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How Twitter Is Ruining Spring Training

If journalism -- as an old saying goes -- is the first draft of history, then what is Twitter? Scrunched-up sticky notes left on a wall somewhere?

Don't get me wrong. This isn't a "get off my lawn" post. I like Twitter (unlike some here). I'm on Twitter, and if you follow my tweets, you know that most of them wind up either being information on when BCB posts are up, or retweets of informational bits thrown out by the various beat reporters with news about the Cubs.

And the latter is where spring training is getting ruined. (This is going to be a lot longer than 140 characters, for you Twitter aficionados.)

Star-divide

There's nothing you're getting through the tweets of Carrie Muskat, Gordon Wittenmyer of the Sun-Times, and others, that they wouldn't have written about in previous spring trainings.

The difference is the 24/7, in-your-face nature of Twitter. When Gordo tweeted about Ryan Theriot being hit on the hand by Rafael Dolis last week, all of a sudden the blogosphere was worried! And Gordo's tweet asked "Castro ready?", as if a HBP in BP in February would put Theriot out for the season. (I suppose some naysayers were thinking, "Hope so!") And when he tweeted about Angel Guzman being "shut down" for some minor shoulder discomfort, that resulted in this 80-comment BCB FanShot practically begging Jim Hendry to sign Kiko Calero. OK, not "practically" begging -- actually begging, even though Calero may have the same kind of shoulder issues that Guzman might.

Or might not -- as Gordo wrote in this Sun-Times article the day after that tweet:

The Cubs' medical staff seems optimistic that the shoulder won't cost Guzman more than a few days, and that should allow the staff's best reliever of 2009 to open the season on time.

"He's not seeing a doctor or anything like that," said general manager Jim Hendry, who called it a precautionary move.

Further, this Muskat tweet on Sunday made it sound like the whole thing was overblown:

#cubs Angel Guzman threw 25-30 pitches from 45 feet to test his right shoulder and said he felt good. He'll throw again Monday

But when Carrie tweeted on Friday about Ted Lilly's fever that set him back a few days, panicked BCB'ers posted this FanShot titled "It's not even March, and the Cubs are already dropping like flies" and even suggested by FanPost that the Cubs should sign 43-year-old John Smoltz because of some perceived issue in the starting rotation.

Look -- Twitter is definitely a useful tool to get news about our favorite team, and in fact, that's one of the purposes of this site, to consolidate all that information in one place. Some tweets, like this one from Carrie Muskat that I retweeted yesterday, are useful information:

Randy Wells will start #cubs Cactus League opener Thursday vs #athletics at HoHoKam, and be followed by Marshall, Mathes, Parisi and Caridad

But do I really need to know that Ozzie Guillen had two GPS stolen from his garage in Glendale, Arizona? In general, I believe the relentless, breathless nature of Twitter is spoiling one of the best things about spring training:

Optimism.

All of you know that I am optimistic by nature. That doesn't mean I don't understand and accept the flaws that are part of the 2010 Cubs. Is this a juggernaut team that will blow through the National League during the regular season? No, it's not, and the last time that happened, two years ago, it came to a screeching halt as soon as the calendar turned to October.

I do, however, think Jim Hendry has made some positive moves to correct the mistakes he made last offseason. And spring training -- especially before a single game has been played -- should be a time of hope and renewal, especially since those of us who live in the Midwest and Northeast have been under a constant dump of snow that only now, as March begins, may begin to melt. We need to feel like this baseball season is something to enjoy, not to sit at our computers and smartphones for the latest tweet signaling disaster for the Cubs. If Ted Lilly is under the weather 36 days before Opening Day, it does NOT mean the Cubs have to rush out and sign Pedro Martinez or Braden Looper, or if Angel Guzman has a shoulder owie that won't even cause a doctor to look at it, to rush to trade for Jason Frasor or Luke Gregerson, when they might have the solutions to the latter issue (bullpen depth) right in camp.

So relax a little. All is not yet lost. Twitter is a good thing -- when used and viewed properly. It's nice to get information on a several-times-a-day basis (example: this Carrie Muskat tweet from yesterday talking about rain interrupting scheduled drills.) But don't let a 140-character message destroy what we should be enjoying at this time of year: the return of baseball, spring, hope and optimism.

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that is so clever and cute....excellent katie! rec'd

baseball.........is Kool Aid the remedy, or the cause of my desire for it

by cooliogirl47 on Mar 1, 2010 8:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Awww.

I love spring training. And Bambi!!!

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on Mar 1, 2010 6:29 PM CST up reply actions  

excellent excellent post Al....

I feel the exact same way when I see everyone flipping out on these tweets (follow me @ctinsley12) 140 characters, quick and to the point on info regarding our team, everyone tries to twist and turn a real reporters tweets into something its not and then meltdown occurs and spreads like a California wild fire. Couldn’t agree with you more.

Go Cubs. Go Irish.

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by ctinsley12bsu on Mar 1, 2010 8:12 AM CST reply actions  

play the tele-phone game, that is what Twitter is in this regards

human nature

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Mar 1, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions  

I dropped most of those I follow

and I’m down to BCB. That’s enough for me, call me old fashioned but I would rather read it here. As I typed this it made me think how old fashioned the newspaper business is. Anything in the paper is a couple days older than a tweet. Times have changed, at least I have a choice how to change with them.

