since it’s a legislative mandate on Wrigley Field that they place these restrictions on smoking. They don’t really have a choice in the matter. But yeah, I guess it’s best just to leave it at that.

"Only a mediocre person is always at his best." ~W. Somerset Maugham

by Goodie1969 on Feb 7, 2010 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, and agreed on the boorish drunks

That’s where security needs to be stepped up. Maybe that’s part of the 2010 improvements.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Feb 7, 2010 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

How silly of me.

You are right. These are all good arguments that smoking is better than drinking. Let anyone smoke whenever and wherever they want. The point is that it is proven that second hand smoke is bad for everyone’s health.

Only about 20% of the adult population smokes so that means they are in the minority. They might want to get used to the fact that it is going to be even harder for them to smoke in the future.

by LT on Feb 7, 2010 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Apparently I liked the word "something".

Now only 12,859 on the "Cubs Season Tickets Waiting List"...

by Zeke on Feb 7, 2010 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.

Turn it green.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 7, 2010 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Rec'd

- Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
- Germans?
- Forget it, he's rolling.

by Endrick on Feb 7, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

As far as smoking goes, the Cubs are just following Chicago's law.

Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think the Cubs outlawed smoking totally until Chicago outlawed it in public places.

by Rick B on Feb 7, 2010 9:59 AM CST reply actions  

Chicago's law says smoking in public bathrooms is OK?

Every time I go to a game at Wrigley, I get a very healthy dose of second-hand smoke when I use the facilities.

It ALMOST makes me understand the behavior of two guys who were sitting behind us at an Opening Day at old Tiger stadium about 30 years ago. We were sitting in the second to the last row of the upper deck in RF. They were in the last row. When they had to take a leak, they turned around, unzipped and peed on the back wall of the ballpark. Seriously.

I stopped going to Opening Day games in Detroit after that. :-P

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by Zeke on Feb 7, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

It's actually a state law.

And it needs to be better enforced by Wrigley security. They’ve posted signs, but — well, you know how much good that does.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 7, 2010 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Which is also a problem...

… when you crash into someone going OUT the IN door.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 7, 2010 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh, true. No arguments. That door (flow) monitoring IS needed.

Well, “flow”, so to speak of course…

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by Zeke on Feb 7, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

As far as I understand the law,

no one can smoke indoors, even if it’s a private building where the general public is allowed to enter. Some argument came up when the law was passed regarding smoking at the sports facilities, because they’re outside and more than 15 feet away from entry doors. But that’s just silly.

I just believe a designated smoking area would go a long way to appease all customers.

by chilango2 on Feb 7, 2010 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

I respectfully disagree.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 7, 2010 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

You're disgusted by d-bags smoking on the bleachers aisle, and I agree.

What I’m saying is that if they have an enclosed space, people who don’t like smoke will have a much stronger argument when they spot a smoker breaking State law, as well as the building owner’s regulation.

by chilango2 on Feb 7, 2010 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Couple things.

First, there’s really no space at Wrigley for such a place. Let’s not dive into the reasons why a smoker can’t just resist for three hours.

If you want to know more about my feelings in this matter, email me privately. I don’t want to get into it further here.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 7, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

most smokers

can’t resist for three hours because they’re drinking.
former smoker for the record

by KyCubsFan on Feb 7, 2010 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed

hence why most bars now have a patio since you cant smoke inside (in most cities). another former smoker (somehow I quit during the 2009 Cubs season without falling back) 10 months removed

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by Cubbie-Tim on Feb 7, 2010 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Well you can always do this...

- Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
- Germans?
- Forget it, he's rolling.

by Endrick on Feb 7, 2010 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Then you wind up like this.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 7, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

If they want more people to see the Cubs hit batting practice

Why don’t they open up the doors a little bit earlier? I habitually go in right when the doors open, and we get to watch the last group of Cubs hit before they go in. Derrek Lee, Aramis Ramirez, and others are usually nowhere to be found. They could make more on food and alcohol sales which could help them with spending more money on the payroll, since they are so poor.

by TheGrinch13 on Feb 7, 2010 10:16 AM CST reply actions  

The Cubs already open the park earlier than almost every other team.

