YIKES (Left field Minitron???)
by JimWa on Mar 17, 2010 12:20 PM CDT
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PrintLooks like the beginning of the end - or just a negotiating tool. Either way - I'm scared! (please just being a negotiating tool!!!)
http://www.chicagobreakingbusiness.com/2010/03/cubs-want-huge-illuminated-billboard-at-wrigley-field.html
By Ameet Sachdev | The Chicago Cubs, in search of new advertising revenues, have asked the City of Chicago for permission to erect a 360-square-foot billboard above the left-field bleachers at Wrigley Field, an alderman said Wednesday.
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Looks like Al beat you to it
Here’s the fanpost-
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2010/3/17/1377236/cubs-proposed-lf-billboard
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"
Won't hurt anything
As long as it’s not an ad for Vagisil or Viagra . I think a lit up billboard would offer a fresh new perspective to Wrigley. Granted, its not TOO huge.
"The more i practice, the luckier i seem to get" -Yogi Berra
What if it's for this?
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/clips/ladies-bowling/1182387/
Just win the next game...!
I'd like to invite everyone to see my band, Left Field Minitron, at Metro this weekend.
We have kind of a retro 80s/electronica sound.
Please cover...
… Falco’s “Amadeus” and anything by Devo.
"It's Spring Training. You know how many home runs Barry Bonds hit off me? One - in Spring Training." - Big Z
Sold!
"It's Spring Training. You know how many home runs Barry Bonds hit off me? One - in Spring Training." - Big Z
Can you also cover "Once, Twice, Three Times a Nady" too?
You know, for the soft number of the set…
"Look, what do you want me to do?"
weill the covers be released on
Accordian Hero for XBox 360?
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
Sold!
"It's Spring Training. You know how many home runs Barry Bonds hit off me? One - in Spring Training." - Big Z
Is it a Minitron
that will also show replays or is it just a big billboard? My understanding it’s the latter.
2010 is OUR year.
Exactly.
It’s just a billboard. Everyone relax. Oh, and it might bring the team more revenue for player payrolls. No one’s against THAT, right?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
It's all about the blend
the revenue COULD help the team out, but as the article said, they tried to design a board to blend with Wrigley…..a large red logo in a predominantly green park would stick out like a sore thumb, make it green and it’ll work.
~Ronald Reagan has held the two most demeaning jobs in the country; President of the United States and radio broadcaster for the Chicago Cubs~ George F. Will
by unretrofied93 on Mar 17, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Depends on what else it enables
I for one hope the ballpark renovation plans strongly favours skyboxes. That would be the most lucrative revenue generator for the Cubs. And as long as the “sweeping views of the grandstands” are not altered or overwhelmed, the Cubs do not have to deal with the community crap or city hall.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Mar 18, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Awesome!
More money to make the team better in years to come. Let’s hope Chicago passes it!
This is a minitron. Seriously. If they put this up at Wrigley, it'll really suck...
"Look, what do you want me to do?"
I agree Zeke, how do the not at least go with a Mega Maid??
This seems like the best solution
because as a loyal Cubs fan,
i don’t want to go from Suck to Blow
Bob Brenly on Leo Nunez "Dan Uggla just saved Nunez’ life because Koyie would break him into a million pieces"
Could be a useful switch
depending on who is at bat!
You've lost the beeps, the creeps, and the sweeps
And that’s not all you’ve lost :)
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
LOL
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 18, 2010 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Red X
What is this picture here?
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 18, 2010 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Same computer, same browser, an hour later...
Of course I see it now!
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 18, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I said this in the FanShot too...
…. but it looks like the height is being exagerated. If its 75 feet tall yet 360 square feet, it’d be less than five feet wide. Seems unlikely.
Chances are its really just going to obstruct the Horseshoe ad from the cameras behind home plate, which would put it rectangular. 10 × 36 is one of several standard sizes for billboards across the country and equals 360 square feet… perhaps the back of the bleachers is 65 feet tall, making the height at the TOP of the billboard 75.
10×36 really isn’t too obnoxious…
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If it's how you've described...
then it sounds fine to me (so long as it doens’t interfere with players being able to hit HRs onto the street, which is one of my favorite thing about Wrigley). Will be interested to hear more details to understand what all the hullabaloo is about.
by CubsWin!Oregon on Mar 17, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Does anyone know the history of how Wrigley came to be an historic landmark?
Is it something the Cubs applied for to get some sort of tax benefit? Or does the city just come in and appropriate the improvement rights of private property?