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Mar 1, 2010 8:16 AM CST reply actions  

It took me a long time to get the blog thing ...

not that I really get it now. I’m trying to understand the benefits of Twitter, and trying to tweet now and then — but “retweet”? OMG! I’ll need to work up the courage to try that some day. The maintenance alone is crazy. I go to Twitter and find I gotta block a bunch of followers of dubious repute and intent before I can filter through to the ones I’m interested in. Facebook isn’t much better. I don’t need to know all this stuff this quickly. Who am I gonna impress? So I find myself checking my favorite blogs, cubs.com, and the beat reporters when I happen to be on the computer anyway. Let the news flashes sit and breathe for a couple of hours and then hopefully someone will report what’s going on with some perspective and thoughtfulness.

One of Lee Elia's 15%

by waiting4cubs on Mar 1, 2010 8:37 AM CST up reply actions  

funny

“call me old fashioned but I would rather read it " on a blog. Hilarious.

That said, I love twitter though certainly things can get overblown. The good news is it will be old news in 2 hours. By the time I read it in the paper tomorrow it will seem like last week.

by MikeJ on Mar 1, 2010 9:15 AM CST up reply actions  

goal 4 this post

Every comment must be 140 ch or less. You too Dan. Poor Ivy Walls…
Why isn’t BLou on Tw? Guess hitting hack is only 18 chs

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Mar 1, 2010 8:29 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

+1 ballhawk

that made me giggle.

"I cherish this dream I had as a little kid to play baseball,'' Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 1, 2010 8:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Saw a great poster the other day.

It had a picture of Michael J. Fox and said “Determined to outfox Parkinson’s-Optimism-Pass it on”.

Al, I love your optimistic take on things. Keep it up.

"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Mar 1, 2010 8:36 AM CST reply actions  

you gotta be here!

may addition by subtraction be real

by N Oakley on Mar 1, 2010 8:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Agree

Great post. If you don’t realize that things like Guzman’s shoulder and Lilly’s fever every freaking spring, why are you paying such close attention this year?

(Although to be fair to Twitter, last year it would have been blog posts by the beat writers. And the year before that, it would have been late afternoon stories filed and posted early on newspaper websites. You probably have to go back a few years before you’d find these “stories” buried deep in a once-every-two-or-three-days spring camp update)

But get off of my lawn anyway.

by JohnM on Mar 1, 2010 8:40 AM CST reply actions  

Kanye says:

George Bush hates Twitter.

As do I.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Mar 1, 2010 8:56 AM CST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

I actually agree with Al's main thesis here.

You should not let Twitter – or any information medium – dampen your enthusiasm for the return of baseball. I’ve found Twitter to be a great tool for driving enormous amounts of very timely information to my attention – and getting it to me much more quickly than any one Web site could. But I’ve also learned not to overreact to any “breaking news” item I read on Twitter, because it could easily be revised or refuted within minutes or hours.

That said, I don’t quite see how Ozzie’s tweets are hurting anyone’s optimism. They’re either intentionally or unintentionally hilarious – just like Ozzie himself. And I don’t think the John Smoltz thing has anything to do with Twitter – he’s just a high-profile name who’s still out there. I also still think Smoltz’s usefulness to the Cubs would be much less as a starter than as a set-up guy/backup closer for Marmol. But I digress…

Twitter is simply a tool. Use the tool – don’t let it use you.

Follow me on Twitter here and catch my twice-weekly Cubs news updates here.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 1, 2010 9:13 AM CST reply actions  

The Ozzie link was mainly a "rolling eyes heavenward" moment.

However, your main point:

You should not let Twitter – or any information medium – dampen your enthusiasm for the return of baseball. I’ve found Twitter to be a great tool for driving enormous amounts of very timely information to my attention – and getting it to me much more quickly than any one Web site could. But I’ve also learned not to overreact to any "breaking news" item I read on Twitter, because it could easily be revised or refuted within minutes or hours.

… is exactly what I was trying to say.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2010 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

It'll be interesting to see...

…if Ozzie keeps tweeting during the regular season. I kinda doubt it. My guess is Twitter is just a shiny, new toy he’s playing with in spring training.

Follow me on Twitter here and catch my twice-weekly Cubs news updates here.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 1, 2010 9:40 AM CST up reply actions  

No, I assume he'll continue to play during the season.

After a rugged loss, he’ll tweet something profound like “picked up dry cleaning on my way home,” or “had breakfast this morning at _______, it was awesome.”

may addition by subtraction be real

by N Oakley on Mar 1, 2010 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm on it.

Follow me on Twitter here and catch my twice-weekly Cubs news updates here.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 1, 2010 9:34 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?

by BleedsbluinMI on Mar 1, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Green it.

Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.

by Ryno Runner on Mar 1, 2010 6:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I tought I taw a tweetie bird

"Look, what do you want me to do?"

by Zeke on Mar 1, 2010 9:44 AM CST reply actions  

But if the Cubs don't sign any of those guys, how will they ever win in March?

