Say what you want but Silva...........
by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 27, 2010 6:32 PM CDT
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PrintHas looked much better than expected this spring. According to Len and Bob Silva has been working hard, has been taking additional practice with the bat (meaning he expects to start), and his confidence is up compared to the past. Throw in that Maddux has been working with him and I see a possible upside to Silva in a Cubs uniform this season.
On another note about Silva, he is a momma's boy (or so we were made to believe) and having his mom in the states I am sure can only help him (I am speaking as a momma's boy as well).
Today he tossed another good game, and I love seeing him get the batters to roll grounder after grounder, which as Fergie Jenkins will happily agree is a great way to win at Wrigley Field. If he can be decent (10-12 games and have a sub 4.50 ERA) we will all thank Seattle and Hendry for making the trade.
I do not expect Silva to win the Cy Young, I do not see him winning 20 games, and I dont see him hitting more home runs than Zambrano, but if he can win 10-12 games and have a sub 4.50 ERA works for me as a fifth starter.
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He really hasn't been bad. I see upside to him.
And if he does end up failing, Marshall takes his spot.
Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.
Cubs need some pleasant surprises
If some of the players we percieve " just taking up room on the roster " can come around , we may see the Cubs postseason . I for one hope Silva can just be ok to good . I too noticed Silva is getting a lot of ground ball outs ..Maybe he can win comeback player of the year award .. Or should I keep dreaming ?
I repeat what I've said many times.
Silva will give the Cubs what Jason Marquis did. I’m fine with that.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
This is just a hunch
but I don’t this Silva can be the pinch-runner that Jason Marquis was. Just a hunch though.
"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver
by RiskyBusiness on Mar 27, 2010 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with your hunch.
Yet another reason to have kept Andres Blanco.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I don't see any way he stays with Colvin and Nady on the roster
with 12 pitchers and Tracy/Millar as his competition for the final spot.
2 outs, Soto on first, tie game
Lou signals to Iowa for his pinch runner, Sam Fuld. After a short intermission (3 hours), Fuld arrives and play resumes.
Colvin's got pretty decent speed.
I’m not sure any team can afford to use a 25-man roster spot just for a pinch runner.
Not in the regular season. If the planets align, Fuld
can make a playoff roster. Just sayin’.
may addition by subtraction be real
lol
"What a lot of people don’t see is the tremendous amount of progress that has been made in the organization over the last few years. We have a lot of very talented guys coming up through the system. Jim has built an incredible scouting organization." - Tom Ricketts
LOL ... I don't think so, either.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 30, 2010 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Completely agree.
Al didn’t see you in Mesa. I think the evil cheese smokie monsters have comspired to keep us from meeting.
I’ll probably run into you somewhere. Actually your long lost twin was in Costco a couple of days ago. He looked enough like you I turned around and took a closer look but remembered you were still in Mesa.
Formerly known as cubstoseriesby100. Thanks Al for letting me change my outdated screenname.
by puckishcubsfan on Mar 27, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
It has a couple of things behind it.
I’m kind of puckish persoanlity wise meaning mischevious.
Also I plan on visiting Second City Hockey more as the playoffs begin.
Also my fanfiction.net name is puckishprosecutor after the character of Caroline Julian on Bones.
Formerly known as cubstoseriesby100. Thanks Al for letting me change my outdated screenname.
by puckishcubsfan on Mar 28, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
That would be very nice.
It would be very impressive if he posted those numbers. Would make the Milton Bradley trade worth every penny, not that it isn’t worth it already. He’s had a very solid spring.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark
I hope he performs well
But these starts don’t mean a thing since they aren’t regular season. He still has a lot to prove this April in my opinion.
Wow..so many "Glass half empty" comments!
Carlos Silva = Jim Edmonds part 2
Rob’s just got a feeling!!!
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie" -- Tony Montana
i expected a lot more to be honest
and many to tell me i am smoking crack, tripping on acid, drunk on kool aid, and so on by now.
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
Not doin any of that, BUT....
..it’s 85 degrees and I’ve drank A LOT of beer at the pool — Talkef baseball all day with a coiple from Philly — They said they were Philllies fans but neither of then could tell me who played 1st base — Frustrating!
