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Lawrence Peter Berra-Living Legend




I was reading Al's signature line the other day and got to thinking about Yogi Berra. He is one of the most loved figures in the national pastime.  Loved, but not revered like Ruth, Mays, DiMaggio, Aaron or Williams are-why is that exactly?

It certainly isn't because his on-field exploits aren't substantial. Leaving aside a cup of coffee he had with the Yankees in 1946, he is simply the greatest winner in the history of our game. From 1947 to 1964 he either played for or managed the Yankees in 14 out of 17 World Series while winning ten. He has one for both thumbs!!! He has 3 Most Valuable Player awards-matching Stan Musial, Roy Campanella, Mickey Mantle and Mike Schmidt-forget Baroid. In World Series play he ranks first in hits, doubles and at bats; second in runs and rbi; and third in home runs and bases on balls. He even managed that 1973 Mets team with just 82 wins into the World Series.

And I don't think it's because of his gift of reshaping the English language with malapropisms. You all know a lot of them-they are even published in book form somewhere.

And I also don't think it's the delightfully goofy commercials he's been cast in. I will admit, however, that the Aflac commercial where he renders the duck speechless might be the best ad in the last 20 years.

I subscribe to what I'll call the "Video Theory". Think of all the video replays that you see which feature Yogi Berra:

1) Jackie Robinson steals home in the 1955 World Series; Berra argues the call vehemently.

2) Yogi Berra hits the ball that could tie the 7th game of the 1955 World Series; Sandy Amoros comes from out of nowhere to catch the ball in the left field corner and start a double play.

3) Don Larsen strikes out Dale Mitchell to finish his perfect game in the 1956 World Series; Yogi runs to the mound and jumps into Larsen's arms which is kind of bass-ackwards.

4) Bill Mazeroski hits the home run to win the 1960 World Series; Yogi is the one peeling away from the left field wall.

5) Roger Maris hits his 61st home run in 1961; there to greet him at the plate and shake his hand is Yogi-remember Mantle was injured.

There just aren't any highlights in heavy rotation where Yogi is hitting the home run or getting the big hit to win the game. He always seems to be on the periphery of the huge moment but not the cause of the action. That's what I think, anyway.

Thoughts? Discuss.

 

 


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Remember, this is a man who was popular enough in his own time — the 1950’s — that Hanna/Barbera named a cartoon character after him (Yogi Bear).

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 17, 2010 11:55 PM CDT reply actions  

He is simply

a good man, who stood up to George who fired him after, I think about 12 games.
 Yogi is class.

by Grockcubs on Mar 18, 2010 7:49 AM CDT reply actions  

nice post, thanks

"Nady and his weak beard steps in" --Cubbie-Tim on Mar 12, 2010 9:53 PM

by cooliogirl47 on Mar 18, 2010 8:17 AM CDT reply actions  

Yogi and Casey put a very human face on a team that won with inhuman regularity...

The 1950’s are often referred to as baseball’s Golden Age, especially by Yankees fans, for reasons that should be obvious. But those same DiMaggio and Mantle-era teams that today are remembered for their greatness often were despised by fans located in what any New Yorker considers to be Flyover Country. This was especially true on the south side, where the great Go-Go Sox of the 50’s and early 60’s almost always fell a few games short of a pennant.

If you were passionate about your local team, it was easy to hold a sneering contempt for the arrogant personas of DiMag and Mantle. But, perhaps because of his ungainly appearance and the fact that he hustled, Yogi escaped most of this hatred. For example, in a crucial play at Comiskey in late ‘57, Luis Aparicio took off for third when a pitch bounced off Yogi’s shoe. No Yankee was covering the base but, incredibly, Yogi was able to retrieve the ball, dash up the line, dive for the bag, and tag out one of baseball’s fastest men. As Yogi brushed off dirt after that play, some Sox fans actually were inspired to applaud his hustle.

Of course, all the Yogi stories and quotations as told by a New York-based national media won him many friends, as did the work of Hanna/Barbera, as Al noted above. For me, one of the earliest stories is the best – you know, the one where comic book-reading Yogi saw his medical student roommate Bobby Brown studying Gray’s Anatomy. As each set aside their reading material, Yogi casually asked “So how did yours turn out?” You have to love a guy like that.

