What Will Happen To Mike Parisi?
by Musicdude10 on Mar 17, 2010 2:42 PM CDT
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PrintMike Parisi, the Rule 5 pick from the Cardinals is in a tough position. He's had a good spring but not great. He has a 4.05 ERA in 6.2 IP and 2 HR's given up. He also has four strike outs compared to one walk. I don't think he's good enough to make the rotation but I think he deserves a spot on this team. While you don't want a David Patton situation to occur, Parisi has some good stuff and I think with some work with Rothschild, he could be a good bull pen arm to have. Given the shortage of arms, Parisi is a RHP who has some experience (albeit he was far from lights out in 2008) in the majors. What say you?
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I could see him in the pen.
Not like he would be a workhorse of any kind, but I could see him out there occasionally and wouldn’t cringe. Then again, I wouldn’t shed a tear to send him back to the Cards either.
He'll go north with the Cubs
See action in 4 or 5 games, and be on the DL for the rest of the season. Meanwhile, Piniella will lament how a nagging injury or two affects team depth.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
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by Shanghai Badger on Mar 17, 2010 3:00 PM CDT reply actions
Then he will be with us next year as well
Source
Important part is in bold below.
Rule 5 Draft
The Rule 5 draft is held each December at the Winter Meetings, and it consists of a Major League portion and a minor league portion. By November 20, each club must set its 40-man roster and submit reserve lists for all major and minor-league levels (See Minor League Rosters). Between November 20 and the Rule 5 draft, a club may add Major League free agents to its 40-man roster but may not add any player from its minor league reserve lists.
After 4 or 5 years as a professional, a player must be added to his club’s 40-man roster or exposed to the 29 other clubs in the Rule 5 draft. (Under the new CBA, a club has 5 years to evaluate a player who signs his first pro contract at 18 years old or younger, but only 4 years to decide on a player who signs at age 19.) For purposes of calculating years as a pro, the counting begins the day a player signs his first pro contract, not the season he begins to play.
Clubs draft in reverse order of their won-loss records in the previous season, and only clubs with less than 40 players on their rosters may take part. To select an eligible player, a drafting club pays $50,000 to the player’s original club. The drafting club must keep the player on its 25-man active roster for all of the next season or put him on waivers. If a third club claims the player on waivers, the third club also must keep him in the majors all season. If the player clears waivers, he must be offered back to his original club for $25,000. A drafting club may work out a trade with the player’s original club so that the drafting club can keep him and send him to the minor leagues.
If, because of injury, a player selected in the Rule 5 draft spends less than 90 days on the active Major League roster, he also must remain on the Major League roster the next season until he earns 90 days of service. Otherwise, he must be put on waivers and offered back to his original club.
The Rule 5 draft also includes two minor-league phases. In the AAA phase, a player not protected on his club’s 40-man roster or 38-man AAA reserve list may be selected for $12,000. In the AA phase, a player not protected on his club’s 40-man roster, 38-man AAA reserve list or 37-man AA reserve list may be selected for $4,000. A player selected in the minor-league phase of the Rule 5 draft is not required to play the next season with his drafting club at the higher organizational level.
I know. The point was that they'll do the same thing they did with Patton.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 18, 2010 5:32 AM CDT up reply actions
I hope not.
The Cubs don’t need to have a pitcher who sits in the bullpen, pitches every ten days so he sucks because of rust, and then gets stashed on the DL the very second he passes the 90-day mark.
This is a very good argument for only having 11 pitchers.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
They will, though. Whether it's Parisi or someone else.
They did the same with Lieber in 2008. Then Hendry was indignant when I asked him about carrying 12.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 18, 2010 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I know.
It’s really inexplicable. They carry a 12th pitcher, who rarely gets in games and then is awful because of the aforementioned rust, and then complain because they don’t have the versatility on the bench.
IMHO, no team needs more than 11 pitchers.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Completely agreed.
Since they can shuttle players with options back and forth essentially as needed, they should take advantage of that to get fresh arms if necessary.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 18, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Rothschild apparently is the reason for 12 pitchers
“The bench players who are set include Nady, Koyie Hill, and either Mike Fontenot or Jeff Baker (whoever isn’t starting). In a “perfect scenario,” Lou Piniella said Sunday, the Cubs would carry 11 pitchers. Pitching coach Larry Rothschild is insisting on 12.
“I keep talking to Larry and he keeps shaking his head,” Piniella said."
(http://muskat.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/03/314_building_the_bench.html)
I read that, also.