Because Spring Training records are a clear harbinger of things to come April-October.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Mar 1, 2010 9:58 AM CST reply actions  

Thanks for proving my point.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

I try.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Mar 1, 2010 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

There is a reason Editors exist

Tweeter will continue to prove this. Given a keyboard many people can quickly show their lack of intelligence

"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver

by RiskyBusiness on Mar 1, 2010 10:08 AM CST reply actions  

BRAVO!

Internet + Keyboard + 9 year old mentality = we’re all a little dumber

Personally, i do not use twitter, i looked into it and did not enjoy it, i enjoy reading full articles, not short blurbs that can cause a stir and make a mountain out of a mole hill.

~Ronald Reagan has held the two most demeaning jobs in the country; President of the United States and radio broadcaster for the Chicago Cubs~ George F. Will

by unretrofied93 on Mar 1, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks and I respect from someone quoting George Will

Reading Men At Work now.

"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver

by RiskyBusiness on Mar 1, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

♪♫ Who can it be now? ♪♫

Follow me on Twitter here and catch my twice-weekly Cubs news updates here.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 1, 2010 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Theme Song when he starts a game

Hungry Like The Wolf

"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver

by RiskyBusiness on Mar 1, 2010 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Hopefully followed by ♪♫ Will the Wolf survive? ♪♫...

…after the Cubs light him up for 8 runs.

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by dat cubfan daver on Mar 1, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

You know.

lost in here somewhere is a much more subtle dialogue that I’d be interested to see you expand on, as I don’t quite see the correlation between tweeting, and the Cubs prospects for a season. What exactly is your thesis? That tweeting makes ledge jumpers jump quicker? That it creates more ledge jumpers?

You say the point is optimism, but new technologies haven’t deterred fan interest over the last decade, and if anything, has actually increased it. Fans love that level of access, they love the debate that it inspires, and they love the bi-lateral communication that it allows. What’s really interesting is that what really make Bleed Cubbie Blue what it is is the forums. Members here in many instances repost news here almost immediately on baseball matters of the day. Strange that you’d take umbrage to a technology that basically does the same, while leveraging that very behavior behind it to enhance your success.

Fans aren’t going to stop hoping for the very best for their respective teams because of a few tweets in February. They’re just going to go through a few more of their own personal emotional roller coasters, which for me is neither here nor there.

by Damen Jackson on Mar 1, 2010 10:15 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

I hope you're right when you say...
Fans aren’t going to stop hoping for the very best for their respective teams because of a few tweets in February.

And yet, as I said, some tweets about Ted Lilly and Angel Guzman — which turned out to be no big deal — caused a great deal of angst on this site. Had those stories gotten some context before they were made public, or details, maybe people would haven’t made such a big deal about them.

I don’t necessarily think Twitter has made ledge jumping worse, or created more ledge jumpers — but it has certainly caused a lot more grumbling a lot earlier than necessary.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

So what?

Those are the short-term vacillations of the emotionally attached. They’re usually over it within a day, and move on. You think anybody is trading their season tickets in because Muskat is tweeting that the Cubs can’t find bullpen help? Nope. We bitch, then hope that we’re wrong about our opinions, and move on.

by Damen Jackson on Mar 1, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

But...

If there is someone so inclined, please feel free to contact me at my Cubbie Nation e-mail address.:)

by Damen Jackson on Mar 1, 2010 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

The problem is....

You only get bits and pieces in 140 characters so the message seems like it’s of dire importance…. you don’t get the FULL story until later tweets or until articles or blog posts are up.

I’m starting to find it annoying when someone tweets from spring training and 10 people retweet the same thing….. I need to pare down my follower list, I guess…. let’s see, if I go alphabetically — oh, BCB is first to go?

"I'm a Cubs fan. I'm very, very patient." -- from a Shoe cartoon.

by No Southern Belle on Mar 1, 2010 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

In all seriousness...

that’s a disconnect that you need to address personally. The medium is what it is, in concept, as well as in reality. And in reality, most acknowledge that critically important messages are rarely delivered in this manner.

by Damen Jackson on Mar 1, 2010 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Skip the D's.

Unless you’re not following me. If that’s the case, follow me THEN skip the D’s.

Follow me on Twitter here and catch my twice-weekly Cubs news updates here.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 1, 2010 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmmm.

I’m not sure I would do that if I were you.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2010 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Intelligent people....

….. like those of us here reading this thread understand this, but the vast majority of people reading tweets don’t understand the concept. This is what I’m hearing from people and why I’ve stopped retweeting a lot of things myself. I don’t want to add to any angst….

Daver — I am following you already….

Al — The next time you retweet Ozzie, you’re toast — I don’t care about his GPS’s or his new sunglasses unless he wants to buy a pair for me!

"I'm a Cubs fan. I'm very, very patient." -- from a Shoe cartoon.

by No Southern Belle on Mar 1, 2010 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

Ozzie is definitely NOT on my retweet list!

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2010 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

OK, then definitely skip the D's!

Follow me on Twitter here and catch my twice-weekly Cubs news updates here.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 1, 2010 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmm... "ballhawk_ken" comes before "bleedcubbieblue" alphabetically...

…so does this mean I made the cut? Yea!!!!

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Mar 1, 2010 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll have to use the old Yellow Pages trick.

