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Today In The Valley Of The Sun: Cubs vs. Rangers at Mesa, Tuesday 3/16, 3:05 CT

SCOTTSDALE, Arizona -- On Sunday, Ted Lilly's wife Natasha gave birth to their first child, Theodore Roosevelt Lilly IV. (Incidentally, there is a good reason for continuing that name -- according to this, Ted's great-grandfather was a member of Teddy Roosevelt's Rough Riders. I would have expected nothing less!)

Today, we learn that Ted might pitch in a couple of games before spring training ends, and be ready to slot into the rotation by mid-April. Good news.

Sharp-eyed BCB reader Mulhollandmania noticed last night that Welington Castillo had been removed and Brian Schlitter added to the Cubs' 40-man roster. I have learned that this is a MLB.com mistake -- no changes have been made to the 40-man.

Maury Brown at Biz of Baseball notes that this year, MLB will draw its 3 billionth fan since the AL/NL "merger" (as he calls it) in 1901. More interesting will be whether overall attendance drops for the third straight year since the all-time record (79,503,175) was set in 2007. About a third of last year's decline can be accounted for by the fact that both the Mets and Yankees moved into new, smaller ballparks. The milestone will be reached near the end of the season; it'll take almost 71 million. The current attendance total is 2,929,151,842.

Star-divide

What great planning. Who's the first Cubs pitcher I get to see in person this year? Why, Carlos Silva, of course. (Please don't suck today, Carlos.) He'll face the Rangers' Neftali Feliz and C.J. Wilson, both of whom are scheduled to go four innings.

Lineup via tweet from Carrie:

SS Theriot, RF Fukudome, DH Nady, CF Byrd, 1B Hoffpauir, LF Soriano, 2B Fontenot, C Soto, 3B Tracy

Today's game is on WGN radio with Pat & Ron. Here is today's complete MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday

SB Nation game preview

Today's first pitch thread will post at 3 pm CDT, and the overflow thread at 4:15 pm CDT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Yeah, I hope Silva doesn't suck today too.

But it’d be interesting to get your scouting report in-situ, Al.

by chilango2 on Mar 16, 2010 1:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Why? For the Love of God....

let the man suck now in Spring Training and get released instead of appearing to be serviceable for a few starts and taking a roster spot from an actual major league pitcher that could help us.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 16, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

True dat.

Always the wisdom oracle, good sir.

by chilango2 on Mar 16, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pardon?

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by daver on Mar 16, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I agree with him, too.

I just saw “dat” and had to respond.

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by daver on Mar 16, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah…

Gotcha… I’m devoid of humor today. XML will do that to you…

by chilango2 on Mar 16, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Humor Time!!!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 16, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tickles!!! Yummy!!!


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by eths on Mar 16, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

hopefully

It can mark the start of something good. Hopefully he can return to good form and be a good pitcher for the Cubbies or we can at least get a few good starts out of him before we have to turn to a different pitcher. Need to get something out of the millions that he is getting paid.

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by hansman1982 on Mar 16, 2010 3:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

"Gave birth to...TRL IV"?

More like “sat in amazement as TRL IV clawed his way out and then lit up one of the celebratory cigars”.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 16, 2010 1:15 PM CDT reply actions  

The true "merger" was in 1903,

when the National League and American League sort of settled their differences. They had been at war since Ban Johnson, Comiskey and others first tried to establish the American League as a true Major League, equal to the National League, in 1901. First World Series was in 1903 between the Pittsburgh Pirates and Boston “Americans.” However, the NY Giants of John McGraw and John T. Brush didn’t like the idea and refused to play in the 1904 World Series, so you might say that a full merger that included all teams in both leagues didn’t happen until the 1905 season..

One of Lee Elia's 15%

by waiting4cubs on Mar 16, 2010 1:16 PM CDT reply actions  

I caught Brian Schlitter's performance...

…in one of the spring training games over the weekend. (I think it was Friday’s in Vegas.) He looked like he had pretty good stuff. Seemed to be throwing hard anyway. I just wish he threw a splitter.

Here’s hoping Al catches Silva’s obligatory home run ball today.

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by daver on Mar 16, 2010 1:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Well he already knows how to throw a Schlitter - isn't that good enough?

Is Schlitz still in business? They’d be an obvious endorsement opportunity if Brian makes it to the bigs.

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by ballhawk on Mar 16, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Back in business

using the old recipe from before the Milwaukee brewery almost killed it entirely, sold the brand and closed. I believe the new “old” Schlitz is available in Chicago and select other cities. I recall sitting in the center field bleachers during the 1970’s with a beer guy at the bottom of both stairs. Each had cases of Old Style and Schlitz in 12-oz. bottles. The OS would run out by about the 7th inning and then you had to drink Schlitz. By then you couldn’t tell the difference.

One of Lee Elia's 15%

by waiting4cubs on Mar 16, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

The bar next dooe to my place last summer had Schlitz

For a buck a can. They did it to compete with the bar across the street that had the same deal on Carling Black Label.