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie" -- Tony Montana
If you posted this same poll the day the trade was made
the results would be the exact opposite.
kinda funny
FWIW
I know ST stats mean little towards the reg season, but in Silvas case I believe the confidence he is pitching with is what matters most. he looks like he is in charge and believes in his every pitch. that comes with showing success in ST for him.
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
Carlos Silva...
… has thrown 16.1 innings this spring with a 4.96 ERA.
The following starting pitchers have thrown as many or more innings with a higher ERA this spring:
Adam Wainwright, Cole Hamels, Yovani Gallardo, Rich Harden, Jonathan Sanchez, Brad Penny and Wandy Rodriguez.
Just to name a few. Silva’s in the middle of the pack. That’s all we ask from him.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Silva is a good reclamation effort, expensive but that money was already badly spent
If he can give the Cubs 10-12 fair starts and pitch 55-65 IP from that spot through May where the Cubs go 7-5 in those games it is a big plus. When Lilly comes back it will be self-evident who goes to the pen, I would like to see Gorzellany stay in the rotation providing the rotation balance with 2 lefties, but whomever gets the outs is who pitches….
Silva might be a fair long-reliever or be there to replace a 15-day stint from the rotation through August or he might be an innings eater for someone else after the All Star Break…or he might be a Marquis surprise.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
which only proves that spring stats mean absolutely nothing
Unless you’re honestly trying to claim Silva is in the same league as any of those guys
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Mar 30, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Silva's been impresive since his first start.
Nice to see him working hard and earning himself a job as a starter.
by braziliancubsfan on Mar 27, 2010 8:45 PM CDT reply actions
I have one thing to say
You use a lot of punctuation in your FanPost titles.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
yes
yes i did, shall i change it?
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
Give me the blue kool aid
yes! yes!
> slurp <
better than Brock for Broglio any day!
> slurp <
He be steady so fa. Les ze wha hoppen!
> slurp <
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
Watching him pitch today...
I went down to watch him warm up and his pitches had a lot of movement. Rothschild seemed happy with the warm up, as he was nodding a lot in approval. As for the game, yeah he gave up some long outs – but they were outs. He also had three or so balls right back to the mound, weak grounders that were easy outs.
Silva pitches to contact – which means that sometimes guys are going to hit him well. But he also mixed in a couple of clutch K’s today. I liked what I saw today and have no problem with him at the back end of the rotation until he shows that he doesn’t deserve to be there.
I think I speak for everyone here when I say, "Wait, what the hell are you talking about?"
IF
The last time we dumped a problem and got what we thought was bumpkis turned out great (Hundley for Karros and Grudzlianek) so if this is even half that good that would be great.
Sometimes a player just needs a fresh start. Hopefully this will be it. He was very good a few years ago so it’s not like it’s someone who’s always sucked.
Formerly known as cubstoseriesby100. Thanks Al for letting me change my outdated screenname.
Gotta agree
Silva was good .. Trying to be optomistic here , maybe with a fresh start Silva will be the pitcher he once was or near it .. Sure hope he turns into an innings eater
Cliff Lee out 9 weeks?
The Mariners will rue the day they let Silva get away!
"I'd rather hit home runs you don't have to run as hard." -- Dave Kingman
by BucknerKongCardenal on Mar 27, 2010 10:56 PM CDT reply actions
Glad I did not draft him on my fantasy team
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 28, 2010 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Suspension?
For what?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 28, 2010 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Wow.
Don’t you think that MLB is, just maybe, overreacting a little bit?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 28, 2010 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Um...
… no. This kind of stuff shouldn’t happen, and in a spring training game it’s unconscionable.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Did anything happen to Barry Zito?
When he drilled Prince Fielder?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 28, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions
And you call yourself a Brewers fan?
Seriously?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 28, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
So you don't remember that obscene celebration against SF in September?
The celebration after the walkoff home run Prince Fielder hit?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 28, 2010 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
5 games translates to 1 start
5 games is the minimum number for a suspension of a starting pitcher to have any sort of effect.
Wait, couldn't he just serve the suspension during the injury time?
Or is he going to take lessons from the second HWSNBN about injuries and suspension time?
by Steven Schweickert on Mar 28, 2010 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Good point.