"Elder White! Look at the talent on those Cubs!" Harry Caray, KMOX Radio, 4/22/62

"And you have to wonder – What's the matter with Broglio?" Harry, KMOX, 5/24/64

by ernaga on Mar 18, 2010 9:43 AM CDT reply actions  

How about Seth Rogen as Yogi? Danny DeVito would have been great in the role 20 years ago...

"Elder White! Look at the talent on those Cubs!" Harry Caray, KMOX Radio, 4/22/62

"And you have to wonder – What's the matter with Broglio?" Harry, KMOX, 5/24/64

by ernaga on Mar 18, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

interesting stuff....

…and I hadn’t heard the White Sox game story before.

by roost66 on Mar 19, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right

Baseball was actually in serious trouble in the 1950s. Attendance was down all over—including in New York, where two teams ended up high-tailing it to the West Coast. The Browns, Braves and Athletics also had to move.

It’s remembered as a Golden Age primarily because it was a golden age for publishing in general and sports writing in particular. You had all these literate guys coming out of college on the GI Bill and getting jobs in journalism (which for the first time actually hired college graduates) and publishing, as all these new college graduates throughout the country were buying books and magazines. Since the whole publishing industry was located in New York, they wrote a ton about three NY teams. That all three were actually really good helped too.

But after they got done writing about the gods of DiMaggio, Mantle, Mays and Robinson, they went looking for colorful characters to be the supporting cast in the baseball movie they were writing. Certainly Casey was one of them, but no one was better able to fill the role of the wacky best friend better than Lawrence Peter Berra. On top of what he said, there was Joe Garagiola who would come to town a few times a year with the Pirates and tell all kinds of childhood stories about Yogi, some true, some not so true. In some ways, like Fonzie or Urkel, Yogi Berra became the supporting character who stole the show.

It’s a little too bad, because we remember him more for the silly things attributed to him than his ballplaying. Because in career value, counting both offense and defense, Yogi Berra was probably the greatest catcher of all time. (I’m even counting Josh Gibson in that one.)

I never travel far without a little Big Star. R.I.P Alex

by Josh Timmers on Mar 20, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yogi's not the only all-time great whose feats seem diminished by accessibility...

Natural arrogance, as reflected in the general disdain that DiMaggio, Mantle, Mays, Aaron, Koufax, Gibson, Seaver and Spahn had for fans and media has only served to burnish their images and accomplishments in the public mind.

Meanwhile, the equally-impressive careers of fan-friendly greats like Yogi, Kaline, Duke, Fergie, Clemente, and especially Ernie and Stan the Man, often are overlooked outside the cities they represented.

Even the Babe’s reputation occasionally suffers from this phenomenon: In the mid-80’s, when Don Mattingly was tearing through baseball like a clone of Musial, he told a reporter that when he was growing up in Indiana, he always thought Babe Ruth was only a cartoon character.

"Elder White! Look at the talent on those Cubs!" Harry Caray, KMOX Radio, 4/22/62

"And you have to wonder – What's the matter with Broglio?" Harry, KMOX, 5/24/64

by ernaga on Mar 20, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Musial

Musial is an example of a guy who just wasn’t colorful enough. He wasn’t aloof like Koufax or colorful like Mantle. But he was probably one of the ten greatest hitters of all time and either the greatest hitter in NL history or the second greatest, depending on how you feel about Barry Bonds. I mean, everyone says Mays is the greatest living player and when you add in defense, maybe he was. But it really isn’t a slam dunk choice over Musial.

The problem with Musial is the media was never able to write a story for him. That’s what we do with ballplayers—we make heroes, villains and clowns out of them. Part of Musial’s problem was being as far from NY as you could get when he played—St. Louis. The other problem is that he just didn’t give the media a story.

I remember in the 1980s there was a week on “Late Night with David Letterman” in which the gag was that 30 Rock was haunted by “The Ghost of Stan Musial.” Then Musial would appear and Letterman would have a short conversation with Musial that always ended with “But Stan, you’re not dead” and then Musial would say yeah and plug his restaurant in St. Louis. It was a funny joke, but it was tragic too. Even by the 1980s, Stan the Man was such a forgotten memory that we all thought he was dead.