Megatron > Minitron
Transform and roll out guys.
by lswaidz on Mar 17, 2010 3:52 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
WIN.
A LO PROFUNDOOO...NOO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NOO...DIGALE QUE NO A ESA PELOTA!! GANAN LOS CACHORROS DE CHICAGO!!
by Azul Cachorro on Mar 21, 2010 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Toyota sign
Sun Times also talking about a huge Toyota sign in center field. Any truth in that rumor?
wccubfan
The left field billboard in question is going to be a Toyota ad.
Actually, just the logo if the renderings I just saw on the local news are accurate.
Imagine this perched above the last row of the bleachers…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Really, I don't have a problem with this.
It’s just advertising. It could help the team. The ballpark is still there. What’s the issue?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Why do you keep playing the innocent here?
You, more than most people, should understand the allure Wrigley Field has on people. That allure comes in many shapes, sizes and forms. And for some people it’s the pristine look and feel of a classic old time ballpark. For those folks, the advertising creep that has occurred over the last several years is an assault on their senses.
Ok, so you don’t have a problem with this. For the most part, neither do I – I don’t stand over there much anyway, so whatever balls that won’t come out now is no skin off my back. But for you to say “what’s the issue?” is… is… well, I don’t know what the right word is but I’m sure Drew does.
You don’t like Woo Woo. I don’t like the bleacher expansion. And some people don’t like the increase in advertising.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Excellent idea!
And if memory serves, had this sign been in place a few years ago, Xavier Nady would be driving around in a nice new Toyota – hopefully slowly…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
heh
it will certainly change the feel of the park, perhaps in a way that the unobtrusive ribbon boards didn’t. Am I correct in suggesting that this would be the largest advertisement in the stadium proper?
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 17, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes.
I suppose (answering ballhawk above) that I understand if some think it changes the “feel” of the park. It doesn’t for me.
To those who are opposed to it just because they don’t want advertising, reality check: this is 2010. It takes hundreds of millions of dollars to run a team. The Cubs need all the new revenue sources they can get.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
then you should have no problem with...
- corporate logos sewn in all over the uniforms, a la NASCAR.
- PA announcements like this when Z pitches: “Today’s Big Blue uniforms brought to you by IBM”
- corporate logos mown into the outfield grass
- sponsored 7th inning stretches – for the right price, you too can sing TMOTTBG!
- ribbon scoreboards all around the upperdeck, flashing advertisements every half-inning – heck, after every batter.
- reduction in the size of scorecards so they can fit in more advertising
- PA announcements like “C’mon everybody – let’s do the WAVE! This 5th inning wave brought to you by 5th 3rd Bank”
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Al, do recognize that your BACK will be to this sign from your in-game vantage point.
You won’t see it every time you look out towards the bleachers. You’re IN the bleachers.
"Look, what do you want me to do?"
Two points.
@Zeke: It’ll be to my left. I can still see it. I still don’t care.
@ballhawk: Everything you mention is OK with me. Except the wave. Ugh. I’m guessing logos mown into the grass would be a little much, too.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
YMCA doesn't bother me.
It’s a bit trite, but harmless.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Some Disco is OK.
THAT Disco song sucks.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
I don't mind new advertising
I just want it integrated into the feel of the park. I don’t think it’ll take much.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 18, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
As long as the sign's brakes work
what’s the problem?
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Mar 17, 2010 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Zing!
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
just me?
or does this look really bad. i don’t understand how this ‘keeps with the tradition of the ball park’ or whatever. why not just park a prius (with emergency brake on) in front of the marquee and call it a day
by munale on Mar 17, 2010 5:27 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Well, let's look at it this way....
New ownership of the Red Sox plastered signs all over Fenway.
New ownership brought Red Sox fans a pennant and a World Series.
Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc. (I hope and pray.)
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Mar 17, 2010 6:45 PM CDT reply actions
Fortunately I watched 'The West Wing' religiously and know what this term means...
"Look, what do you want me to do?"
by Zeke on Mar 17, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't like it.
But I’m a realist. Like Al said, it’s 2010, and it costs hundreds of millions of dollars to run a team, even more hundreds of millions to run a WINNING team. And what you said about the Red Sox ownership is absolutely true. So, I’m willing to nash my teeth and accept this stuff as a necessary evil in modern baseball….IF you want to win, which we all do. When we win it all, no one will be saying, “Yeah, we won it all, but that Toyota billboard is really ugly.”