Most teams open 90 minutes before game time. The Cubs open two hours before. Any larger dollars made by, say, opening 30 minutes earlier would be offset by the extra money they’d have to pay the employees.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 7, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

I can't see the pictures

I just see a box with a red x in them. Does anybody have any idea if I need to change a setting or something to see them?

One day, the dream will come true.

by brianp88 on Feb 7, 2010 10:18 AM CST reply actions  

What OS/browser are you using?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 7, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

windows vista, internet explorer.

does that help?

One day, the dream will come true.

by brianp88 on Feb 7, 2010 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

hey now it's working

computer has a mind of it’s own.

One day, the dream will come true.

by brianp88 on Feb 7, 2010 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Glad to hear it.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 7, 2010 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Um...

… not really, although I’d suggest you download Firefox or Google Chrome and try one of those. This is the first I’ve heard of a problem like this seeing photos here.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 7, 2010 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not getting any pictures either.

I’m on Firefox. It’s the first time it’s happened. I have a link in blue at the top that says “Get rid of the concrete!” which goes to the shot of the Addison side looking east. But I’m getting none of the other pix. No red X’s, either.

One of Lee Elia's 15%

by waiting4cubs on Feb 7, 2010 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I reloaded the page twice and it worked

on the second try. Strange, though.

One of Lee Elia's 15%

by waiting4cubs on Feb 7, 2010 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

That's really strange.

I posted these photos the same way I post all the others.

If anyone else is having this issue, try reloading the page a few times.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 7, 2010 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Sometimes if I see a red X

I can right click on the X and go to “show picture” and then I can see it. Sometimes that still doesn’t work though.

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by katie casey on Feb 7, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Think about it, Al.

Except when Banks came to bat there probably was more noise outside than inside in the late 50s and early 60s. Two people talking on Addison could have drown out the crowd “noise” on a weekday in April. Combine that with those crazy kids and their hot rods blasting their rock-and-roll music and you can see why the 900 fans inside would have trouble concentrating.

Now if the panels could drown out the sound of drumming from outside, I’d be all for them even as butt-ugly as they make the exterior of the park look.

by the nth on Feb 7, 2010 10:40 AM CST reply actions  

I just can't picture hot rods playing loud rock & roll music...

… on a sunny weekday afternoon on Addison St. in 1958.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 7, 2010 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Never really thought about it...

…since I usually only make it up for a couple of games a year, but if you are up in the terrace reserved on the first base side, the street is literally right behind you. Addison is a pretty busy thoroughfare and you really do get alot of noise from outside the park…even with the panels in place and with the general crowd noise. The third base side is a little farther removed from the street, so it’s probably never really been an issue. I’m not saying keep the panels, but some sort of buffer probably wouldn’t be a bad thing.

by NashCub on Feb 7, 2010 11:59 PM CST up reply actions  

DRUM BOYS!

Now i know why the put the damn things up. The drum boys!

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by AndrewJStone on Feb 8, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

The bucket boys?

It doesn’t help. You can hear those things blocks away.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 8, 2010 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

After all the panels are removed

some green paint could go a long way to making Wrigley look better. The look on the bleachers with the green on steel beams takes away the look of the chain link. I also like the brick look on the outside of the bleachers. I would think more of this all the way around the park would enhance it’s look.

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Feb 7, 2010 10:53 AM CST reply actions  

Was just gonna say that...

Fenway looks wonderful that way…

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by SackMan on Feb 9, 2010 8:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, let's hope some of these ideas

are eventually incorporated into the re-habbing of the park. It’s nice to see how quickly the Ricketts are bringing change. Obviously, it’s not fast enough for some who want eveything NOW.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Feb 7, 2010 11:48 AM CST reply actions  

True dat.

To say nothing of someone (You know who you are!) who seems to think any and all decisions made relative to any aspect of the Cubs, from baseball operations to the color of the paint on the scoreboard’s internal steps, ought to be run through him because, after all, he knows far more than any other living, breathing human about such matters.

Me? I dislike my own run-on sentences sometimes. Other than that, I’ll leave it to the pros. I have a life.

by MN exile on Feb 7, 2010 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm ecstatic with these changes.

Gutting the kitchen, overhauling the players’ lounge – some of these things should have been done decades ago. Eventually, yes, there are going to have to be some massive, massive changes. But there’s no way that can happen before mid-April.