I preferred the Schlitz.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 16, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

Just thinking of Schlitz’s smell, I want to wretch.

by chilango2 on Mar 16, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

and seeing Carling Black Label took me back many many years...

…to the selection my dad kept in the beer fridge out in the garage – Carling Black Label, Old Dutch, and Weidemans.

Yep, the old man really knew how to live it up… ;-)

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by ballhawk on Mar 16, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

In college

Circa 1980, we had an old soda machine in our rental house. We kept it full of ice-cold Carling Black Label, in returnable bottles, for $3.88 a case. The key was to keep it ice cold.

"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is." -- Yogi Berra

by vonde6 on Mar 16, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Used to think Carling was a luxury beer.

Normally bought Blatz for 99 cents a six-pack.

One of Lee Elia's 15%

by waiting4cubs on Mar 16, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

My grandfather always kept Carling Black Label in the downstairs mini-fridge

We kids thought we were clever by only sneaking the Black Label rather than anything he might miss. It took a long time for us to realize that he was outsmarting us by putting the cheap beer out as bait so we wouldn’t touch his good stuff.

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"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 16, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Select other cities?

I think my dad buys it in the CVS in Rushville, IN. Pop. 5000. Biggest town for 20 miles in every direction.

"Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals." --Churchill

by lordsummer on Mar 16, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds like a very select city to me!

They obviously must have rolled it out to a lot more locations. I wondered if it’s national again yet so just checked their website, found a “locator” function and keyed in Hawaii. Here’s the result:

“Search Results
Classic 1960’s Schlitz is not available in your area just yet. We’re re-introducing Schlitz across the country, so sign up for email updates below, and we’ll let you know when you can find Schlitz at your neighborhood store.”

Here’s their website.

One of Lee Elia's 15%

by waiting4cubs on Mar 16, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

you wish

Schlitter threw a splitter? Or maybe a spitter? Or maybe a sh…

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 16, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

LAME!

The game after the one I go to has all the good hitters.

by Adam U on Mar 16, 2010 1:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Sorry

The good weather spoils you. It was nice to go to a game, but the ones at Wrigley at 10 times better.

by Adam U on Mar 16, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's the Rangers lineup...

…via beat reporter Jeff Wilson:

Julio Borbon CF

Elvis Andrus SS

David Murphy LF

Nelson Cruz RF

Chris Davis 1B

Matt Brown 3B

Taylor Teagarden C

Joaquin Arias 2B

Neftali Feliz RHP

C.J. Wilson and Pedro Strop will follow Feliz.

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by daver on Mar 16, 2010 1:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Is Wilson being stretched out to start?

Why do I remember him working in the pen last year, especially while Francisco was banged up?

Al’s lucky he gets to watch Feliz throw. Man that kid’s stuff is electric.

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by Schwa on Mar 16, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I've heard good things about Feliz.

I remember watching a clip of him throwing 100 mph last season. Not sure about Wilson – I believe he was a reliever last season, too. FWIW, this depth chart has him competing for a rotation spot. I suppose we could just ask him on Twitter.

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by daver on Mar 16, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Rangers will win the AL West in 2011

And possibly the world series

All because of Neftali Feliz, Taylor Teagarden, and Chris Davis (if he cuts back on the strike outs). The Rangers are going to have a 2008 Rays kind of year next year.

"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck

by Musicdude10 on Mar 16, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

A bold prediction.

I’d like to see it happen, though. I’m sick of the Angels always winning it.

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by daver on Mar 16, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Seattle wins it this year

But the Yankees still make it to the WS….and LOSE to the Phillies

"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck

by Musicdude10 on Mar 16, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

You think the Phils win three NLs in a row?

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Mar 16, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do

Remember how the Astro’s used to have the killer B’s (Berkman, Biggio, Bagwell)? The Phillies have the killer H’s (Halladay, Hamels, Happ). I think Happ won’t have as stellar of a year but I just don’t see the Cardinals/Cubs/Giants/Dodgers/Rockies/Braves standing a chance over a seven game series unless the Phillies lose Howard or Utley for significant time

"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck

by Musicdude10 on Mar 16, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

They certainly have the players to do it

I just think winning three NL pennants in a row defies the odds too much … something will prevent it even if they are the best team on paper.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Mar 17, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thrilled.

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by daver on Mar 17, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hummel Hummel


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by eths on Mar 16, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol...we need to talk....

"Nady and his weak beard steps in" --Cubbie-Tim on Mar 12, 2010 9:53 PM

by cooliogirl47 on Mar 16, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speak away - I'm all "ears"


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by eths on Mar 16, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

see and meet me in the End of the Era Thread

"Nady and his weak beard steps in" --Cubbie-Tim on Mar 12, 2010 9:53 PM

by cooliogirl47 on Mar 16, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gotcha. Cool.


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by eths on Mar 16, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

one more time cause I never leave a friend hanging....Mors Mors eths

"Nady and his weak beard steps in" --Cubbie-Tim on Mar 12, 2010 9:53 PM

by cooliogirl47 on Mar 16, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eamus Catuli


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by eths on Mar 16, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh that sounds good

Not only that I have just checked and a nearby library has a copy.

by Stan Cox on Mar 16, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

How many people can get SHOT in the middle of a speech and finish just to spite the shooter?