I’m not sure that I buy it.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 18, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he makes the club as the
12th man on the staff, but will be of much more use than David Patton was last year. Parisi will likely fill the long man/spot starter/mop up guy role … if he goes north with us.
On what planet do you live on to suggest the Cubs have wondrous pitching depth at the major league level?
Good grief.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
In this universe,
They have about the same, if not, more depth than the St. Louis Cardinals.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 17, 2010 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, there you go again.
Trying to talk facts with BLou.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
if mike parisi had not been taken in the draft, parisi would be competing for a roster spot in memphis,
not for one on the cardinals 25-man. in the cardinals org, parisi would fall behind hill, garcia, mcclellan, boggs, walters, hawksworth, jukich, evan maclane, lance lynn, and probably trey hearne (and he didn’t even get a spring training invite).
if he is in competition for a roster spot for the cubs, then the cubs pitching depth is poorer than that of the cardinals.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
Well stated
Accurate. Not snarky or condescending. Some of the people who post here ought to take notes.
+1
Wish people could argue points like this more often.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 18, 2010 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions
That's typical of most Rule 5 picks
You’re always looking for a guy who you see more value in than his current club, or you think he is more developed than his current club.
If you pick a Rule 5 player, I think you have 3 things in mind:
1. You want more depth at spring training to compete at his position.
2. You think you have enough depth at his position to carry him on the 25-man roster.
3. You think you can discuss a trade for him later instead of returning him to his original team.
"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver
by RiskyBusiness on Mar 18, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Point 3 is the key here.
I think that would be the best scenario for Parisi.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Was Eric Hinske a Rule 5 pick from the Cubs?
And then traded instead of being returned to the Cubs?
"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver
by RiskyBusiness on Mar 18, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes.
He was traded for Miguel Cairo near the end of spring training in 2001.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
maybe that is what happened to ERICHANNA
BCB lost him in a Rule 5 draft
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
if you think that dave duncan is misappraising parisi's talent, then you'd be right.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
Reading comprehension, my cartoon villain friend.
I never suggested the Cubs have wonderous pitching depth at the major league level. That was precisely the point of my question.
I saw that one and knew what you meant.
You said “the shortage of MLB experienced arms”. Nowhere in there do you mention the Cubs.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 18, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Right, what I meant was...
…the Cubs do not have a shortage of arms. The team invited, what, 20 to 30 pitchers to camp? They do, however, have a shortage of MLB-experienced arms for the bullpen. So if that’s what musicdude meant by the phrase in question, I have no problem with it. But I think it’s an important point to clarify.
Look in the context of other people..
We have 12 slots (11 if Lou gets his way)
Z, Demp, Wells, Lilly, Marshall, Marmol, Caridad, Grabow – Locks
Gorzo, Silva, Shark – Probables
One spot left, unless you cut one of the probables, so do you keep him ahead of all of these:
Gaub, Stevens, Berg, Parker, Cashner, Diamond, Russel, Coleman, potential acquisition (maybe the most likely)
It will come down to Lou’s desire for bench depth on the offensive side – he’s not going to give up a spot so we can stash another pitcher.
by DisCUBbobulated on Mar 17, 2010 4:36 PM CDT reply actions
Parisi>Patton('09)
Patton had less competition.
I like Russell and Diamond better than Parisi. Neither is on the 40-man. Truth-be-told, I like those two more than Shark.
And with Lilly (and Gray?) getting ready to come back, it is less likely Parisi will make it all season.
My guess is that they sign a FA and keep the best one of the rest until Lilly gets back..
But I could see one of Gorz, Silva, or Shark getting cut and wouldn’t rule out another injury, so there may be a chance to stash an extra pitcher. I’d put Parisi’s chance at going north at <<1%, though I agree he’s better than Patton – and there’d be the added glee of stealing from the Cardinal’s already-depleted farm system.
by DisCUBbobulated on Mar 17, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Name a FA
You’d want on this team
There are none
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
i am a FA i would love to see in Cubbie Blue
but not due to my ability or lack of MLB abilities
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
Lol put me in that category as well
FWIW I throw a pretty solid 2 seamer. It may only be 70 mph but it’s got movement
Curse my right-handedness though
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
by Musicdude10 on Mar 19, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
How about someone yet to be cut...
There’s some deep pens out there, and I’m sure many of those guys are out of options.
by DisCUBbobulated on Mar 19, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm fine with trying to find another Reed Johnson situation
But you can’t always count on it
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
I could see them
shipping Shark back to Iowa to keep on the starter track (a mistake, IMO, but it isn’t my choice to make). That would open up another spot in the ’pen for a “true” reliever.
As noted above… I think they will try to work a deal with the Cards to keep Parisi but send him down.