Kind of too late to do that now, though, if he’s going to start the year on the DL.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
no, he would have to be activated from the DL before the suspension clock starts
either way, the team would be short
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Mar 30, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Attempt to correct foiled by prior admission of missing an important fact.
Fair enough. Must’ve missed the DL difference.
Thanks for the correction though.
by Steven Schweickert on Mar 30, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I was waiting to see if anyone else would be the contrarian in this thread
But no one else has. I’m amazed at the votes – 2-1 at this point in his favor.
I hope he does do well. But he wasn’t that good when he was good, and he’s been hit hard. The thing about consistently giving up loud outs is, eventually they aren’t outs. If Silva is still in the rotation in May, the Cubs are in trouble.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 28, 2010 8:23 AM CDT reply actions
If Silva is still in the rotation in May, the Cubs are in trouble.
We do not know that yet.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
And we know this??
Silva will give the Cubs what Jason Marquis did.
Come on, Al. What I said is no less valid than what you said, and Silva’s career suggests I’m more likely to be correct. I hope I’m not, but that’s the way I see it.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 28, 2010 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Silva has had major league success.
I made a comparison earlier this spring to Jason Marquis’ 2006 season and Silva’s 2008 (his last healthy season). Pretty similar — in fact, apart from the W-L record, Silva’s was probably better.
I stand by my statement.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I'm not looking to debate the statements, because they are both opinions
But mine is no less speculation than yours.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 28, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
*no MORE speculation
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 28, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Then why challenge Al's statement in the first place
if you are not looking to debate?
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Mar 28, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I responded to his comment where he challenged mine.
That should have been pretty clear.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 28, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Al is doing exactly what you are doing
making an assumption. His career has shown he can be successful pitching in the bigs, and it has also shown he can be downright awful at times. This spring he has been pretty good, so maybe it is good Carlos this year and he provides the Cubs with Marquis-like numbers. Marquis had a schizophrenic career before joining the Cubs, spectacularly bad just before becoming a Cub, just like Silva. Here’s hoping Silva can put up Marquis like numbers this year.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Mar 28, 2010 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I hope that he can do that or better
I don’t think that he can. I don’t think saying so is seditious.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 28, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you saying you want BLou to comment in here?
Seriously?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 28, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Just saying that the comments have all been more than a bit optimistic.
It surprises me.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 28, 2010 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Silva has pitched well this spring
so there is a reason for guarded optimism, but you go ahead and be johnny rain cloud if it makes you feel better.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Mar 28, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Cripes, your combative
I disagree with the statement. I didn’t have you pegged for one of those who had a hissy at anything less than “The Cubs are great! They’re unstoppable!” comment.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 28, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
pot meet kettle
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Mar 28, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
You keep thinking that
But I’d say 90% of what you post comes across as if someone doesn’t agree with you, then he or she is an idiot.
I can disagree with someone without challenging their intellect…you seem to be unable to. Maybe that’s not your intent, but that’s the result more often than not.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 28, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd just like to say
that I lol’ed at “Johnny Rain Cloud”. Is that SB’s indian name? :D
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 29, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Strangely enough...
…Johnny Rain Cloud is married to Suzie Sunshine. The tension is what makes the relationship work.
And their twins
Dark Cloud and Silver Lining
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Mar 29, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Not really.
BLou’s comments are bombastic and repetitive. I stated my opinion.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 28, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Me too
If he’s in the rotation in May, the Cubs are in trouble sounds like BLou. Not everything he says is bombastic and repetitive.
A good majority of it is, however.
Some men learn through what they read. Some men learn through what they're told. Some men have to piss on the railroad tracks. And some men keep on pissin'.
Alright, then, I'll expound on it - which he wouldn't do
My expectation is that if he’s still in the rotatoin, it’s because either Lilly isn’t back yet, one of the other starters aren’t healthy or Gorzelanny has failed miserably.
Further, I expect that he’s not going to be effective. As I stated above, he’s given up hard-hit balls consistently, and sooner or later, those start to find gaps or seats.
The bullpen could end up being an asset, but I’m not convinced of that at this point – and so I think that the rotation needs to shoulder a heavy load. If the top starters of Lilly, Dempster, Zambrano and Wells aren’t able to do so, it’ll put a lot more stress on an unproven bullpen and could cause it to be less effective than it otherwise would be. If that comes to fruition, I’d expect the team to struggle.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 28, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
And you call me competitive
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Mar 28, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
No, I call you combative
Entirely different words.