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by D98 on Feb 10, 2010 7:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Good News

This is great news. In the last decade, the Tribune Co. put money into the park if it paid off financially in the short-term (bleacher reconstruction, Captain Morgan’s…). They were reluctant to pour money and energy into the routine or long term stuff (fixing the upper deck concrete so the netting is not needed, replace the rusting scoreboard panels…). Perhaps we’re seeing the first steps towards treating the park like the treasure it is and ensuring that it stands for decades to come.

by FrostyMalt on Feb 7, 2010 1:01 PM CST reply actions  

Exactly.

BTW, love your user name.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 7, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Is the visitors' clubhouse still above the ticket booths on Addison?

Unfortunately, my visits to Wrigley run about once per decade, so that Captain Morgan Plaza is news to me. In the 50’s and 60’s, that ’s where visiting teams would walk to and from the charter bus or taxis waiting on Addison.

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by ernaga on Feb 7, 2010 1:01 PM CST reply actions  

Yes, that's where the visitors clubhouse is.

Until the 1970’s, they used to have to walk through a fenced-off catwalk that was exposed to the concourse, so fans could see — and heckle — visiting players.

Sometimes they’d sit there and talk with fans during rain delays.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 7, 2010 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I remember that walkway.

And also watching visiting football players walk across it. Bear fans were merciless to them.

One of Lee Elia's 15%

by waiting4cubs on Feb 7, 2010 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Isn't that walkway still there...

…but covered by a tarp on the inside you can’t see through? I went on a Wrigley Field tour in 2009 and that is how we gained access to the visitors’ clubhouse.

by AlSpangler on Feb 7, 2010 5:14 PM CST up reply actions  

It should still be there, covered by a tarp as you describe

I still remember Dick Williams….first year as manager of the Montreal Expos…getting booed as he made the walk over the concourse to the clubhouse….he was grinning from ear to ear as he made a “#1” sign to the crowd….after the Cubs lost to the Expos.

Les Expos were 75-87 that year, so I’m not so sure what he was happy about…

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Feb 7, 2010 9:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Most visitors coming down those stairs were generous with pre and post-game autographs,

especially on teams where the big stars would sign. Musial & Schoendienst; Reese & Snider; Groat & Clemente, Robinson & Pinson; Ashburn & Del Ennis; and, of course, Banks, Williams & Santo were all the best at talking with kids and signing scorecards, almost obligating their teammates to do the same. I wonder how the players of today handle requests from kids at the ballpark. I imagine security must be tight.

"C'mon Freeman, throw the ball somewhere!" Brickhouse, incensed, 5/15/58

"Welcome to Wrigley Field, Mr. Bah-oo-tah!" Brickhouse, rubbing it in, 7/6/60

by ernaga on Feb 7, 2010 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Some players still do sign at the players parking lot on Waveland.

That will change when they build the Triangle Building — player parking will likely be indoors and maybe underground.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 7, 2010 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Cool story

Wrigley Field is a great ballpark on the inside, however I’ve always thought that in my life the outside looked unfinished and unimpressive.

Good to hear that the team owners are investing in the field, inside and out.

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Feb 7, 2010 1:59 PM CST reply actions  

For as much cash as the Trib spent on maintaining the place, they didn't do the outside justice

Hell, they didn’t even paint as often as they should have.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

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by Shanghai Badger on Feb 7, 2010 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Good point.

In the end though, the inside is what matters.

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Feb 7, 2010 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

But, as you said, good thing new ownership is investing in both the team and the park.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 7, 2010 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

See? We can get along!

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

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by Shanghai Badger on Feb 7, 2010 10:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Removing those panels...

does not have anything to do with being able to watch batting practice. I am sure that the batting practice viewing will be done where the current “knothole” is, it could be expanded but how would anybody be able to watch batting practice from outside the park on the Addison side of the building.

by Imtrejo on Feb 7, 2010 3:32 PM CST reply actions  

people flipping about this being done piece by piece

might want to read this artcle about Renovating Lambeau Field

Mention Lambeau Field and some die-hard football fans’ eyes begin to glaze over. The revered NFL stadium tops the list as Holy Grail for some. Today, that Holy Grail is undergoing a $295 million facelift. Rice Engineering Inc. of Luxemburg, Wis., surveyor Kip Inman shares his own story of working on Mecca.