That's what I'd like to see happen
Shark isn’t making the rotation and I think they have to at least try and let him get a little more time to show he can be a starter.
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Mar 17, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
What I would do with him,
Is send him down to the minors. If that doesn’t work, release him. Someone else is bound to pick him up, or he could always go into football too.
Not sure why he’s got a no-trade clause, but IMO, he should be on a very short leash at this point.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 17, 2010 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
he got a no trade clause
to keep him from going into football.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 18, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think he makes the team
He’s better than Patton though. At least he’s pitched above A ball. In any case, I just don’t know why we would keep him. What would he bring to the table that Berg or Diamond can’t? Mateo, even. That isn’t even taking into accound the guys making their way through the system, the lefties in contention, or the injured Jeff Gray.
by Mulhollandmania on Mar 17, 2010 5:04 PM CDT reply actions
Parisi could start
or be a long reliever. I’m not sure Diamond or Russell could go five innings in a shotgun start. Probably with an ERA in the 4.8 range.
I’m up for keeping the best 12, regardless who they are.
Probably no
You keep him because he actually earns a spot on the roster not because you don’t want to give him back to the Birds, but the odds are strongly against him being one of the 11 or 12 best pitching candidates.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
I would imagine someone
(KC/Pitt/Houston) pick him up.
Someone has to have someone totally worthless in their pen.
Yeah, lets pretend where the Kansas City Royals again and dick around with a Rule 5 player on the roster all year long
After all, the David Patton experiment worked out swimmingly. Screw the roster spot !! Lets piss it away on another probable failed experiment.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Which gem would you have kept?
Shark (who you hate)?
Vizcaino?
Gaudin?
It was those three and Patton for the last spot. At least now we have a minor trade chip. None of our four options were good. At least Al is willing to say he preferred Shark.
Which should we have kept instead?
Or we could have dealt Colvin or Castro for someone middling. Maybe you’d have preferred that.
Help me out Dorothy
Are we in Kansas? Did the Cubs transmogrify into the Washington Nationals or Kansas City Royals and I just failed to read the memo? Patton? Parisi? Pardon me while I step outside to vomit.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Do tell, ToTo
I don’t think Patton (or Parisi) will ever be a mainstay of any reasonable bullpen. Ever.
You hate answering questions, apparently. Which pen arm should we have kept instead of Patton? Al gave his answer. I disagree with him, but I respect his willingness to answer.
Gaudin? Vizcaino? Shark?
I’d keep Russell or Diamond over Parisi this year. But it might be too much to ask for you to tip your hand before it happens. Then you could be called out later for being wrong.
Okay Tinman
Help me out here. Weren’t the 2009 Cubs billed as one of the best teams in the NL entering the season? And weren’t they this big payroll team with big expectations? So how then do you go from that description to having actually room in your bullpen to carry David Friggin Patton for a full season? That is a tactic adopted by a low payroll ballclub with ZERO chance of winning anything and therefore in a position to take a flyer on somebody.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Wait,
“Weren’t the 2009 Cubs billed as one of the best teams in the NL entering the season?”
A year from now, they might be saying this same thing over at VEB (just with “2010 Cardinals” instead of “2009 Cubs”).
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 17, 2010 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
By years of neglect and abuse of the farm system,
dating back to the Wrigley days. Tim Wilken is making things better, though you’d rather root for the White Sox than admit it. We have a number of guys ‘close’ to being able to compete for MLB status in 2011 or sooner. In the pen, in the rotation, in the outfield, in the middle infield, we even have five or six adequate catchers in the pipeline.
Jim Hendry, who you apparently loathe, had to overspend when Cubs fans quit showing up for bad baseball in late 2006. Soriano and others were signed to terrible contracts, as the other option was no fans in the stands. Our system was barren. Hendry, Wilken, and Flieta (who you also detest) have upgraded the talent pool (enough about Shark, already) in the last few drafts. Or maybe all the guys we have that are intriguing to other scouts got better by luck. Then your Three Evils don’t deserve any credit.
Last year was a disaster. Randy Wells had a very good year, but that was offset by many disappointing seasons, and a really good second half by the Cardinals. The RedBirds followed your strategy of mortgaging the future for the present. It got them a division. It also short-circuited their talent pipeline.
On to 2010, the Cardinals deserve to be the favorites. If they have a few ill-timed injuries, and if the Cubs play up to near their potential, it could be an entertaining race.