I never travel far without a little Big Star. R.I.P Alex

by Josh Timmers on Mar 20, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Stan had played 22 seasons for the Yankees instead of the Cards...

he might be ranked second only to Ruth on the list of all-time greats. But even playing in St. Louis, he got enough national recognition during his playing years so that, by the time he retired in ’63, he often was ranked among the top five all-time position players, along with Ruth, Cobb, Gehrig and Foxx. That late summer and fall of ’63, as Musial and the Cards made their final trip around the league in that near-pennant winning season, each team honored Stan with special ceremonies, where he routinely was described as the greatest all-around player in National League history.

And who at the time, other than a few holdouts for Honus Wagner, could argue? At the end of his career, Stan held MLB records for total bases and extra base hits: NL records for runs, hits, RBI, doubles, games played and consecutive games played. He was second only to Mel Ott on the NL career home runs list and, in career triples, second only to Paul Waner among post-1920 players. A seven-time batting champ over a 15-year span, with a .331 lifetime average, he was three times NL MVP. Also, in his first four seasons with the Cards, St. Louis won four pennants and three World Series, including victories in ‘42 against DiMaggio’s Yankees, and in ‘46 against Williams’ Red Sox.

Musial maintained his excellence as night baseball, racial integration, coast-to-coast schedules, television, and the evolution of relief pitching changed the way baseball was played – especially in the National League. In light of these achievements, how ridiculous was it a few years back to see Stan make baseball’s all-century team only as a charity pick by Bud Selig after voters failed to select him ahead of McGwire, Griffey, Rose, Ripken, et al?

"Elder White! Look at the talent on those Cubs!" Harry Caray, KMOX Radio, 4/22/62

"And you have to wonder – What's the matter with Broglio?" Harry, KMOX, 5/24/64

by ernaga on Mar 20, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Musial

You’re right. No one didn’t recognize Musial for the great he was when he was playing. The guy was a left-handed Albert Pujols. He won 3 MVPs and finished second four times (once to Jim Konstanty, proving that voters back then weren’t any smarter than they are now.)

But something happened after he retired. He really just faded from the public consciousness. Some of that was his lack of personality and some of it was that he played in St. Louis. Some of it had to be something else that I’m not thinking of.

I never travel far without a little Big Star. R.I.P Alex

by Josh Timmers on Mar 21, 2010 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Again, along with St. Louis, it goes back to accessibility, decency, civility, longevity...

not exactly things Big Media has found interesting in celebrities, especially since the mid-60’s which, of course, is around the time that Stan retired as a player.

Within days of his retirement, he was at the Oval Office, where JFK appointed him to the largely honorary position of National Physical Fitness Director. For all I know, he still holds that title at age 90. He’s been married to his high school sweetheart for 70 years. They have several children and a large extended family. He’s been a successful small businessman. The day after he got his 3,000th hit at Wrigley, he bought a new house for Dickie Kerr, the old White Sox pitcher who had converted Stan into an outfielder after Musial’s pitching career was cut short. And, unlike most visiting stars at Wrigley, you could count on Stan to sign autographs until the last kid walked away happy.

His two major contemporaries, Joe and Ted, didn’t exactly conduct themselves in this manner. But, as you indicate, their activities made better copy.

"Elder White! Look at the talent on those Cubs!" Harry Caray, KMOX Radio, 4/22/62

"And you have to wonder – What's the matter with Broglio?" Harry, KMOX, 5/24/64

by ernaga on Mar 21, 2010 7:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Stan The Man....

could he be Baseball’s greatest ghost? The Man is still alive and virtually no one speaks of his excellence on the diamond. Not too many players have 3,630 hits, my friends. Another great moment in the Ken Burns series comes when Curt Flood asked Musial for some batting advice and Musial said, “Well, Curtis-you just get a good pitch and you hit it.” Life should be so simple, eh??

by roost66 on Mar 21, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do you think Yogi

… suffered from being too likeable? Or the fact that he was always the #2 player on the team (by public perception)? Was he too accessible to the average fan?

Even in his MVP seasons, the Yankees had either DiMaggio, or Mantle, or both. When Yogi won his first MVP in 1951, DiMaggio was not all that good (hit around .263) and Mantle was a rookie who didn’t always play. However, 1951 was Joe DiMaggio’s farewell tour. Remember Griffey last year (when everyone THOUGHT it was his farewell tour)? Now imagine Griffey as a war hero who married the country’s biggest sex symbol. That was DiMaggio’s status in 1951. Yogi’s the #2 guy on that team. Mantle started earning MVP votes in 1952 and pretty much immediately settled into the space DiMaggio vacated in the hearts of Yankee fans. Like DiMaggio, Mickey was the young superstar with incredible talent. Yogi was the constant. Nowhere near as glamorous.