Change my name to something like AAAAAAAAAAAAbleedcubbieblue.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2010 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

ISWYDT

Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.

by Ryno Runner on Mar 1, 2010 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmmmmmm

I had added you, but for some reason haven’t seen anything from you so yes, you made the cut!!!! :)

"I'm a Cubs fan. I'm very, very patient." -- from a Shoe cartoon.

by No Southern Belle on Mar 1, 2010 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

well, I might have a few pre-season tweets coming later this month...

…but the ballhawk tweets don’t begin in earnest until the home opener, April 12.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Mar 1, 2010 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

we need a new countdown clock!

you can’t get much by that #$%@ ballhawk -- LT

by Emelie on Mar 1, 2010 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

You'll get one after the regular season opener!

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2010 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

So, so... And who is Super_Dave (Ballhawk Dave) then?


"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze

by eths on Mar 1, 2010 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

he's another ballhawk that hangs outside of Wrigley

Rumor has it he’s faster than a speeding baseball, more powerful than a charter bus, able to leap tall scalpers in a single bound….

I think some of the junior ballhawks have twitter accounts as well.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Mar 1, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I follow you both, but was never sure who is who...


"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze

by eths on Mar 1, 2010 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm the left-handed one.

[ insert deadpan look here ]

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Mar 1, 2010 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

And for the grammar police..

I meant “what really makes Bleed Cubbie Blue what it is are the forums.”.

by Damen Jackson on Mar 1, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Thank you.

The fanshot section here would be the same if Twitter didn’t exist. Twitter is just a way of pushing the information, and if we didn’t have it, we’d have something else.

The immediacy of a fanshot or fanpost and its apparent ability to turn angst viral says nothing of the timing of the information. Any of that angst inducing stuff that was discussed as a tweet might have made if in to the writers morning columns if twitter wasn’t available, and then we’d just all be emo about it 12 hours later instead.

If the problem is quick communication without allowing for time to properly think / investigate / reason a reaction, than BCB is just as much a problem as twitter.

If the problem is angst, the problem lies with the fanbase, not the communication tools they use.

Dum spiro spero... | Follow me on twitter or else: @andrewjstone.

by AndrewJStone on Mar 1, 2010 11:49 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

True.

Which was kind of what I was saying — don’t overreact to tweets.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I guess i hope you see the irony of singling out Twitter...

… as the guy who runs a website based largely in semi-anonymous real-time conversation between rabidly interested parties with little oversight on what they say.

The problem is the “sky is falling” mentality – i get that. I also suspect BCB does more to encourage it than Twitter does.

Dum spiro spero... | Follow me on twitter or else: @andrewjstone.

by AndrewJStone on Mar 1, 2010 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Point taken, but...

…. at least there’s conversation here. I realize you can respond to a tweet, but most of those are intended as one-way statements.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep - took me awhile to figure that out

but once I realized Twitter’s primary function is as a “push” communication vehicle, it became easier for me to use.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Mar 1, 2010 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree, especially on the fanbase angst

A fanpost on Soriano’s knee being 85% in late February gets 500 comments, many derogative.

That Ramirez’s shoulder is feeling strong gets no fanpost and little fanfare.

Either we have bought into the negativity sells newspapers (or maybe feeds comments on BCB) or we are still dazed by all those past Prior-Wood spring horrors.

"I'd rather hit home runs you don't have to run as hard." -- Dave Kingman

by BucknerKongCardenal on Mar 1, 2010 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Twitter needs to be taken with a grain of salt

Anybody who uses Twitter at all should know that, but I find it difficult to believe that the blogosphere wouldn’t go similarly apeshit if the news about Guzman or Theriot had officially broken on the radio or in the newspaper.

Twitter is a valuable tool for beat writers and other observers to get their observations out to the public as quickly as television or radio can. You are telling me that a tweet from Wittenmyer is more dangerous than a breathless update from Kaplan breaking into the John Williams show on WGN? Or a Bruce Levine exclusive update on ESPN radio?

The problem is not with Twitter itself. The problem is with people who read a singlular sentence and then draw conclusions out to the nth degree. The problem is with people who tweet not recognizing the absolute clusterf*ck they will set off by hyping relatively mundane happenings like a tweaked shoulder or HBP.

Like any other tool, Twitter can be misused, but it is hardly ruining anything.

by Aisle 424 on Mar 1, 2010 10:16 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

It's true that...

… the news would have broken on the radio/newspaper/other blogs/other websites if not for Twitter.

But the point is that tweets give no background nor context, nor any time to analyze what might really be happening in a situation. For Gordo to tweet “Castro ready?” because Ryan Theriot got hit on the hand in the first day of live BP borders on irresponsible.

I agree with you when you state:

The problem is not with Twitter itself. The problem is with people who read a singlular sentence and then draw conclusions out to the nth degree.

Which was kind of the point of the post — DON’T let it ruin your spring training hope and optimism.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

The press doesn't get Twitter yet

They are trying to use Twitter the way fans do. Paul Sullivan has trouble letting a day go by without some snarky comment about Milton Bradley, Kaplan ran with that ridiculous trade rumor started by Stone, and many others quips that you pointed out.

What they fail to understand is that since they are tweeting as members of the mainstream media, they give credibility to whatever they post and fans will react to it as though it were news seen in a newspaper.