Me thinks that TRLs great-grandfather may have been a big influence, with healing powers and all.

by bdlugz on Mar 16, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but a real man would have won the election

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Mar 16, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

second that rec

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Mar 16, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

20 Days, 0 Hours, 50 Minutes and 30 seconds

It just has to be mentioned


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by eths on Mar 16, 2010 2:19 PM CDT reply actions  

I feel special knowing that I'm....

1 in 2,929,151,842, must like mom always said. :) (Or if that just means gate numbers, then I’m like something like 1 in 292,915,184.2 but who’s counting).

Either way, I’m clearly exceptional. :)

by CubsWin!Oregon on Mar 16, 2010 2:39 PM CDT reply actions  

If you've been to more than one game...

you’re more than 1.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 16, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

I’ve been to like 10 games in my life. That’s where I got the 1 in 292,915,184.2. :)

by CubsWin!Oregon on Mar 16, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gameday has line ups

Texas

Borbon, CF
Andrus, SS
Murphy, LF
Cruz, RF
Davis, 1B
Brown 3B
Tracy, DH
Teargarden, C
Arias, 2B

Feliz, P
 
 
Cubs

Theriot, SS
Fukudome, RF
Nady, DH
Byrd, CF
Hoffpauir, 1B
Soriano, LF
Fontenot, 2B
Soto, C
Tracy, 3B

Silva, P
 
 
Weather: 74°, Fair, Wind 9 mph East


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by eths on Mar 16, 2010 2:47 PM CDT reply actions  

honest to god, if we're not going with someone who has an OBP at leadoff

why not just put Soriano back there? At least we’ll have the occasional leadoff home run

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Mar 16, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Theriot has a career .356 OBP... that's not exactly terrible.

Also in 2008 he was at .387, so he’s obviously capable of getting on base. My biggest issue is what he does once he gets there.

You really cant compare Sorianos OBP to Theriots, even in a very down year last year he was a .343 OBP.

by bdlugz on Mar 16, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Theriot walked 11 more times in 54 more at-bats

last season. And for Soriano, it was a “very down year” for Theriot, it was actually a pretty good year.

11 more walks seems pretty comparable to me.

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Mar 16, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry, 54 is wrong

he played in 37 more GAMES and had 125 more at bats.

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Mar 16, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

How do you figure it was a good year for Theriot??

His OBP dropped nearly 40 points, he doubled his K’s, halved his walks….

Are you being serious right now??? All he did better was hit a couple crappily scrappy home runs.

by bdlugz on Mar 16, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

in 2007 he hit just .266 and his OBP was .326

So good might be a stretch, but for him, it wasn’t a terrible year. 2008 was simply a GREAT year for him. If you take his three FULL seasons, last year (except for the strikeouts) is far more indicative of what you can expect from him, and that’s not a whole lot better than Soriano when you look at walks and OBP. Soriano brings more power, and a few less TOOTBLANs

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Mar 16, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also, were his strikeouts up because he had a bad year, or because that's what we can expect now?

I mean, that strikeout number is insane. Almost 100 strikeouts for a player in Theriot’s category?

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Mar 16, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pre-Game is audible on the WGN internet stream


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by eths on Mar 16, 2010 2:50 PM CDT reply actions  

and WGN radio if you're in the area

"Nady and his weak beard steps in" --Cubbie-Tim on Mar 12, 2010 9:53 PM

by cooliogirl47 on Mar 16, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

They haven't been streaming the pre-game shows so far in 2010

MLB-AM is also in ST…


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by eths on Mar 16, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

do you have audio then

"Nady and his weak beard steps in" --Cubbie-Tim on Mar 12, 2010 9:53 PM

by cooliogirl47 on Mar 16, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well I can hear some crowd noise, but they aren't talking right now.


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by eths on Mar 16, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Any news on when

Lee and Ramirez come back?

Its funny, you spend most of your life gripping a baseball. And in the end, its almost always the other way around.

by TCobb1911 on Mar 16, 2010 2:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Thursday

Andres Blanco for the weekend

LINK

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by Musicdude10 on Mar 16, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's good to hear (er, read).

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by daver on Mar 16, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jump (Mobile friendly)


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by eths on Mar 16, 2010 3:01 PM CDT reply actions  

I figured you would be.

For your sake, I hope he’s not a disaster out there.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 16, 2010 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

He won't be a disaster.

I’m sure he won’t be awesome out there, but he doesn’t have to be. I hope Lou isn’t doing this only because he’s leaning toward Fontenot (platoon issues aside). But whatever the reasons, trying Baker out there in ST just makes sense.

by elgato on Mar 17, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!!!

The team is having a karaoke contest for the rooks/young guys. The judges on the panel are Demp, DLee, Millar and Ramirez. Lou said the clubhouse is having a good time.

OK I don't know shit about basketball.

by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST

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