Yogi might have been too accessible to be the idol those other players were. If one guy hits 521 (and bats .406), 536 (switch hitting), 660 (and makes The Catch), 714 (and revolutionizes baseball) or 755 (and overtakes the “unbeatable record”) HRs and another guy says, “when you come to a fork in the road, take it,” which guy are you gonna idolize as a kid or a fan? Although, I suspect that Berra was well respected in most baseball clubhouses. Afterall, you don’t have Casey Stengel say, “I never play a game without my man” in reference to you without earning it. In that sense, Yogi was “a player’s player.”

When it comes to ballplayer respect, a lot of it stems from those “how’d he do that?” moments. Ted Williams and Joe DiMaggio were incredible talents but somewhat distant personalities. You never really got an answer from them. Come to think of it, you never really got an answer from any of the players listed. That mammoth HR or great catch was just who they were. Except Yogi. Yogi seemed to be good because he hustled. He did the grunt work (he was a catcher). That made him seem less removed from everyday life. Yogi seemed more human.

For Ruth, DiMaggio, Mantle, Mays, Williams, Aaron (who actually deserves MORE respect than he often gets) baseball success just seemed natural. It was in their DNA. They were born swating baseballs over fences and hitting .300. They seemed like gods. But you always saw Yogi work for it.

"It's Spring Training. You know how many home runs Barry Bonds hit off me? One - in Spring Training." - Big Z

by Phubbies on Mar 18, 2010 10:58 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

this is nice too....I got my first real glimpse of Yogi in "Capital of Baseball" I'm sure you know...history of NY baseball....

I remember the stuff about Stangle and the “without my man” reference….I thought that was really cool.

"Nady and his weak beard steps in" --Cubbie-Tim on Mar 12, 2010 9:53 PM

by cooliogirl47 on Mar 18, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

I don’t think I’ve encountered Capital of Baseball. I’ll have to find it.

I first heard the Stengel quote in the Ken Burns series.

"It's Spring Training. You know how many home runs Barry Bonds hit off me? One - in Spring Training." - Big Z

by Phubbies on Mar 18, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know what...now that you mention it...maybe that was the name of one of the segments from that series.

I’m really not sure tho.

"Nady and his weak beard steps in" --Cubbie-Tim on Mar 12, 2010 9:53 PM

by cooliogirl47 on Mar 18, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah...

… you’re right! I didn’t realize that! “7th Inning – the Capital of Baseball.” (I think there may even a sub-section that uses that Stengel quote as its title, but I couldn’t swear to it.) Huh. Well, I guess I know what I’m rewatching when I leave work today!

"It's Spring Training. You know how many home runs Barry Bonds hit off me? One - in Spring Training." - Big Z

by Phubbies on Mar 18, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

As Updike wrote of Teddy Ballgame: "Gods do not answer letters."

While familiarity didn’t breed any public contempt for Yogi, it certainly didn’t add to his mystique or, as others’ might say, his “aura of reek.”

"Elder White! Look at the talent on those Cubs!" Harry Caray, KMOX Radio, 4/22/62

"And you have to wonder – What's the matter with Broglio?" Harry, KMOX, 5/24/64

by ernaga on Mar 18, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Had Forgotten...

…that quote about Ted Williams. It’s kinda sums up Williams’ relationship with the public nicely.

Yeah, Yogi’s so loveable, you almost forget to respect him. There is no mystique, he’s right out in the open for everyone to see.

"It's Spring Training. You know how many home runs Barry Bonds hit off me? One - in Spring Training." - Big Z

by Phubbies on Mar 18, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Phil Linz and the Mick certainly thought so in '64, waiting on the bus outside Comiskey...

http://www.travel-watch.com/harmonica.htm

"Elder White! Look at the talent on those Cubs!" Harry Caray, KMOX Radio, 4/22/62

"And you have to wonder – What's the matter with Broglio?" Harry, KMOX, 5/24/64

by ernaga on Mar 19, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting story.

I had not heard that story before.