If I tweeted that Theriot was hit in the hand and quipped that Castro better be ready, my 3 followers would either laugh, roll their eyes, or tell me to stop being an idiot. Gordo does it and suddenly everyone is worried that spunky little Theriot has played his last game for the Cubs.

They either don’t get it, or like the fact that it riles up so many people because it drives up traffic on their sites or sells newspapers. Probably a little of both.

by Aisle 424 on Mar 1, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Point well taken.

Perhaps this use will improve over time. Hope so. Otherwise it won’t be a useful tool.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

I like the social aspect

I like going to a place where I can unleash some snark that would otherwise be unheard by anyone but my television. I liked being able to watch the hockey game yesterday alone on my couch, but feel as though I watched it with hundreds of other people at a bar. Like a bar, you won’t like everyone that is there and there are a number of loudmouthed idiots (me), but it adds a level of fun to watching sports and other events that one would previously have to leave your house to get. (I am not advocating never leaving your house.)

I like getting links to actual news stories that I might not have seen otherwise.

Even if some don’t get it, it isn’t hard to decipher who is good at using it and who isn’t. Then you can follow or unfollow at your leisure.

by Aisle 424 on Mar 1, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's a really good point.

Of course, only Paul Sullivan would then take the counterintuitive step of actually blocking Cubs fans from his Twitter stream.

Follow me on Twitter here and catch my twice-weekly Cubs news updates here.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 1, 2010 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

JMHO but writers are allowed a little more personality and aren't just extensions of the paper they write for anymore

So using Twitter is another way to get their names into your heads, sell more of their product, etc

"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck

by Musicdude10 on Mar 1, 2010 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I think with news presented over the radio/news

It’s presented with a calm voice and reassurance that some of these things are not a big deal. Usually if it’s worthy enough, the emcee’s will discuss it and/or take a few calls. With twitter, you just get the bit, and like you said, can assume anything

"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck

by Musicdude10 on Mar 1, 2010 12:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree about Twitter, generally

However, I think your points about Calero and Smoltz are exaggerated, Al. The Cubs have been saying how their pen is thin for weeks — and the comments have been reported in several more traditional mediums. Calero and Smoltz are available, and the Cubs were linked to Calero earlier in the offseason.

I don’t think that tweets about the health of Guzman or Lilly were the ONLY reasons posters suggested that the Cubs strengthen the bullpen. If Chan Ho Park can be had for $1.2 million, the Cubs could probably sign someone for around that amount — which is pretty close to what they saved by winning the Theriot arbitration case.

That’s not to argue the merits of signing either guy — Smoltz was a mixed bag last year, and Calero’s health appears to be preventing him from signing. I’m just saying that the discussions and the original posts would have very likely occurred even without Twitter.

by elgato on Mar 1, 2010 10:31 AM CST reply actions  

First it was instant reply trying to

change baseball, now twitter??

After I read Al’s post, I withdraw my statement I made in an earlier post about twitter accounts maybe being ok for Cub’s athletes. I didn’t know the madness that was really going on with twitter. Really though who is considering twitter being a credible source of information?? If Theriot got hit by a pitch, got on twitter and said, “I’ve got a huge bruise, could be a fracture”. Then that’s credible…but when you have Gordo and others getting on there and making post, well they’re just trying to gain attention, views, and popularity with their post. How come there can’t be a happy medium? I thought individual Cub’s players blogging on the Cub’s web’s week by week was good enough for me at one time.

by alabamacubbie on Mar 1, 2010 10:38 AM CST reply actions  

I think you need to investigate the medium a little further.
Really though who is considering twitter being a credible source of information?

Twitter isn’t a source of information, its a communication tool. The source is the person sending the tweet, and if that person is a writer for a Chicago paper, for example, there should be a certain level of credibility and measured thought to the tweets. In many cases, if the full realm of details can’t be communicated in 140 characters, a link should be attached to a blog post with everything you really need to know. Journalists that don’t do this don’t yet understand the communication tool their using either.

but when you have Gordo and others getting on there and making post, well they’re just trying to gain attention, views, and popularity with their post

Being that its their JOB to do so, yes… i’m sure they are. They would probably gain more attention if they did a good JOB of tweeting though, which isn’t the case.

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by AndrewJStone on Mar 1, 2010 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Point well taken...

I was just trying to say that Gordo and Muskat are not really reporting when they get on twitter…it may just be a hobby or just something to do when they are not posting for the jobs that are actually paying them. When they get on their websites, or newpaper they are paying them, but when they get on twitter, it’s just “no holds bars, whatever goes”. I mean I could be wrong, I’m just saying, or really just asking if anyone else feels this way?

by alabamacubbie on Mar 1, 2010 9:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I would guess in most cases...

… the reporters have a strict set of rules set out instructing what they can and can’t tweet about. ESPN’s policies are notoriously strict. Local papers / radio stations / tv stations may not have caught up yet, but they will.

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by AndrewJStone on Mar 1, 2010 11:26 PM CST up reply actions  

This is an interesting issue.

And, from what I’ve read in various places, this is allegedly Paul Sullivan’s excuse for being such an unprofessional jerk toward Milton Bradley on Twitter – he’s just “voicing his opinions” and “acting like a blogger.”