Having said that, can I make one request of Cubs marketing people? Quit insulting our intelligence by saying that this stuff is made to preserve the feel of the ballpark. It does nothing of the sort. It’s 180 degrees opposite of what the feel of the ballpark is. Stop making dumb statements like this. The billboard is a done deal, we’ll accept it and hope it makes us a lot of money that will help us win, but please shut up about preserving the feel of the ballpark. You’re not fooling anyone.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
Nobody gives a crap
The phony holier than thou sanctity for Wrigley Field is a load of crap. Those of us who routinenly go to games at Wrigley (me since 1977) DO NOT CARE if the Tribune Company, Sam Zell or now Tom Ricketts further prostitutes Wrigley Field. The place is old and in need of upgrades to begin with. And if the Ricketts family wants to stretch the revenue generating opportunities available then GO FOR IT. Sell the naming rights of the park to the manufacturers of Tampons for all I care. Put up a jumbotron. Paint the grass pink. - THE ONLY thing good Cub fans care about is winning a World Series in their lifetimes. The ambiance and atmosphere of Wrigley is vastly, vastly overrated, and typically is blather uttered by those who rarely if ever even go to the neighborhood or ballpark.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
I'm a 'good Cubs fan' and couldn't disagree more with you...
…so please don’t speak for me. Your opinions are yours, and yours alone.
"Look, what do you want me to do?"
Keep your photos Zeke....Wrigley Field pics will forever be known as "before Toyota" and "after Toyota".
look at that picture above…see the green grass and the blue sky….now imagine that big red logo out there. ugh :(
"Nady and his weak beard steps in" --Cubbie-Tim on Mar 12, 2010 9:53 PM
by cooliogirl47 on Mar 18, 2010 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions
The green grass and blue sky aren't going anywhere.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
but it'll be ruined....it'll have a big red slash in it like a drunken Zorro took his sword to it
"Nady and his weak beard steps in" --Cubbie-Tim on Mar 12, 2010 9:53 PM
by cooliogirl47 on Mar 18, 2010 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
drunken Zorro - lol
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze
Hi eths...might not see ya at game today,
I’ll bring my computer to work, but dont know if I’ll have time to go on…..Go Little Bears!
"Nady and his weak beard steps in" --Cubbie-Tim on Mar 12, 2010 9:53 PM
by cooliogirl47 on Mar 18, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
lmao
live the drunken Zorro line.
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
How different is that from the big red Budweiser roof
That used to live in the same spot?
Seriously…
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
That sign was across the street
on private property. So, therefore it wasn’t the Cubs placing the sign.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Mar 20, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
It's no different from a "visual" point of view.
A giant red image in the view of the LF bleachers. Same thing…
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
But Harry Caray...
…was a Bud Man. (And a Cubs fan.) Therefore it flies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnwyYjaf_CI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4jw_fDOgXM
"With Chance on first, and Evers on third,
Great things from the Cubs will soon be heard."
I'm not totally for the advertising...
but would it be all that different from the former red budweiser rooftop or current horseshoe ad? I know the Horseshoe ad is at least black now, but from Zeke’s picture, it would be putting up an ad which gives the cubs more payroll and upgrades in place of one that gives the cubs nothing, without looking very different from where that picture was taken…
by portlandcubfan on Mar 18, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I go to many games....
…I care. If advertising is a must then do what needs to be done, but do it with a little sensitivity. That Toyota sign is not with sensitivity.
depends on what it looks like.
I want to see a real mockup.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 17, 2010 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
See Below
How does that sign take into account the history of Wrigley? As mentioned above it could be green or maybe even white, but no it has to be red to get maximum viewing impact. Also mentioned below advertising is inherently insensitive to get your attention.
And how does this change the history of Wrigley?
It’s still here. It’s still the home of the Cubs.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I'll remember this the next time you complain about Ronnie Woo Woo...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Seriously, what does that have to do with this?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
For a lot of (misguided) folks, Woo Woo is part of the Wrigley Field game day experience
so in effect that makes him a part of the history of Wrigley. He could walk around in regular clothes and keep quiet, but no, he has to wear a uniform and screech at the top of his lungs to get maximum viewing impact. He is inherently insensitive to get your attention.
Clearly he bothers you and I’m sure you’d wish nothing else than for him to be gone from Wrigley. But his antics shouldn’t matter to you because Wrigley is still here. It’s still the home of the Cubs.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
This doesn't make any sense.
He’s not “part of Wrigley”. He’s an annoying person who’s there to promote himself. He DOES detract from the ballpark experience.