FYI the renovations took place while the Packers were still actively playing there and those I know who are Packer ST holders, or hold stock in the team have nothing but great things to say about how it was done and the end result. Basically, relax and see what happens in the end before flipping a lid over it being done piece by piece

Wait for it....POUND SAND Without me this board is Al Yellon talking to himself.....................by BLou

by Cubbie-Tim on Feb 7, 2010 4:21 PM CST reply actions  

Possible clarification

The Bruce Levine article Al cited says:

….with the intention of allowing fans outside of the park to watch Cubs players take batting practice under the right-field stands.

So perhaps the “mirrored opening” is a window on the Sheffield bleacher wall (north of the knothole) that woud allow those outside the park to watch players in the batting cage (located under the right field bleachers). They wouldn’t be able to see the field from such a window.

by AlSpangler on Feb 7, 2010 5:31 PM CST reply actions  

A possible reason for the panels.

Al, I know the article said the panels were put up to keep outside noises out. But that was in the days when reporters regurgitated any crap the teams tossed at them. I’m willing to bet they put the panels up to keep the inside noise in. That way those “crowds” of 900 would sound a little louder and bigger to TV viewers. Whaddya think?

We have to demand more!

by copingwiththecubs on Feb 7, 2010 7:00 PM CST reply actions  

Who knows?

Most likely, everyone involved in that decision is deceased now, so we’ll never know for sure.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 8, 2010 7:45 AM CST up reply actions  

They're starting to go. Drove by yesterday and

am happy to hear the work is part of a plan to eliminate the cold war era/eastern bloc concrete panels.

at daver's request, Let's frontload this B**ch!

by N Oakley on Feb 8, 2010 8:35 AM CST up reply actions  

and it's chain link fence instead?

What’s going up in place of the panels…

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Feb 8, 2010 9:31 AM CST up reply actions  

fishtanks

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Feb 8, 2010 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

dirty pictures


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by eths on Feb 8, 2010 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

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by AndrewJStone on Feb 8, 2010 5:24 PM CST up reply actions  

That's not a dirty picture.

It’s a picture of dirt.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 8, 2010 7:40 PM CST up reply actions  

How's this?

"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Feb 9, 2010 8:25 AM CST up reply actions  

That's a cartoon with a drawing of dirt.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 9, 2010 9:05 AM CST up reply actions  

alright Mr. Literalist...

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Feb 9, 2010 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

You are SO asking for it...

and let the record show that I have NOT given it to you.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Feb 9, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Now I'm disappointed.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 9, 2010 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Now you know how my wife feels.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Feb 9, 2010 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

TMI

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 9, 2010 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

looks like some very nice progress

is being made. only a few days until SPRING TRAINING!

by brian custer on Feb 8, 2010 12:24 AM CST reply actions  

i thought this was interesting
As previously reported here, ownership has created a new 80-seat lounge/restaurant in the area where the last six sky boxes were located, going north on the third-base line. The seats will be sold to corporations and people who have been on a waiting list for sky boxes. The area will feature a lounge and food stations.

---AC 00 00 00 - Believe

by mjk83 on Feb 8, 2010 8:43 AM CST reply actions  

I wonder...

how much this will brighten up the concourses and also if the playing field temperature will be affected. Did these concrete blocks act as a wind shield?

I’m trying to remember if those concrete panels backed the uppermost lower or upper deck seats…

by PointSpecial on Feb 9, 2010 4:03 PM CST reply actions  

It's mostly behind the lower deck.

Doubtful that it will have any wind effect. There are no panels on the LF side, which is where most of the wind effect is (other than the wind blowing in).

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Feb 9, 2010 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

OT-I like your profile image.

And your name-any chance you are from Steven’s Point?

"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Feb 10, 2010 8:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Wonder what the players think?

I bet they won’t like being able to be seen while taking BP.

Haven’t been on BCB for 2 or 3 weeks, feels good to be back!

Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air...

by slocs55 on Feb 9, 2010 7:07 PM CST reply actions  

At Petco Park,

The “Sony Club” (those are seats in the first 10 rows behind the plate) has access to a special bar and restaurant hidden from the public’s view — this restaurant’s east wall is essentially — a complete view into the Padres batting cage.

This restaurant, when full — probably holds 200 or so. A bit more exclusive than what the Cubs have in mind.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Feb 10, 2010 4:05 PM CST reply actions  

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