Patton added us depth, which we (like the Royals, Pirates, Astros, White Sox, and others also) could use. The Rockies announcers said in the Cubs series that they wished they still had Patton. It would really be nice if you could go from horrible to consistently amazing in four or five months. It took Steinbrenner a couple decades with all his money. His success was keyed by solid drafting. Is it worth name-calling to admit David Patton didn’t cost us fifteen games? It’s not like we released Mariano Rivera to get him.
Since you still refuse to answer my question of which of the three they should have kept. If we had the Red Sox (or Marlins, or Rangers, or Devil Rays) pitching depth in the system, no problemo. Keep a good pitcher. We had severe pitching depth issues. Not only last year, but for most of the last 80 years. I’m glad your Three Evils are changing that.
Come to think of it, don’t answer my question. At least then, you’re consistent.
Since the Cubs paid his salary, I’ll vote for Gaudin who was actually better than Patton. Not to mention that the Cubs had to release Gaudin rather than trade him in order to make room for Patton. Patton is so good that the Cubs have already sent him to the minor league camp this year.
by FrankSereno on Mar 17, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks, Frank
for answering my question. I still hold out hope that he will be considered trade bait in the next few years. Maybe yes, maybe no. But I appreciate opinions on this topic.
I hope to hear your preference on the rotation as the opener approaches.
Don't expect an answer from BLou.
He’s never going to bother reading a comment that detailed – and he’d probably willfully misinterpret it if he did.
That is completely False
Plenty of Clubs have taken Rule 5 picks, kept them on their roster, and been competitive teams.
Hall of Famers
* Roberto Clemente
[edit] All Stars
* George Bell
* Paul Blair
* Bobby Bonilla
* Jody Davis
* Darrell Evans
* Kelly Gruber
* Josh Hamilton
* Willie Hernández
* Dave Hollins
* John Hudek Selected in minor league portion.
* Dave May
* Mike Morgan
* Jeff Nelson
* Scott Podsednik Selected in minor league portion.
* Bip Roberts
* Johan Santana
* Joakim Soria
* Manny Trillo Selected in minor league portion.
* Derrick Turnbow
* Dan Uggla
* Shane Victorino (twice)
* Fernando Viña
"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver
by RiskyBusiness on Mar 18, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
While that is all true...
… clearly, a year ago, David Patton wasn’t anywhere close to making this list, yet they kept him anyway.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
No, but to say Rule 5 is only for low payroll clubs is completely false
The Yankees took Jamie Hoffmann in December from the Dodgers.
"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver
by RiskyBusiness on Mar 18, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
"The dark side clouds everything. Impossible to see the future is."
"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver
by RiskyBusiness on Mar 18, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
That's a good list of good players
But how did their respective teams do the years that they kept them on the roster as Rule 5 picks?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 18, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure the win loss was across the sprectrum
Shane Victorino did not play much for the Phillies in 2005, but they won 88 games “carrying him”.
But to say Rule 5 is only for the Marlins to take players from the Yankees is completely untrue.
"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver
by RiskyBusiness on Mar 18, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough.
I hadn’t carefully read the post that you were responding to…you made the point.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 18, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
You do realize that Sweet Lou
is the manager who had the immortal Rule 5 Luis Ugueto on his roster for an entire season (no DL stint), played him in 62 games with 25 PA and 74 innings in the field. Ugueto was the #3 backup infielder behind Desi Relatord and Mark McLemore, and spent most of his time pinch running for Edgar Martinez and their two catchers (Ben Davis and Dan Wilson).
So I believe that if Parisi makes the team, he’ll pitch every fifth day as long as Carlos Silva is in the rotation, as well as the 7th-9th whenever they get down 5+ runs.
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
by Invalid User on Mar 17, 2010 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
The Cubs are in a boatload more trouble than I thought if they are actually contemplating keeping Parisi
The David Patton thing was like playing a man short on the roster last year. It was a complete and total joke. It would have made sense if the Cubs were in line for a 5th or 6th place finish and they had scouting view that Patton could one day be special with the right kind of development, but c’mon — the odds of Patton even becoming a big league pitcher for real in a few years are marginal at absolute best.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
For once, I agree with you.
About the Patton situation. I don’t know what he was doing on the roster all season when he was hardly ever used.
There is a possibility the Cubs can pick up a bullpen arm during the season. Who would you recommend they pick up? Maybe Hendry can work out a trade, because, despite all the tirades about the bullpen, I agree with you that it does not exactly inspire confidence right now. If the Cubs trade for someone, who would you want it to be?
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 18, 2010 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Frasor or Gregorson
I’d rather see Gregorson as of today given Frasor’s poor ST so far but that could change in a few months
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by Musicdude10 on Mar 19, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
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