A sign doesn’t get in the way of baseball. Well, maybe for you, if a ball hits the sign instead of making the street.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
He detracts from YOUR ballpark experience, but others seem to enjoy him.
In a similar vein, many folks probably share your indifference to increased advertising, but to many others, it detracts from their ballpark experience.
Just like the high costs of concessions. Or the drunken fans’ behavior in the bleachers. Or the high ticket prices. Or the mean ushers. Or the constant announcements over the loud PA system. Or the vendors always walking in front of you. Or the long lines for the restrooms. Or the “throw it back” custom.
Some of these generate revenue for the Cubs, some don’t. Some get in the way of baseball for many folks and some don’t. But they (and many more) are all part of the ballpark experience.
So just because a sign doesn’t bother you, doesn’t mean it doesn’t bother other people. And I know you’re very supportive of allowing other folks to have and express their opinions here. That’s not the point. It just seemed to me like you were very dismissive of the “no more advertising” perspective here just because it didn’t bother you.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Well, like I said.
It’s my opinion. Personally, I’d like the Cubs to have as much revenue as possible to make them a winning team. Advertising doesn’t bother me — as long as it’s not overwhelming (as in some of the newer ballparks).
To each his or her own.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Your key words
as long as it’s not overwhelming (as in some of the newer ballparks).
And here in lies the problem. How much is enough? What I personally fear is having a Chase Field East.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Mar 18, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't imagine that will happen.
And I agree, that would be way too much.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
it all comes down to what one is used to
and how they react to the change.
For me, I look at what I had at Chicago Stadium 25-30 years ago and even that place evolved to small ad boards on the 1st balcony facade and even the ads on the dasher boards.
It didn’t diminish the 3,663 pipe Barton organ, the goal-scored fog horns or the Messmer Anthem. But Chicago Stadium did change and significantly for me.
Now at the UC, there’s 2 full sets of ribbon boards and a bunch of centre ice scoreboard ads. Stupid games during the intermissions and other contests. It’s a train-wreck for me vs the Stadium. At least they don’t play that stupid Johnny Glitter song or have to prompt us to “make some noise”. But overall the ’Hawks had to adjust. The biggest one was going from zero skyboxes to over 200 of them.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Mar 18, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
"Sensitive" advertising
(holding back a laugh)
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Mar 17, 2010 11:48 PM CDT reply actions
Would have preferred
a jumbotron in that spot, but I don’t mind a sign there, as long as the money earned from the sign helps improve the team.
Chicago Tribune: Cubs owners swing for the fences with proposed giant sign
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-0318-wrigley-signage—20100317,0,6417855.story?page=1
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze
And also in the Sun Times
Cubs want OK for illuminated Toyota sign at Wrigley Field
http://www.suntimes.com/news/cityhall/2108508,cubs-billboard-toyota-sign-031710.article
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze
If it looks like that,
it really doesn’t bother me as much as I thought it would. Just one ugly ad blocking another ugly ad.
"Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air."-Pat Hughes
Yeah, if that's the intended look, it's not as bad as I thought either.
"Look, what do you want me to do?"
I'd rather have the name changed!!!!! Toyota Field ok????
"Nady and his weak beard steps in" --Cubbie-Tim on Mar 12, 2010 9:53 PM
Please - No
BTW: I think the Wrigley family and/or company would have to agree to a renaming, if memory serves me correctly.
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze
If it keeps them from putting in a tron
(mini, jumbo or otherwise) for a little longer I guess I’m OK with it.
Personally, I’d be more upset if we were talking about ads that are on or surrounding the playing field itself. But if I can get over the Under Armour ad (not saying I like it-just that I finally got over it) I suppose I can get over a big Toyota ad.
"Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air."-Pat Hughes
Sitting in Munich, as I am, I really don't have any say in this, but
1) If the sign does not go up there, they could always work out a deal with one of the roof tops, for a net result which would look, imho, rather similar. The Ricketts could probably just buy, with pocket money, one of the buildings on the other side of the street, if the current owners don’t want to rent their roofs for signage.
2) It is surely better than a Jumbotron, which wouldn’t be “open” like the mock up is.
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
@Twitter as @brommmietze
I think it was the "openness" of the mock up
that kept me from freaking out about this. I was picturing something much worse in my mind.
"Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air."-Pat Hughes
The proposed sign looks PERFECTLY fine
Do it. Now. And tell Mayor Daley and Tom Tunney they have much, much bigger crisises to deal with as elected officials of Chicago.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Of course they do.
