Misleading Mass Media Headlines, Part 12,757, and Cubs vs. Reds at Goodyear Preview, Sunday 3/21, 3:05 CT
by Al Yellon on Mar 21, 2010 1:00 PM CDT
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PrintIf you want to have a real idea of why mass media is dying, just check out the headline on this Chicago Sun-Times article, which reads:White Sox ace Jake Peavy: 'I don't like the Cubs'
Stirs you up, right? Gets you to want to read the paper or click on the link? Sure, but reading the article gives you an entirely different slant. It's nothing personal between Peavy and the Cubs; the article is about Peavy's competitive nature:
"I hate every team we play, that's all there is to it," Peavy said. "From 2 o'clock until 10 or 11 o'clock at night, I don't want to be friends with the other side. You're not going to see me have relationships with anybody. Off the field, that's fine. I'm a firm believer in taking care of that off the field or in the tunnel.
"No, I don't like the Cubs. I don't like the Minnesota Twins. Great guys, but I don't like anybody we're going to play. I'm a member of the White Sox, and I want to go to battle with the 25 guys we have in here. I don't care about being friends with anybody else. ... Inside the lines, it's a dog-eat-dog world. I want to win all six games against the Cubs [this season], and it's as easy as that."
No news there. Every professional athlete has this attitude -- or should, anyway. There's no story here; Joe Cowley and the Sun-Times editors are just pandering to their audience. (And also for the headline writer: I think Mark Buehrle might want to have a word with you regarding the use of the word "ace".)
Lou Piniella says Ted Lilly will be back somewhere between April 23-26, which means he'd miss three starts. The club has suggested he'll make one start before the end of spring training -- the most likely date for that (in my opinion) would be the split-squad day on March 31.
Carlos Silva gets another chance to show everyone that he can, in fact, pitch effectively in the major leagues. He'll face the Reds' Justin Lehr. As I noted yesterday, the Cubs owe him one.
Lineup via tweet from Carrie:
2B Fontenot, SS Barney, RF Colvin, LF Millar, 3B Tracy, 1B Hoffpauir, C Chirinos, CF Fuld, P Silva
Today's game is on both teams' radio stations -- WGN and WLW. Unless you want to hear the Brennamans diss the Cubs and Cubs fans again, I'd stick to WGN. Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.
As usual, the first pitch thread will post at 3 pm CDT, and the overflow thread at 4:15 pm CDT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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What's going on with Aramis?
The Cubs may have to keep Tracy just to have a decent back up for Ramirez.
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
Aramis was the DH in a minor league game yesterday.
He’s expected back in the line-up later in the week after all of the long bus rides. Per the Sun-Times…hopefully that’s more accurate than this headline was.
Something stinks here...
This long with a sore triceps and no MRI?
Its funny, you spend most of your life gripping a baseball. And in the end, its almost always the other way around.
I'm guessing there isn't any concern of structural damage to the muscle.
Hopefully the trainers know what they’re doing (I’m sure they do). Sounds like they’re just being careful with the strain.
How I read it
I see this as saying, if, Ramirez goes down with a prolonged injury like last season, the Cubs may be better off keeping Tracy on the roster as ha just in case back-up. I thought Baker was the guy this year, but maybe the Cubs have a different idea.
adios, el comandante
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/2114341,CST-SPT-csep21.article
"The roar from the crowd really fired me up," Burish said. "In warmups there were a lot of signs. One said 'Burish, my grandma is pregnant.' I don't know what that means. I skated by it and said, 'it's not mine.' "
We'll see el comandante again.
no need to cry son.
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
castro is the terminator?
"The roar from the crowd really fired me up," Burish said. "In warmups there were a lot of signs. One said 'Burish, my grandma is pregnant.' I don't know what that means. I skated by it and said, 'it's not mine.' "
by jesus christos on Mar 21, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Al,
That MLB Gameday link isn’t to today’s game. Rather, it takes you to an “about Gameday” page.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 21, 2010 1:15 PM CDT reply actions
Here’s the link you want for MLB Gameday.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 21, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Caption:
Ryan Theriot and Derrek Lee reenact the Juan Marichal-Johnny Roseboro incident.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 21, 2010 1:29 PM CDT reply actions
Theriot wasn't actually nailing DLee with the bat.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 21, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Good one VCF
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
There were two new
all time Cactus League attendance records set yesterday. In the afternoon, the game between the D’Backs and the Mariners in Peoria drew 13, 444 and then last night at Camelback Ranch, the game between the Padres and the Dodgers drew 13, 506.