"It's Spring Training. You know how many home runs Barry Bonds hit off me? One - in Spring Training." - Big Z

by Phubbies on Mar 19, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

all excellent points....

and I agree with you about his work ethic. Kudos also to former Yankee Bill Dickey who taught Yogi the finer points of the catching position which also was explained in “The Capital Of Baseball”.

by roost66 on Mar 19, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you. You make some excellent points yourself.

Until your post, I hadn’t realized how little footage is shown of Yogi making an outstanding plays. Between the abundance of information on Yogi as a personality and the shortage of famous highlight footage starring Yogi’s athletic ability, it’s somewhat incredible that anyone remembers how great a player he actually was. This is a man who won 3 MVPs!

"It's Spring Training. You know how many home runs Barry Bonds hit off me? One - in Spring Training." - Big Z

by Phubbies on Mar 19, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe it's Height

Berra is listed at 5’ 7" and very short compared to the others you listed. Willie Mays is listed at 5’ 10" and all the others are 6 feet tall or higher.

Media endorsements and legendary status help, even back in the 50s and 60s.
Ruth – Legend at the plate, especially with the supposedly called shot at Wrigley
Mays – over the shoulder catch
DiMaggio – Coffee Ads and married Marilyn Monroe
Aaron – Home Run King
Williams – .406 batting average and two time war hero

It is a lot easier to make a 6 foot man a hero vs. 5’ 7". Ask Tom Cruise, also 5’ 7", but you’d never now it in his films.

"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver

by RiskyBusiness on Mar 18, 2010 12:16 PM CDT reply actions  

#2 Behind Garagiola

Yogi was not even considered the Goods in St Louis, Garagiola was. He went to NY and Became a Hero. A true Underdog Story.

by NYCUB FAN on Mar 18, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec this

I didn’t understand how good Yogi was until long after I knew who Yogi was.

He is the Columbo of baseball greats. Tenacious, unassuming, goofy looking, and…it takes awhile to realize…really, really good at what he does (did).

"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is." -- Yogi Berra

by vonde6 on Mar 18, 2010 1:35 PM CDT reply actions  

I love Yogi

And he is soooo tiny! it is hard to imagine he was such a dominant ballpalyer, seeing him now.

by daily2b on Mar 18, 2010 6:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Yogi is one of my four favorite Yankees.

Thurmon Munson, Lou, Yogi, Reggie Jackson. And honorary mention to Scooter, and the Money Store!

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 18, 2010 11:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Scooter and the Money Store--had to look it up!

never knew this was Phil Rizzutos’

Of course, he’s most fondly remembered for his signature call of “Holy Cow!”, which he shared with Harry Caray (though they each said it differently).

Nady's beard looks fine to me!

by cooliogirl47 on Mar 19, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rizzuto did do that.

He pretty much stole it from Harry, who had been doing it for well over a decade before Rizzuto got into broadcasting.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Mar 20, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

My first glove when I was a kid was my Dad's hand-me-down Phil Rizzuto signature model.

I loved that glove. It was so soft and broken in by the time I got it, I could catch almost anything.

"There's more to life than profits...like, you know, slurpees and stuff." ~Randy Marsh

by Goodie1969 on Mar 20, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ted endorsed Moxie, Joe D. was Mr. Coffee, and Yogi was the public face of Yoo-Hoo.

"Elder White! Look at the talent on those Cubs!" Harry Caray, KMOX Radio, 4/22/62

"And you have to wonder – What's the matter with Broglio?" Harry, KMOX, 5/24/64

by ernaga on Mar 19, 2010 10:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Unbelievable Yogi stat few talk about

1950 Yogi’s stats – AB 597, AVE. .322, HR 28, RBI 124, R 116, K 12. He struck out only 12 times in a season where he had almost 600 ABs ; players today would be looking for more money if they struck out only 12 times in a month. Furthermore for his career he only wiffed 414 times in 2120 games with 7555 ABs. It also worth noting that he had a reputation as a notorious bad ball hitter. This is one guy that deserves much more credit for being the winner that he was.Also remember Yankee Stadium dimensions 467 to left center ; how many were chased down and caught that would’ve been out of any and every park by todays standard? Oh yeah, and Joe DiMaggio had only 10 more Ks than HRs for his CAREER .

by D4 on Mar 26, 2010 11:00 AM CDT reply actions  

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