I just don’t buy it. When you’re a professional in the public eye such as a beat writer, you should maintain your professionalism at all times – even when on Twitter. If Sullivan really wants to go “no holds barred,” he should just open an anonymous account and have his fun.

Oh, and Gordo and Muskat are absolutely reporting when they’re on Twitter. Credit where credit is due: Carrie has been doing a much better job thus far in tweeting and updating her blog with spring training updates. Gordo’s been pretty much same ol’, same ol’.

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by dat cubfan daver on Mar 2, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

I have been retweeting a lot of Carrie's...

… largely because she sticks to straight information which I think is useful to know. Gordo, not so much.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 2, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I really like Carrie's

tweets and I have heard her on ESPN and the radio a few times. She’s probably my most favorite beat writer, and probably the most credible.

by alabamacubbie on Mar 3, 2010 12:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Bruce Miles does an outstanding job.

He’s not on Twitter yet, or I’d probably be retweeting his informational tweets, too.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 3, 2010 8:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, she's been doing a good job this spring.

As long as she leaves off her analyst hat and keeps on her reporter hat, she’s well worth keeping up with.

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by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

The only thing we hate more are tweets about Harry Potter.

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by dtpollitt n SWL on Mar 1, 2010 11:05 AM CST reply actions  

Delivered by owl?

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by Musicdude10 on Mar 1, 2010 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

O.W.L?

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by Ryno Runner on Mar 1, 2010 7:02 PM CST up reply actions  

yessss.... we hates them tweets.... yesss we do...

(from that cinematic classic “When Harry met Gollum”)

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by ballhawk on Mar 1, 2010 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

WHAT THE....

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by dtpollitt on Mar 1, 2010 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

What 424 said...

the problem isn’t with Twitter. The problem is how people mis-use it, either as members of the press or as fans overreacting and overextrapolating from info in a format designed from the ground up to limit the content of a message.

by shawndgoldman on Mar 1, 2010 11:18 AM CST reply actions  

Again, that was kind of my point.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2010 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Well the title of your post is "How Twitter Is Ruining Spring Training".

That certainly implies that you’re calling Twitter the culprit here.

A more appropriate title might be “How People Taking Tweets Out Of Context And With No Background Information Are Ruining Spring Training”.

But that doesn’t quite roll off the tongue as well as your original title…

Personally I think this whole issue is kind of pointless. People will overreact to an article in the paper tomorrow just like they’ll freak out about a Tweet today. We’re Cub fans. If (arguably) your most consistent pitcher is rehabbing from shoulder surgery, fighting off a bum knee, and sick – well, we’re certainly justified in being concerned. I’m not too bothered by it – it’s March 1st. But you know there will be plenty of people out there ready to throw in the towel for the season already because of it.

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by Schwa on Mar 1, 2010 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Your more appropriate title is more accurate.

But, like you said, it wouldn’t have gotten as much attention as the one I did use.

I think what’s lacking in tweets is context. And obviously, some use them to stir up controversy. Worthy topics of discussion, at the very least.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2010 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Twitter, a tool? A toy is more like it.

I enjoy Twitter throughly, but being aware that something like 95% is noise and maybe 5% is real information, means I do NOT use it as a source for News, etc.

And Twitter won’t have an affect upon my inherint optimism that, somehow, this is The Year.


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by eths on Mar 1, 2010 11:23 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

I think it all depends on who you're following.

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by dat cubfan daver on Mar 1, 2010 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

some BCB'ers are

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 1, 2010 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Pot, Kettle.

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by dtpollitt on Mar 1, 2010 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  


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@Twitter as @brommmietze

by eths on Mar 1, 2010 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Three words: Fake. Ronnie. Woo.

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by dat cubfan daver on Mar 1, 2010 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

A few names: @FakeRonnieWoo, @FakeJimHendry, @GhostHarryCaray, @FauxRonSanto, @FakeLouPiniella, @NotHawk

They are (at times) funny, and I wouldn’t be surprised if some of us from BCB are behind some of them.


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by eths on Mar 1, 2010 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

That wouldn't surprise me at all.

Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.

by Ryno Runner on Mar 1, 2010 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

But do you really know, for sure, who you are actually following?


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by eths on Mar 1, 2010 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Hm, you're right.

Whoever is tweeting for Jon Heyman is completely out of his mind.

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by dat cubfan daver on Mar 1, 2010 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree wholeheartedly

I’m a young(ish) man, so I’m not saying get off my lawn to anyone. But I do feel strongly that twitter encourages a certain lack of seriousness in journalists that reflects terribly on their profession. It has its place – for important breaking news, its often the fastest way to update the public on events as they occur in real time. (Grant Wahl of SI.com proved this with great effect tweeting from the hospital on the day US Soccer forward Charlie Davies was undergoing surgery after a car accident).

But 99% of the time, reporters who succumb to the urge to be first and tweet their news rather than report it, are doing themselves and their readership a great disservice.

by Orval Overall on Mar 1, 2010 12:01 PM CST reply actions  

That's definitely a challenge that every professional journalist...

…who opts to use Twitter faces. Some have already failed, others appear to be well on their way to succeeding.