Also, the Giants had what seems like the umpteenth sell-out this March in Scottsdale yesterday.
And?
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
by HoSs. on Mar 21, 2010 2:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
For the benefit
of Al and others who have been posting ridiculous statements all Spring like, “The Cubs are the only reliable draw in the Cactus League” and “The Cubs are the engine the drives the Cactus League”. Those statements are clearly not true, and here is the evidence.
Also, for those that have been saying the Cactus League will shrivel and die without the Cubs…uh, no, it won’t.
Ding ding ding!
You win!
"...but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs. So it is ME who feels sorry for you." - Steve Goodman, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
by HoSs. on Mar 23, 2010 8:18 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
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Good call about the Reds’ announcers and their disdain for all things Cub. Clearly Marty is the worst offender, but Thom is getting there as his hair greys. I can’t remember if he left the Cubs on good terms or not, does anyone know?
Marty just seems like an angry old man, complaining about the fact that Cubs fans consistently fill up Mediocre American Ball Park, and know how to support their team. Sorry Marty, I’m sure the loud noises at the ball park are confusing for you, but it’s only for about nine games each season. Then you can go back to worrying about the wolves that are coming after you, and not liking the looks of those teenagers.
I don't know about "good terms" or not
but I do know Thom left the Cubs when he had a chance to be the #1 announcer in Phoenix when the D’Backs began play in 1998, and there are Cubs fans who took that personally, as though he was rejecting Chicago in favor of Phoenix. That was clearly not the case, as the job here was an obvious step up as he was the #1 guy in Phoenix and was not in Chicago. The gig here led to a prestigious national gig with Fox where Thom has done everything from a BCS Championship game to college basketball and MLB baseball playoff games.
He took the job in Cincy for the chance to work with his father, even though professionally, it was a step down from Phoenix, as obviously Marty is the #1 guy in Cincy.
Al has posted here more than once that Thom is an egotistical and arrogant guy… I have a friend who knows Thom and used to work with him and I have met Thom and his wife Polly (who was born and raised in Phoenix) and they could not have been nicer. My friend considers Thom Brennaman the most professional announcer he has worked with and one of his better friends.
Thom and Polly do a tremendous amount of charity work both here in Phoenix and in Cincinnati, especially for their favorite cause, animal shelters and fighting animal cruelty. I have never heard of Thom turning down an invitation to help with a local charity when he was here, if he could fit it into his schedule. He is very highly regarded in Phoenix.
And I happen to think he is a terrific play by play guy, although that is always a matter of personal opinion.
I only met Marty once briefly, so I do not know him at all. He does seem to have a bit of an issue with Cubs fans and the Cubs as an organization. Have no idea where that stems from, but I even asked Thom one time how he (Thom) liked his time announcing for the Cubs and he had nothing but nice things to say about the people he worked with and the Cubs organization.
You really have issues
Brennaman got his duties with Fox before he left the Cubs and that is what eventually caused him to leave. The Cubs did not want to share him with Fox for football games and baseball games. Supposedly he was offered Harry Caray’s job when the time came if he wouldn’t do the Fox gig.
by LT on Mar 21, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Your personal experience with Thom is different from mine.
I met him on a couple of occasions and found him insufferable.
LT below is correct about the Fox thing. I wasn’t one who “took it personally”. Basically, the Cubs didn’t want to let him go do the Fox gigs, so they let him go. It was amicable, from what I recall.
They did let Chip Caray do Fox games — however, Chip just did baseball, and Thom was going to do the NFL also, which would have meant him being gone for most of the September weekends.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
theres always am 720 radio
all else fails theres always Ron Santo and Pat Hughes. Saw them(pat was kind of sitting by ron watching) signing autographs befor the game at hohokam. Who cares about two subpar tv announcers when we have two guys who genuanlly love our team
by southsidecubbiefan on Mar 26, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
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