Tell me, what exactly about the comment that you’ve responded to is EITHER competitive or combative? You just like to argue with me. Did I run over your dog? Cut you off in traffic? Accidentally bump into you in the hall? I don’t know what your issue is, really – and I think I’m going to stop remotely caring.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 28, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
You are no less combative than you accuse me of being
I just find it funny how you find a fault in others that you are just as guilty of. As for liking to argue with you, not really, as your posts do not matter any more (or less) to me than the posts of any one else, but I do reserve the right to challenge what you say when I feel like it.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Mar 28, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I have no issue with you or anyone else challenging what I say
You seem to have an issue with me responding.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 28, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll ask again, what was combative in the more lengthly comment about Silva?
If you were Silva, I could see you taking exception to it, but nowhere do I personally attack him, so even he shouldn’t have an issue with it.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 28, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Is there a point here, or are you also just looking to pick a fight?
Because I’m not taking the bait. I didn’t bring BLou into this in the first place. I stated an opinion. You didn’t like the way that it was stated, so I explained it. Beyond that, whatever, Pete. You’ve also had a habit of following me around to try to start things, although not as often as you do with Vermont Cubs Fan. If that floats your boat, have at it.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 28, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
And you claim you are not combative
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Mar 28, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly, why don't you try reading the post instead of responding to who is writing?
I don’t need to ask you permission to respond to someone else.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 28, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
When you accuse another poster of picking a fight
that is being combative. Posters in glass houses …
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Mar 28, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
you clearly are trying to pick a fight.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Mar 30, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
same could be said of you
in this post and others in this thread alone. Posters in glass houses …
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Mar 30, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I suppose you COULD say that
but it wouldn’t be nearly as accurate as pertaining to you, and this particular conversation.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Mar 30, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
of course, the other guy is always worse
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Mar 30, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I haven't done anything to pick a fight
I didn’t dislike your opinion either. I didn’t ask you to explain it. I’ve never followed you around. I’ve never followed that guy either.
You seem to float your boat by being the headmistress. .
You never follow me around?
Talk about selective amnesia. However, with you it is not very much of a surprise.
If you don’t follow me around, why is it that you whine and complain about practically everything I say? I’m waiting. That does seem like following me around.
Unless, of course, you don’t understand the meaning of the words “followed him around”. For definition, I will say that what ol Pete is doing to me is what qualifies as “following someone around.”
I hope this clears things up.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 28, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 29, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Should read "crickets"
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 29, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Sigh.
Ol Pete’s man-crush on me continues.
I thought you had given up on me already.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 28, 2010 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
does he know you prefer your men without a penis?
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
If you don't leave me alone,
I’m going to start flagging every single one of your posts. No joke.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 28, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
just ask him
how about that tax question from SB that he never answered and side steps
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
Y'know Vermont, you seem to threaten a lot of people with 'Flagging"
which always reminds me of telling someone you’re going to tell you’re mom they’ve been mean to you.
Why not just ignore him if he bothers you that much?
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Mar 31, 2010 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions
The thing with him,
Is he seems to go out of his way to bash me here. It’s gotten really old. Even if I try ignoring him, he still does it.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 31, 2010 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions
And also,
I received a very real-sounding threat online the other day. Scared the heck out of me. It was Saturday night.
Two nights ago, I dreamed I was a tepee. And last night, I dreamed I was a wigwam. I think I’m two tents!
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 31, 2010 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Speaking of BLou...
…he promised to voluntarily ban himself from BCB if Silva makes it to the end of the season with an ERA under 5.50.
So there is much, much more at stake here than something as silly, frivolous and inconsequential as the Cubs starting rotation.
by daver on Mar 29, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't see that.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 29, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh, believe me.
I saw that. And I’ll remember it.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
As if BLou would ever follow through on that
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Mar 29, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I doubt he would.
But it would be like the posts he made glorifying [name redacted] when the Cubs signed him at the beginning of 2009.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 29, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
or when BLou said the last time the Cubs won a WS
was 1945
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
He said that at one point?
Seriously?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 29, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Link?