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by dat cubfan daver on Mar 1, 2010 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I just hate how the priority...

is the be the first to report something, not to necessarily report the facts, but to report something first. Bothers the hell out of me.

by kanderber on Mar 1, 2010 12:17 PM CST reply actions  

Note...

This is a comment on journalism in general, not just Twitter.

by kanderber on Mar 1, 2010 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Good movie.

"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray

by Archie on Mar 1, 2010 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

One of the best ever, IMO

At least one of the funniest.

One of Lee Elia's 15%

by waiting4cubs on Mar 1, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Upper class or lower class?


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by eths on Mar 1, 2010 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

African or European?

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by Ryno Runner on Mar 1, 2010 7:05 PM CST up reply actions  

The rush to break a story can certainly be bothersome when handled improperly...

…but it’s also a fact of life when competing in an open marketplace.

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by dat cubfan daver on Mar 1, 2010 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

All correct.

Which is all the more reason to not say “Castro ready?” when tweeting about a mostly-irrelevant HBP in BP on the first day of spring training. (Just an example — there are plenty of others like this.)

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2010 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Disclaimer: I don't have Twitter

I do have an RSS feed (explanation) which is how I get most of my news. I have a few sites giving me feeds, sports included. I find that this is a great way of finding out information. Except for ESPN, the feeds have enough information to get the story and the basic information. If I want to know more, I go to google.

Before my discovery of RSS feeds, I simply was using my phone to check MLBTR, ESPN, etc all the time. That is still sufficient, although a little more time consuming.

For me, Twitter is a big “Why do I care?!” Frankly, I don’t care that you like oranges or think you look cute in a blouse. I have a facebook for that kind of stuff and even then it’s a little much. Generally I use those status’s to start conversation or to send out relevant information to my friends/family. I don’t think my cousin in England wants to know my eggs are a little runny this morning.

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by Musicdude10 on Mar 1, 2010 12:30 PM CST reply actions  

Again, it all depends on who you follow.

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by dat cubfan daver on Mar 1, 2010 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I still don't get it

Why does a company, organization, etc have to post their news on a 3rd-party website? Why not just post “quick” news through your aforementioned site?

On a more relative note to this post, Twitter is helping to ruin the English language as well.

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by propheteer on Mar 1, 2010 12:31 PM CST reply actions  

Because no one goes to that aforementioned site.

And Twitter isn’t doing anything to ruin the English language that text and instant messaging didn’t do long ago.

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by dat cubfan daver on Mar 1, 2010 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

OMG? R U srs?

Impossible 2 blv that such a thing cud happen.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2010 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

ur spelin sux

Or in Ham Radio talk: QLF
;-)


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by eths on Mar 1, 2010 3:30 PM CST up reply actions  

That's why I said "helping."

You’re right, kids growing up are going to have trouble communicating through verbalization.

"The country is full of good coaches. What it takes to win is a bunch of interested players." -Don Coryell, ex-San Diego Chargers Coach

by propheteer on Mar 1, 2010 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Precisely why they do not use this

My kids do not have a cell phones, though they inquired. They will likely get ones that call only – with very limited plans – and not all the texting & IM’ing crap I see kids let run their lives with recently.

Neither kid lives with xbox, playstation, wee-wee or any of that other crap. They’re learning to speak properly and enunciate well. There’s already too many adult zombies running around. I’ll be damned if I push my kids in that direction too.

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by blackhawk24 on Mar 1, 2010 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Curious...

How old are your kids? I don’t have any kids, but I gotta think that if I did I would be sure they ALWAYS had a cell phone with them when they’re out of my house. For emergencies and what not.

by kanderber on Mar 1, 2010 6:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I think for any kid who's a teenager, that's pretty much mandatory these days.

That’s about the age mine got theirs.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2010 8:22 PM CST up reply actions  

We got our kids cell phones

when they got their drivers licenses. Before that they would borrow one of our cell phones if they were going somewhere and we felt we might need to contact them for some reason. I’m sure they’ll tell you they were the ONLY ones without them. Then they were the ONLY ones who didn’t have texting. Now that the have texting I’m sure they will find a new thing to whine that they are deprived of (the ONLY kids that don’t have iphones or something).

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by katie casey on Mar 2, 2010 8:00 AM CST up reply actions  

well, when I went to grade school...

…I was the only kid that didn’t have at least the 48 color Crayola crayon box (with the built-in sharpener!). In fact, most kids had the 64 color box.

While all the other kids were using “burnt sienna” and “raw umber”, I had to make do with plain old “brown”.

Man, was I bummed…

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by ballhawk on Mar 2, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

That built-in sharpener kicked ass.

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by dat cubfan daver on Mar 2, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

no no no

Don’t let him tease you. It didn’t work very well. Besides, once you tore the wrapper the crayon wasn’t as good anymore. They were only pretty when they were brand new.

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by katie casey on Mar 2, 2010 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

I honestly can't recall how well it worked...

…so I’m probably just remembering it through rose burnt sienna-colored glasses.
:-)

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by dat cubfan daver on Mar 2, 2010 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

LOL

Are you sure you aren’t thinking of magenta?

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by katie casey on Mar 2, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

That could be.

I knew a girl in college with magenta-colored hair. But I digress..

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by dat cubfan daver on Mar 2, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I had the 48, but wanted the 64.