However, this does come under Tunney’s purview as an alderman. Aldermen deal with neighborhood issues. This is included in that.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I'm sick and tired of Daley and Tunney making trouble for the Cubs
I hope that the Ricketts family has the balls to stand up to Daley and say we ain’t playing the political game pal. You just wait until a major renovation plan gets formally announced….Daley will once again stick his nose in where it doesn’t belong and make things a bureaucratic hell for the Cubs. Ricketts needs to call Daley out on the carpet when this happens. The Tribune Company always tried to play nice with Daley’s strong arm tactics.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
I don't know where you've been the last few years, but Tunney has been a complete pushover...
…when it comes to negotiating anything with the Cubs.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Not quite
Tunney has lorded over the Cubs on the landmark status of the ballclub. And Daley has fought the Cubs tooth and nail on literally anything they have wanted to do.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Landmark status of Wrigley Field was "lorded over" by...
…first the Committee on Historical Landmark Preservation (of which Tunney is NOT a member) and then the City Council as a whole (of which Tunney is one of 50 members).
Initial efforts (by whom or what factions I don’t know) wanted the entirety of Wrigley Field landmarked so it would be near impossible to make any type of structural changes. What eventually came out of all this was the landmarking of the scoreboard, the outfield brick walls, and the marquee. Quite a difference.
The Cubs got to install those dugout seats, those bullpen seats, expand the bleachers, and put in the “batter’s eye” restaurant in the CF bleacher area, and the Cap’n Morgan establishment along Addison. They’ve also (re)established their ownership on the stretch of Seminary Ave next to the ballpark, and are well on their way towards the beginning of the Triangle Building development effort. Oh, and they’ve pretty much had their way w.r.t. having concerts at Wrigley – both in number and when.
Yes, there have been a few bumps along the way, most likely orchestrated by Daley and his lieutenants. But to suggest Tunney has been front and center in strong defiance towards anything the Cubs have wanted to do is just not accurate.
So let me ask you – please describe something the Cubs have NOT been able to get (that they really wanted) due to Tunney being the primary roadblock.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I hear
it was Tunney who made that sculptor leave out the apostrophe on the Banks statue.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 18, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
ahh... fighting BLou's battles for him now, are you Drew? ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
its true
Tunney also forced Hendry to sign Bradley
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
he made
Soto get fat.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 19, 2010 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
And forced the Cubs to use Kevin Gregg as closer.
And then didn’t want them to relieve him of that job in August.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 20, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
And made Lou use Aaron Heilman in all those games.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
And made Ted Lilly........what am I thinking about, no one could make
Ted Lilliy do anything except Ted Lilly.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 20, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
he tried to turn Ted Lilly into a newt
when Ted tossed him out into the lake, that’s when Ted injured his shoulder.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 20, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Is Tunney the guy who invited the Germans to bomb Pearl Harbor (or was in Navy Pier)?
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind." - Terry 'Fat Tub of Goo' Forster
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As long as the place doesn't migrate too close
to all the other ADHD-riddled places, like Chase Field for instance.
It’s a slippery slope. How much is enough? And how much of one change precipitates another?
For me, the blaring sound often accompanied by the big ribbon boards and jumbotron is the most egregious.
Just win the next game...!
I've changed my mind. Bring on the sign!
A couple things here … the “Citgo” sign at Fenway: iconic or obtrusive? The old Torco sign: iconic or obtrusive? Those opposed to this sign are bothered because it does what? Block the view of another advertisement? Others are stating they need to get rid of the gambling ad and return the space to the brewer. I don’t think it’s because gambling is bad and beer is good – I suppose it’s resistance to change, not resistance to what the new item stands for.
Last time I was at Wrigley, the only fans on the rooftops were standing on the flat roofs, holding a beer in one hand, and grilling dogs and brats in the other. If you’re offended by the greed that’s bringing this sign to our ballpark, you should have been fighting those rooftop seats from day one. Those seats are MUCH more of an eyesore to the neighborhood than one 320 sf sign will be. Especially during day games, when the sign probably won’t be noticed.
When I first heard about the new sign, I was offended. Now that I’ve thought about it, it’s just one very tiny step in the constant evolution of the park I love. It is what it is, and nothing more.
by JimWa on Mar 18, 2010 1:31 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Advertisements should help with payroll
Cubs are losing some core parts to the team next year that they might not be able to afford to resign. If billboards can add a few million to payroll they should be doing more of it. If the team is earning more money to raise the payroll and improve the park that’s all that matters.
The Chicago Cubs are a business and you look for more ways to make more money in your company.
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