This I gotta see.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 30, 2010 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions
here you go
Earth to Al A. Royals operate with a payroll 1/3 the size of the Cubs
B. Cubs won a World Series in 1945…40 years prior to 1985
When you’re the Royals, then you need to turn to options like Scott Podsednik.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
by BLou on Jan 8, 2010 9:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
That's just silly.
Talk about making up your own facts. Wish I had been there.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 30, 2010 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Gonna agree with you
Silva has gotten better results than I expected, but he does seem to give up a lot of hard hit outs. Granted we’ve only seen a few of his appearances, but I feel like teams have made some really good contact. I’m glad that he’s going to go into the rotation to start the season, but the team should not hesitate to pull the plug as there are other good rotation options.
lets just hope
he pitches like this in the regular season. no more facing minor leaguers and prospects. the real deal in 2 weeks.
Odds...
He could win 10-12…but it’s not likely.
Fingers crossed that he does well, but we shouldn’t be counting on anything but sub-par performance if history is any guide.
Hoping? Yes. Counting on? No.
by CubsWin!Oregon on Mar 28, 2010 11:49 AM CDT reply actions
I hasten to note...
that no matter what I’ll be cheering him on though. The guy deserves as much support as we can give him. A second lease on life (support-wise) might even do wonders for his confidence.
by CubsWin!Oregon on Mar 28, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I would take
10-8, just keep the Cubs in games and eat some innings. Who knows maybe he has a decent year.
I'd take
9-9. Heck, I might even take 8-10, if they’re not critical losses.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Mar 29, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
For the money... I'd rather have Jason Marquis back...
Pisses me off that we gave him away last year for a pile of dogpoop… just to move his contract to sign Bradley. Now look.where we’ve gone from there.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
yep..
rivals giving 3 prospects away for 1 year of a center fielder with no arm.
IMHO it takes a heck of a lot of optimism to think Silva can equal Marquis.
Not saying impossible..I just think its unlikely.
The journey is the reward!
I don't get the love for Marquis. (Nothing against him, either.)
I don’t think he’s a bad pitcher, I just don’t think he’s that good either.
Here’s Marquis’ line for 2 seasons with the Cubs:
23-18, 4.57 ERA, 1.42 WHIP
Which is perfectly fine for a 5th starter. Honestly, I don’t think hoping Silva produces at a similar level is all that ridiculous. And while I will agree that Silva’s BAA has been pretty terrible, being in the NL with a pitcher getting every 9th AB should help bring that number down a lot.
"It's Spring Training. You know how many home runs Barry Bonds hit off me? One - in Spring Training." - Big Z
I agree
Silva does not have to be all that good to match Marquis’s performance. Like Marquis he had some decent years, then a stretch of bad ones, and now he gets to the Cubs.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Mar 29, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I answered no for the simple reason that he might win 10-12 games
but there’s I don’t believe there’s even the slimmest of chances he posts a sub 4.50 ERA.
If you had said sub 5.50, then I could have voted yes.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
I don't think he'll hit those numbers, but he may not be far off.
Hey, he’s paid for, so he might as well do something useful.
may addition by subtraction be real
I remember Jenkins winning at Wrigley Field
by not walking anyone. He sure gave up a ton of homers for a ground ball pitcher. I’m on the road and can’t check right now but I’d be interested to know if my memory is correct or the bushels of homers he gave up challenging hitters with the bases empty were the exception and he was actually a ground ball pitcher.
I believe your memory is correct.
There are only two pitchers in ML history who had 3000+ strikeouts and under 1000 walks.
Fergie Jenkins. And Greg Maddux.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
They're not the only ones
Curt Schilling and Pedro Martinez have 3000+ strikeouts with less than 1000 walks.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Pedro could still surpass 1000, right?
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
Assuming he hangs around a few more years
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
im too lazy right now
how far from 1000 is he? sorry for being lazy, the Hawks jsut took the gas out of me
Unofficial Self Appointed President of the Castro Blocker Fan Club
He's walked 760
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
I'm proud to say...
…Silva was one of my picks to surprise this year, we’ll just have to see if it lasts very long.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
If our fifth starter
Has 10-12 wins, this will be a big year for the Cubs. I am not that optimistic. However, I am always happy to be pleasantly surprised.
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is." -- Yogi Berra
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