I finally conned them into letting me have them. Now I’m an artist. Considering how business has been lately, maybe they should have stuck with the 24.

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by katie casey on Mar 2, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

How about an example from my own experience?

I administer the website for a local Broadway subscription season (think STOMP, Mamma Mia, that sort of thing) for one of the top 50 largest cities in the country. This site’s traffic, in an average week, will begin with either a Facebook or Twitter link.

When you start communication on a social network, you are going to your potential customer or patron directly instead of waiting for them to find you.

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by AndrewJStone on Mar 1, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Definitely makes sense

Your situation is a very nice example if that’s how it’s used.

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by propheteer on Mar 1, 2010 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Uh oh, you've done it now, Al...

I just clicked on the BCB logo and it took longer than usual to reload. Now usually while the hourglass is displayed, I’m checking out the status bar to see what’s being loaded and from where. It’s an interesting way to pass the time and yes, I’m easily amused.

Anyway like I said, this time was taking a lot longer than usual. So I glance down to see who the culprit is and I see

Waiting for twitter.com…

Hell hath no fury like a technology scorned…

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by ballhawk on Mar 1, 2010 1:57 PM CST reply actions  

Seems as good a time as any to post this:

Cubs fail whale

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by dat cubfan daver on Mar 1, 2010 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, well.

Something else I have no control over.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2010 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

This is one of the worst articles I have ever read

Twitter is ruining Spring Training because of…lack of optimism? I thought this was a Cubs blog. What is there to be optimistic about?

Twitter provides info about the Cubs spring training and you’re bashing it? I don’t see any useful info about the cubs on BCS outside of pointless “community projections”

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by Mike Breese on Mar 1, 2010 9:08 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah, BCS sucks.

You could try BCB, though. It’s not bad.

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by dat cubfan daver on Mar 2, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't know

when is enough, enough. Information overload. I am old school, I don’t tex message, I don’t do facebook and I don’t Twitter. So call me an old dog, so be it.
 I love BCB, MLB network and Baseball reference.com.

Go Cubs

by Grockcubs on Mar 1, 2010 10:22 PM CST reply actions  

OMG you are old school

OMG=oh my god

baseball.........is Kool Aid the remedy, or the cause of my desire for it

by cooliogirl47 on Mar 2, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

A tex message to deep centerfield!

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by dat cubfan daver on Mar 2, 2010 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Twitter (which I hate) is overtaking blogs like Bleedcubbieblue

A blog this one is threatened by Twitter on a certain level. That puts the onus on the owner / operator of BCB to restore this blog to its former glory days of an editorial bite and where unvarnished opinions from all sides are allowed to roam unfettered.

Unfortunately BCB is morphing into a generic Carrie Muskrat sort of a site that is saying a steady decline in its best and brightest contributors. That’s too bad. But the good news is the damage can be reversed and BCB can go back to being objective, edgy and home of real diehard fans who will not settle for kool-aid as their beverage of choice.

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by BLou on Mar 2, 2010 7:08 AM CST reply actions  

cue the "Rocky" theme music...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Mar 2, 2010 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

IN A WORLD...

…where no blog is safe…where the creeping plague of errant tweets are threatening everyone and everything in their path…a hero emerges…

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by dat cubfan daver on Mar 2, 2010 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

lulz

all a blog has to do is keep allowing people to make good comments over 140 characters. There’s nothing twitter does that threatens BCB. They’re wholly different constructs.

Of course, BCB allowed terrible comments over 140 characters as well.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 2, 2010 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I just want to know what "an editorial bite" is.

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by dat cubfan daver on Mar 2, 2010 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  


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@Twitter as @brommmietze

by eths on Mar 2, 2010 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Twitter isn't ruining ST, it's that the games haven't started.

C’mon, I can’t wait anymore for game action.

may addition by subtraction be real

by N Oakley on Mar 2, 2010 8:45 AM CST reply actions  

Two more days.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 2, 2010 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

For The Record, Redux

I have an el cheapo Virgin Mobile pay as you go cell phone. I never use it unless I’m on the road, which isn’t often enough. I don’t follow Twitter for a second and only visit BCB every few days or so. My grandly complicated life keeps me going in other directions.

I’m not so wired that I have an iphone with apps that pump whatever kind of information I want every time a feed goes off. I understand the technology enough to know I don’t want to be inundated with stimulation and information all the time .. so when I choose to unplug from the Matrix and do my own thing, I feel completely at hand.

I started that thread on Smoltz Al cited at the top of the hour here not in knee jerk reaction to some frenetic tweeting, but in the recognition that Guzman is a fragile guy, may well show issues down the road and that I think his tires are worth kicking again. What if the Shark doesn’t quite pan out? What if Z or Demp or Lilly get a good spanking when they aren’t “on” for their start — what if it happens if they crap out over two or three days? Wouldn’t having a guy like him in there to help pick things up be worth the exploration? I think so, but this is no hill I’m gonna die on.

So tweeting – for me, of the old school – just isn’t my inspiration in Cubs ST. Sure, it can provide insights that are valuable, but the nature of the medium itself is enough for those who want context that brings clarification. And when driven by a hungry media who want the headlines, it’s a monster that needs to be reigned in.

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I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

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